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    1. RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions
    2. Paul, Jeff: SEN
    3. Actually Rob is half right. The name of the institution is the "Library and Archives of Canada". But Ian Wilson's title is still National Archivist. Jeff Paul Policy Advisor Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne -----Original Message----- From: Robber [mailto:robber@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:36 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Hello everyone, A quick reminder for the phrasing of these letters that we no longer have a "National Archivist" or a "National Archives Act". As of 21 June 2004, the National Archives and National Library merged to form "Library and Archives Canada". The head of the new institution, Ian Wilson, the former National Archivist, is now the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada" and it is the "Library and Archives of Canada Act". Cheers, Rob Fisher -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Booth [mailto:gbooth@magma.ca] Sent: July 6, 2004 4:34 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act" at the end of the first question. The passage would read: ". . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read ". . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 30/06/2004 ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

    07/07/2004 03:11:27
    1. RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions
    2. Robber
    3. Hello everyone, A quick reminder for the phrasing of these letters that we no longer have a "National Archivist" or a "National Archives Act". As of 21 June 2004, the National Archives and National Library merged to form "Library and Archives Canada". The head of the new institution, Ian Wilson, the former National Archivist, is now the "Librarian and Archivist of Canada" and it is the "Library and Archives of Canada Act". Cheers, Rob Fisher -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Booth [mailto:gbooth@magma.ca] Sent: July 6, 2004 4:34 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act” at the end of the first question. The passage would read: “. . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read “. . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 30/06/2004

    07/06/2004 03:36:13
    1. Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions
    2. bob brown
    3. I agree the addition of those words would let the MP's know that the census (1911)should have been and future census should be turned over National Archives and not retained or destroyed by Statistics Canada. Bob in Dartmouth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Booth" <gbooth@magma.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions > It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in > accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act" at > the end of the first question. > > > > The passage would read: ". . . direct the Chief to > immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada > to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National > Archives of Canada Act as amended? > > > > In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so > that it would read ". . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in > accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act > and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached > thereto." > > > > This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the > duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic > value of the personal information contained in the censuses. > > > > Gordon in Ottawa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] > Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions > > > > Greetings All. > > > > Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking > > our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change > > in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a > > letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that > > letter I will be asking the following questions. > > > > > > *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support > > a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct > > the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and > > control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? > > > > > > *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would > > add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: > > > > "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not > > later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the > > care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access > > in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy > > Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." > > > > > > These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The > > suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued > > public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add > > unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain > > the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information > > collected through Census or survey established by the Access to > > Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. > > > > Happy Hunting. > > > > Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net > > Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee > > Port Coquitlam, BC > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census > > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm > > > > Permission to forward without notice is granted. > > > > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > > How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains > > (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command > > -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text. > > > > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/ > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

    07/06/2004 01:36:37
    1. RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions
    2. Gordon Booth
    3. It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act” at the end of the first question. The passage would read: “. . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read “. . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted. ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from Digest Mode. Send a message to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the Subject line and body of the message) the command -- unsubscribe -- and no additional text.

    07/06/2004 11:33:55
    1. Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Gordon B. One of my faults -- if I have any <]:-) -- is that in my writing I have a tendency to use too many words. I have tried to remedy that but I cannot say that I have been entirely successful. I have no problem at all with anyone adding the words you suggest to the questions they ask their MPs. They do not change the intent of the questions. It has been my thought that when writing to our MPs someone would not just ask the questions cold and without explanation and leave it at that, but that they would elaborate somewhat by explaining what the problem is and what we seek to remedy it. In my own case I will provide additional information in my covering letter and a statement of facts that will accompany the questions I ask. With some MPs it would appear that we must speak slowly and try to use words of one syllable to make them understand. We don't want to confuse them. Hopefully we will not have to hit them on the head to get their attention. As usual you have made some constructive suggestions and your support is greatly appreciated. Happy Hunting. Gordon W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Booth" <gbooth@magma.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions It occurs to me that the questions might be improved if one were to add "in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act" at the end of the first question. The passage would read: ". . . direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist in accordance with paragraph 6 (1) of the National Archives of Canada Act as amended? In addition, a similar addition could be made to the second question, so that it would read ". . . National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information Act; the Privacy Act and the National Archives of Canada Act, and with the Regulations attached thereto." This would strongly suggest that the MP read and become acquainted with the duties and functions of the National Archivist in relation to the historic value of the personal information contained in the censuses. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net] Sent: July 6, 2004 2:12 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - New questions Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

