Spotted this site on the United Empire Loyalist list. Webmaster, Ernie Turner, is a Canadian, but a lot of New England names on it and noted a number of KIDDERS. Found some Whittiers and Sibleys so posting in case it is helpful to others. Certainly a well laid out site. Lauraine

Hi Lauraine, Did you mean to post a URL for a web site? I did just go to the archives for the UEL List, and found only one posting which mentioned a KIDDER. The lady making the query has been searching for years for the origins of her ancestor, Thomas KIDDER. The man who knows the most about the KIDDER's is George in FL, and he believes that Thomas came from Great Britain - and he was not a descendant of the patriarch, James KIDDER of 1600's MA Bay Colony. The majority of KIDDER's in the US are descended from James, but several KIDDER men did arrive in the 1700's or 1800's and had people descended from them. As far as "Loyalists" go, there was one in early "Maine." Richard KIDDER moved his family to "Maine" and had many children, but he "became quite a character" and "was too loyal for his own good," and he had to "escape" to Nova Scotia for a few years. And, my ancestor, Calvin KIDDER (1765-1799), did migrated to New Brunswick as a very young man, but he was never labeled as a Loyalist. Some have suggested he was following a girlfriend's family when he left his home. His older brother and his younger brother both fought hard in the Revolutionary War from New Hampshire, but there is no record of him fighting. His uncle, Reuben KIDDER, was a "sympathizer" and also a "character" in New Hampshire. But, he was also a business man in several businesses, and a surveyor, etc., and he seems to have been allowed to be a "sympathizer." Those are the only stories from the "KIDDER book" that I remember at this moment. OOPS. There is a lady in Canada who has a KIDDER ancestor, and he went up to Upper Canada (?) early on. She searched for many years to find out his origins. We haven't heard from her in a while, so I don't know if she ever got the answers to her questions. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. I just noticed there is a List for "Upper Canada." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauraine Syrnick" <[email protected]> To: "Cda US Immigration" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:07 AM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] KIDDER Spotted this site on the United Empire Loyalist list. Webmaster, Ernie Turner, is a Canadian, but a lot of New England names on it and noted a number of KIDDERS. Found some Whittiers and Sibleys so posting in case it is helpful to others. Certainly a well laid out site. Lauraine

Hmm - maybe I forgot to post the site - very possible. Here it is: http://renrutii.tribalpages.com/?userid=renrutii&x=11&y=8 It is not strictly a loyalist site, but some loyalist names on it and definitely quite a few New England surnames including several Kidders. Lauraine If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance." - George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] KIDDER > Hi Lauraine, > > Did you mean to post a URL for a web site? > > I did just go to the archives for the UEL List, and found only one posting > which mentioned a KIDDER. The lady making the query has been searching > for years for the origins of her ancestor, Thomas KIDDER. > > The man who knows the most about the KIDDER's is George in FL, and he > believes that Thomas came from Great Britain - and he was not a descendant > of the patriarch, James KIDDER of 1600's MA Bay Colony. > > The majority of KIDDER's in the US are descended from James, but several > KIDDER men did arrive in the 1700's or 1800's and had people descended > from > them. > > As far as "Loyalists" go, there was one in early "Maine." Richard > KIDDER > moved his family to "Maine" and had many children, but he "became quite a > character" and "was too loyal for his own good," and he had to "escape" to > Nova Scotia for a few years. > > And, my ancestor, Calvin KIDDER (1765-1799), did migrated to New Brunswick > as a very young man, but he was never labeled as a Loyalist. Some have > suggested he was following a girlfriend's family when he left his home. > His older brother and his younger brother both fought hard in the > Revolutionary War from New Hampshire, but there is no record of him > fighting. > > His uncle, Reuben KIDDER, was a "sympathizer" and also a "character" in > New > Hampshire. But, he was also a business man in several businesses, and a > surveyor, etc., and he seems to have been allowed to be a "sympathizer." > > Those are the only stories from the "KIDDER book" that I remember at this > moment. OOPS. There is a lady in Canada who has a KIDDER ancestor, > and > he went up to Upper Canada (?) early on. She searched for many years > to > find out his origins. We haven't heard from her in a while, so I don't > know if she ever got the answers to her questions. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > P.S. I just noticed there is a List for "Upper Canada." > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lauraine Syrnick" <[email protected]> > To: "Cda US Immigration" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:07 AM > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] KIDDER > > > Spotted this site on the United Empire Loyalist list. Webmaster, Ernie > Turner, is a Canadian, but a lot of New England names on it and noted a > number of KIDDERS. Found some Whittiers and Sibleys so posting in case it > is helpful to others. Certainly a well laid out site. > > Lauraine > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >