Hi Garth - your opinion please on the term 'Scotch Irish'. I've always understood that this is only used in the U.S., that the rest of us term ourselves Ulster Scots. Scotch still comes in a bottle. Freda Stewart-Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Hamilton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > Here is a link to Irish History segments on YouTube > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg5aBMYYz0 > > regards > Garth > > > At 01:00 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >>If you are interested in the settlement of Ulster by the Scots do >>some research on the Plantations of Ulster circa 1609. The first two >>were settled by Hamilton's and Montgomery's. There are several sites >>with this information but Wikapedia is probably the the place to >>start with the condensed version. The Ulster web site also has a >>great deal of information also. >> >>Google "Ulster Plantations" there is lots there. >> >>regards >>Garth >> >> >>At 12:46 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >> >There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged >> >by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who >> >in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible >> >for much of the westward expansion... >> >There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I >> >believe, that told the story.. >> >faye >> > >> >---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about >> > > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and >> > > early >> > > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused >> > > with >> > > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato >> > > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New >> > > York >> > > and Boston. >> > > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became >> > > known >> > > as "Scotch Irish" >> > > >> > > MomEl >> > > >> > > [email protected] wrote: >> > > > Faye: >> > > > >> > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and >> > Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots >> > Irish" came about. >> > > > >> > > > Lauraine >> > > > >> > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> >> > > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST >> > > >> To: [email protected] >> > > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people >> > lived in Ireland >> > > >> >> > > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some >> > of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have >> > settled there? >> > > >> >> > > >> faye >> > > >> >> > > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Hello, >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from >> > 1820's on were >> > > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from >> > Scotland. But they >> > > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one >> > of the books on >> > > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state >> > that they were >> > > >>> "Irishmen." >> > > >>> >> > > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block >> > wall." None of us >> > > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left >> > Sligo-Town and >> > > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each >> > year of research >> > > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and >> > HENDERSON families in >> > > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, >> > we have no way >> > > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming >> > patterns" don't >> > > >>> help.) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> List Administrator >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> FYI: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" >> > which is about the >> > > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to >> > celebrate their KERR >> > > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to >> > > >>> their >> > > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always >> > INSISTED that >> > > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland >> > Games," etc. >> > > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding >> > > >>> some >> > > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings >> > and cousins >> > > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's >> > in Ireland. >> > > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name >> > for us. My >> > > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and >> > > >>> Elizabeth >> > > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they >> came down to >> > > >>> Boston, MA. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name >> > > >>> is >> > > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my >> > gr-grandparents, William >> > > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the >> > HANNAH grave - >> > > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My >> > sister tells me it >> > > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I >> > will find a way >> > > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in >> > Everett, so I don't >> > > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on >> > this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- >> > remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding >> > to !! 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Sorry Freda The different spelling/pronunciation never entered my brain.. Scots vs Scotch - I hope I didn't offend... I had always thought it was Scotch as being from Scotland, but I realize that is Scottish.. I have learned again from you on this list.. faye -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of freda stewart Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland Hi Garth - your opinion please on the term 'Scotch Irish'. I've always understood that this is only used in the U.S., that the rest of us term ourselves Ulster Scots. Scotch still comes in a bottle. Freda Stewart-Calgary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Hamilton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > Here is a link to Irish History segments on YouTube > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg5aBMYYz0 > > regards > Garth > > > At 01:00 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >>If you are interested in the settlement of Ulster by the Scots do >>some research on the Plantations of Ulster circa 1609. The first two >>were settled by Hamilton's and Montgomery's. There are several sites >>with this information but Wikapedia is probably the the place to >>start with the condensed version. The Ulster web site also has a >>great deal of information also. >> >>Google "Ulster Plantations" there is lots there. >> >>regards >>Garth >> >> >>At 12:46 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >> >There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged >> >by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who >> >in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible >> >for much of the westward expansion... >> >There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I >> >believe, that told the story.. >> >faye >> > >> >---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about >> > > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and >> > > early >> > > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused >> > > with >> > > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato >> > > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New >> > > York >> > > and Boston. >> > > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became >> > > known >> > > as "Scotch Irish" >> > > >> > > MomEl >> > > >> > > [email protected] wrote: >> > > > Faye: >> > > > >> > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and >> > Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots >> > Irish" came about. >> > > > >> > > > Lauraine >> > > > >> > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> >> > > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST >> > > >> To: [email protected] >> > > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people >> > lived in Ireland >> > > >> >> > > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some >> > of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have >> > settled there? >> > > >> >> > > >> faye >> > > >> >> > > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Hello, >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from >> > 1820's on were >> > > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from >> > Scotland. But they >> > > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one >> > of the books on >> > > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state >> > that they were >> > > >>> "Irishmen." >> > > >>> >> > > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block >> > wall." None of us >> > > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left >> > Sligo-Town and >> > > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each >> > year of research >> > > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and >> > HENDERSON families in >> > > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, >> > we have no way >> > > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming >> > patterns" don't >> > > >>> help.) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> List Administrator >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> FYI: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" >> > which is about the >> > > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to >> > celebrate their KERR >> > > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to >> > > >>> their >> > > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always >> > INSISTED that >> > > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland >> > Games," etc. >> > > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding >> > > >>> some >> > > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings >> > and cousins >> > > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's >> > in Ireland. >> > > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name >> > for us. My >> > > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and >> > > >>> Elizabeth >> > > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they >> came down to >> > > >>> Boston, MA. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name >> > > >>> is >> > > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my >> > gr-grandparents, William >> > > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the >> > HANNAH grave - >> > > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My >> > sister tells me it >> > > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I >> > will find a way >> > > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in >> > Everett, so I don't >> > > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on >> > this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- >> > remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding >> > to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the >> > Subject. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> To search the archives: >> > > >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> > > >>> The information page is: >> > > >>> >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> ------------------------------- >> > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >>> >> > > >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this >> > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering >> > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to >> > !! 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Hi Freda This is what my research leads me to believe. The term Scotch Irish is made in America and is virtually unknown in Ireland, Scotland and the rest of the Commonwealth but as more North Americans go to Ireland searching their Ulster Scots roots it is now known to those working in the field of genealogy there. The term has wider meaning in America than the term Ulster Scots. Scotch Irish encompasses those who are of mixed heritage Scots and Irish heritage in addition to those of Protestant Scottish descent who migrated to Ulster in the 1600's and from Ireland to America in the 1800's to whom the term Ulster Scots refers and the mixing that has occurred in America away from the very strict Protestant Catholic separation of Ireland and in particular Ulster. The term Ulster Scots is used in Ireland and the United Kingdom to denote those of Protestant heritage from lowland Scotland and Northern England who came to Ireland in the Plantations of 1600-1675 and were imported by the English Crown to replace rebellious Irish Catholic Land Owners with those loyal to the Crown. The Catholics were stripped of their land and the government of the day handed to those arriving from Scotland. In some part this term and its history is kept alive by the Orange Order which so many joined after it's forming in County Armagh in 1795. This Protestant Fraternal Order was common here in the 1800's in Canada and while most of the first and second generation male members of my family were members, this tradition did not carry into generations 3 and was virtually non existent in my family in the 4th generation and is totally gone to-day, but the order is still alive and well in the Countries of the Commonwealth and USA. regards Garth At 11:02 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >Hi Garth - your opinion please on the term 'Scotch Irish'. I've always >understood that this is only used in the U.S., that the rest of us term >ourselves Ulster