    07/06/2004 11:09:03
    1. Post 1901 Census - New questions
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. Since the formation of the Canada Census Committee we have been asking our parliamentarians the same question. It is perhaps time for a change in what we ask them. For the past few days I have been working on a letter that I will be sending to all MPs - both old and new. In that letter I will be asking the following questions. *-- Would you, as an elected Member of Parliament, propose or support a Motion in the House of Commons calling for the government to direct the Chief Statistician of Canada to immediately transfer care and control of the 1911 National Census of Canada to the National Archivist? *-- Would you support a Bill (preferably a Government Bill) that would add to the Statistics Act a single clause similar to the following: "Original schedules of Census or authentic copies thereof shall, not later than thirty (30) years following collection, be transferred to the care and control of the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with provisions of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Regulations attached thereto." These questions compliment the goals stated on our new petitions. The suggested addition to the Statistics Act would ensure the continued public access sought by genealogists and historians. It would not add unnecessary conditions or restrictions to that access. It would retain the balance (92 years) between 'privacy' and 'access' of information collected through Census or survey established by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts in 1980/83. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

    07/06/2004 05:12:19
    1. Post-1901 Census -- Family Members Are Hoping for 1911 Census Release
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To The Rt. Hon. Paul Martin, Prime Minister of Canada Congratulations on your election in your riding. We sincerely hope you will be in agreement with the following. Canadians, assisted by people of other countries, have been working since March 1999 for the release of the 1911 census records, which were scheduled to have been released June 1, 2003. The records were enumerated on March 1, 1911 -- a long time ago, when we know United States has access to the 1930 census records of their country. Census records are not only necessary when searching for family members, but these were also the last records enumerated before World War One. To date we have both 1901 and 1906 online, the latter of three provinces http://automatedgenealogy.com/ If you check you will notice only basic details are given - no private data. There is a second page on microfiche, but this only gives Nationality, Place of Birth, Religion, Occupation -- PRIVACY is not invaded. The Canada Census Committee have a scoreboard -- you are on http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score4.htm#PQ At present we do not have an existing census release bill, but are collecting petitions -- see http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ There is a great deal of information there -- plus the Canada Census committee http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html [Several changes will be made on this page] Sincerely hope you will exchange the UNDECIDED Green symbol for a Gold tick meaning YES. If not, we request you give us your reasons - 92 years is long enough. The Canada Census Committee members request you to instruct Dr. Ivan P, Fellegi to transfer the Canadian census records automatically to our National Archives -- at present, only you, as Prime Minister, can do this -- or replace him with another. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    07/05/2004 03:39:01
    1. Post-1901 Census -- Time To Turn On The Computers!!!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- Believe it or not, the Prime Minister and new and old Members of Parliament will be in Ottawa tomorrow -- a good opportunity to catch a few of them with requests. I am very serious about this -- we are all in provinces and should contact the ones from our own provinces -- and above all, add your full name and address -- in case some desire to reply by snail-mail. The newly-posted MP Scoreboard shows:- BC -- 23 Gold --- 1 Undecided --- 12 No Reply AB -- 21 Gold --- 1 Undecided --- 6 No Reply SK -- 7 Gold --- 1 Undecided --- 6 No Reply MB -- 10 Gold --- __________ ---- 4 No Reply ON -- 40 Gold --- 14 Undecided -- 46 No Reply PQ -- 14 Gold --- 11 Undecided -- 50 No Reply NB -- 4 Gold --- 2 Undecided -- 4 No Reply NS -- 10 Gold ---- ___________ -- 1 No Reply PEI -- 3 Gold --- 1 Undecided NL -- 3 Gold --- 1 Undecided --- 3 No Reply NWT -- ------------ 1 Undecided YK -- 1 Gold NT -- -------------- 1 Undecided The "No Reply" numbers are mainly new Members of Parliament plus the usual few procastinators. Check Quebec -- you will find the Prime Minister is very Undecided, as is Anne McLellan in Alberta. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ Petitions are downloadable --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    07/05/2004 02:02:26
