Thank you Olga. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Olga Lewis To: Gordon A. Watts Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: census Asked the Liberal candidate in my riding for his views on releasing the census records and he is all for them being released to the public as they should be. He also informed me that Senator Milne's ancestors came from the Ottawa Valley from a little place called Lake Dorie. Interesting, although I knew she had relatives in the area, I was unaware that her ancestors originated from the area as well. Rob Jamieson is the Liberal candidate here. Keep up the good work. The candidate for the Conservatives had also expressed some time ago before she was running again for office that she felt the records should be released also. Sheryl Gallant is the Conservative candidate here Olga Lewis

Hi Bonnie. I have just checked her correspondence log on the Post 1901 Census Project website. The answer given here is essentially the same non-answer given to you in her message of 25 March 2003. I show Ms. Brown on the Scoreboard as having given a non-committal response, i.e. sitting on the fence. In fact, reading the few responses she gave to others she truly deserves a Red X of opposition. The only reason she does not have that is that she has not actually said in so many words that she opposes access. Her earlier responses however, virtually echo the words of Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi. She has obviously been sucked in to believing what he says about the Census. Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:54 AM Subject: [CCC] Fw: Census HI ALL Bonnie Brown, in Oakville, is a pain as usual. Here is her standard reply for the past 3 years. Bonnie Weber ----- Original Message ----- From: <bonniebrown@teammartin.ca> To: <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Census > > Thank you for participating in the democratic process by contacting the > Bonnie Brown campaign! > > Bonnie, or a member of her team, will make every effort to respond > directly to you as soon as possible. > > > Sincerely, > > The Bonnie Brown Campaign 2004 > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

HI ALL Bonnie Brown, in Oakville, is a pain as usual. Here is her standard reply for the past 3 years. Bonnie Weber ----- Original Message ----- From: <bonniebrown@teammartin.ca> To: <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Census > > Thank you for participating in the democratic process by contacting the > Bonnie Brown campaign! > > Bonnie, or a member of her team, will make every effort to respond > directly to you as soon as possible. > > > Sincerely, > > The Bonnie Brown Campaign 2004 > >

