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    1. [CCC]Fwd: New Canada census project!
    2. Lee Harvie
    3. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: FamilySearch <reply@mail.familysearch.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 09:01 Subject: New Canada census project! To: <harvie57@gmail.com> FamilySearch has partnered with the Libraries and Archives of Canada to launch a new indexing project for the 1926 Canada Prairie Provinces Census to help more people find their ancestors from Canada. To view this email as a web page, click here. <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__view.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D4baa32126771a421292cfa92cb486c6952179df5007cccf297c4d3d81d4b5740fbb09242df252b7f21dd5503d41712c3877e7afd79ae11730967dfe1f29e970056b991652f2b591752f7cb91a8e6a18a&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=EkZk8Qv2fjVq-c22le5S7dRTeqn4gODlLIpLZA9Nr1E&e=> FamilySearch has partnered with the Libraries and Archives of Canada to launch a new indexing project for the 1926 Canada Prairie Provinces Census to help more people find their ancestors from Canada. We invite you to participate and help make these local records searchable! Learn More <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D7c349fb179f39305667377baa6d0c7ff504f000fb60e1bc035ba8587deff2d9afabb126902f1027ca9be1210f36d26cafac1eddb66ce0abd&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=i6e9f7Ki07z0hmdkO5aX10CrSwpH8xRHuPeLQt3_gd4&e=> . <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_profile-5Fcenter.aspx-3Fqs-3Dd5ff07bd2f249aaf89b9ddb7d743385018c3d2835940c0e652e2016344fb8f27019de291cdf534f998c31012743b03ab6caba0891f0bff4c354671c641c09653&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=OG96VKGIe9hZqSEl8MkaG3Z2Fjy6AYQSeGxXVgrv3Eo&e=> ------------------------------ This email was sent by: FamilySearch A service provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You are receiving this email because you created a FamilySearch Account or used a FamilySearch tool or service. © 2018 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. 50 E. North Temple Street Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 United States FamilySearch Rights and Use Information <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D7c349fb179f39305c6801cf7ff0f73188feced1c0672c4f10be64c64e4e385ba8bc015a18adbef5738e61f039ccef41e263088cf75eb6f3c&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=IvM8Ek1xw4oIeyXXpgKhISxDFBy45eVoc6zB0fLvzbo&e=> (Updated 2/3/2015) | Privacy Policy <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D7c349fb179f39305f0625382c3214ef3d4e799d58730c955fb0cdb4fbd1f79e27adfb119195703d597cd5ad6b033127193af3127b486a241&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=8vqagMEA2i1qPPPzXvj_7cXXk6UAEcWOsHmLrTXGMuY&e=> (Updated 3/18/2014) Update Profile <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D7c349fb179f39305e2d8cecf4b9c35da68119033244cb4673a7c73a711919215504adf090280aff886646ea0e8452e8781fd820bc5ab8c96&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=lH6-GIMtQ9TXty2M5_RtaIYkfXqrvhg4gS25hQ85G2I&e=> | Unsubscribe <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D7c349fb179f393057b280c6007bfd5ba5d96d8fffb8a042218c15656d50945c50cdb8339584400741a3f90e767ff563d3411018734968370&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=lubTndydZ-V1mZQOsPLaWwYRpV2ElzN17T1GrmN3_so&e=> | Preferences <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__click.mail.familysearch.org_-3Fqs-3D7c349fb179f39305fff4dc2ad1821551419bc6aba03426d133536f7599001267cf6dff2b3ccb4c358606834641f4f74d2b951948b40e73bd&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=J7z1_Kk2m-MlzyFi7LX2O_WRIfmyY9p7mlF9UKyApMrGr1_7G9RDlYIajXs7D20e&m=wX0p49MDu8iYPfcT1VXGx1bn0hwwlMUEGn3CU0GChgw&s=8xSdgSCuWdNKP-8M2MCuOE3smLr7kz0lAbcJKKgmADM&e=>

    09/29/2018 07:30:40
    1. [CCC] CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1
    2. Glenn Gardiner
    3. Dear Gordon, A new year and new enlightenment. I want to thank you and Muriel for your perseverance and dogged persistence in this battle. Thanks to your efforts Canadians will now have unfettered access to information we should have been privy to all along. And thanks to the other individuals, of who I am sure there are many, whose efforts made this possible. Thanks from a Canadian doing genealogy research. This will advance my research significantly. Sincerely, Glenn > On Jan 4, 2018, at 3:09 PM, canada-census-campaign-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Send CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN mailing list submissions to > canada-census-campaign@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/canada-census-campaign > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > canada-census-campaign-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > canada-census-campaign-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. The Census War is now over!! (Gordon A. Watts) > 2. Re: The Census War is now over!! (Beverley Sumpter) > 3. Re: The Census War is now over!! (Don Tate) > > From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> > Subject: [CCC] The Census War is now over!! > Date: January 4, 2018 at 1:40:12 PM EST > To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> > > > On 12 December 2017 the Parliament of Canada passed legislation amending the > Statistics Act to remove any restrictions on access to the historical census > after 92 years for the 2021 Census and beyond. (Statutes of Canada 2017. > Chapter 31. section 18.1(1)) As one of the leaders of a lengthy campaign to > regain the public access to Post 1901 Census records, 92 years after > collection, that were then being withheld by Statistics Canada, this is > welcome news. No longer will respondents to Canada's Census be required to > give permission (as was the case for Censuses of 2006, 2011 and 2016) for > their information to be released 92 years in the future. My thanks to John D > Reid on his Canada's Anglo-Celtic Connections blog for posting a reprint of > Ian E. Wilson (former Librarian and Archivist of Canada) [Arcan-l] post > titled "The Census War is now over!" A long time coming, but welcome news > indeed! > > > > Gordon A. Watts > > Former Co-chair > > Canada Census Committee > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > > From: Beverley Sumpter <bsump0103@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [CCC] The Census War is now over!! > Date: January 4, 2018 at 2:19:47 PM EST > To: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> > Cc: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> > > > Thank you, Gordon...this welcome news...I remember well the same fight being waged by Muriel Davidson over the 1911 census and would it ever be released. She is probably smiling down and savor ring this new victory. > > Best for continued success in 2018. > > Bev Sumpter > > > "Clouds come floating into my life, no longer to carry rain or usher storm, but to add color to my sunset sky." > --Rabindranath Tagore > > > > > > > > >> On Jan 4, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Gordon A. Watts <gordon_watts@telus.net> wrote: >> >> On 12 December 2017 the Parliament of Canada passed legislation amending the >> Statistics Act to remove any restrictions on access to the historical census >> after 92 years for the 2021 Census and beyond. (Statutes of Canada 2017. >> Chapter 31. section 18.1(1)) As one of the leaders of a lengthy campaign to >> regain the public access to Post 1901 Census records, 92 years after >> collection, that were then being withheld by Statistics Canada, this is >> welcome news. No longer will respondents to Canada's Census be required to >> give permission (as was the case for Censuses of 2006, 2011 and 2016) for >> their information to be released 92 years in the future. My thanks to John D >> Reid on his Canada's Anglo-Celtic Connections blog for posting a reprint of >> Ian E. Wilson (former Librarian and Archivist of Canada) [Arcan-l] post >> titled "The Census War is now over!" A long time coming, but welcome news >> indeed! >> >> >> >> Gordon A. Watts >> >> Former Co-chair >> >> Canada Census Committee >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > From: Don Tate <dtate03@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [CCC] The Census War is now over!! > Date: January 4, 2018 at 3:09:08 PM EST > To: "'Gordon A. Watts'" <gordon_watts@telus.net>, <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> > > > Gordon > > Thanks for the information. I can still remember the amount of effort you > and Muriel put into getting census information released from Statistics > Canada. > > Again, thanks for the update. > > Don Tate > Director > Newfoundland's Grand Banks Genealogy Site. > http://ngb.chebucto.org/ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN > [mailto:canada-census-campaign-bounces+dtate03=cfl.rr.com@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Gordon A. Watts > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 1:40 PM > To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CCC] The Census War is now over!! > > On 12 December 2017 the Parliament of Canada passed legislation amending the > Statistics Act to remove any restrictions on access to the historical census > after 92 years for the 2021 Census and beyond. (Statutes of Canada 2017. > Chapter 31. section 18.1(1)) As one of the leaders of a lengthy campaign to > regain the public access to Post 1901 Census records, 92 years after > collection, that were then being withheld by Statistics Canada, this is > welcome news. No longer will respondents to Canada's Census be required to > give permission (as was the case for Censuses of 2006, 2011 and 2016) for > their information to be released 92 years in the future. My thanks to John D > Reid on his Canada's Anglo-Celtic Connections blog for posting a reprint of > Ian E. Wilson (former Librarian and Archivist of Canada) [Arcan-l] post > titled "The Census War is now over!" A long time coming, but welcome news > indeed! > > > > Gordon A. Watts > > Former Co-chair > > Canada Census Committee > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > To contact the CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list administrator, send an email to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN mailing list, send an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ The threat to cancel Mac Office 97 is certainly the strongest bargaining point that we have, as doing so will do a greater deal of harm to Apple immediately. – e-mail from Microsoft's Ben Waldman to Bill Gates, 1997

