OK, I'm confused. I thought there were TWO Hulls in Canada, one in Ontario. I googled Hull, Ontario, and got this: Chelmsford Founded in 1868, Chelmsford started out as an outpost on the Canadian Pacific Railway. Some say Chelmsford was named by one the Canadian Pacific Railway engineers, that was from the U.K. As with many communities in Northern Ontario, logging and fur trapping were the first industries. Having depleted the lumber in the early 1900s, Chelmsford turned to mining and agriculture to support the town's economy. Errington Mine and Nickel Offset mine were two of the largest mines in Chelmsford and both closed in the 1930s. Today, Chelmsford has no major industries and is mostly a residential community. Although there are still some farms producing mostly potatoes, small fruits and corn, it is mostly supported by the mining activities in the nearby communities of Onaping Falls and Copper Cliff. Postal delivery and telephone service in Chelmsford also includes the smaller neighbourhoods of Boninville, Hull and Larchwood. You can see why I'm confused. I also found: The site of Ottawa was explored in 1613 by Samuel de Champlain, who named the Rideau River and the Chaudière Falls, but permanent settlement was not established until the 19th century. In 1800 the lumber centre of Wrightsville (or Wright's Town, later Hull) was founded on the northern side of the Ottawa River, but the southern shore was not settled until 1826, when Bytown evolved around the headquarters of the Rideau Canal project. The town developed alongside Hull as a timber and fur-trading centre, and was renamed Ottawa on its incorporation in 1855. As capital of the United Provinces of Canada in 1858, its territory comprised parts of Québec and Ontario. On confederation in 1867, it retained its position, becoming capital of the Dominion of Canada. After the coming of the railway in 1870, it grew rapidly as a distribution centre for lumber to the expanding towns of southern Canada. Pulp and paper industries were established later to process trees unsuitable for sawn timber, using hydroelectricity generated on the Ottawa River. So, it looks as though, for a while, at least, there were 2 Hulls? Or am I hallucinating? OR, are these the same place? myra herron Olive Tree Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: On 18 Oct 2008 at 14:06, Myra Herron wrote: > I have a conundrum. There was a couple who moved from > AuSable, Iosco county, Michigan, USA to Hull, Canada (most > likely in Ontario), and back again. They had either 2 or 3 > children in Canada. > > What I DO have: > > James & Sarah Brown, the parents who moved to Hull, after > October 1882 (first child, Margaret, who was born in > Michigan), and before September 1886 (birth of their 2nd > child, Mary). They stayed there long enough to also have > Jennie, born Mary 1890, in Hull > Myra The first problem you have is that Hull is in Quebec, not Ontario. it is across the river (and the border) from Ottawa which is in Ontario. If they had children born in Ontario in this time frame, those birth registrations are available to the public. Ancestry.com has indexed them all and has the images too. You can also get them at the Ontario Archives or the Archives of Canada in Ottawa. If they had children born in Quebec, you will have to look up Quebec resources to see what is available in this time frame. I know that Vital records before 1900 (vital records being baptisms, marriages and burials) are the responsibility of the Quebec National Archives so you might start your search there if your couple really did have children in Hull (Quebec) See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and choose either Ontario or Quebec to get links to online data and to find out what is available. Good luck Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected] MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Judging by your google search, there must be 2 Hulls as Chelmsford is no where near what most people call Hull. Hull is located on the north side of the Ottawa River which is the boundary in that area between Ontario and Quebec. Hull is now part of what they call Gatineau. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Herron" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK & FORTH:John & Sarah Brown & family OK, I'm confused. I thought there were TWO Hulls in Canada, one in Ontario. I googled Hull, Ontario, and got this: Chelmsford Founded in 1868, Chelmsford started out as an outpost on the Canadian Pacific Railway. Some say Chelmsford was named by one the Canadian Pacific Railway engineers, that was from the U.K. As with many communities in Northern Ontario, logging and fur trapping were the first industries. Having depleted the lumber in the early 1900s, Chelmsford turned to mining and agriculture to support the town's economy. Errington Mine and Nickel Offset mine were two of the largest mines in Chelmsford and both closed in the 1930s. Today, Chelmsford has no major industries and is mostly a residential community. Although there are still some farms producing mostly potatoes, small fruits and corn, it is mostly supported by the mining activities in the nearby communities of Onaping Falls and Copper Cliff. Postal delivery and telephone service in Chelmsford also includes the smaller neighbourhoods of Boninville, Hull and Larchwood. You can see why I'm confused. I also found: The site of Ottawa was explored in 1613 by Samuel de Champlain, who named the Rideau River and the Chaudière Falls, but permanent settlement was not established until the 19th century. In 1800 the lumber centre of Wrightsville (or Wright's Town, later Hull) was founded on the northern side of the Ottawa River, but the southern shore was not settled until 1826, when Bytown evolved around the headquarters of the Rideau Canal project. The town developed alongside Hull as a timber and fur-trading centre, and was renamed Ottawa on its incorporation in 1855. As capital of the United Provinces of Canada in 1858, its territory comprised parts of Québec and Ontario. On confederation in 1867, it retained its position, becoming capital of the Dominion of Canada. After