Scots. Scotch still comes in a bottle. >Freda Stewart-Calgary >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garth Hamilton" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM >Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > > > > Here is a link to Irish History segments on YouTube > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg5aBMYYz0 > > > > regards > > Garth > > > > > > At 01:00 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: > >>If you are interested in the settlement of Ulster by the Scots do > >>some research on the Plantations of Ulster circa 1609. The first two > >>were settled by Hamilton's and Montgomery's. There are several sites > >>with this information but Wikapedia is probably the the place to > >>start with the condensed version. The Ulster web site also has a > >>great deal of information also. > >> > >>Google "Ulster Plantations" there is lots there. > >> > >>regards > >>Garth > >> > >> > >>At 12:46 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: > >> >There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged > >> >by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who > >> >in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible > >> >for much of the westward expansion... > >> >There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I > >> >believe, that told the story.. > >> >faye > >> > > >> >---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about > >> > > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and > >> > > early > >> > > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused > >> > > with > >> > > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato > >> > > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New > >> > > York > >> > > and Boston. > >> > > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became > >> > > known > >> > > as "Scotch Irish" > >> > > > >> > > MomEl > >> > > > >> > > [email protected] wrote: > >> > > > Faye: > >> > > > > >> > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and > >> > Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots > >> > Irish" came about. > >> > > > > >> > > > Lauraine > >> > > > > >> > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> > >> > > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST > >> > > >> To: [email protected] > >> > > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> > >> > > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people > >> > lived in Ireland > >> > > >> > >> > > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some > >> > of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have > >> > settled there? > >> > > >> > >> > > >> faye > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Hello, > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from > >> > 1820's on were > >> > > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from > >> > Scotland. But they > >> > > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one > >> > of the books on > >> > > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state > >> > that they were > >> > > >>> "Irishmen." > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block > >> > wall." None of us > >> > > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left > >> > Sligo-Town and > >> > > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each > >> > year of research > >> > > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and > >> > HENDERSON families in > >> > > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, > >> > we have no way > >> > > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming > >> > patterns" don't > >> > > >>> help.) > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> List Administrator > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> FYI: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" > >> > which is about the > >> > > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to > >> > celebrate their KERR > >> > > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to > >> > > >>> their > >> > > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always > >> > INSISTED that > >> > > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland > >> > Games," etc. > >> > > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding > >> > > >>> some > >> > > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings > >> > and cousins > >> > > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's > >> > in Ireland. > >> > > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name > >> > for us. My > >> > > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and > >> > > >>> Elizabeth > >> > > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they > >> came down to > >> > > >>> Boston, MA. > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name > >> > > >>> is > >> > > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my > >> > gr-grandparents, William > >> > > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the > >> > HANNAH grave - > >> > > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My > >> > sister tells me it > >> > > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I > >> > will find a way > >> > > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in > >> > Everett, so I don't > >> > > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on > >> > this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- > >> > remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding > >> > to !! 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Hi all: My late husband, from Brechin, Angus, Scot. taught me many years ago that Scots was the man/race, and Scotch was the drink. I have not heard of any change since...... You marry a Scotsman & drink Scotch. You don't marry a Scotchman & drink Scots. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Hamilton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > > Hi Freda > > This is what my research leads me to believe. > > The term Scotch Irish is made in America and is virtually unknown in > Ireland, Scotland and the rest of the Commonwealth but as more North > Americans go to Ireland searching their Ulster Scots roots it is now > known to those working in the field of genealogy there. > > The term has wider meaning in America than the term Ulster Scots. > Scotch Irish encompasses those who are of mixed heritage Scots and > Irish heritage in addition to those of Protestant Scottish descent > who migrated to Ulster in the 1600's and from Ireland to America in > the 1800's to whom the term Ulster Scots refers and the mixing that > has occurred in America away from the very strict Protestant Catholic > separation of Ireland and in particular Ulster. > > The term Ulster Scots is used in Ireland and the United Kingdom to > denote those of Protestant heritage