That's hilarious! But it's "catchy" enough so that it probably did attract attention and the ladies "fat cans" were brought in!!!! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D.C. Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:39 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. My dad used to tell us about a sign in the window of a store. The sign said, "Ladies, Bring your fat cans in here." He laughed every time. Donna -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Judy Bingham I remember the grease in the coffee cans. From: Elsie Pykonen <elpyk@ncats.net> Also remember we saved and strained all grease from frying, etc, stored in cans and sold to the butcher shop for 5 cents/pound.  I think the old grease was used for munitions. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I remember my siblings and I used to fight over who got to squeeze the bag, so my mother used to make us take turns. They would get really upset when it was my turn, because I wouldn't eat it. It was so awful tasting. I still won't eat it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. > It was always the job for the KID to squeeze those blessed bags to break > the > color button and then try to get it all mixed into the margarine > uniformly..... Thank Heaven, when they finally legalized coloring the > stuff!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Craig > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:31 PM > To: kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com; can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. > > At our house, we used the bacon grease for cooking and I think my dad > made lye soap out of it also. > > I also remember the first oleo I saw. It was white in color and came > in a plastic bag. There was a little button of food coloring in the > middle and me and my brother fought over who would mix the stuff. That > was fun, but it was the most awful stuff I had ever eaten. It felt as > if there was sand in it. That oleo made me vow to never buy anything > but butter once I grew up. and I never did. > > I was born during the second world war (1943) and we lived on a farm, > so I do not remember rationing, but my parents were frugal, as they > had also come through the depression with the 3 kids older than me. > > Marilyn Craig > > > On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:39 AM, D.C. wrote: > >> My dad used to tell us about a sign in the window of a store. The >> sign >> said, "Ladies, Bring your fat cans in here." He laughed every time. >> >> Donna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: On Behalf Of Judy Bingham >> I remember the grease in the coffee cans. >> >> From: Elsie Pykonen <elpyk@ncats.net> >> Also remember we saved and strained all grease from frying, etc, >> stored in >> cans and sold to the butcher shop for 5 cents/pound. I think the >> old grease >> was used for munitions. >> >> >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, >> I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to >> include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please >> make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kresge's turned into Kmart, I think...... only bigger now! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Les Cameron Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:55 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Foods You First Ate as a Child in '40's I recall Kresgie (?sp) and Woolworths in Lowell, MA. Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Foods You First Ate as a Child in '40's > Hello, > > I need to get away from my computer right now, but I just asked my hubby > to > remind me of 2 of his childhood stories. He had eye problems as a > toddler and around Age 5 he started going to "Mass. Eye and Ear" in > Boston. > On the way home with his mother, they would stop for lunch, and he had his > first taste of "french fries." > > He came from a poor family, for several reasons, but partly because both > sets of his grandparents were immigrants. And, when he was about 10, > his > uncle built him a shoe-shine box, and he would sit on a Cambridge > city-street. When he had made a dollar, he went into the "lunch counter" > nearby and asked for "hot chocolate" and toast. The waitress spread > something on his toast and he didn't know what it was. It was butter. > > He said at this home, they would take lard and color it, etc., and make > oleo > with it. > > Right at this second, neither one of us can remember the name of the "5 > and > 10" type store which was in Central Square. It had a "lunch counter" > inside the store where you could sit and ask for coffee, or a sandwich and > a > soda, etc. I know about the "5 and 10's," and I know about the "Ben > Franklin Store." But what was the name of the similar store? The > store we're thinking of was still existing in New England up until about > 5-10 years ago. > > He said there were other stores which had "lunch counters." He > remembers > "Gorin's." > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator > > > (My mother was an OK cook, but not great. There were 3 foods which she > liked to cook for meals, which I did not like at all. "liver and > onions," her version of "pea soup," and asparagus. I still don't > like > liver. But, as an adult, I tried "fresh asparagus" and liked it. I > remembered she had always pulled asparagus out of a can. And, one day I > tried "pea soup" in a restaurant, and discovered it wasn't so bad.) > > (Her mother was a great baker ! She was well-known for her home-made > bread and rolls, etc. Because of genealogy, I found out she probably > learned how to be a great baker at "The Temporary Home for Women and > Children" in Boston. She was the grandmother who was