    1. It is Hoped You Will Say YES To 1911 Census Records Release
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To David Tilson, MP -- Dufferin-Caledon:- Congratulations on your election in the Dufferin-Caledon riding. We sincerely hope you will be in agreement with the following. Canadians, assisted by people of other countries, have been working since March 1999 for the release of the 1911 census records, which were scheduled to have been released June 1, 2003. Census records are not only necessary when searching for family members, but these were also the last records enumerated before World War One. To date we have both 1901 and 1906 online, the latter of three provinces http://automatedgenealogy.com/ If you check you will notice only basic details are given - no private data. The Canada Census Committee have a scoreboard -- you are on http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Score3.htm#ON At present we do not have an existing census release bill, but are collecting petitions -- see http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ Sincerely hope you will exchange the Blue ? for a Gold tick meaning YES. If not, we request you give us your reasons - 92 years is long enough. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/post1901census.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    07/05/2004 12:29:49
    1. OFF TOPIC -- Relaxation time!!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mouzar/queenscountytimes/page2/page2.html Should any of the Census Committee and Friends be from the Liverpool area of Nova Scotia, one well-known person was Henry Hensey. He was lead singer in the Polka Dots -- you name it, Henry did it!! The music is there so have the speakers on!! Also, this site changes every week -- better than a paper newspaper!! I suggest it be kept. Muriel P.S. -- Back to work tomorrow!!!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    07/04/2004 05:51:50
    1. Re: CCC - OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends - Part 2
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. Hello Brian:- Unless it has been moved, the small grey granite marker is lovated at the corner of Wellington St. W. and Queen St. S. -- at the corner. Should I not be correct about the location, Mayor Susan Fennell's office is just a few steps away. There had been some talk of re-locating the small tribute in the "Legion Corner" of Ken Whillans Square. Also note the small memorial tribute to Terry Piani, at the corner of George S. and Wellington W. Brampton remembers!! Also, one high school had many young American lads a few years ago. Many have remained as citizens. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- > This list always amazes me for the knowledge that people share .. > > My office is right across the street from Gage Park in Brampton and had no > idea that there was a 9/11 Memorial located there. I will certainly seek it > out. > > Funny how something spawns memories - so fresh, and yet so far ... > > When I saw on television the terrorist actions involving the second tower of > the WTC, my inclination was to head to my own Church (which happens to be > the historic St. James' Cathedral in downtown Toronto) as there would be > many who would come to pray, and need some one to listen ... I happen to be > a Lay Officiant. > > At St. James' we have a 12:30 Mass every day, at which there are usually no > more than dozen people in a small Chapel at the front of The Cathedral. > > When I arrived, the bells were already being tolled by hand, and the > resonant sound of the tenor bells was melancholy. Indeed on that day the > ringing of the bells fulfilled their ancient tradition of being a call to > prayer. > > I have a vivid recollection of a stream of humanity - Bay Street "suits", > homeless street people, the teens from the local schools and colleges - all > sorts of people flowing into the great Cathedral seeking comfort and solace, > and this image is something that I will never forget ... > > The Priest in charge summoned me to sub-Deacon that Mass - which was the > first time I had ever done that. We had over 600 people for that one > service, and through the next few days the people just kept