    01/04/2018 01:43:11
    1. [CCC] Gordon Watts Reports -- new issue online
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings all. I hope everyone had a safe and happy Easter weekend. FYI. The latest issue of Gordon Watts Reports is now online and accessible at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0129.htm Topics in this issue include: * Census Day -- 10 May 2011 * Have we lost interest? * Death Pennies Have a great day! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm

    04/26/2011 09:26:29
    1. [CCC] New issue of 'Gordon Watts Reports' now online
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All FYI. The latest issue of 'Gordon Watts Reports' is now online and accessible at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0127.htm Topics in this column include: * Long-form Census * Second Court action taken on long-form Census * Merry Christmas May I take this time to wish each of you the Very Merriest Christmas, and a Fantastic New Year! If you are travelling during this festive time of year, please be careful. Take a little extra time to ensure you arrive, and return home, safely. Have a great day!! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm

    12/16/2010 06:48:21
    1. [CCC] Gordon Watts Reports - New column online
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. FYI, the next issue of Gordon Watts Reports is now online at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0126.htm Topics in this issue include * Lest We Forget * INDU Committee meets again - Canadian Census * Other Census collection methods? * Opposition Motion on long-form questionnaire rejected by PM * Two Private Member Bills introduced on long-form Census and appointment of Chief Statistician * Archived video about 1961 Census Have a great day! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia

    11/02/2010 07:55:49
    1. Re: [CCC] CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 16
    2. Catt
    3. Autocracy is in Power. Thu 30/09/10 3:00 AM , canada-census-campaign-request@rootsweb.com sent: > Today's Topics: > 1. Vote on long-form Census passes, but is ignored (Gordon A. > Watts) > To contact the CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN list administrator, send an > email to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-admin@rootsweb.com [1]. > To post a message to the CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN mailing list, send > an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com [2]. > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com [3] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > http://webmail.primus.ca/javascript:top.opencompose(\'CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIG > N-admin@rootsweb.com\',\'\',\'\',\'\')[2] > http://webmail.primus.ca/javascript:top.opencompose(\'CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIG > N@rootsweb.com\',\'\',\'\',\'\')[3] > http://webmail.primus.ca/javascript:top.opencompose(\'CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIG > N-request@rootsweb.com\',\'\',\'\',\'\') >

    09/30/2010 06:20:50
    1. [CCC] Vote on long-form Census passes, but is ignored
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. Following debate yesterday, and a recorded vote this afternoon, The House of Commons passed the following motion regarding removal of the long-form Census by the federal government. "That the House calls on the Government of Canada to reinstate immediately the long-form census; and given that no person has ever been imprisoned for not completing the census, the House further calls on the government to introduce legislative amendments to the Statistics Act to remove completely the provision of imprisonment from Section 31 of the Act in relation to the Long-form Census, the Census of Population and the Census of Agriculture." The motion passed with a vote of 152 to 141. Unfortunately even before the vote, Prime Minister Harper and Industry Minister Clement had stated that the government would not abide by the wishes of the House and would not reinstate the long-form questionnaire to the Census. In debate, government members consistently accused suppporters of the compulsory long-form Census as being in favour of imposing fines and imprisonment upon those not responding to the Census. This, even though all parties have agreed that the Statistics Act should be amended to remove those penalties from the act. Government sources ignore the fact that removing the compulsory aspect of the long-form questionnaire leaves the penalties in effect for the short-form Census, the Census of Agriculture, and the Labour Force Survey. So much for government bowing to the will of the people. Have a great day!

