Ever Wonder Who Your Ancestor's Were? Have you had health problems, but no family history? Many Canadians, about 7 1/2 million of them, have been trying to find their Heritage. They're hopes have been squashed by the reluctance of our Government to open the Census files, which should, by law, have been opened 92 years after the records were recorded. All Canadians have been deprived of this resource, because of one man, the Dr. Fellegi, Statistician. By law, these records should have been released long ago, but he refuses to turn them over to the National Archives. Dr. Fellegi is an appointed officer, not elected, and only retains his post because the government has put this "little" problem on the backburner, and has refused to deal with it. We, as citizen's have a right to this information. Now that we have told the government that we do have a voice, let's tell them to get off their backsides, and do the right thing. Join the fight to get these records opened. Go to http://globalgenealogy.com/Census to find out how you can help. Bonnie Weber, Oakville, Ontario, Canada 29 June 2004

The only way to educate the public is with LETTERS TO THE EDITOR or News Releases as has been published in many papers. Many people are not working with computers, but a great many read newspapers -- I am one who reads many, both paper and online. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [CCC] Dr Felligi > Hi Bonnie. > > Our legal action to regain access to the 1911 National Census has > already been heard in Federal Court. We are currently waiting for the > Judge to bring down his decision. > > That being said, we should all be writing as many letters as we can to > newspaper editors, MPs (both old and new) and Senators, and publicizing > the Census issue in as many ways as we can think off. Call your local > talk shows to let them know. > > One of the biggest problems we have had is to educate the general public > as to the problem. Even after six or more years of campaigning it is > obvious that many in the genealogy and historical communities are not > yet aware of the problem. It is more important than ever to now advise > our MPs -- especially the newly elected ones -- that ANY legislation > that includes conditions and restrictions such as those contained in the > now defunct Bill S-13 are simply not acceptable. The ONLY acceptable > resolution is to allow the same unrestricted access to Historic Census > records after 1906 that is currently available for 240 years of records > up to that time. > > The government has not demonstrated any need for any restrictions to > access other than the 92-year waiting period after collection of Census. > There has been no groundswell of opposition to access or any request by > the public to cut off the access we have had in the past. We do not > believe that any legislative changes should be necessary to regain > access -- all that SHOULD be required is for the government to direct > the Chief Statistician to return care and control of the records to the > National Archivist. > > We need to spread the word, far and wide, in as many ways as possible. > We need to gather great numbers of signatures on our NEW petitions so > that we can overwhelm the House and Senate with them when Parliament > resumes sitting in September. > > As indicated in a previous posting the only way to remove Fellegi is if > he voluntarily retires, or is replaced by the Prime Minister appointing > someone else. We can encourage the PM to do that, but so far he has not > seemed inclined to do anything in that direction. > > Happy Hunting. > > Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net > Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee > Port Coquitlam, BC > > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:13 AM > Subject: [CCC] Dr Felligi > > > Wouldn't now be the right time to let all Canadians know of the Chief > Statistician's illegal holding of the Census? > > By law he should have turned over these records to the National Archives > years ago. > > Can we now get him forced out? He is not an elected official, but was > appointed by Jean Chretien. > > If we can get enough Editorials going, in the midst of this confusing > new government, we may not have to resort to a court case. > > Just a thought, > Bonnie Weber --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/25/04

Wouldn't now be the right time to let all Canadians know of the Chief Statistician's illegal holding of the Census? By law he should have turned over these records to the National Archives years ago. Can we now get him forced out? He is not an elected official, but was appointed by Jean Cretien. If we can get enough Editorials going, in the midst of this confusing new government, we may not have to resort to a court case. Just a thought, Bonnie Weber