the coming of the railway in 1870, it grew rapidly as a distribution centre for lumber to the expanding towns of southern Canada. Pulp and paper industries were established later to process trees unsuitable for sawn timber, using hydroelectricity generated on the Ottawa River. So, it looks as though, for a while, at least, there were 2 Hulls? Or am I hallucinating? OR, are these the same place? myra herron Olive Tree Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: On 18 Oct 2008 at 14:06, Myra Herron wrote: > I have a conundrum. There was a couple who moved from > AuSable, Iosco county, Michigan, USA to Hull, Canada (most > likely in Ontario), and back again. They had either 2 or 3 > children in Canada. > > What I DO have: > > James & Sarah Brown, the parents who moved to Hull, after > October 1882 (first child, Margaret, who was born in > Michigan), and before September 1886 (birth of their 2nd > child, Mary). They stayed there long enough to also have > Jennie, born Mary 1890, in Hull > Myra The first problem you have is that Hull is in Quebec, not Ontario. it is across the river (and the border) from Ottawa which is in Ontario. If they had children born in Ontario in this time frame, those birth registrations are available to the public. Ancestry.com has indexed them all and has the images too. You can also get them at the Ontario Archives or the Archives of Canada in Ottawa. If they had children born in Quebec, you will have to look up Quebec resources to see what is available in this time frame. I know that Vital records before 1900 (vital records being baptisms, marriages and burials) are the responsibility of the Quebec National Archives so you might start your search there if your couple really did have children in Hull (Quebec) See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and choose either Ontario or Quebec to get links to online data and to find out what is available. Good luck Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected] MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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While many of us know of Hull Quebec across from Ottawa there are three others in the Canadian Place Names Database. 2 more in Quebec and one in Ontario. Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?EMABY?C> [] Map Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?EREAN?C> [] Map Hull Que. Geographical area Chelsea, Les Collines-de-l'Outaouais 031G12 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?EGRLX?C> [] Map Hull Ont. Unincorporated area Sudbury 041I11 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?FDHDG?C> [] Map when in doubt try this link http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php cheers Garth At 08:35 PM 10/18/2008, you wrote: >Judging by your google search, there must be 2 Hulls as Chelmsford is no >where near what most people call Hull. Hull is located on the north side of >the Ottawa River which is the boundary in that area between Ontario and >Quebec. Hull is now part of what they call Gatineau. >Peggy > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Myra Herron" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:58 PM >Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK & >FORTH:John & Sarah Brown & family > > > >OK, I'm confused. I thought there were TWO Hulls in Canada, one in Ontario. >I googled Hull, Ontario, and got this: > Chelmsford > Founded in 1868, Chelmsford started out as an outpost on the Canadian >Pacific Railway. Some say Chelmsford was named by one the Canadian Pacific >Railway engineers, that was from the U.K. As with many communities in >Northern Ontario, logging and fur trapping were the first industries. Having >depleted the lumber in the early 1900s, Chelmsford turned to mining and >agriculture to support the town's economy. Errington Mine and Nickel Offset >mine were two of the largest mines in Chelmsford and both closed in the >1930s. > Today, Chelmsford has no major industries and is mostly a residential >community. Although there are still some farms producing mostly potatoes, >small fruits and corn, it is mostly supported by the mining activities in >the nearby communities of Onaping Falls and Copper Cliff. > Postal delivery and telephone service in Chelmsford also includes the >smaller neighbourhoods of Boninville, Hull and Larchwood. > > You can see why I'm confused. > > I also found: > > The site of Ottawa was explored in 1613 by Samuel de Champlain, who named >the Rideau River and the Chaudière Falls, but permanent settlement was not >established until the 19th century. In 1800 the lumber centre of >Wrightsville (or Wright's Town, later Hull) was founded on the northern side >of the Ottawa River, but the southern shore was not settled until 1826, when >Bytown evolved around the headquarters of the Rideau Canal project. The town >developed alongside Hull as a timber and fur-trading centre, and was renamed >Ottawa on its incorporation in 1855. As capital of the United Provinces of >Canada in 1858, its territory comprised parts of Québec and Ontario. On >confederation in 1867, it retained its position, becoming capital of the >Dominion of Canada. After the coming of the railway in 1870, it grew rapidly >as a distribution centre for lumber to the expanding towns of southern >Canada. Pulp and paper industries were established later to process trees >unsuitable for sawn > timber, using hydroelectricity generated on the Ottawa River. > >So, it looks as though, for a while, at least, there were 2 Hulls? Or am I >hallucinating? OR, are these the same place? > > myra herron > > Olive Tree Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: > > >On 18 Oct 2008 at 14:06, Myra Herron wrote: > > > I have a conundrum. There was a couple who moved from > > AuSable, Iosco county, Michigan, USA to Hull, Canada (most > > likely in Ontario), and back again. They had either 2 or 3 > > children in Canada. > > > > What I DO have: > > > > James & Sarah Brown, the parents who moved to Hull, after > > October 1882 (first child, Margaret, who was born in > > Michigan), and before September 1886 (birth of their 2nd > > child, Mary). They stayed there long enough to also have > > Jennie, born Mary 1890, in Hull > > > >Myra > >The first problem you have is that Hull is in Quebec, not >Ontario. it is across the river (and the border) from >Ottawa which is in Ontario. > >If they had children born in Ontario in this time frame, >those birth registrations are available to the public. >Ancestry.com has indexed them all and has the images too. > >You can also get them at the Ontario Archives or the >Archives of Canada in Ottawa. > >If they had children born in Quebec, you will have to look >up Quebec resources to see what is available in this time >frame. I know that Vital records before 1900 (vital records >being baptisms, marriages and burials) are the >responsibility of the Quebec National Archives so you might >start your search there if your couple really did have >children in Hull (Quebec) > >See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and choose either >Ontario or Quebec to get links to online data and to find >out what is available. > >Good luck >Lorine > > >-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > >* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ >* Naturalization Records >http://naturalizationrecords.com/ >* Images of Ships Lists >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > >[email protected] or [email protected] > > > > > >MYRA HERRON > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, >liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, >which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a >turd by the clean end." unknown > 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. >Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' > > > > > __________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? 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Regarding the Hull located in Ottawa - Ottawa is now in Ontario and Hull is on the other side of the Rideau Canal and is Hull, Quebec. Joined by a bridge. The other Hull sounds like Northern Ontario and a different location, especially with Nickel mines. Regards, J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Herron" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK & FORTH:John & Sarah Brown & family OK, I'm confused. I thought there were TWO Hulls in Canada, one in Ontario. I googled Hull, Ontario, and got this: Chelmsford Founded in 1868, Chelmsford started out as an outpost on the Canadian Pacific Railway. Some say Chelmsford was named by one the Canadian Pacific Railway engineers, that was from the U.K. As with many communities in Northern Ontario, logging and fur trapping were the first industries. Having depleted the lumber in the early 1900s, Chelmsford turned to mining and agriculture to support the town's economy. Errington Mine and Nickel Offset mine were two of the largest mines in Chelmsford and both closed in the 1930s. Today, Chelmsford has no major industries and is mostly a residential community. Although there are still some farms producing mostly potatoes, small fruits and corn, it is mostly supported by the mining activities in the nearby communities of Onaping Falls and Copper Cliff. Postal delivery and telephone service in Chelmsford also includes the smaller neighbourhoods of Boninville, Hull and Larchwood. You can see why I'm confused. I also found: The site of Ottawa was explored in 1613 by Samuel de Champlain, who named the Rideau River and the Chaudière Falls, but permanent settlement was not established until the 19th century. In 1800 the lumber centre of Wrightsville (or Wright's Town, later Hull) was founded on the northern side of the Ottawa River, but the southern shore was not settled until 1826, when Bytown evolved around the headquarters of the Rideau Canal project. The town developed alongside Hull as a timber and fur-trading centre, and was renamed Ottawa on its incorporation in 1855. As capital of the United Provinces of Canada in 1858, its territory comprised parts of Québec and Ontario. On confederation in 1867, it retained its position, becoming capital of the Dominion of Canada. After the coming of the railway in 1870, it grew rapidly as a distribution centre for lumber to the expanding towns of southern Canada. Pulp and paper industries were established later to process trees unsuitable for sawn timber, using hydroelectricity generated on the Ottawa River. So, it looks as though, for a while, at least, there were 2 Hulls? Or am I hallucinating? OR, are these the same place? myra herron Olive Tree Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: On 18 Oct 2008 at 14:06, Myra Herron wrote: > I have a conundrum. There was a couple who moved from > AuSable, Iosco county, Michigan, USA to Hull, Canada (most > likely in Ontario), and back again. They had either 2 or 3 > children in Canada. > > What I DO have: > > James & Sarah Brown, the parents who moved to Hull, after > October 1882 (first child, Margaret, who was born in > Michigan), and before September 1886 (birth of their 2nd > child, Mary). They stayed there long enough to also have > Jennie, born Mary 1890, in Hull > Myra The first problem you have is that Hull is in Quebec, not Ontario. it is across the river (and the border) from Ottawa which is in Ontario. If they had children born in Ontario in this time frame, those birth registrations are available to the public. Ancestry.com has indexed them all and has the images too. You can also get them at the Ontario Archives or the Archives of Canada in Ottawa. If they had children born in Quebec, you will have to look up Quebec resources to see what is available in this time frame. I know that Vital records before 1900 (vital records being baptisms, marriages and burials) are the responsibility of the Quebec National Archives so you might start your search there if your couple really did have children in Hull (Quebec) See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and choose either Ontario or Quebec to get links to online data and to find out what is available. Good luck Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected] MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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