    09/29/2010 11:37:08
    1. Re: [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. Lee Harvie
    3. Dear listers: I happened to be passing through the airport in Detroit, Michigan recently and noticed this commentary in their local paper. http://www.freep.com/article/20100831/OPINION05/8310320/Republican-campaign-to-limit-census-data-is-shortsighted It appears that our beloved leader is closely following the GOP playbook. L. Harvie Halifax, Nova Scotia PS Some may also be interested in this letter from former senior civil servants as reported in the "Globe and Mail" on the 10th of September. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/let-top-statistician-resolve-census-issue-former-civil-servants-urge-pm/article1703274/ Posted: Aug. 31, 2010 LOCAL COMMENT Republican campaign to limit census data is shortsighted BY KURT METZGER There is only one way for the federal government to plan for the future demands on the Social Security system, the National School Lunch Program and the Low Income Energy Assistance Program. There's only one way for businesses to understand their customer bases and plan for growth. There's only one way for the Department of Education to allocate grants to support local schools. That way is paved with reliable demographic information. That's the value of the annual American Community Survey, a detailed questionnaire that is conducted annually by the Census Bureau. The ACS has replaced what used to be the long version of the census form, and it collects data on everything from household income to education levels, race and mortgage debt. But recently, the Republican National Committee passed a resolution condemning the ACS, calling it "a dangerous invasion of privacy" and "overreaching and intimidating," while accusing the Census Bureau of behaving "exactly as a scam artist would, asking very personal questions." The party is demanding that the bureau either scrap the survey or make participation voluntary. Invoking the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches, the party is endorsing legislation that would limit the scope of the census questionnaire. I'm perplexed by the attack, particularly in light of the fact that all data collected are aggregated so that no single person's information is ever shared publicly. There is no evidence that the information has been misused or that any one's privacy has been violated. At the same time, the information makes it possible for businesses to identify demographic and market trends at a local level. Without the data, it will be much more difficult for cities like Detroit to demonstrate a growing market to retailers outside the region. Due to pressure from the political right, the bureau used a shortened questionnaire during the 2010 Census, along with the catchy slogan, "10 Questions, 10 Minutes." The streamlined form may be one reason for the surprisingly strong census participation this year. In December, we should start receiving state population counts and find out which states will gain or lose congressional seats. By April 1 we will receive population counts for every block in the country, and the process of redistricting will begin at the federal, state and local levels. But because of the shortened form, the demographic information will be limited to age, gender, race/ethnicity, household structure and housing tenure. The rest of America's "statistical portrait" will have to be filled in by the ACS. Better decisions require better information -- that's the mantra of Data Driven Detroit, the foundation-supported nonprofit that I founded in 2009. When everyone has access to the same complete, reliable information, everyone wins. The only way we can hold our government accountable to our needs is by being counted, and sharing the most comprehensive data about who we are. Only then will we be able to make decisions that lift all of our boats together. KURT METZGER is director of Data Driven Detroit, a nonpartisan nonprofit that gathers and analyzes data about the greater Detroit metropolitan area.

    09/15/2010 05:32:02
    1. [CCC] INDU meeting on long-form Census questionnaire
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. Contrary to my expectations, the INDU Committee meeting held today on the issue of the mandatory long-form Census questionnaire was not broadcast by CPAC. (This proves the old adage about what happens when one 'assumes' something) It was however, broadcast on the government ParlVu website as expected. Unfortunately, the bandwidth available to me in the RV park in which I am staying was insufficient to allow my viewing the proceedings. On contacting the people at CPAC I was advised that the proceedings of the meeting will be televised on CPAC, starting at 1:30 pm Ottawa time, Sunday, 29 August 2010. CPAC further advised the following: "MPs are continuing to study a plan to change Canada's long-form census. Several witnesses are appearing to discuss the controversial proposal, which would make the long form voluntary but sent to more homes. The first panel features Mel Cappe, president of the Institute for Research in Public Policy, Ian McKinnon, chair of the National Statistics Council, Joseph Lam, vice-president of the Canada First Community Organization, James Turk and Michael Ornstein from the Canadian Association of University Teachers, Clément Chartier, president of the Métis National Council, and farmer James Henderson." Gordon A. Watts Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC Permission to forward without notice is granted.

