Actually, the information about Ottawa doesn't confuse me. It makes sense. Our Washington, D. C. is not IN any state, but is a separate District, called Columbia. That's what the D.C. is for: District of Columbia. They have their own inner laws, so as to take care of the citizens who actually live there. But once you get out of the DC area, then you are in either Virginia or Maryland. They even have their own license plates for vehicles, although I've never seen one. My grandson and I, in Utah, decided to make a list of all the states, including DC, and try to check off the ones we would see here in little Layton, Utah. Amazingly enough, we saw all 50 states in about 6 months! The last one escaped us for a long time, Rhode Island, but one day, we were stuck in traffic, and there it was in front of us! We have given up on ever seeing a DC plate. I didn't think we'd ever see Hawaii, but there was one in a parking lot across from the little subdivision where we live. Our having an Air Force base here helped a lot, I'm sure. Thanks for all the help. With all the genealogy I've been doing, I have found that my ancestors may well have come from Europe, but almost all of them, at one time or another, were in Canada. And since I lived in Michigan for many, many years, and felt as though the border was more of a courtesy (as it was for so many years!), I feel as though Canada is much more than a neighbor. It's our other half. I have ancestors on both the Loyalist and Patriot sides, and one of my Loyalists was hung for his efforts. The rest of the Meddaughs went to Canada to survive, and from there, ended up in Michigan, at least some of them! And my German ancestors farmed in Cayuga for a while, then went to both Michigan and New York. I truly miss being able to see Canadian TV and listen to Canadian radio. We were close enough to get both in Alpena, Michigan. I know that most of my friends there think of Canada as their cousin country. Hopefully, those feelings are shared. Thanks again for your assistance, and education! Now, for the searching!!! myra herron Gordon Booth <[email protected]> wrote: As the capital of Canada Ottawa is similar to Washington DC. For more information about the workings of the city see the following website A more general description may be found at References to Gatineau in this Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia piece are the same as references to HULL. Gatineau is the name of the amalgamated cities of Aylmer, Hull, Gatineau, Buckingham and Masson-Angers. There is a link to this historical fact in the Wikipedia article. To further confuse you and to add precision to your question about the county in which Ottawa is located consult the Wikipedia article at which states that "The Regional Municipality of Ottawa-Carleton was a regional government area and census division in Ontario, Canada which existed from 1969 until 2001. It was created in 1969 from the former Carleton County plus Cumberland Township, previously part of Russell County." Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Myra Herron Sent: October 19, 2008 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATEDBACK&FORTH:Nazaire Mercier Thank you! Now, what county is Ottawa in? We have found a marriage that referenced the birth place as Ottawa, Canada, and I've found a Wikipedia reference to Hull that places it either very close or in what is now Ottawa. To reach a message board, I have to know the county. myra Richard Murray wrote: Myra, In Canada, provinces are the same as states in America. Provinces are divided into counties. Counties in Ontario and Quebec are divided into townships and/or municipalities. Some of the other provinces divide their counties into parishes, (eg; New Brunswick). So, if you see a reference in Canada, to township/municipality/parish, they equate to township in the U.S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Herron" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK&FORTH:Nazaire Mercier >I have a family member that lives in Alpena, and will beg her to go to >Oscoda and see what tromping the grounds does. The library on the old base >there has volunteers from Huron Shores there, who do great work. I kind of >do the on line work (better at it) and she does the footwork. But, finding >stuff in Canada is a little harder. I'm in Utah, so too far away to do >much. And she's like me, not sure which Hull to look at. We thought that >trying the message boards on rootsweb would be a good way to start, so >planned on that. However, determining the province is just a start. Then >you have to find the next step, which is where I'm stuck. I don't know >what you call the equivalent of American townships within counties. To me, >provinces are counties (although huge!) But the Canadian version of >townships is where I'm stuck right now. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. 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