Hi Bonnie. Our legal action to regain access to the 1911 National Census has already been heard in Federal Court. We are currently waiting for the Judge to bring down his decision. That being said, we should all be writing as many letters as we can to newspaper editors, MPs (both old and new) and Senators, and publicizing the Census issue in as many ways as we can think off. Call your local talk shows to let them know. One of the biggest problems we have had is to educate the general public as to the problem. Even after six or more years of campaigning it is obvious that many in the genealogy and historical communities are not yet aware of the problem. It is more important than ever to now advise our MPs -- especially the newly elected ones -- that ANY legislation that includes conditions and restrictions such as those contained in the now defunct Bill S-13 are simply not acceptable. The ONLY acceptable resolution is to allow the same unrestricted access to Historic Census records after 1906 that is currently available for 240 years of records up to that time. The government has not demonstrated any need for any restrictions to access other than the 92-year waiting period after collection of Census. There has been no groundswell of opposition to access or any request by the public to cut off the access we have had in the past. We do not believe that any legislative changes should be necessary to regain access -- all that SHOULD be required is for the government to direct the Chief Statistician to return care and control of the records to the National Archivist. We need to spread the word, far and wide, in as many ways as possible. We need to gather great numbers of signatures on our NEW petitions so that we can overwhelm the House and Senate with them when Parliament resumes sitting in September. As indicated in a previous posting the only way to remove Fellegi is if he voluntarily retires, or is replaced by the Prime Minister appointing someone else. We can encourage the PM to do that, but so far he has not seemed inclined to do anything in that direction. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: [CCC] Dr Felligi Wouldn't now be the right time to let all Canadians know of the Chief Statistician's illegal holding of the Census? By law he should have turned over these records to the National Archives years ago. Can we now get him forced out? He is not an elected official, but was appointed by Jean Cretien. If we can get enough Editorials going, in the midst of this confusing new government, we may not have to resort to a court case. Just a thought, Bonnie Weber

As I understand it, our problem now goes well beyond Dr. Fellegi and into the federal Cabinet. This is election night in Canada. The Liberals will form the next government, albeit with less than a majority. We can hope that some of our misguided political opponents lost their seats and/or their cabinet positions. Lois Sparling Lorraine Nason wrote: >If the major problem getting the census released is Dr Ivan P. Fellegi, >why not go to the source..... how can he be fired?? I am sure that he >has not been elected for life, has he? >I haven't kept up with the politics of Canada for a while, as I was >living in the southern part of the US.... and as you know, no news >travels that far south. I am now closer, but have a lot of catching up >to do. >All I know, is that if I don't do my job to the company's satisfaction, >I don't work there anymore. >Can he not be replaced??? >I have been researching my family for awhile now, and hit the brick wall >while waiting for 1911 reports. So I do have an interest in the release >of those records. Just want to know why no one has gone after Fellegi. >Lorraine > > >==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to >CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains >(in the Subject line and body of the message) the command >-- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > > > >

Greetings All. I have been watching the television election results since they first came on for the Atlantic Provinces and followed them across to the West Coast where I live. As I write this the final results are still coming in but it is obvious that the end result will be a Liberal Minority government. Some will be happy about that while others, for their own reasons, will be disappointed. One thing that will result is that the Liberals will have to seek cooperation with members of other parties in order to see legislation pass. They will no longer be able to push things through the legislature on their own and perhaps we can hope this will result in actions or legislation that will return to us the public access of Historic Census records that we seek -- with NO restrictions and NO conditions. Tomorrow there will be new names and new faces to include on the MPs Scoreboard. Some names we will be happy to remove. Others we will remove with reluctance -- such as Murray Calder, our champion in the House of Commons for the past several years. He was one Liberal we would have preferred to keep his seat in the House. We thank Murray for his past support of our efforts and wish him well in his life away from Parliament Hill. The MPs Scoreboard on the Post 1901 Census Project website will be updated as soon as I can get the information required to do so. One of the Red X's of opposition will disappear as it's owner was defeated. The owner of the other Red X retained his seat. At least one of the newly elected will have a Gold Tick of support. We will be looking to see who will be appointed as Minister of Canadian Heritage in the new cabinet. Ms. Helene Scherrer who was appointed as Heritage Minister last December was defeated in her riding. We hope, but do not really expect, to have someone appointed to the position of Industry Minister that will have the intestinal fortitude to tell the Chief Statistician to obey the laws of Canada and return care and control of Historic Census records to the National Archivist. We hope, but again do not really expect, PM Martin to remember his statements that bureaucrats should be following policy directed by Parliament and should not be directing policy themselves. Many promises have been made. It remains to be seen how many, if any, are kept. Time will tell. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

This is a copy of a letter, I have sent to the CapeBreton Post in response to an article in the CapeBreton Post, June 28th "Murray aims a final backhand against Harper." Copies have gone to Gordon Watts, Stephen Harper (Conservative Leader), Kenzie MacNeil (Conservative Candidate for C.B./C, and Rodger Cuzner MP, CapeBreton/Canso. As there was an attachment 'Joe Clark's letter', I couldn't send the original to the list. Senator Lowell Murray though a former CapeBretoner, is a senator for Pakeham, Ont. and it why that CBPost probably carried the article. Regards Juanita ..................... The only thing 'reprehensible' was that Senator Lowell Murray would make a such comments (C.B Post, June 28th/04 "Murray aims a final backhand against Harper.") Was it a last ditch effort by Sen. Murray (former confidante to Brian Mulroney and Joe Clark) to cosy up to the Liberals in hopes that they remain in power to help him further his cause of denying present and future generations of Canadians their heritage? Here is a man who has been fighting along with others to deny Canadians their rights as they now stand (under the National Archives Act, Privacy Act and Access to Freedom and Information Act) to have access to the Historical Census Records of Canada. Senator Lowell Murray endorses Chief Statistician Dr. Fellegi's plan to have the Statistics Act of Canada changed so as to deny Canadians and future generations their right to know. The Liberals though saying they endorse the Historical Census Records being turned over to the National Archives and given access by the public, have yet to do so. The Progressive Conservative stand on the issue at the time Joe Clark was the leader of the party was: "Progressive Conservative Party of Canada supports the release of the 1906 census as soon as possible. I believe that the ninety-two year waiting period recommended by the Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records is indeed an effective compromise for the release of census data, protecting the right to privacy and preserving the ability of all Canadians to access this priceless information." Joe Clark personally signed the letter. It is obvious Senator Lowell Murray wasn't in agreement with Joe Clark either so it doesn't surprise me that he would not agree with Stephen Harper, who also endorsed that these records be released to the National Archives for public access. Mr. Harper obviously isn't the "bogeyman" some would like to make him out to be. Thank heaven that Senator Lowell Murray, (Pakeham, Ont.), does not sit the Senate representing Nova Scotia, especially one representing CapeBreton. Maybe he has been gone for so long that he has forgotten how much CapeBretoners value their history, and their access to it. Juanita MacDonald Whycocomagh, Nova Scotia

Hello everyone, It's 6:20 pm Ottawa time and I am on my way out to hold my nose and vote. Just thought I would let you all know that I never got responses to my question of the candidates re their support of census release. The Liberal candidate's (Godbout) people at least acknowledged receipt of the question (over a week ago) and said they would get back to me. I never got any kind of reply from the Conservative (Robinson) candidate. Eugene Bellemaire (Liberal) who was our MP last time WAS in favour of the release, but he lost the nomination this time around. It is not clear who will take the riding this time. Patty

Hi Lorraine. Dr. Fellegi was appointed by the Prime Minister of the time about 1983/84 (?). Similar appointments for the positions of Information Commissioner, Privacy Commisioner National Librarian and National Archivist are for terms of seven years. Unfortunately the appointment for Chief Statistician has no fixed period -- it is simply for a term of "during pleasure". As such the only way there will be a new Chief Statistician would be for Fellegi to voluntarily take his well deserved, and overdue, retirement, or for our new Prime Minister (whoever that might be) to appoint a new Chief Statistician. My past calls for the government to either direct Ivan Fellegi to obey the laws of Canada and return care and control of Historic Census records to the National Archivist, or to seek his overdue retirement have gone unheeded. The only person able to 'go after' Fellegi is the Prime Minister. Happy Hunting Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Nason" <lorrainenason@webtv.net> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: [CCC] census problem If the major problem getting the census released is Dr Ivan P. Fellegi, why not go to the source..... how can he be fired?? I am sure that he has not been elected for life, has he? I haven't kept up with the politics of Canada for a while, as I was living in the southern part of the US.... and as you know, no news travels that far south. I am now closer, but have a lot of catching up to do. All I know, is that if I don't do my job to the company's satisfaction, I don't work there anymore. Can he not be replaced??? I have been researching my family for awhile now, and hit the brick wall while waiting for 1911 reports. So I do have an interest in the release of those records. Just want to know why no one has gone after Fellegi. Lorraine ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

If the major problem getting the census released is Dr Ivan P. Fellegi, why not go to the source..... how can he be fired?? I am sure that he has not been elected for life, has he? I haven't kept up with the politics of Canada for a while, as I was living in the southern part of the US.... and as you know, no news travels that far south. I am now closer, but have a lot of catching up to do. All I know, is that if I don't do my job to the company's satisfaction, I don't work there anymore. Can he not be replaced??? I have been researching my family for awhile now, and hit the brick wall while waiting for 1911 reports. So I do have an interest in the release of those records. Just want to know why no one has gone after Fellegi. Lorraine

Thank you Valerie. Regardless of how any one individual votes, today promises to be very interesting. For the first time in a long while my vote, cast on the West Coast, may actually count for something. Have a great day! Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Smith" <vsmith3266@rogers.com> To: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Can-census-1901] Post 1901 Census -- New Column posted Hi Gordon, I sent an email to the three major parties here in Saint John, NB regarding the release of the Census information. Only one party (Liberal) replied. As an undecided voter, even though I do not want Martin in, I will cast my vote Liberal. Paul Zed, Liberal in Saint John, states he believes these records should be released and he would vote Yes on the bill. Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: <CAN-CENSUS-1901-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: [Can-census-1901] Post 1901 Census -- New Column posted Greetings All. FYI. The latest of my columns on the Post 1901 Census issue has been posted. It may be viewed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce105.htm Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward this message without notice is granted.

To all:- As of midnight (an hour ago), our present Census Scoreboard will look a great deal different when Gordon has time to make the many necessary changes. I felt I was saying "good-bye" as I printed the various sections, some MPs may be returned, but ridings may have new names, for example Gerald Keddy will now have all of Shelburne, Queens, Lunenburg and part of Halifax County -- if elected in my Down Home part of Nova Scotia. To print the present scoreboard for later comparison, try this:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score1.htm [2 pages] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score2.htm [2 pages] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm [6 pages] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score4.htm [4 pages] http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score5.htm [4 pages] [Set printer for [1-2] etc so you do not waste paper. Remember, if elected, names will stay in same order with names of ridings changed. Also, if a GOLD tick was there before, it will remain there - only check to see if a secretary answered. Some may wish to make notes as ridings are declared - URL is http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=cir&document=rep&dir=rep&lang=e&textonly=false [All one line -- might open if clicked in centre of line] There are 10 pages -- names of ridings as we will know them in future. As Brian Gilchrist stated, we should appreciate the freedom to exercise our rights by voting tomorrow. [I will be enjoying my day at Sunnybrook where the veterans consider it a privilege and will be up one hour earlier]. When WE know who has been elected, Committee Members and others should contact all who do not have gold ticks or newcomers. Many have already done this -- Gordon will be posting messages to the scoreboard should the person be elected. Now -- if we could find a few more hours for Gordon -- do not anticipate the new scoreboard for up to TWO weeks as he has to also learn the "official" e-mail addresses of all - a BIG job!!! See all of you at the polls tomorrow -- at least in thought!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/26/04

Thank Bonnie:- On the present Census Scoreboard, there is a GREEN mark (or fence) showing a mixture of YES and NO. To verify this, go to http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ONT Also check the Quebec scoreboard -- more of the same! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:27 AM Subject: [CCC] Fw: Census > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brown, Bonnie" <BonnieBrown@teammartin.ca> > To: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: Census > > > > My apologies for not responding to your note on the census. Your note was > > addressed to Ms. Brown's campaign office rather than her consistuency > > office. I would expect Ms. Brown should have no problem supporting release > > of some census data should there be compelling reasons for that release > and > > should the cost of such releases be reasonable. There was no reference to > > your particular need in your note-it may have been in ealier notes to the > > consistuency but those records are not available to the campaign team. I > > have forwarded your note to her office staff and asked them to address > your > > question following the campaign. > > Jim LeFrancois for the Bonnie Brown campaign > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> > > To: <bonniebrown@teammartin.ca> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:58:50 -0500 > > Subject: Census > > > > > Hello Bonnie > > > > > > As I have only seen your bench sitting on the subject, I thought I > > > would ask > > > one more time. > > > Are you for the release of the Census? > > > > > > This has been my question to you for 3 years, and I would really > > > appreciate > > > an honest answer. > > > > > > Bonnie Weber > > > Oakville > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/26/04