    08/27/2010 07:30:11
    1. [CCC] INDU Committee meeting on long-form census
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. FYI. The Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology will be meeting once again on the issue of the removal of the mandatory long form from Canada's Census of Population. The meeting is scheduled for Friday, 27 August 2010 from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm Ottawa time. Panel members have yet to be announced. The meeting is to be televised and should be available on your local CPAC television channel, as well as on the Parliamentary Webcast (ParlVu) at http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/ParlVu/ContentEntityDetailView.aspx?ContentEntityId=6470 Gordon A. Watts Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC Permission to forward without notice is granted.

    08/24/2010 11:42:27
    1. Re: [CCC] Meeting of Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology
    2. Lois Sparling
    3. I hope one or more of the listers will watch and provide us with summaries and commentary on what everyone has to say for those of us who cannot watch the live broadcast. Lois from Calgary On 23/07/2010 3:31 PM, Gordon A. Watts wrote: > Greetings All. > > The list of witnesses to appear before the Standing Committee on Industry, > Science and Technology meeing convened to deal with removal of the long-form > Census questionnaire has now been posted at > > http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=4647310&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=40&Ses=3 > > If this link does not work by clicking on it, make sure that the entire URL > (both lines shown here) is in the address bar. > > The meeting is to start at 9:00 AM (Ottawa time) Tuesday 27 July 2010. It > has been allotted 7 hours and 30 minutes. > > Indications are that the proceeding will be televised. The webcast can be > accessed at > > http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/ParlVu/UpcomingEvents.aspx?lang=en > > Click on the link for "INDU Meeting No. 29" > > Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net > Co-chair, Canada Census Committee > Port Coquitlam, British Columbia > > Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at > http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm > > Permission to forward without notice is granted. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    07/23/2010 02:41:33
    1. [CCC] Meeting of Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All. The list of witnesses to appear before the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology meeing convened to deal with removal of the long-form Census questionnaire has now been posted at http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=4647310&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=40&Ses=3 If this link does not work by clicking on it, make sure that the entire URL (both lines shown here) is in the address bar. The meeting is to start at 9:00 AM (Ottawa time) Tuesday 27 July 2010. It has been allotted 7 hours and 30 minutes. Indications are that the proceeding will be televised. The webcast can be accessed at http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/ParlVu/UpcomingEvents.aspx?lang=en Click on the link for "INDU Meeting No. 29" Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted.

    07/23/2010 08:31:56
    1. Re: [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. Lee Harvie
    3. Dear Lois: It is indeed interesting that there has been so much media interest and if I may say it is wonderful to "hear" from you again. I read the article and commentary in the G&M this morning but I was unaware of the on-line poll until reading the attachment to your post. The number of respondents stands at 12,847 or 81% in favour of a review and 3068 or 19% against at the present time, 11 pm ADT. And while we all disagreed with Ivan Felegi's interpretation of the legality around release of the 1901 and subsequent census, I never doubted his integrity or or ability, especially after reading the story of his life and escape from Hungary. Kindest regards, LHH On 22 July 2010 22:16, Lois Sparling <lsparling@shaw.ca> wrote: > Greetings, > > Yes, I have been in court lately. Court is what I do. Not so much > Federal Court except for us census fanatics. > > Massive interest in the media this time round! It feels odd to be on > the same side as Dr. Felegi. Kudos for the "new" Chief Statistician for > quitting, abandoning that pension most people value so highly. Of > course, it was those same strong beliefs at Stats Can which gave us so > much grief over the release of the historic census. > > Lois > > On 22/07/2010 10:24 AM, freda stewart wrote: > > Hi all - there is an excellent article in G&M this morning over the > > resignation of the Head of Stats Canada. There is also a poll question > > relating to a 'yes' or 'no' do we think the Government should rethink > this > > issue. When I voted yes it was 57 - 19 for yes -so people, get on it. > Yes, I > > too do miss Muriel, she will be turning over with great gusto. > > Freda Stewart-Calgary > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glenn Gardiner"<glenng6@erols.com> > > To:<CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:41 PM > > Subject: [CCC] Census Long Form > > > > > > Gordon, > > > > Thank you for sending the link for the petition. I, also, am not sure > where > > this is going to go, but what about a referendum to find out exactly how > > many people are willing to sacrifice their heritage and ancestry > information > > for a little privacy, after 95 years. Why let the Harper government, who > may > > be in office only a few years, screw up Canadian history for generations? > > The Harper government should not have the final word on the subject. > > > > Hey Lois, I was just wondering, been in court lately? > > > > Thinking of you, Muriel! > > > > Glenn > > >