Hi, I have no intentions of telling anyone how to vote either, but I will mention here that neither of the four parties that are running candidates in every riding in Canada has any mention of the historical census records and their protection in their Party's Platform. You will have to rely on your local candidate being honest enough to speak the truth to you or that any correspondence with the party they represent is being truthful. The Liberal http://www.liberal.ca/platform_e_1.aspx The Conservative http://64.26.173.32/platform/english/index.htm The NDP http://ndp.ca/platform The Green http://www.greenparty.ca/index.php?module=article&view=291 I don't believe anyone on this list is unaware of how the Government under the Rt. Hon. Jean Cretien or its present leader the Rt. Hon. Paul Martin, has treated the issue of the historical census records being turned over to the care and control of the National Archives. What do I think of all this, as I wait for answers that have not been forthcoming? Well judge for yourself. This is the letter that I wrote to my present MP for CapeBreton/Canso. ***Looking for your support on the immediate release of the 1911 Census Dear Mr. Rodger Cuzner, We have been in touch before in February 2003, when I submitted a copy of my submission to the Senate Standing Committee concerning Bill S-13. At that time your reply to me was: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:33:37 -0500 From: "Cuzner, Rodger - M.P." <Cuzner.R@parl.gc.ca> To: "'joseph000@ns.sympatico.ca'" <joseph000@ns.sympatico.ca> Ms. MacDonald: I have received your e-mail and wanted to thank you for your kind words of support. I agree with your thoughts that no part of our Heritage should be "fragmented or destroyed". Again, thanks and have a nice day. Rodger Cuzner, M.P. You have agreed with my thoughts that no part of our Heritage should be 'fragmented or destroyed' which I believe is commendable for any member of parliament to express. What this does not tell me is whether or not you are in favour of 'public access to these records' after 92 year. closure. Mr. Cuzner, I don't mind telling you that I am completely fed up with the way that the government has been stalling, erecting road blocks and anything else that they can think of to avoid this issue. It boggles my mind that so many liberal members of parliament are in favour of the release of the 'Post 1906 census.' Yet still the 1911 records are kept under lock and key by the Chief Statistician Dr. Fellegi. Why aren't these census records where they belong with the National Archives? They should have been in the National Archives care and control since June 2003. I am coming to the conclusion that the present government has a hidden agenda in regards to the people of Canada and their rights to know their heritage and have access to it. My questions to you if re-elected as MP for CapeBreton Canso are: "Do you fully support that all Census Records of Canada (both past and future censuses), be release to the National Archives at the proper time and given public access after 92 years closure from the date of the taking of said census?" "Will you do all in your power to see that Dr. Fellegi (Chief Statistician) is made to obey the laws of Canada and turn the 1911 census over to the care and control of the National Archives and made available for public access? Sincerely Juanita MacDonald R.R. 1 Whycocomagh P.S. I was in your Dominion office on June 3rd, concerning this matter. I left my name and e-mail address and was informed that I would hear from you by the next day. I also talked to your representative Donnie Morrison for this area on the day you were suppose to be in this part of the riding. He informed me that your visit had been cancelled, but he would inform you of our conversation. *** I haven't as of this moment got a reply and quite frankly I don't expect one. I will be honest I haven't received replies yet from either of the other party candidates, though I am hoping that I receive one by Sunday evening from the Conservative candidate. I spoke to one of his assistants and she was extremely interested in this matter and we spoke at length on the phone about the Canada Census Campaign and the Historical census records. The Conservative, NDP and Green party candidates in the CapeBreton/Canso riding are new to the political scene, so I would have to rely on correspondence from Jack Layton NDP, and Steven Harper, Conservative. Mr. Harper was representing the Canadian Alliance at the time, but I am assuming that his position is still the same as both the Alliance and the Progressive Conservatives held the same position at that time; "supports the preservation of census records and the subsequent transfer of these records to the National Archives for public release. We believe that keeping the records confidential for the historical 92-year period is an adequate length of time..." Jack Layton of the NDP was also in agreement. At that time I summitted copies to various members of parliament of my submission to the senate committee. The two I didn't hear from were the former P.M. Rt. Hon. Jean Crétien and present Rt. Hon. Paul Martin. The late Hon. Joseph Howe once said, "A wise nation preserves its records, and fosters national pride and love of country by perpetual reference to the sacrifices and glories of the past." The Historical census records carry the names of all those unknown heros that made this country great, our ancestors. So think of them when you cast your ballot on Monday, June 28th. Vote for the candidate you believe will do his or her utmost to have the historical census records turned over to the National Archives where they belong, and opened to public access. Regards Juanita MacDonald "Gordon A. Watts" wrote: > > Liberal Party of Canada -- 168 total MPs > > Gold Tick of Support----------85 > Non-committal Fence----------53 > No response-------------------28 > Red X of Opposition-----------02 > > Conservative Party of Canada -- 73 total MPs > > Gold Tick of Support----------71 > Non-committal Fence----------00 > No response-------------------02 > Red X of Opposition-----------00 > > NDP Party of Canada -- 14 total MPs > > Gold Tick of Support----------14 > Non-committal Fence----------00 > No response-------------------00 > Red X of Opposition-----------00 > > Bloc Quebecois-- 33 total MPs > > Gold Tick of Support----------09 > Non-committal Fence----------03 > No response-------------------21 > Red X of Opposition-----------00 > > Independent -- 9 total MPs > > Gold Tick of Support----------08 > Non-committal Fence----------00 > No response-------------------01 > Red X of Opposition-----------00