arriving ... As > one of the Servers for The Cathedral I can inform you that over 10,000 > people received Holy Communion in the just over half month remaining > following 9/11 (as I am one of those who prepare the vessels - that figure > is from a count!). > > The Memorial Service for one of the victims - David Barkway - was also held > at St. James'. It has been my honour to serve at many funerals over the > years, and certainly this was one of the hardest ones, on an emotional > level, that I have ever had to deal with. His widow was pregnant at the > time. > > The late great Canadian radio broadcaster, Gordon Sinclair summarized my > feelings best many years ago in his tribute to The American's - they might > not always be right, nor are they always wrong - but by God they are one of > the first to help out when need arises. > > Let me conclude by stating that I am one very proud Canadian who salutes my > friends and genealogical colleagues who reside in The United States of > America, for all the good things that you, your families and friends do - > thank you, and God bless America! > > Have a safe and happy "4th"! > Cheers! > J. Brian Gilchrist > Toronto, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 2004 Jul 03 11:32 PM > Subject: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends > > > > To all:- > > > > The documentary "A Diary Between Friends" was televised again > > this evening -- a tribute to Canada's assistance to many Americans > > on September 11 -- known to us as 9/11. The show was televised > > on the Life channel -- I received it on Channel 41. > > > > We were proud to have been of assistance when this happened. > > > > Following are the names of Canadians who were killed during the > > happenings of 9/11 -- I post this In Memory. > > > > Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca > > --------- > > The 24 Canadians who died in 9/11 were: > > Michael Arczynski, 45 > > Garnet Bailey, 53 > > David Barkway, 34 > > Ken Basnicki, 47 > > Jane Beatty, 53 > > Cindy Connolly, 40 > > Arron Dack, 39 > > Christine Egan, 55 > > Michael Egan, 51 (Christine's brother) > > Albert Elmarry, 30 > > Meredith Ewart, 29 > > Peter Feidelberg, 34 (Meredith's husband) > > Alexander Filipov, 70 > > Ralph Gerhardt, 34 > > Stuart Lee, 30 > > Mark Ludvigsen, 32 > > Bernard Mascarenhas, 54 > > Colin McArthur, 52 > > Mike Pelletier, 36 > > Donald Robson, 52 > > Roy Santos, 37 > > Vladimir Tomasevic, 36 > > Chantal Vincelli, 38 > > Debbie Williams, 35 > > ----- > > There is a plaque on Parliament Hill but in a place where the > > public is not allowed. > > The 9/11 monument in Brampton was erected the morning > > after the disaster, located in Gage Park where a commemorative > > service will be held tomorrow (Sunday - July 4) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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    07/04/2004 01:22:54
    1. RE: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends
    2. Betty Malone
    3. Thank you, Muriel. Our Canadian brethren who died that day need to be remembered too! -----Original Message----- From: Muriel M. Davidson [mailto:muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:33 PM To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends To all:- The documentary "A Diary Between Friends" was televised again this evening -- a tribute to Canada's assistance to many Americans on September 11 -- known to us as 9/11. The show was televised on the Life channel -- I received it on Channel 41. We were proud to have been of assistance when this happened. Following are the names of Canadians who were killed during the happenings of 9/11 -- I post this In Memory. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca --------- The 24 Canadians who died in 9/11 were: Michael Arczynski, 45 Garnet Bailey, 53 David Barkway, 34 Ken Basnicki, 47 Jane Beatty, 53 Cindy Connolly, 40 Arron Dack, 39 Christine Egan, 55 Michael Egan, 51 (Christine's brother) Albert Elmarry, 30 Meredith Ewart, 29 Peter Feidelberg, 34 (Meredith's husband) Alexander Filipov, 70 Ralph Gerhardt, 34 Stuart Lee, 30 Mark Ludvigsen, 32 Bernard Mascarenhas, 54 Colin McArthur, 52 Mike Pelletier, 36 Donald Robson, 52 Roy Santos, 37 Vladimir Tomasevic, 36 Chantal Vincelli, 38 Debbie Williams, 35 ----- There is a plaque on Parliament Hill but in a place where the public is not allowed. The 9/11 monument in Brampton was erected the morning after the disaster, located in Gage Park where a commemorative service will be held tomorrow (Sunday - July 4) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04 ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at http://globalgazette.net