    07/22/2010 05:40:15
    1. Re: [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. Lois Sparling
    3. To clarify, Dr. Fellegi retired. His successor (whose name I forget at the moment) quit in a huff when the current government claimed that Statistics Canada recommended making the long form census voluntary. Lois On 22/07/2010 8:10 PM, Betty Mayfield wrote: > Lois, > > After digging a bit in Google I found that Toronto news story. > > "Ivan Fellegi told the Canadian Press > <http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/municipal-social-planners-caught-off-guard-by-census-slash-97514599.html> > that he would have quit if the government of the day had tried to axe > the long census form when he was serving as chief statistician of > Canada. In the case of my ex-colleague, that may be true. But Mr. > Fellegi made that statement three weeks ago. And the fact of the > matter is that his successor, Munir Sheikh, did not choose to resign > when the Harper government took the dumb decision to axe the long > census form against his recommendation. Nor did he resign when the > decision ­ and the depth of its stupidity ­ became a matter of public > discussion. He resigned yesterday." > > So does that mean that Fellegi resigned a long time ago, and that his > successor resigned yesterday? Because of public opposition, or some > other reason? The time references in the story are confusing. Of > course to people who have been following it day by day, it would be > clear. > > Betty Mayfield > Oregon > > At 06:16 PM 7/22/2010, Lois Sparling wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> Yes, I have been in court lately. Court is what I do. Not so much >> Federal Court except for us census fanatics. >> >> Massive interest in the media this time round! It feels odd to be on >> the same side as Dr. Felegi. Kudos for the "new" Chief Statistician for >> quitting, abandoning that pension most people value so highly. Of >> course, it was those same strong beliefs at Stats Can which gave us so >> much grief over the release of the historic census. >> >> Lois >> >> On 22/07/2010 10:24 AM, freda stewart wrote: >> > Hi all - there is an excellent article in G&M this morning over the >> > resignation of the Head of Stats Canada. There is also a poll question >> > relating to a 'yes' or 'no' do we think the Government should >> rethink this >> > issue. When I voted yes it was 57 - 19 for yes -so people, get on >> it. Yes, I >> > too do miss Muriel, she will be turning over with great gusto. >> > Freda Stewart-Calgary >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Glenn Gardiner"<glenng6@erols.com> >> > To:<CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:41 PM >> > Subject: [CCC] Census Long Form >> > >> > >> > Gordon, >> > >> > Thank you for sending the link for the petition. I, also, am not >> sure where >> > this is going to go, but what about a referendum to find out >> exactly how >> > many people are willing to sacrifice their heritage and ancestry >> information >> > for a little privacy, after 95 years. Why let the Harper >> government, who may >> > be in office only a few years, screw up Canadian history for >> generations? >> > The Harper government should not have the final word on the subject. >> > >> > Hey Lois, I was just wondering, been in court lately? >> > >> > Thinking of you, Muriel! >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ >> > Who cares if 30,000 programs are available for Windows, >> > if the five you want most are available only on the Mac? >> > ­David Pogue, 18 July 2002 >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> >> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3022 - Release Date: >> 07/22/10 11:36:00