This is a special posting -- thought many might be interested. I receive CPAC on channel 68 via Rogers Cable in Ontario. This is one way to take a cross-Canada tour -- then later, tune in for results!!! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: <comments@cpac.ca> To: <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:03 AM Subject: CPAC Highlights - June 28 MONDAY, JUNE 28 Join CPAC for an all-day cross-Canada campaign review with Campaign Politics. 10am ET: Louis-Hébert (Que.) 11am ET: West Nova (N.S.) 12pm ET: Surrey North (B.C.) 1pm ET: Toronto-Danforth (Ont.) 2pm ET: Brandon-Souris (Man.) 3pm ET: Souris-Moose Mountain (Sask.) 4pm ET: Edmonton-Strathcona (Alta.) 5pm ET: London-Fanshawe (Ont.) 6pm ET: Western Arctic (N.W.T.) 7pm ET: Outremont (Que.) Please note that regularly scheduled programming may be pre-empted due to live CPAC programming. Visit www.cpac.ca for detailed listings and rebroadcast dates and times. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/26/04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brown, Bonnie" <BonnieBrown@teammartin.ca> To: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Census > My apologies for not responding to your note on the census. Your note was > addressed to Ms. Brown's campaign office rather than her consistuency > office. I would expect Ms. Brown should have no problem supporting release > of some census data should there be compelling reasons for that release and > should the cost of such releases be reasonable. There was no reference to > your particular need in your note-it may have been in ealier notes to the > consistuency but those records are not available to the campaign team. I > have forwarded your note to her office staff and asked them to address your > question following the campaign. > Jim LeFrancois for the Bonnie Brown campaign > > -----Original Message----- > From: "b1cuhg45" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> > To: <bonniebrown@teammartin.ca> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:58:50 -0500 > Subject: Census > > > Hello Bonnie > > > > As I have only seen your bench sitting on the subject, I thought I > > would ask > > one more time. > > Are you for the release of the Census? > > > > This has been my question to you for 3 years, and I would really > > appreciate > > an honest answer. > > > > Bonnie Weber > > Oakville > > > >

In Summary: This is a response to a question about what was the so-called "Patriots War" and was it associated with the 1837 Upper Canadian rebellion Preamble: On the eve of a very important Canadian election, and during the week of both the Canada Day and St. Jean Baptiste celebrations, here we go with a mini Canadian History lesson ... Commentary: It is sad to state that even the need to answer this question in a forum such as this is a sad statement of how poorly our Canadian history is taught in our schools. The events surrounding both 1837 rebellions is vibrant and exciting and so vitally important to understand the reasons behind the formation of our Country in 1867, and indeed some of the political situations that currently exist. Ok, to the point - there were technically two separate events which began in the same year and have become known as the Rebellions of 1837. The Upper Canada Rebellion was led by William Lyon Mackenzie, (who became the maternal grandfather of Canadian Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King). The underlying causes of the Upper Canadian Rebellion against the so called "Family Compact" are different, but yet similar to the underlying causes of the Lower Canadian Rebellion against the so-called "Chateau Clique". The Lower Canada Rebellion of 1837 and 1838 was led by Louis Joseph Papineau, and was known in the French language as the "rebellion des Patriotes" (which translates into "Patriots War"). Some of the Lower Canadian "Patriots" (as opposed to the Upper Canadian "Rebels") were members of the "Parti Canadien", which later became known as the "Parti Patriote" - which is in turn one of the ancestors of the Quebec nationalism currently exhibited in the Parti Quebecois. If you do a Google Search there are several citations to the Patriots War. May I respectfully remind all who read this note that those known either as "Patriots" or "Rebels" and who committed the civil disobedience and fought in armed battles in 1837 and 1838 were fighting for something that they did not have, and they wanted to do what we now take for granted - have the right to vote in free elections. On Monday I implore you all to exercise one of your rights and responsibilities that comes with being a Canadian citizen. It matters not which party - and remember that you can even formally reject the ballot altogether, and done properly it has to be counted - it is not a 'spoilled' ballot. Ask the Deputy Returning Officer what the formal rules are for rejecting the ballot before you proceed to the Polling Clerks. When you do vote may I suggest saying a silent "thank you" in tribute to not only the Rebels and Patriots of the Rebellions of 1837 who began the process, but also to all those men and women who fought in any Canadian War to preserve our freedom! What a marvelous way to honour and pay homage to the very ancestors and family members that we are trying to trace in researching our genealogies! And remember, that all things being equal, this will be the Canadian Parliament which frees the hostage post 1906 census records! Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&S leetooze" <lmjassoc@durham.net> To: <ONTARIO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 2004 Jun 26 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [ONT] 1837 Rebellion > Lorine: > You are right - I've never heard it called that here - Upper Canada > Rebellion - 1837 Rebellion - McKenzie Rebellion - nothing else. > Sher > > >you will find lots on the Rebellion of 1837/38 (As far as I > >know it was only called the Patriot War in the USA, not in > >Canada, maybe someone else can correct me on that if I'm > >wrong) > > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmil/ > > > >Choose from the list of Wars. > > > >Lorine > >Lorine McGinnis Schulze > > > >* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) > >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ > > > >* Naturalization Records > >http://naturalizationrecords.com/ > > > >* USA Genealogy > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ > > > >otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net > > > > > >==== ONTARIO Mailing List ==== > >*** Ontario GenWeb *** > >http://www.geneofun.on.ca/ongenweb/ > > > ==== ONTARIO Mailing List ==== > *** ONTARIO BIRTHS/MARRIAGES/DEATHS *** > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/vs.shtml > >