Laurie and others:- When I asked two candidates at Sunnybrook Veteran's Wing last thursday, both John Godfrey and David Turnbull were asked the same two questions:- 1. Their views and opinions of 1911 census release 2. Helicopters for east and west coast to replace ancient Sea Kings. Both John (incumbent) and David (candidate) were very positive. Very possibly the URL for Automated Genealogy should be used, invite them to open the 1901 census and see how little information is on the one page. One could explain microfiche has two pages, but no amounts of money or worldly wealth is given. Watch out for the Toronto area ridings, including my Brampton ones, these seem to be the main ones to make or break the Ontario numbers. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Patterson" <lauriep@netrover.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 12:34 AM Subject: [CCC] Re: Candidates positions in Clarington--Scugog--Uxbridge riding > I am including the questions I asked of the candidates, followed by the > replies I have received from 3 of the 4 candidates. Only the Liberal > candidate has not replied. > > Please excuse my inclusion of the question regarding the gun registry, but > it is very important to me. > > Laurie Patterson > Uxbridge Township, Ontario > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurie Patterson [mailto:lauriep@netrover.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 6:40 PM > To: 'greenervin@hotmail.com'; 'langt@teammartin.ca'; 'bev@bevoda.ca'; > 'barogers@sympatico.ca' > > Subject: Questions for candidates > > Candidates: > > As none of you are incumbents you are probably not aware of the following > issue. > > Several private members bills have been presented in Parliament, but have > died on the order paper as elections have been called. For at least 6 years > a large number of genealogists in Canada and around the world have been > trying to obtain access to post-1901 census records of Canada. According to > present legislation, care and control of census records are to be given to > the National Archives 92 years after being collected. Currently, the Chief > Statistician, Ivan P. Fellegi refuses to pass control of the 1911 census (it > should have been released in June 2003) to the National Archivist as he, (we > believe erroneously), believes that a never-ending promise of > confidentiality prevents their release. You may research this issue at the > following web-site. > > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census > > Incidentally, as a comparison, the U.S. releases its census records after 72 > years, and the U.K. after 100 years. > > My questions to each of you are: > > 1. Are you in favour of releasing the census records of Canada 92 years > after being collected? > > 2. If elected, would you support our attempts to have the 92-year-old census > records released for research by genealogists, historians or family members > searching for their roots? > > One further question on a different subject. > > As you are probably aware, many citizens believe that long-gun registration > is the first step toward confiscation, and have been turned into criminals > because they refused to comply with this ineffectual legislation, designed > to appeal to urban dwellers as being "seen to be doing something" to combat > crime. However, the problem is that only law-abiding citizens would > register their rifles and shotguns, and criminals do not register their > handguns, sawed-off shotguns and the like. In view of this: > > 3. Are you in favour of abolishing the gun registry? > > 4. Would you support an attempt by either the party in power or an > opposition party to abolish the gun registry? > > My vote in this election will depend on your answers. I look forward to > your replies. > > Please understand that no reply or a reply that does not answer all four > questions will automatically result in no vote. > > Sincerely, > Laurie Patterson > lauriep@netrover.com

I am including the questions I asked of the candidates, followed by the replies I have received from 3 of the 4 candidates. Only the Liberal candidate has not replied. Please excuse my inclusion of the question regarding the gun registry, but it is very important to me. Laurie Patterson Uxbridge Township, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Patterson [mailto:lauriep@netrover.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 6:40 PM To: 'greenervin@hotmail.com'; 'langt@teammartin.ca'; 'bev@bevoda.ca'; 'barogers@sympatico.ca' Subject: Questions for candidates Candidates: As none of you are incumbents you are probably not aware of the following issue. Several private members bills have been presented in Parliament, but have died on the order paper as elections have been called. For at least 6 years a large number of genealogists in Canada and around the world have been trying to obtain access to post-1901 census records of Canada. According to present legislation, care and control of census records are to be given to the National Archives 92 years after being collected. Currently, the Chief Statistician, Ivan P. Fellegi refuses to pass control of the 1911 census (it should have been released in June 2003) to the National Archivist as he, (we believe erroneously), believes that a never-ending promise of confidentiality prevents their release. You may research this issue at the following web-site. http://globalgenealogy.com/Census Incidentally, as a comparison, the U.S. releases its census records after 72 years, and the U.K. after 100 years. My questions to each of you are: 1. Are you in favour of releasing the census records of Canada 92 years after being collected? 2. If elected, would you support our attempts to have the 92-year-old census records released for research by genealogists, historians or family members searching for their roots? One further question on a different subject. As you are probably aware, many citizens believe that long-gun registration is the first step toward confiscation, and have been turned into criminals because they refused to comply with this ineffectual legislation, designed to appeal to urban dwellers as being "seen to be doing something" to combat crime. However, the problem is that only law-abiding citizens would register their rifles and shotguns, and criminals do not register their handguns, sawed-off shotguns and the like. In view of this: 3. Are you in favour of abolishing the gun registry? 4. Would you support an attempt by either the party in power or an opposition party to abolish the gun registry? My vote in this election will depend on your answers. I look forward to your replies. Please understand that no reply or a reply that does not answer all four questions will automatically result in no vote. Sincerely, Laurie Patterson lauriep@netrover.com --------------- Reply from Bev Oda, Conservative candidate ------------------------------- Good afternoon Mr. Patterson Thank you for taking the time to re-send that email. The answer to your first question, which we would like to point out our candidate stated publicly at a debate held last week at the Courtice Ratepayers Association, is "I 'm not very familiar with this issue but I see no reason why this could not be done". Your second question is an easy one to answer as the Conservative Party's platform outlines its plan to repeal the wasteful long gun registry registration. If elected, a Conservative government will work with the provinces on cost-effective gun-control programs designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals while respecting the rights of law-abiding Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. These measures will include, amongst others: . Mandatory minimum penalties for the criminal use of firearms and their illegal possession . Strict monitoring of high-risk individuals . Putting more law enforcement officers on our streets. The gun registry has been extremely ineffective and a colossal waste of tax dollars. We in the Conservative Party of Canada believe that we should be registering sex offenders - NOT law abiding citizens. I hope we have been able to answer your questions clearly and also hope we can count on you for your support. The Bev Oda Team Clarington-Scugog-Uxbridge --------------- Reply from Virginia Ervin, Green Party candidate ------------------------------- Hello Laurie, First of all, I would like to explain to you the reasoning behind my delayed response. In order for me to run this campaign, it is necessary for me to work a full time job. I work Mon. - Fri. from 8am - 4:30pm and I have no access to my email when I am there. All of the money that I have earned has gone into my campaign, every penny. I have not asked a single person for a dime because I wanted to do this for everyone else. Also, I personally respond to every email that is sent to me. I do not have someone else putting words in my mouth, therefore it takes me a little longer to reply. I did not mean to make you feel as though you were being ignored. There are several hundred citizens living in this riding, to say the least. I am only one person so I can not speak to everyone at once. I wish I could but I do not have the $$ for that sort of thing. These issues are of much concern to me. I for one would like to be able to access the census information from that time period. It just might help me with the family tree my aunt has been working on for years. There is no reason why this information can not be made accessible to the public and I for one would like to know just what it is that they are hiding. Secondly, as for the gun registry, I personally feel that it was nothing more then a waste of our precious time and hard earned money. How has it benefited our society? How many lives has it saved? How many guns did it take away from the hands of criminals? If you want my opinion, I think the hunters and farmers are the ones who felt the pinch from this the most. Hunters are not criminals (unless they are poachers) so why treat them as though they are a threat? Farmers are not a threat to our society, they keep food in our bellies so we can survive. I understand that the police use this information so that they know which houses have guns and which ones supposedly do not. If a criminal owns a gun, do you think that he/she is going to put their little white flag into the air and blatantly tell the police where to find them? I highly doubt it! If the police want to know which houses have guns in them then they need to find a different way of approaching this. Too many Canadians are fed up with this poor excuse for a "Gun Registry" and I am not afraid to say what I think about it. I think that we should revise the situation and if there is no evidence that it has benefited our society in any way then I say we get rid of it! I hope that this was a sufficient enough answer for you and your comrades. Once again I would like to apologize for the delayed response but just remember that no matter how long it takes, the public deserves to know the answer! I will be looking forward to hearing from you again and I hope you have a wonderful weekend! If there is something that I can do for you in the future, please let me know. Thank you for your interest and support. Take care till next time and keep on smiling! Virginia Ervin Clarington-Scugog-Uxbridge Green Party of Ontario Canada --------------- Reply from Bruce Rogers, NDP candidate ------------------------------- Dear Laurie: I don't recall receiving an e-mail from you about the gun control or census issues. However, I've made it clear at all candidates meetings that I favour the release of the census information. It's about us. We have a right to know. I don't believe there is a significant privacy issue for the deceased or for their progeny. I favour the gun registry. It's clear we need to stem the tide of small arms across the border and onto our streets. But the registry gives police at least one source of information when they are called to domestic disputes and other situations. We don't stop registering cars or licensing drivers simply because a number of unlawful people drive when under license suspension. What I don't understand is how the Liberals managed to spend so many of our hard earned tax dollars on what should have been a simple system. But they managed to waste a lot of our dollars on a lot of boondoggles didn't they? Sincerely, Bruce Rogers Candidate Clarington Scugog Uxbridge.