    07/22/2010 02:16:49
    1. Re: [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. Lois Sparling
    3. Greetings, Yes, I have been in court lately. Court is what I do. Not so much Federal Court except for us census fanatics. Massive interest in the media this time round! It feels odd to be on the same side as Dr. Felegi. Kudos for the "new" Chief Statistician for quitting, abandoning that pension most people value so highly. Of course, it was those same strong beliefs at Stats Can which gave us so much grief over the release of the historic census. Lois On 22/07/2010 10:24 AM, freda stewart wrote: > Hi all - there is an excellent article in G&M this morning over the > resignation of the Head of Stats Canada. There is also a poll question > relating to a 'yes' or 'no' do we think the Government should rethink this > issue. When I voted yes it was 57 - 19 for yes -so people, get on it. Yes, I > too do miss Muriel, she will be turning over with great gusto. > Freda Stewart-Calgary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Gardiner"<glenng6@erols.com> > To:<CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:41 PM > Subject: [CCC] Census Long Form > > > Gordon, > > Thank you for sending the link for the petition. I, also, am not sure where > this is going to go, but what about a referendum to find out exactly how > many people are willing to sacrifice their heritage and ancestry information > for a little privacy, after 95 years. Why let the Harper government, who may > be in office only a few years, screw up Canadian history for generations? > The Harper government should not have the final word on the subject. > > Hey Lois, I was just wondering, been in court lately? > > Thinking of you, Muriel! > > Glenn > > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > Who cares if 30,000 programs are available for Windows, > if the five you want most are available only on the Mac? > –David Pogue, 18 July 2002 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    07/22/2010 01:16:02
    1. Re: [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. Betty Mayfield
    3. Lois, After digging a bit in Google I found that Toronto news story. "Ivan Fellegi <http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/municipal-social-planners-caught-off-guard-by-census-slash-97514599.html>told the Canadian Press that he would have quit if the government of the day had tried to axe the long census form when he was serving as chief statistician of Canada. In the case of my ex-colleague, that may be true. But Mr. Fellegi made that statement three weeks ago. And the fact of the matter is that his successor, Munir Sheikh, did not choose to resign when the Harper government took the dumb decision to axe the long census form against his recommendation. Nor did he resign when the decision ­ and the depth of its stupidity ­ became a matter of public discussion. He resigned yesterday." So does that mean that Fellegi resigned a long time ago, and that his successor resigned yesterday? Because of public opposition, or some other reason? The time references in the story are confusing. Of course to people who have been following it day by day, it would be clear. Betty Mayfield Oregon At 06:16 PM 7/22/2010, Lois Sparling wrote: >Greetings, > >Yes, I have been in court lately. Court is what I do. Not so much >Federal Court except for us census fanatics. > >Massive interest in the media this time round! It feels odd to be on >the same side as Dr. Felegi. Kudos for the "new" Chief Statistician for >quitting, abandoning that pension most people value so highly. Of >course, it was those same strong beliefs at Stats Can which gave us so >much grief over the release of the historic census. > >Lois > >On 22/07/2010 10:24 AM, freda stewart wrote: > > Hi all - there is an excellent article in G&M this morning over the > > resignation of the Head of Stats Canada. There is also a poll question > > relating to a 'yes' or 'no' do we think the Government should rethink this > > issue. When I voted yes it was 57 - 19 for > yes -so people, get on it. Yes, I > > too do miss Muriel, she will be turning over with great gusto. > > Freda Stewart-Calgary > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glenn Gardiner"<glenng6@erols.com> > > To:<CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:41 PM > > Subject: [CCC] Census Long Form > > > > > > Gordon, > > > > Thank you for sending the link for the petition. I, also, am not sure where > > this is going to go, but what about a referendum to find out exactly how > > many people are willing to sacrifice their > heritage and ancestry information > > for a little privacy, after 95 years. Why let > the Harper government, who may > > be in office only a few years, screw up Canadian history for generations? > > The Harper government should not have the final word on the subject. > > > > Hey Lois, I was just wondering, been in court lately? > > > > Thinking of you, Muriel! > > > > Glenn > > > > > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > Who cares if 30,000 programs are available for Windows, > > if the five you want most are available only on the Mac? > > ­David Pogue, 18 July 2002 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to >CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3022 >- Release Date: 07/22/10 11:36:00

    07/22/2010 01:10:40
    1. Re: [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. freda stewart
    3. Hi all - there is an excellent article in G&M this morning over the resignation of the Head of Stats Canada. There is also a poll question relating to a 'yes' or 'no' do we think the Government should rethink this issue. When I voted yes it was 57 - 19 for yes -so people, get on it. Yes, I too do miss Muriel, she will be turning over with great gusto. Freda Stewart-Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Gardiner" <glenng6@erols.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: [CCC] Census Long Form Gordon, Thank you for sending the link for the petition. I, also, am not sure where this is going to go, but what about a referendum to find out exactly how many people are willing to sacrifice their heritage and ancestry information for a little privacy, after 95 years. Why let the Harper government, who may be in office only a few years, screw up Canadian history for generations? The Harper government should not have the final word on the subject. Hey Lois, I was just wondering, been in court lately? Thinking of you, Muriel! Glenn _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Who cares if 30,000 programs are available for Windows, if the five you want most are available only on the Mac? –David Pogue, 18 July 2002 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2010 04:24:02
    1. [CCC] Census Long Form
    2. Glenn Gardiner
    3. Gordon, Thank you for sending the link for the petition. I, also, am not sure where this is going to go, but what about a referendum to find out exactly how many people are willing to sacrifice their heritage and ancestry information for a little privacy, after 95 years. Why let the Harper government, who may be in office only a few years, screw up Canadian history for generations? The Harper government should not have the final word on the subject. Hey Lois, I was just wondering, been in court lately? Thinking of you, Muriel! Glenn _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Who cares if 30,000 programs are available for Windows, if the five you want most are available only on the Mac? –David Pogue, 18 July 2002

    07/21/2010 03:41:08
    1. [CCC] Letter to the editor
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Greetings All I copy below the text of a letter I sent to the Vancouver Sun and the Globe and Mail newspaper 14 July. The Globe printed a considerably abbreviated version on Saturday. The one to the Opinion page of the Vancvouver Sun has not appeared as yet. Have a great day. Gordon ********************************************* The arrogance of Industry Minister Tony Clement is difficult to comprehend! He destroys what is conceivably the greatest source of information for the history of Canada, without prior notice or consultation with the communities most affected, and then states "This has received the amount of publicity that it deserves for the issue that it is dealing with. I don't accept the fact that every time you make a change on every matter of government business, you have to shout it from every rooftop." Perhaps not, but he would be well advised to pay attention to the complaints of the people he is supposed to represent. To do otherwise might seal his doom in the next federal election. Mr. Clement's "consultation process" involved speaking to a few MPs who had an unknown handful of complaints regarding the "intrusiveness" of questions asked by Census. Apparently this handful of complaints vastly outweighs the hundreds of thousands of communications received by MPs and Senators, and the more than 75,000 signatures on petitions during our successful seven-year (1998 - 2005) campaign to regain public access, 92 years after collection, to the very information that he has now taken away from us. During that campaign, many MPs remarked that they had received more communications on this subject than on all other subjects combined. One MP alone reportedly received more than 38,000 communications regarding withholding of Post-1901 Census records from public access. I can guarantee that since 26 June 2010 there have been many more complaints about the removal of the long-form questionnaire than were ever received to prompt that move. I think it unlikely that any of the unspecified complaints cited by Mr. Clement have been received in the past three years. Canadians take pride in living in a "democracy", a political form of government where governing power is derived from the people - either through direct referendum, or through their elected representatives. In a democracy the people normally have a say in what happens, and that say is normally governed by "majority rule". Since the non-announcement 26 June 2010, through an Order in Council published in the Canada Gazette, that the government had eliminated the Census long-form questionnaire, media has reported numerous complaints. Those complaints originate from individual genealogists, historians, sociologist, archivists, economists, statisticians and demographers, as well as from business groups, community groups, municipal and provincial governments, The Canadian Economics Society of Canada, the Canadian Association of University Teachers, the Statistical Society of Canada, The Federation of Canadian Municipalities, the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, multiple newspaper editorial boards, and more. Complaints have even been recorded from a number of former, and present federal government sources. Mr. Clement has thumbed his nose at all of us. The timing of Mr. Clement has been impeccible. Even were the decision to eliminate the long-form schedule to be reversed today, it would be too late to restore it in time for the upcoming 2011 Census. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee 1455 Delia Drive Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 2V9

    07/20/2010 09:39:16
    1. [CCC] please forward re census petition
    2. Gordon A. Watts
    3. Not certain how much good this will do -- but it can't hurt. Gordon http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/keep-the-canadian-census-long-form.html

    07/19/2010 03:06:20