    07/04/2004 11:23:26
    1. CCC - OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends - Part 2
    2. gilchrists
    3. This list always amazes me for the knowledge that people share .. My office is right across the street from Gage Park in Brampton and had no idea that there was a 9/11 Memorial located there. I will certainly seek it out. Funny how something spawns memories - so fresh, and yet so far ... When I saw on television the terrorist actions involving the second tower of the WTC, my inclination was to head to my own Church (which happens to be the historic St. James' Cathedral in downtown Toronto) as there would be many who would come to pray, and need some one to listen ... I happen to be a Lay Officiant. At St. James' we have a 12:30 Mass every day, at which there are usually no more than dozen people in a small Chapel at the front of The Cathedral. When I arrived, the bells were already being tolled by hand, and the resonant sound of the tenor bells was melancholy. Indeed on that day the ringing of the bells fulfilled their ancient tradition of being a call to prayer. I have a vivid recollection of a stream of humanity - Bay Street "suits", homeless street people, the teens from the local schools and colleges - all sorts of people flowing into the great Cathedral seeking comfort and solace, and this image is something that I will never forget ... The Priest in charge summoned me to sub-Deacon that Mass - which was the first time I had ever done that. We had over 600 people for that one service, and through the next few days the people just kept arriving ... As one of the Servers for The Cathedral I can inform you that over 10,000 people received Holy Communion in the just over half month remaining following 9/11 (as I am one of those who prepare the vessels - that figure is from a count!). The Memorial Service for one of the victims - David Barkway - was also held at St. James'. It has been my honour to serve at many funerals over the years, and certainly this was one of the hardest ones, on an emotional level, that I have ever had to deal with. His widow was pregnant at the time. The late great Canadian radio broadcaster, Gordon Sinclair summarized my feelings best many years ago in his tribute to The American's - they might not always be right, nor are they always wrong - but by God they are one of the first to help out when need arises. Let me conclude by stating that I am one very proud Canadian who salutes my friends and genealogical colleagues who reside in The United States of America, for all the good things that you, your families and friends do - thank you, and God bless America! Have a safe and happy "4th"! Cheers! J. Brian Gilchrist Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel M. Davidson" <muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 2004 Jul 03 11:32 PM Subject: [CCC] OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends > To all:- > > The documentary "A Diary Between Friends" was televised again > this evening -- a tribute to Canada's assistance to many Americans > on September 11 -- known to us as 9/11. The show was televised > on the Life channel -- I received it on Channel 41. > > We were proud to have been of assistance when this happened. > > Following are the names of Canadians who were killed during the > happenings of 9/11 -- I post this In Memory. > > Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca > --------- > The 24 Canadians who died in 9/11 were: > Michael Arczynski, 45 > Garnet Bailey, 53 > David Barkway, 34 > Ken Basnicki, 47 > Jane Beatty, 53 > Cindy Connolly, 40 > Arron Dack, 39 > Christine Egan, 55 > Michael Egan, 51 (Christine's brother) > Albert Elmarry, 30 > Meredith Ewart, 29 > Peter Feidelberg, 34 (Meredith's husband) > Alexander Filipov, 70 > Ralph Gerhardt, 34 > Stuart Lee, 30 > Mark Ludvigsen, 32 > Bernard Mascarenhas, 54 > Colin McArthur, 52 > Mike Pelletier, 36 > Donald Robson, 52 > Roy Santos, 37 > Vladimir Tomasevic, 36 > Chantal Vincelli, 38 > Debbie Williams, 35 > ----- > There is a plaque on Parliament Hill but in a place where the > public is not allowed. > The 9/11 monument in Brampton was erected the morning > after the disaster, located in Gage Park where a commemorative > service will be held tomorrow (Sunday - July 4) > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04 > > > ==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ==== > Read Gordon A. Watts' column on Post 1901 Census issues at > http://globalgazette.net > >

    07/03/2004 06:58:10
    1. OFF TOPIC -- A Stamp Is A Bit of History
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all who collect stamps:- My hometown newspaper, The Liverpool Advance, had the following article last week:- PORT MOUTON OFFERS STAMP The Port Mouton Canada Post Office will be offering another special commemorative envelope and stamp commemorating the arrival of champlain and DeMonts to the New World. On June 28, Canada Post unveiled the DeMonts at Ste. Croix stamp and which will be combined with a commemorative envelope and local stamp cancellation. Local artist Roger Savage designed the Port Mouton envelope while Kyla Williams esigned the cancellation stamp. ------------- For the many who might be interested in the Acadian festivities in parts of Nova Scotia, Port Mouton (10 miles west of Liverpool) will be one place to visit. The explorers settled here for one winter, but later founded Port Royal with a better climate. Should anyone be interested and not able to get to Port Mouton, try the following:- The Postmistress, Canada Post Office, Port Mouton, Queens county, Nova Scotia BOT 1TO [I am certain you could learn the exact cost in Cdn. funds] Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON -- formerly from the Port Mouton area --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 7/1/04

    07/03/2004 06:28:48
    1. OFF TOPIC -- A Diary Between Friends
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- The documentary "A Diary Between Friends" was televised again this evening -- a tribute to Canada's assistance to many Americans on September 11 -- known to us as 9/11. The show was televised on the Life channel -- I received it on Channel 41. We were proud to have been of assistance when this happened. Following are the names of Canadians who were killed during the happenings of 9/11 -- I post this In Memory. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca --------- The 24 Canadians who died in 9/11 were: Michael Arczynski, 45 Garnet Bailey, 53 David Barkway, 34 Ken Basnicki, 47 Jane Beatty, 53 Cindy Connolly, 40 Arron Dack, 39 Christine Egan, 55 Michael Egan, 51 (Christine's brother) Albert Elmarry, 30 Meredith Ewart, 29 Peter Feidelberg, 34 (Meredith's husband) Alexander Filipov, 70 Ralph Gerhardt, 34 Stuart Lee, 30 Mark Ludvigsen, 32 Bernard Mascarenhas, 54 Colin McArthur, 52 Mike Pelletier, 36 Donald Robson, 52 Roy Santos, 37 Vladimir Tomasevic, 36 Chantal Vincelli, 38 Debbie Williams, 35 ----- There is a plaque on Parliament Hill but in a place where the public is not allowed. The 9/11 monument in Brampton was erected the morning after the disaster, located in Gage Park where a commemorative service will be held tomorrow (Sunday - July 4) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    07/03/2004 05:32:33
    1. OFF TOPIC -- Best Wishes to Our American Friends!
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. May Be Forwarded To all OUR American friends... Happy 4th of July !!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to this web site and click the sky multiple times and fast.... http://www.njagyouth.org/liberty.htm From Gary Boivin (Canadian) =================== Many thanks to Gary Boivin for this interesting and very safe way to celebrate "the glorious Fourth of July". Although I am Canadian, my mother was born in Maine and I have many other American relationships -- the 49th does not divide us! You will notice I have sent this as a special memo to members of the Canada Census Committee -- should anyone in United States like to assist, please send a personal message to me. We appreciate your help -- and hope you enjoy Gary's fireworks! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    07/03/2004 12:45:55
    1. Post 1901 Census - Scoreboard updated
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. The MP Scoreboard on the Post 1901 Census Project website (at the URL following my signature) has been updated to reflect changes made with the 28 June Federal Election. There are 106 new Members of Parliament out of a total of 308. There were 121 changes in riding names. Each addition or change to the Scoreboard requires multiple changes to be made to at least four files so for the last few days I have not strayed far from my computer. New Members of Parliament are indicated in the left column of the Scoreboard with a single asterisk (*). E-mail addresses for new MPs have been calculated based on a formula using their name and initials. These addresses are indicated in the right column of the Scoreboard with a double asterisk (**).They may not yet be activated. Changes to these addresses will be made as I become aware of them. Correspondence logs accessible by clicking on the MP's name in the left column of the Scoreboard are being updated but it will probably take the better part of the next several days to complete this. Current standings on the MP Scoreboard are as follows: FOR 139 AGAINST 1 NON-COMMITTAL 36 NO RESPONSE 132 We have our work cut out for us with 106 new Members to inform regarding the refusal of the Chief Statistician to allow transfer of Historic Census records to the National Archives for subsequent public access. We need to continue seeking support from our parliamentary representatives for the public access to these records that is currently withheld from us. The snail-mail address for contacting our Members of Parliament is as follows: Mr./Ms. (Name of MP) Member of Parliament House of Commons Parliament Buildings Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