from lowland Scotland and > Northern England who came to Ireland in the Plantations of 1600-1675 > and were imported by the English Crown to replace rebellious Irish > Catholic Land Owners with those loyal to the Crown. The Catholics > were stripped of their land and the government of the day handed to > those arriving from Scotland. In some part this term and its history > is kept alive by the Orange Order which so many joined after it's > forming in County Armagh in 1795. This Protestant Fraternal Order was > common here in the 1800's in Canada and while most of the first and > second generation male members of my family were members, this > tradition did not carry into generations 3 and was virtually non > existent in my family in the 4th generation and is totally gone > to-day, but the order is still alive and well in the Countries of the > Commonwealth and USA. > > regards > Garth > > > > At 11:02 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >>Hi Garth - your opinion please on the term 'Scotch Irish'. I've always >>understood that this is only used in the U.S., that the rest of us term >>ourselves Ulster Scots. Scotch still comes in a bottle. >>Freda Stewart-Calgary >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Garth Hamilton" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM >>Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland >> >> >> > Here is a link to Irish History segments on YouTube >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg5aBMYYz0 >> > >> > regards >> > Garth >> > >> > >> > At 01:00 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >> >>If you are interested in the settlement of Ulster by the Scots do >> >>some research on the Plantations of Ulster circa 1609. The first two >> >>were settled by Hamilton's and Montgomery's. There are several sites >> >>with this information but Wikapedia is probably the the place to >> >>start with the condensed version. The Ulster web site also has a >> >>great deal of information also. >> >> >> >>Google "Ulster Plantations" there is lots there. >> >> >> >>regards >> >>Garth >> >> >> >> >> >>At 12:46 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >> >> >There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged >> >> >by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who >> >> >in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible >> >> >for much of the westward expansion... >> >> >There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I >> >> >believe, that told the story.. >> >> >faye >> >> > >> >> >---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came >> >> > > about >> >> > > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and >> >> > > early >> >> > > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused >> >> > > with >> >> > > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato >> >> > > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of >> >> > > New >> >> > > York >> >> > > and Boston. >> >> > > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became >> >> > > known >> >> > > as "Scotch Irish" >> >> > > >> >> > > MomEl >> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected] wrote: >> >> > > > Faye: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and >> >> > Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots >> >> > Irish" came about. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Lauraine >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST >> >> > > >> To: [email protected] >> >> > > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people >> >> > lived in Ireland >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some >> >> > of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have >> >> > settled there? >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> faye >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Hello, >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from >> >> > 1820's on were >> >> > > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from >> >> > Scotland. But they >> >> > > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one >> >> > of the books on >> >> > > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state >> >> > that they were >> >> > > >>> "Irishmen." >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block >> >> > wall." None of us >> >> > > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left >> >> > Sligo-Town and >> >> > > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each >> >> > year of research >> >> > > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and >> >> > HENDERSON families in >> >> > > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, >> >> > we have no way >> >> > > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming >> >> > patterns" don't >> >> > > >>> help.) >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> List Administrator >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> FYI: >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" >> >> > which is about the >> >> > > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to >> >> > celebrate their KERR >> >> > > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to >> >> > > >>> their >> >> > > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always >> >> > INSISTED that >> >> > > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland >> >> > Games," etc. >> >> > > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding >> >> > > >>> some >> >> > > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings >> >> > and cousins >> >> > > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's >> >> > in Ireland. >> >> > > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name >> >> > for us. My >> >> > > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and >> >> > > >>> Elizabeth >> >> > > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they >> >> came down to >> >> > > >>> Boston, MA. >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR >> >> > > >>> name >> >> > > >>> is >> >> > > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my >> >> > gr-grandparents, William >> >> > > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the >> >> > HANNAH grave - >> >> > > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My >> >> > sister tells me it >> >> > > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I >> >> > will find a way >> >> > > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in >> >> > Everett, so I don't >> >> > > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 >> >> > > >>> burials) >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on >> >> > this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- >> >> > remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding >> >> > to !! 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