Greetings Norma and All. The Conservative Party of Canada does has a Platform. It is viewable in PDF format at http://www.conservative.ca/platform/e/pdf Unfortunately it does not mention public access to Historic Census records. It is regretable that Mr Casey has not gotten back to you but I would hesitate to condemn the entire party because of one person. I will not try to tell anyone how to vote. The following information from the MP Scoreboard on the Post 1901 Census Project website shows the position of the current Members of Parliament. I leave it to the readers to determine for themselves which of the major parties having a chance of forming the next government is most likely to return the public access to Historic Census records that we seek. At least 20 of the current Liberal MPs are not running in the current election. I do not have any numbers for members of other parties that are not running Happy Hunting. Gordon ================================ Liberal Party of Canada -- 168 total MPs Gold Tick of Support----------85 Non-committal Fence----------53 No response-------------------28 Red X of Opposition-----------02 Conservative Party of Canada -- 73 total MPs Gold Tick of Support----------71 Non-committal Fence----------00 No response-------------------02 Red X of Opposition-----------00 NDP Party of Canada -- 14 total MPs Gold Tick of Support----------14 Non-committal Fence----------00 No response-------------------00 Red X of Opposition-----------00 Bloc Quebecois-- 33 total MPs Gold Tick of Support----------09 Non-committal Fence----------03 No response-------------------21 Red X of Opposition-----------00 Independent -- 9 total MPs Gold Tick of Support----------08 Non-committal Fence----------00 No response-------------------01 Red X of Opposition-----------00 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Brown" <browndm@sympatico.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] --- re position of Conservative Party I have tried to get a statement re release of the 1911 census from our local Conservative candidate, Sean Casey. In late May I had a conversation with Sean on my doorstep re the platform of the Conservative party re the census issue. To his credit he was aware of the situation and did talk about the death of S-13. He had worked in the office of an Alliance member in the last government so probably saw, not necessarily read, many of our e-mails. Sean did not know what the Conservative party had to say about the census release. In fact the Conservative party does not have an approved platform.... wait until October for that. Sean promised to get back to me in a few days with an answer. No such luck. Ten days ago I e-mailed him asking for a response and suggesting that my vote would be based partly on the position of the Conservative party on this issue. As of today there has been no response again. Am I voting Conservative??? Not likely. Norma Nepean

Hello Beverly There are TWO (2) other ways of receiving all messages posted on the Canada Census Campaign mail list. Canada Census Committee and Friends Check http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html Reason:- Many list administrators prefer not to have census information, even Gordon's monthly newsletter, posted on his or her mail lists. Personally, I have been placed on the REJECT list on a few lists and have been cautioned by others. I look after these two lists -- Gordon also has a personal list. Just send me the OK and you will receive the information. Now I will check to see if anything is wrong with the URL I checked the URL -- the column opened but slowly -- all 10 pages of it. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Vorpahl" <vorpahls@comcast.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: [CCC] Re: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V04 #161 > My Outlook Express won't let my open your attachment. Is there any other > method of sending me a copy? Thanks for your consideration. > Beverly Vorpahl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:00 PM > Subject: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V04 #161 > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm > >

Beverly. Outlook Express 6.0 it has an option that in default prevents attachments from being opened. To resolve the problem follow the instructions below. Open Outlook Express and click on 'Tools' Click on 'Options' Click on 'Security' Click to remove the tick in the box beside 'Do not allow attachements to be saved or opened that could potentially be a virus' Click 'Apply' and then 'OK' Happy Hunting. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Vorpahl" <vorpahls@comcast.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:31 AM Subject: [CCC] Re: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V04 #161 My Outlook Express won't let my open your attachment. Is there any other method of sending me a copy? Thanks for your consideration. Beverly Vorpahl ----- Original Message ----- From: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V04 #161

My Outlook Express won't let my open your attachment. Is there any other method of sending me a copy? Thanks for your consideration. Beverly Vorpahl ----- Original Message ----- From: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D Digest V04 #161

I have tried to get a statement re release of the 1911 census from our local Conservative candidate, Sean Casey. In late May I had a conversation with Sean on my doorstep re the platform of the Conservative party re the census issue. To his credit he was aware of the situation and did talk about the death of S-13. He had worked in the office of an Alliance member in the last government so probably saw, not necessarily read, many of our e-mails. Sean did not know what the Conservative party had to say about the census release. In fact the Conservative party does not have an approved platform.... wait until October for that. Sean promised to get back to me in a few days with an answer. No such luck. Ten days ago I e-mailed him asking for a response and suggesting that my vote would be based partly on the position of the Conservative party on this issue. As of today there has been no response again. Am I voting Conservative??? Not likely. Norma Nepean > From: Shirley <salane@eastlink.ca> > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:36:47 -0300 > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CCC] > Resent-From: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:41:41 -0600 > > > Following is the reply I received from the Gerald Keddy Conservative election > team to my question re the census release > > > Dear Shirley, > > Thank you for your note! We appreciate your taking the time to write Gerald > with your question. > > Gerald asked me to relay to you that as a student of history, he is very > concerned that geneological information from the census be available in the > public domain and should not be destroyed. As you state, geneological > information that could be available through other sources should be in the > public domain. Gerald's only concern was with how to handle financial > information which is protected information that could be traced to living > relatives. Even still, there seems little reason to destroy information > that would prove invaluable to future historians. > > Gerald himself is quite interested in his family history and attended a > historical society meeting (in period costume!) last Saturday in Mahone Bay. > Gerald was talking about his lineage back 8 generations to Alexander > Keddie in 1758 who was elected to the first legislative assembly of Nova > Scotia representing Lunenburg County. > > We hope this information is of assistance in helping to determine where > Gerald stands on this issue. If you have any further questions on this or > any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact us! > > Best regards, > > TEAM KEDDY > > Ryan Telford > Policy & Correspondence Manager > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm >

>----- Original Message ----- >From: Randy Kamp >To: mmbear@telus.net >Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:47 PM >Subject: Reply > > > > Hi Dale, > > Thanks for your question. I apologize for the delay in responding >but I've had lots of e-mails and I like to respond personally. > > I can't say for sure whether our party has a position on the >question you ask because we merged only six months ago and there are some >areas that we haven't gotten to yet. Having said that, I would be very >surprised if it's not the same as my own: that the Post 1901 Canadian >Census data should be released to the National Archives. I know that the >Canadian Alliance, one of our merger partners, supported the release of >the 1911 census records in 2003 so I expect that we will continue to work >for that. > > Regards, > > > Randy Kamp > > Randy Kamp website > Conservative Party of Canada website > > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines

Hi to all Here is the reply from Randy Kamp about release of 1911 census and later census. Dale Pekrul >----- Original Message ----- >From: Randy Kamp >To: mmbear@telus.net >Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:47 PM >Subject: Reply > > > > Hi Dale, > > Thanks for your question. I apologize for the delay in responding >but I've had lots of e-mails and I like to respond personally. > > I can't say for sure whether our party has a position on the >question you ask because we merged only six months ago and there are some >areas that we haven't gotten to yet. Having said that, I would be very >surprised if it's not the same as my own: that the Post 1901 Canadian >Census data should be released to the National Archives. I know that the >Canadian Alliance, one of our merger partners, supported the release of >the 1911 census records in 2003 so I expect that we will continue to work >for that. > > Regards, > > > Randy Kamp > > Randy Kamp website > Conservative Party of Canada website > > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines

The following is the message that I received from the Campaign Manager for the NDP candidate Paul Ferreira. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ferreira YSW NDP Campaign" <info@paulferreira.ca> To: "BREEN" <mwbreen@idirect.com> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: Re: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? > Dear Ms. Breen: > > As a follow-up to the previous message, where the personal pronoun "I" is used, that should be Paul. > > Sorry for the confusion. > > Best regards, > > Joey > > ---- > Joey Schwartz > Campaign Manager, > York South-Weston Federal NDP > > Mailing Address: P.O. Box 34501 - 1565 Jane St > Toronto, ON M9N 1R0 > > Campaign Office: 1733 Keele St. > Toronto, Ontario > Tel. 416-760-3385 > > Web: http://www.paulferreira.ca > > Elect Paul Ferreira for York South--Weston > New Energy. A positive choice. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Ferreira YSW NDP Campaign" <info@paulferreira.ca> To: "BREEN" <mwbreen@idirect.com> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:45 PM Subject: Re: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? > Dear Ms. Breen: > > Thank you for your interest in the my campaign. > > The NDP will support preserving the census information. At this point, there is no official policy about releasing it, so I can bring this to the party's attention and respond better at a later time. > > The NDP and I fully support a woman's right to reproductive choice. This has been the policy of the NDP for over three decades. > Thank you for your time. > > Best regards, > > Joey > on 6/24/04 6:50 PM, BREEN at mwbreen@idirect.com wrote: > > > > > Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. > > (A "No" reply will result in a no vote for the NDP/ Liberal/ Conservative/ GreenParty Party). My family and friends would like to know: > > > > "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" > > > > For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate. > > Stats Canada want to destroy them. The Censuses are a part of our Canadian history and someone in Ottawa wants to destroy it. > > A great many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace genealogical research, "inherited diseases" within our families, or British Home Children trying to find their families, what ever it may be it is so very IMPORTANT to us. > > > > Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. > > > > > > Margaret Breen > > Toronto, ONTARIO > > > > > > P.S. What about your personal stand on "Women's Rights to Choose"? > > > > > > > ---- > Joey Schwartz > Campaign Manager, > York South-Weston Federal NDP > > Mailing Address: P.O. Box 34501 - 1565 Jane St > Toronto, ON M9N 1R0 > > Campaign Office: 1733 Keele St. > Toronto, Ontario > Tel. 416-760-3385 > > Web: http://www.paulferreira.ca > > Elect Paul Ferreira for York South--Weston > New Energy. A positive choice. > > > > > > >

Greetings All. This afternoon I paid a visit to the office of Mark Warawa (Conservative - Langley Riding, BC) When I asked his position on public access of 92-year-old Census records he immediately voiced his support for such access. Should he be elected the updated Scoreboard will show him with a gold tick of support. Happy Hunting. Gordon

Following is the reply I received from the Gerald Keddy Conservative election team to my question re the census release Dear Shirley, Thank you for your note! We appreciate your taking the time to write Gerald with your question. Gerald asked me to relay to you that as a student of history, he is very concerned that geneological information from the census be available in the public domain and should not be destroyed. As you state, geneological information that could be available through other sources should be in the public domain. Gerald's only concern was with how to handle financial information which is protected information that could be traced to living relatives. Even still, there seems little reason to destroy information that would prove invaluable to future historians. Gerald himself is quite interested in his family history and attended a historical society meeting (in period costume!) last Saturday in Mahone Bay. Gerald was talking about his lineage back 8 generations to Alexander Keddie in 1758 who was elected to the first legislative assembly of Nova Scotia representing Lunenburg County. We hope this information is of assistance in helping to determine where Gerald stands on this issue. If you have any further questions on this or any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact us! Best regards, TEAM KEDDY Ryan Telford Policy & Correspondence Manager

-----Original Message----- From: Stephen Rogers [mailto:info@stephenrogers.ca] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:22 AM To: 'Adele Turner' Subject: RE: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Dear Adele, As a history buff, particularly Canadian history, I would have absolutely no problem with releasing the census for public consumption. Thank you for your question. Regards, Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Adele Turner [mailto:ajturner@shaw.ca] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:22 PM To: info@stephenrogers.ca Subject: ISSUES: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the Liberal Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond so I can decide how I want to vote. My parents live in your riding and your response on this issue will help make up their minds too. Adele Turner #67 - 1947 Purcell Way North Vancouver, BC V7J 3H4 1 604 987-5137 email: ajturner@shaw.ca P.S. Health Care in another issue that is important to me but your party has declared your stand on this issue. But what about your personal stand on "Women's Rights to Choose"? Or, are your beliefs the same as Mr. Harper's stand?

Thank you Pam. It is to be hoped that regardless of what Political Party forms the next government they will realize that no Bill that contains the conditions and restrictions of Bill S-13 will be acceptable to the genealogical and historical communities of Canada or elsewhere. The only resolution acceptable will the same unrestricted public access for records after 1906 that is currently available for 240 years of records up to that time. That access is currently permitted under the Access to Information and Privacy Acts and no legislative changes should be necessary for us to view the records. What is required is a government that has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the Chief Statistician and tell him to obey the laws of the land. To date we have not had such a government. Thank you for your support. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Budge at Rogers To: gordon_watts@telus.net Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Fw: Vote Consideration - Addressing the Census issue Hello Gordon I am a member of the Simcoe County list and I am forwarding you the reply I got from my Liberal Candidate for your information. The Conservative Candidate in the area wrote back and said that he did not have a current position on this, however if I voted for him he would work towards getting the issue resolved. Thank you for all the work you are doing on behalf of the Census and Genaeologists. Regards Pam Budge ----- Original Message ----- From: Peterson, Jim - Assistant 1 To: Pam Budge Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: RE: Vote Consideration - Addressing the Census issue Dear Mrs. Budge: On behalf of Jim Peterson, thank you for your email. I am writing to inform you that Mr. Peterson does support the release and public access to the 92 year old census records. As you may know, S-13 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act passed in the Senate last November. The Government of Canada then introduced the bill in the House of Commons where it reached second reading. Unfortunately, it died on the Order paper when the House was prorogued. However, I have learned from the Office of the Minister of Industry, that if re-elected, the Liberal government plans to re-introduce legislation, hopefully by the fall, which will support the release of the census records. I hope this information is of assistance. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely, Sarah Gray Special Assistant to the Hon. Jim Peterson -----Original Message----- From: Pam Budge at Rogers Sent: June 22, 2004 5:55 PM To: Peterson, Jim - M.P. Subject: Vote Consideration - Addressing the Census issue Dear Mr. Peterson I am writing this letter to you in order to find out your position regarding public access of 92-year-old Historic Census records. I am heavily involved in Family History/Genealogy research and as you know the Census Records are a valuable tool for this. Our access to these records are in danger of being stopped and I would like to know whether or not you are supportive of Census access being retained or not before I make my decision to vote for you. You can use this email address to reply Thank you in advance, Regards (Mrs.) Pam Budge

Greetings All. FYI. The latest of my columns on the Post 1901 Census issue has been posted. It may be viewed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce105.htm Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward this message without notice is granted.

----- Original Message ----- From: Michael L. MacDonald To: bob brown Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Releasing the 1911 Census Hello Mr. Brown. As a long time researcher and genealogist, I strongly support the release of the 1911 census figures and will fight to get them released. Like you, I have always been frustrated by our inability to get access to them. Thank you for writing me on this item of mutual interest. Sincerely, Mike MacDonald, Conservative candidate, Dartmouth-Cole Harbour ----- Original Message ----- From: bob brown To: mike@dartmouthcoleharbour.ca Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Releasing the 1911 Census Subject: How do you stand on the release of the Post 1901 Historic Federal Census? Before I commit myself on the June 28th ballot, I will be basing my vote on the response to this important question. (No reply will result in a no vote for the Liberal Party). I would like to know: "What is your stand, as a party and an individual, on the release of the Post 1901 Canadian Census to the National Archivist?" For over 5 years, many of us have been waging a long & hard battle to have the Censuses released after the 92 years mandate but Stats Canada want to destroy them. This is part of Canadian history and some bright lights in Ottawa want to destroy it. Many of us want to be able to carry on our research whether it is to trace "inherited diseases" within our families, British Home Children trying to find their families, or genealogical research, AND it is all important to us. Please respond as this will help influence how I vote. Robert Brown Dartmouth, N S 1-902-462-5907 email: roblen@3web.net