    07/02/2004 05:44:03
    1. OFF TOPIC -- A Message From A Very Happy Canadian
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all:- This is a private message -- only being sent to all concerned with the census release fight. As the D-Day 60th anniversary ceremonies were being shown on CPAC -- I received an expected phone call -- from one who is proud to call Canada his home -- he had watched the ceremony and thought of me -- obtained the phone number from one of my brothers. About ten years ago, my husband and I were staying at a bed and breakfast in my home town -- one year we did not have a camper trailer. One of our breakfast companions was there to purchase land, and being curious, I asked "WHY?" His answer "Nova Scotia is the only home I know!" This perplexed me as he was a German citizen - at the time. However, he had about six businesses and wanted to bring some of them to my home town. Land was evidently unavailable for sale in Germany so he felt he would feel comfortable in my home town. He told me he was a POW -- which I hastily corrected to "former POW", but he did not know where he was captured. I asked for a description, which he gave -- he had been captured at Sydney, Nova Scotia, as a member of a U-Boat crew. He remembered the newspaper office where I was working -- and one young female (me) waving and smiling at him -- he looked like my brother. The young fellow celebrated his 15th birthday on the prison train which had come to Sydney from Halifax, as boys, age 14, went into U-boat service. He is a proud Canadian - told me he had his fireworks ready for July 1st. I jokingly asked him if he would be wearing his beloved Mi'kMaq mocassins - a habit gained from my brother. Just a tid-bit from my past!!! Happy Canada Day -- and I remember when we called it Dominion Day! Muriel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/04

    06/30/2004 04:43:36
    1. OFF TOPIC -- CPAC Highlights - June 30-July 1
    2. Muriel M. Davidson
    3. To all -- Many likely receive these CPAC memos -- but I am forwarding these as they seem very special, both the commemorative ceremonies held in Normandy and a view of the Yukon. Happy Canada Day!! Muriel ==== Today's national agenda, tonight on CPAC WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30 8pm ET: CPAC SPECIAL Commemorative ceremonies held in Normandy (June 5 & 6) and Ottawa (June 6) marking the 60th Anniversary of D-Day and the Battle of Normandy. Rebroadcast: July 1 at 6am ET, 12pm ET, 8pm ET 9:30pm ET: THE GREAT CANADIAN TOUR Join Glen McInnis as he visits the Yukon. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/25/04

    06/30/2004 10:59:02
    1. Post 1901 Census -- Beatty v AG Canada et al
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. The judgement of the Federal Court that we have been waiting for was received by Lois Sparling today. I regret to advise that our application was dismissed without costs. This is bad news. We had felt that if judgement were made solely on the letter of the law that we could not fail. It would appear that it does not pay to be too optimistic, or to put too much faith in what others (i.e. Judges) will do. I have not yet seen a copy of the judgement so cannot say what the reasons for dismissal were. Lois is considering the advisability of launching an appeal. There are a number of things to consider regarding an appeal. * -- is it worth the effort to appeal when a legal action by the Informaition Commissioner, should he so proceed with one as a result of our complaints to him, may have a better chance of success? * -- should we appeal is there a danger that a Federal Court of Appeal decision might jeopardize any case presented by the Information Commissioner? These things will take some time for consideration. Lois feels that the Information Commissioner will not soon be commencing an Action to compel the release of the 1911 census any time soon. However, the decision of the Information Commissioner regarding our complaints against Statistics Canada is expected shortly. When I last checked with Dan O'Donnell in the IC Commissioner's office he indicated our complaints were in the final stages required by the Access to Information Act. I will check with him once more on Wednesday morning. We sincerely hope the decision of the Information Commissioner regarding our complaints re: the 1911 Census will be similar to his decision on the 1906 Census. The dismissal of our legal action does not mean the end of our efforts. It is another pothole in our road to success. It simply means that we will have to redouble our efforts in other directions. We must continue to write our Parliamentarians -- and there are many new ones to write to. We must collect as many signatures on our new petitions as we can for presentation when Parliament resumes in the fall. We must take every step to make the public aware of the Census issue and seek their support in our goal of continued unrestricted public access of Historic Census records. If we want to regain the access that we seek we all must be prepared to work for it a little longer. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

    06/29/2004 03:11:27