twice-orphaned > near > Boston, and ended up at Age 10 in an orphanage, and then around 13 or 14 > when to "The Temporary Home." She remained there until she was about > 20.) > (Her Adoptive parents told her she was a "foundling" on the steps of a > church in Boston. I believe that was another "lie." I believe that > they were her grandparents, and that their married in daughter in CT had a > pregnancy outside of her marriage in the "summer of 1888.") > > (For unknown reasons, my grandmother was given the name, Daisy WATROUS, at > birth. At her adoption in 1892, her name was changed to Mary Anna Clark > DEXTER. The only thing I can think of is that her birth-father was a > WATROUS. Her Adoptive parents "knew" her both her birth-mother and > birth-father were, and they never told her. They died between 1899 and > 1905, while she was 10 and 16.) > > (I'm told that WATROUS is a variation on WATERHOUSE.) > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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You are lucky today if you can even FIND anything that you loved as a kid! They have replaced or discontinued all the good ole things!!! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harriet Cady Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:10 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Foods You First Ate as a Child in '40's HI Bety, The only two other 5 and 10 cent stores I remember are Newberries and Woolworths.  When I was small I remember that y Dad used to sometimes take me to the corner store and buy me pink wintergreen hard candies.  A nichol bought a large bag of them and I held them tightly in my hand all the way home sucking on them. Stil love them but today you get for $1.59 what I used to get for the nichol. Harriet Hello, I need to get away from my computer right now,  but I just asked my hubby to remind me of 2 of his childhood stories.     He had eye problems as a toddler and around Age 5 he started going to "Mass. Eye and Ear" in Boston. On the way home with his mother, they would stop for lunch, and he had his first taste of "french fries." He came from a poor family, for several reasons, but partly because both sets of his grandparents were immigrants.     And, when he was about 10, his uncle built him a shoe-shine box, and he would sit on a Cambridge city-street.   When he had made a dollar, he went into the "lunch counter" nearby and asked for "hot chocolate" and toast.   The waitress spread something on his toast and he didn't know what it was.   It was butter. He said at this home, they would take lard and color it, etc., and make oleo with it. Right at this second, neither one of us can remember the name of the  "5 and 10" type store which was in Central Square.    It had a "lunch counter" inside the store where you could sit and ask for coffee, or a sandwich and a soda, etc.      I know about the "5 and 10's," and I know about the "Ben Franklin Store."   But what was the name of the similar store?       The store we're thinking of was still existing in New England up until about 5-10 years ago. He said there were other stores which had "lunch counters."    He remembers "Gorin's." Betty          (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator (My mother was an OK cook, but not great.    There were 3 foods which she liked to cook for meals, which I did not like at all.     "liver and onions,"  her version of "pea soup,"  and  asparagus.     I still don't like liver.   But, as an adult, I tried "fresh asparagus" and liked it.   I remembered she had always pulled asparagus out of a can.    And, one day I tried "pea soup" in a restaurant,  and discovered it wasn't so bad.) (Her mother was a great baker !     She was well-known for her home-made bread and rolls, etc.    Because of genealogy,  I found out she probably learned how to be a great baker at   "The Temporary Home for Women and Children" in Boston.     She was the grandmother who was twice-orphaned near Boston, and ended up at Age 10 in an orphanage, and then around 13 or 14 when to "The Temporary Home."    She remained there until she was about 20.) (Her Adoptive parents told her she was a "foundling" on the steps of a church in Boston.    I believe that was another "lie."    I believe that they were her grandparents, and that their married in daughter in CT had a pregnancy outside of her marriage in the "summer of 1888.") (For unknown reasons, my grandmother was given the name, Daisy WATROUS, at birth.    At her adoption in 1892, her name was changed to Mary Anna Clark DEXTER.    The only thing I can think of is that her birth-father was a WATROUS.    Her Adoptive parents "knew"  her both her birth-mother and birth-father were,  and they never told her.    They died between 1899 and 1905, while she was 10 and 16.) (I'm told that WATROUS is a variation on WATERHOUSE.) When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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It wasn't Woolworth's, was it???? -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:14 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Foods You First Ate as a Child in '40's Hello, I need to get away from my computer right now, but I just asked my hubby to remind me of 2 of his childhood stories. He had eye problems as a toddler and around Age 5 he started going to "Mass. Eye and Ear" in Boston. On the way home with his mother, they would stop for lunch, and he had his first taste of "french fries." He came from a poor family, for several reasons, but partly because both sets of his grandparents were immigrants. And, when he was about 10, his uncle built him a shoe-shine box, and he would sit on a Cambridge city-street. When he had made a dollar, he went into the "lunch counter" nearby and asked for "hot chocolate" and toast. The waitress spread something on his toast and he didn't know what it was. It was butter. He said at this home, they would take lard and color it, etc., and make oleo with it. Right at this second, neither one of us can remember the name of the "5 and 10" type store which was in Central Square. It had a "lunch counter" inside the store where you could sit and ask for coffee, or a sandwich and a soda, etc. I know about the "5 and 10's," and I know about the "Ben Franklin Store." But what was the name of the similar store? The store we're thinking of was still existing in New England up until about 5-10 years ago. He said there were other stores which had "lunch counters." He remembers "Gorin's." Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator (My mother was an OK cook, but not great. There were 3 foods which she liked to cook for meals, which I did not like at all. "liver and onions," her version of "pea soup," and asparagus. I still don't like liver. But, as an adult, I tried "fresh asparagus" and liked it. I remembered she had always pulled asparagus out of a can. And, one day I tried "pea soup" in a restaurant, and discovered it wasn't so bad.) (Her mother was a great baker ! She was well-known for her home-made bread and rolls, etc. Because of genealogy, I found out she probably learned how to be a great baker at "The Temporary Home for Women and Children" in Boston. She was the grandmother who was twice-orphaned near Boston, and ended up at Age 10 in an orphanage, and then around 13 or 14 when to "The Temporary Home." She remained there until she was about 20.) (Her Adoptive parents told her she was a "foundling" on the steps of a church in Boston. I believe that was another "lie." I believe that they were her grandparents, and that their married in daughter in CT had a pregnancy outside of her marriage in the "summer of 1888.") (For unknown reasons, my grandmother was given the name, Daisy WATROUS, at birth. At her adoption in 1892, her name was changed to Mary Anna Clark DEXTER. The only thing I can think of is that her birth-father was a WATROUS. Her Adoptive parents "knew" her both her birth-mother and birth-father were, and they never told her. They died between 1899 and 1905, while she was 10 and 16.) (I'm told that WATROUS is a variation on WATERHOUSE.) When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone remember Spudnuts, or was that a west coast thing?  They were like doughnuts, I think -- we had a little store down at the end of the street, but I don't remember having any.   Judy  

Hi Faye, On my extended KIDDER family tree, I can offer another "guess" as to how my great-grandparents met. Actually, 2 generations. I'll start with the Ashbel RICE * family which left MA just after the Rev. War and moved up to "Maine." Maybe around 1790, they moved across the water to Digby, NS. Around 1800 they moved back and Daniel was born in Lubec ~1803/4. Daniel and his wife had 10 children and the youngest was Charles, b1850. Now, how did Charles meet Adelaide HUTCHINSON living in Winchester, MA? I can only guess that Charles, as a 20-yr-old left Lubec and came down to Winchester to work on the large farm. Charles and Adelaide RICE had 2 daughters in 1876 and 1878 and then "separated." Charles remained in MA and it took me many years to find out where he lived. As the daughters grew up, did Charles take his daughters up to visit his relatives in Lubec? Or, did he remain in contact with them on a regular basis? Or, as teens or young adults, did Louise and Edith travel up to Lubec on summer vacations to visit their uncles, aunts, and cousins? Is that how they met G. Sanford KIDDER who was then living in the next town, Eastport? Louise and Edith were born and raised on the HUTCHINSON farm, but Louise chose to get married in Sanford's home-town of Princeton, ME, in 1898. They came down to Winchester as their daughter was born there in 1899. (My grandmother, Clarissa Adelaide KIDDER, was named after both grandmothers. Only Clarissa KIDDER was called "Clara" and my grandmother, as far as I know, only was called Clarissa.) -- By the way, my grandmother's youngest daughter is her only surviving child. Gertrude "Trudy" lost contact with her father's siblings many years ago. One of her "2nd cousins" found some of my queries from several years ago and contacted me in the spring. My aunt now has the current addresses of her cousins and is writing to them, and possibly calling them. She lives south of Boston, and the cousins seem to live near me. -- And I was reminded last week that some descendants of my KIDDER family of Princeton, ME, also came down and currently live "near Lowell, MA." I don't know if they have an interest in their family-tree, but, I might write to them. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: Ashbel RICE was from Marlborough, MA, and he married Percissa / Persis KNIGHT then from nearby Stow, MA. Way back when I found very old messages that said that this KNIGHT family had spent some time in Nova Scotia. But, over the years, I've found no evidence of that. Persis seems to have been one of about 17 children of Ebenezer KNIGHT, who had 3 wives. He had initially lived in Woburn, MA (near Boston), and then moved out to Stow. (Marlborough and Stow are midway between Waltham (near Boston) and Worcester, which is "Central MA." As someone pointed out to me recently, because of the Cape Cod area, Central MA is Worcester. But, thinking about Boston and then Pittsfield, many people think that Central MA is the Quabbin Reservoir and Amherst area. And I think of Springfield as Central MA, but actually that city is near the border with Connecticut. Many Canadians followed the Connecticut River down and settled in those cities bordering it.)

> Where do you live in "West Michigan?" I'm in Howell. Hi, I live just outside of White Cloud, the county seat of Newaygo County. Many of the earliest settlers here came thru Canada. I volunteer in the W. C. Community Library for genealogical & history look-ups. Originally from Detroit, have lived here for 46 years. I have Garry, McDonald, Embree and Balis in my ancestry for the four main lines. Also have all five volumes of Embree Footprints in case any Embree's on the list want a search. Was pretty near Howell on June 14, stopped at Tanger Marketplace on my way home from a family wedding near Belleville. I like it much better than Birch Run. You are lucky to be so close. Best, Elsie Pykonen

Betty You bring up an interesting point - about our trying to fill in the blanks of how life went for our folks past... My great grandmother, born in Boston, grew up in Solon Maine. My great grandfather grew up in Carroll County, New Hampshire. I couldn't begin to imagine how they managed to get together until I found that her uncle, who lived in the same town as my great grandfather, died a few years prior to my gr grandparent's marriage. Did she travel there for the funeral? Had she visited her uncle many times? It is interesting to try to "see" what might have happened. Do others of you find yourselves doing the same? Even trying to imagine what it was like for people such as those Betty mentioned who found they had to move to Canada - or later on had to decide which side, North or South, etc. It makes for quite the mental journey! faye > > As I'm thinking about this this morning, I'm now wondering whether Calvin > was on his way to St. Andrews to "tell" his "in-laws" about the birth !! > ?? And, there was an announcement in a local newspaper (?) about the > "Melancholy Accident." But, I now wonder whether the "birth" was > announced in the papers; it would have been Feb. 1799. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > FYI: > > Calvin was never reported to have been a Loyalist or a Sympathizer. But, > when he left New Hampshire as an 18-year-old, he traveled with other > families from NH who were Loyalists. One was HITCHINGS. And no one > really knows how he spent ~1784 to ~1797 in New Brunswick. Perhaps he > left the St. David area and went to the St. Andrews area - and that's how he > met Mercy. (guesses) Reading above, it seems most of the families > Calvin would have lived with, or met, would have been Loyalists. > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One and all.. faye

Hello, This month many researchers on the GREENLAW Board are discussing the name. William GREENLAW and 6-7 sons arrived from Scotland and went to "Maine" in 1753. Around 1784, 4-5 of the sons became Loyalists and moved to New Brunswick. Most of the families which stayed for a while settled in St. Andrews, NB. I just went to see the early history of that town and found this: St. Andrews was founded in 1783 by United Empire Loyalists and named in honour of St Andrews, Scotland. The town is well preserved, with many original buildings still in place (some of which were floated to the town on barges from Castine, Maine at the end of the Revolutionary War). There are many layers of history visible starting from the late 1700s, including the town's well-known formal grid street layout and many historic buildings. Many of the commercial buildings on Water Street date from the 1800s. Between 1820 and 1860, the port of St. Andrews was used extensively during the Irish Migration. The Irish were first quarantined at Hospital Island, situated a few kilometers in Passamaquoddy Bay. By the 1851 Census, over 50% of the town were born in Ireland. [1] The Algonquin, a resort situated on a hill overlooking the town, was built in 1889, making St. Andrews Canada's first seaside resort community. The hotel burned down in 1914 and was rebuilt one year later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Andrews,_New_Brunswick FYI: I've been thinking about my brick-wall ancestor, Mercy GREENLAW, b~1775-1780 "Maine," this month. And, I'm beginning to think more seriously that she was probably part of one of the families which had left "Maine" and moved to New Brunswick. So, she would have been part of a Loyalist family. It was July 1798 when she married Calvin KIDDER in New Brunswick. It was said they married in what was then Schoodic (NB) (later St. Stephen), but they also could have been married in St. Andrews. It was late Jan. 1799, when Mercy gave birth to a son. One week later, Calvin was in a mailboat which was on its way from the (then) Schoodic River and going to St. Andrews. But in the Bay, the mailboat overturned and all 5 men in the boat drowned. As I'm thinking about this this morning, I'm now wondering whether Calvin was on his way to St. Andrews to "tell" his "in-laws" about the birth !! ?? And, there was an announcement in a local newspaper (?) about the "Melancholy Accident." But, I now wonder whether the "birth" was announced in the papers; it would have been Feb. 1799. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) FYI: Calvin was never reported to have been a Loyalist or a Sympathizer. But, when he left New Hampshire as an 18-year-old, he traveled with other families from NH who were Loyalists. One was HITCHINGS. And no one really knows how he spent ~1784 to ~1797 in New Brunswick. Perhaps he left the St. David area and went to the St. Andrews area - and that's how he met Mercy. (guesses) Reading above, it seems most of the families Calvin would have lived with, or met, would have been Loyalists.

Ain't THAT the truth!!!?????? About having to save the cans during WWII and now again, we are "recycling" them? I guess what goes 'round, comes 'round!!! I don't remember the old grease bit, tho, about saving it to sell to the butcher. But, I know my grandmother used to save it to use again... and that icky old cast iron skillet with the old grease in it, used over and over again...... They didn't believe in washing it, because it would stick, they said.... Yuck! Where do you live in "West Michigan?" I'm in Howell. mas -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elsie Pykonen Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:37 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. I recall in the 1940's I was about 13 and it was my job to wash out the empty cans and cut the bottoms off, put lids in can and step on them to squash flat. They were left periodically out on the curb and picked up "for the war effort." Now at 80 I am again washing out the cans and taking them to "recycling." Also remember we saved and strained all grease from frying, etc, stored in cans and sold to the butcher shop for 5 cents/pound. I think the old grease was used for munitions. Elsie in west MI When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I remember that oleo with the "button" in the bag of white stuff, and how LONG it took to squish, squeeze and knead it to make it all a uniform yellow!!! Thank Heaven for yellow oleo now!!! And the oleo we got then was not as much like butter as what we get now, either!!! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paulette Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 11:07 AM To: fenenga@connpoint.net; can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing in America I was very small, but remember hearing about the lack of sugar and gas and definitely remember OLEO!! My sisters and I took turns breaking the red capsule and mixing the color in to make the white oleo yellow in the bag. Also remember buying US War Bond Stamps at the post office and filling up a card with them. Some if these things were after we won the war. Paulette E. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can't say I remember that..... But perhaps my grandmothers who sewed so much, had a supply of it??? and therefore, we didn't suffer from the wartime lack???? I can imagine your horror when your pants fell down in public!!!! Right in the middle of BOSTON!!! I lived in Athol, by the way, at that time.... used to ride the train down to Boston with my aunts to shop for the day when I was a kid. It was a big occasion. mas -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Priscilla Haines Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 7:51 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. Do any of you women remember that we couldn't get elastic? I was just into my teen days then but I remember that we had to tie our panties on. I remember I was walking on Tremont St. in Boston when one of these strings broke. I very red-faced picked my unmentionables up off the pavement and quickly stuffed them in my pocket! Priscilla When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, indeed, times DO change! When I think of the things that shocked my grandmothers, I can only imagine how much more white hair they could have had, if they knew what was happening TODAY !!! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Faye Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:39 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Marriages and society norms It is funny how times change - Being divorced used to carry much more of a stigma than it does today. I married a man who was divorced and my mother never shared that with my grandfather because she thought it would upset him (my grandfather's parents also divorced in around 1903 but his mother never remarried). I think that stigma fell away during the late 60s and 1970s, along with a lot of other rules! I think some of those changes go back to the WWII era, when women for the first time hit the job world in roles other than school teachers and librarians.. Rosie the Riveter and her colleagues set into motion many societal changes! But I also look back to our family tree where brothers and sisters of one family married brothers and sisters in the same other family, and first cousins married each other. While we still see siblings marrying siblings, the first cousins not so much! Faye ---- MASmith <momsmith@fnwusers.com> wrote: > I think the "morality" standards are a lot more lax today than they used to > be.... and therefore, more kinds of marriages, arrangements, matches, etc. > are going on all the time. People are not as strict about what is "proper" > and what is to be banished as they used to be. > > Part of this may have come about because the guys in the service were sent > to all parts of the world with different customs, etc. and brought back > wives who were not completely versed in "our way of life." (For better or > worse!!) And part of it is because there are no longer all the strict > laws, morals, "proper" actions, etc. that there used to be. We have come a > long way since Victorian times.........but if you really know a lot about > what "went on" in those times, you'd probably realize that not all people > really lived up to them at the time, even!!! > > Just my "take" on the subject..........right or wrong? > > mas > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 8:07 AM > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Marriages not Appreciated in past decades > > Hello, > > Both of my parents had a much younger brother, both of whom were born on > "Valentine's Day." Both born in 1930's. My father's younger, > half-brother, joined the Army either during or right after high school. As > > many other soldiers did, he ended up in Germany. He met a young lady > there and they fell in love. He brought her back to the US, and I think > they married here. He was only 10 years older than me. So I have an > aunt who is only 6 yrs. older than me. I don't remember there being any > "discussions" in my father's family about having a lady born in Germany in > their family. > > Over to my mother's younger brother, he also joined the Army - even before > he graduated. While in the Army, he met a young lady in MA, and they fell > > in love and wanted to marry. But, horrors, she was a "divorcee" and worse > than that, she had - a child. There were many "discussions" about this > situation. Both my uncle and his wife had a nice wedding but both were > hurt by all the "discussions" and they became partly estranged from the > family because of it ! That was the 1950's ! They were an "Army > family" and moved to many states. And I don't think I've seen this uncle > and aunt since the 1960's; they didn't even come home for the parents' > funerals. They had a daughter of their own, and then adopted a son. > I've never met their son. > > Cousins will be cousins, and we tried to keep in touch with the 2 daughters. > > Some cousins traveled to their home for vacations. Last summer one of the > > daughters surprised all of us at our annual "cousins get-together" - when > she flew up from a southern state to attend the cookout ! She was the > daughter from her mother's first marriage, and she was made to feel "family" > > last summer, and she really appreciated it. > > My parents came from 2, different kinds of families. One with a lot of > "pride" and one with - not quite so much. > > "Proper Bostonians" were not always in MA/US. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > (We know a man who fathered a child while in the Army and in Germany. We > don't know the circumstances, but he came back and married here and had > children with his wife. As it turned out? Both daughters ended up with > > the same first-name - unbeknownst to him.) > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! 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Hi Betty, Re: ESSEX, Arthur. d:1943, Germay. had been listed as MIA. Thanks for the 2 links you shared. Been involved in No. CAL. fire season since the 5th, working a 10 hr day Mon- Sat. won't be much time for play untill the Winter rains come. I printed out the links for later, thanks so much for your help, its appreciated. ~Linda~ "Loved ones" are your family tree, and lifes journey.

There was a Woolworth's Store on one side of Mass. and a Kresge's on the orther in Central Square, Cambridge , MA. Al Burns

I have written this before and will ask again. Polly Knapp born about 1775 married Silas HEFFLON between 1800 and 1805 when they have a son Hiram Hefflon and are in Surry, NH.  I would like to find Polly's parents names and the marriage certificate. I also have a roadblock for Silas Hefflon born Ireland about 1765-1775, his death cerificate says born Ireland. Hiram's birth certificate says for Rhode Island but I suspect it may have been eastern CT. I have been told there is a Hefflon Farm Road in Old Lyme, CT but have never been able to prove it. Harriet   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Database Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity  4 New Members  1 New Photos  6 New LinksVisit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . __,_._,___

Hello, Might be a good time to remind researchers that, if you are going on vacation, or on "holiday" as they say in the UK, and you are going to be away from your computer for a month or so, that you might want to un-subscribe for that month. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html Perhaps others have suggestions which don't involve unsubscribing. (Just remember to "subscribe" when you return. For some, less-than-active Lists, I sometimes forget to re-subscribe.) Another reminder is that there are 2 ways to receive the Digests. One is where all the messages run down the page in the text area. One is where all the messages receive as attachments. (All safe.) I can change that for you. Have a pleasant, July week ! Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: Found this cartoon last month; the words are: "A clean house is a sign of a broken computer." :o)

Did anyone else enjoy the baked macaroni at Waldorf's? At least I think the store was called that. As I remember you went to a counter and placed your order and they brought the food out. So many years ago it is hard to remember but I can still taste that great dish! Priscilla