Listers, I have just received the following reply from the Liberal candidate's campaign manager. I replied that I want Mr. Lang to personally respond. If I get an answer from Mr. Lang I will post it. Laurie Patterson -----------------Campaign Managers response --------------------------- Mr. Patterson: My apologies for our late reply to your survey. As I'm sure you can appreciate, this has been an intensely busy number of days. However, I would very much like to answer the questions in your survey. I encourage you to contact me at the office, so we can speak about those questions directly. Best, Chris Flavelle Campaign Manager, Tim Lang Campaign (905) 697-8372

Olga... Senator Lorna Milne's ancestors were the Mick's of Micksburg, Stafford Township. Here branch of the Mick's was Adam Miller and Mary Ann Mick. They farmed in Wilberforce Twp, but not sure if Lake Dorie is in Wilberforce Twp. Armand Haley (also a Micksburg Mick) -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:10 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Re: census Thank you Olga. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Olga Lewis To: Gordon A. Watts Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: census Asked the Liberal candidate in my riding for his views on releasing the census records and he is all for them being released to the public as they should be. He also informed me that Senator Milne's ancestors came from the Ottawa Valley from a little place called Lake Dorie. Interesting, although I knew she had relatives in the area, I was unaware that her ancestors originated from the area as well. Rob Jamieson is the Liberal candidate here. Keep up the good work. The candidate for the Conservatives had also expressed some time ago before she was running again for office that she felt the records should be released also. Sheryl Gallant is the Conservative candidate here Olga Lewis ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net

To all -- especially Colleen Beaumier, Incumbent Liberal candidate:- Tomorrow is the Day of Reckoning, states all the news media!! In addition, the ridings around Toronto are ones to watch with coverage beginning at 9:30 so one TV station reports. However, with deep interest, since March 1999, of release of the 1911 Canadian Census Records, I viewed another source:- http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm I scrolled down to your name, Colleen and read the less than satisfactory reply and non-replies since 1999 -- the gold tick of agreement has never been updated since then, even when the government presented one census release bill. I have yet to learn of your present opinion --- YES or NO! I had the coffee-pot on and ready to serve when you and Sheila Copps were campaigning in my city of Brampton, where you also live and in my riding, which you hope to gain - Brampton West. I waited but nobody came calling at my door. However, the Conservative and NDP candidates liked company -- they canvassed together, plus one worker for each party. Should you not know what we would be able to view on the census, you should look at one page of the following. Automated Genealogy -- 1901 and 1906 http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html You will notice there is only one page -- also writing is not too great, as enumerators were not appointed, but had to apply for the job. You will notice the following headings:- Line # / Family or Household / Name of each person in family or household on 31st March, 1901 / Sex / Colour / Relationship to head of family or household / Single, married, head of family or household / Month and date of birth / Year of birth / Age at last birthday. [The second page only includes Origin, Relation/Occupation - no $$$] NOTE -- We have to view the 1901 census -- Parliament has possibly listened to Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi and not released the 1911 to our National Archives. [1906 included Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba] Wishing you all the best on June 28th, Colleen -- but honestly, there is only a possibility of a passport office in Brampton {Guardian] not as you stated in the second bit of paper left at my door today. One of the people in Brampton West, Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm [My "coast-to-coast-to-coast" webpage] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/25/04

I have written an e mail to each of my 3 constituents here in Hastings-Prince Edward. NOT one has had the courtesy to reply one way or the other . My e mails went out over a week ago, almost two weeks ago for one. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover