I have a family member that lives in Alpena, and will beg her to go to Oscoda and see what tromping the grounds does. The library on the old base there has volunteers from Huron Shores there, who do great work. I kind of do the on line work (better at it) and she does the footwork. But, finding stuff in Canada is a little harder. I'm in Utah, so too far away to do much. And she's like me, not sure which Hull to look at. We thought that trying the message boards on rootsweb would be a good way to start, so planned on that. However, determining the province is just a start. Then you have to find the next step, which is where I'm stuck. I don't know what you call the equivalent of American townships within counties. To me, provinces are counties (although huge!) But the Canadian version of townships is where I'm stuck right now. Unfortunately, there is no one left alive to ask the questions of. And those in the family that have passed down the verbal stories have embellished some of them to the point where we can only go with things we see on line, or on paper. Facts, as they existed back then, are what we're searching for. But there is a missing brother, who drowned in AuSable area, at about age 10. When? Well, we don't know when or where he was actually born. Yet. I'm hoping that, sooner or later, the death information will be found, and then we will have his name, age, etc. At this point, Grandma Mary Brown (Nana Mary, or Mary Brown from the 1900 census in the AuSable area, living with her grandfather Murdock MacLean, and newly married mom, Sarah Bradshaw, etc.) only visited her granddaughter in AuSable when SHE had a baby, and then took a side trip, without her granddaughter!!!! and visited the gravesite of her drowned brother in the old AuSable cemetery. We know where that is, and it's pretty much destroyed and grown over, and there are NO records left, from the fires. That was in the 1960's, and Nana Mary is gone, her daughter is gone, and her granddaughter is now doing the searching. We've been to the cemetery (when I was still there), been to the sexton's office of the nearest cemetery (they knew that the records were gone) and have searched a little there. Then I moved. So, it got stuck for a while. Now, we're back doing the work. Ah, if families had just been a little less strange, and a little more solid!!! I think that, since the local churches have been there for a very long time, I may have the granddaughter do some investigation there. It's a small community, and that may well help some. Thanks for all the suggestions. We just need to concentrate, and focus. myra Nancy Keith <[email protected]> wrote: Well, that makes it more difficult then, doesn't it? Didn't know that RAOGK is down. I got so many requests when I was a volunteer that I had to quit, so now I take requests from Find-a-Grave. That keeps me plenty busy now! Way too bad about the fires. Sure complicates things. Have you checked with the state just in case yours are available there? When I contacted another state for my father's birth certificate, knowing that the courthouse records had all been destroyed in a fire and that they, too, had not been registered with the state, I found that they had an alternate birth certificate available, which I did get. It listed all the information that I needed, so - just possibly - other states do that, too. Alternatively, sometimes baptismal records, other church records, and school records are available. Couldn't hurt to check. Perhaps the County Clerk would have some suggestions for you. Again, happy hunting. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Herron" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK &FORTH:Nazaire Mercier > Yep, but are you aware that RAOGK is not working these days? Dunno why, > and don't know who to ask. But it's off line. BUT, Huron Shores Gen > Society does also do things for a small price. Their web site is: > http://www.usgwarchives.net/mi/iosco/3501hsgs.htm > > However, remember, fires destroyed many records in that area, during that > era. And many of them were never registered with the state. > > myra > > Nancy Keith wrote: > > Harriet and Myra - and everybody else > > It is (relatively) easy to get a birth certificate from Michigan, provided > 100 years have passed since the birth and you have the basic information: > > Name > Date of birth > Place (at least the county) of birth > (Parents' names would help, but are not absolutely essential) > > As long as the birth was more than 100 years ago, it shouldn't be a > problem. > Those records are available on film at the Library of Michigan plus from > each county courthouse. They also are available from the State of > Michigan, > but that tends to be quite a bit more expensive. > > You already know that Au Sable is in Iosco County. I Googled Iosco County > Michigan and came up with loads of information, including: > > Nancy J. Huebel > Iosco County Clerk > [email protected] > > Office Hours and Court Services: > Monday-Friday: 9:00 am-5:00 pm > Saturday and Sunday: Closed > > 422 W. Lake Street, P.O. Box 838 > Tawas City, MI 48764-0838 > > Phone: (989) 362-3497 > Fax: (989) 984-1012 > > > This office should be able to help you. > > Additionally, there is always RAOGK - Random Acts of Genealogical > Kindness. > > http://www.raogk.org/ > > You might be able to find a volunteer to do your legwork for you in Iosco > County or at the Library of Michigan. > > Happy hunting. > > Nancy When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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