Hello, I was looking for more information on the large "Algonquin Provincial Park" in the Province of Ontario, Canada, and I found a reference to something I had not heard of before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England%27s_Dark_Day The likely cause of the Dark Day was smoke from massive forest fires. When a fire does not kill a tree and the tree later grows, scar marks are left in the growth rings.[8] This makes it possible to approximate the date of a past fire. Researchers examining the scar damage in Ontario, Canada, attribute the Dark Day to a large fire in the area that is today occupied by Algonquin Provincial Park.[9] On that web page, I clicked on "1780," and found an interesting page showing "events" which happened that year, including births and deaths. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1780 FYI: http://www.algonquinpark.on.ca/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquin_Provincial_Park That page says that the Park is well over 7, 500 square kilometers in size. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)

Hi again, My hubby just got up and I asked him where he went canoeing / camping with his "very rich friends" many years ago. It was this Park. http://www.algonquinpark.on.ca/ And, as I said in my other post this morning, the man we met at a yard sale a few weeks ago said he used to be a Ranger at that Park. http://www.algonquinpark.on.ca/ -- You never know who you are going to meet ! :o) Actually, that could be a subject matter: How many had a relative or ancestor who was a "Park Ranger?" Oh, I just took another quick look at that site, and I see it refers to a "Park Warden." I'm not seeing a page which says how large the Park is, but it seems to be very large. This page offers a brief history of it: http://www.algonquinpark.on.ca/geninfo/history.html Pioneer loggers pushing up from the Ottawa Valley reached Algonquin in search of the great White Pine trees whose prime wood was increasingly in demand by an expanding British economy. Living in remote, primitive camps, they felled and squared the giant pine, and when spring came, drove them down swollen rivers to the Ottawa River and the outside world. The story of that colourful era and subsequent logging in the Park is told at one of Algonquin's two museums , the Algonquin Logging Museum, located near the East Gate. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator (My KIDDER ancestors along the Maine / New Brunswick border from 1780's and probably up to 1900 were all loggers or woodsmen, etc.) (Some "loved the water" and went to sea.) (The "very rich family" which hubby knew when he was in his 20's had ties to Boston, MA, NYC, and, because of their money - all across North America. He has not associated with them since he was in his 20's.)

Hi Lauraine, Thank you for explaining the "fatal tornado." It is sad. Over the past 5? years, I've heard 2-3 stories about men and/or families who lived in the US and who either had a "vacation house" or went on "fishing trips" in Canada. Most of the time they were "people with money" who could afford such a vacation. My hubby was friendly with a "very" rich family while in his 20's, and some members of the family took him on a canoe trip to Canada one time. I can't remember the name of the town / lake they went to. When he wakes up, I'll ask him. But, a few weeks ago, we went to a "yard sale" in a town a half-hour drive from us. It was a nice house on the shore of a lake. We drove up the long driveway and got out of the car and a whole family came out to greet us. The husband and my husband got into a chat about the "canoe" they were selling, and both were surprised -- they had both canoed on the same lake in Canada ! :o) In fact, if I remember correctly, the man had been a "ranger" in the park (?). We hear so many stories on the "news" on TV that we often hear about (usually) men who have traveled long distances or to other countries -- for "climbing mountains," etc. And, "accidents happen." Closer to home, one of my gr-grandparents' sons-in-law from Winchester, MA, seems to have loved to go "hunting" in the White Mountains of NH. I haven't found out what happened to him, but he seems to have "met his death" while there. And, I think he is buried in a cemetery there. In the same extended family, and also near the White Mountains, a grandson was out hunting, and "an accident happened." He was shot in the leg and lost that leg as a result. I believe he was a teen or very young man at the time. This set of great-grandparents was the LEWIS / CORKILL couple who had previously been "British Home Children." They were born and raised in Liverpool, England, and were sent to Nova Scotia as teen-agers. They married in Truro in 1879 and in 1881 came down to MA. They settled in Stoneham and raised .13. children. Most remained in MA, but, after the parents died of cancer in 1923 and 1924, two of the children left New England. The youngest son went out to California. One of the daughters married a man from NJ and moved there for a short time, but then moved out to CA near her brother. This is the gr-grandfather who decided to "live his last days" the White Mountains, and that is a mystery to us. He is buried in a small town there. After his death, a daughter-in-law went up and bought an abandoned farm in the same town. She then sold it to her husband for $1 and then they moved there. The daughter-in-law had her grandparents (?) come down from Canada. Makes me wonder whether they had some money and they helped her buy the farm. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator OOPS: I just had a thought ! I'm going to go through my notes and remind myself of the daughter in Winchester, MA, who had a husband who might have loved to go hunting ! "Maybe" it was him who introduced his father-in-law to the White Mountains ! Hmmmmmm. Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names.

Last week had an enquiry from some Scottish SMITHS who were interested in my cousins who immigrated to the U.S. at the start of the Civil War. One son in this family stayed in Scotland and his son was a Provost of Leith. Searching for more information on the man ran into this site. Not sure what the "book" means but perhaps the person is listed in a book in the archives. Did notice some people shown as in U.S. as well as Canada, so providing the URL. http://www.scottishfamilyheritage.co.uk/list_vikingclub.shtm Lauraine

When I came from Vermont and was first married my husband tok his mother and I to Benson's animal park one Sunday. Many yearslater I took our sons with a friend and it was such a nice little place to go with children. Harriet Hello, We've been discussing old Amusement Parks in New England on my "Memories" List,  and someone brought up the discussion of "Benson's Wild Animal Farm / Park" in southern NH  (US).     I looked it up, and it was started by a John BENSON. I found a page mentioning that he had previously been a manager at the "Lexington Park" in MA.   This might be him in census pages, showing he came from England. BENSON, JOHN T   (1910 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , MIDDLESEX, LEXINGTON Age: 35, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL Series: T624 Roll: 598 Page: 158 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson's_Wild_Animal_Farm However, when trying to find him in census records,  I saw that many with the BENSON name came down from Canada.     Many others came from England or Sweden, etc.    It's a surname we don't see on the New England Lists, and I wondered whether anyone did research it. Betty         (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI:     Come to think of it,  were there as many "old amusement parks" in Canada? (I'm pretty sure I've mentioned before that my sister and I had a visit to "Parc Safari"  around 1978.   She and her husband and their young kids and me and my young kids drove up in the middle of a "heat wave."    We had a family-size tent and stopped at a campground.    Didn't know that "thunderstorms" -happened-  quite suddenly without nice -  and, while we were swimming, "down" with the tent !   On top of the open suitcases ! No electricity;  no dryer;  slept in large SUV in wet swimsuits that night.) :o( (Just another of my family's  "things to remember.") :o) When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bonnie: Many of the records remain and Family Search does have transcripts of some. They are being done and eventually Family Search and perhaps Ancestory will have Ukrainian records. My husbands family came from the Ukraine and his grandparents were both born there in 1867 and 1868 when it was under the rule of Austria. It appears his grandmother sent for her baptism record (to prove birth date for pension>) between WW1 and WW2. It was issued in Poland. Galacia, Ukraine was under the Empire of Austria when they left. After WW1, it was under Poland and after WW2 under the U.S.S.R. until the iron curtain fell. It is now a country in its own right. My memory seems to recall someone working on the Bukovia records - believe some of my husbands family came from that area. Lauraine > > From: "Bonnie St.Onge" <bsstonge@yahoo.com> > Date: 2009/07/17 Fri PM 07:53:26 CDT > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Where Would You Vacation for Genealogy Reasons? > > Good topic! I would definately go to the Ukraine for starters. My great-grandparents came to Canada from Bukovina. Can't find any information about them or their families. I believe alot of info and records were destroyed during WW II. They were Theodor/Tudor Dmytriuk/Demetrick and Rachela Slowski. They came over in 1903 with 2 young sons. They lived in Manitoba and Alberta. My grandfather James never spoke of his past. But I did have contact with his younger sister Alice years ago. Also have been in contact with one of his nephews and his daughter-in-law. >   > After that I would go to Alsace Lorraine, which is now France. Looking for Joseph Englehart and Barbara Heck. Both born in Germany moved to Huron County, Michigan. Joseph was married before and have been in contact with a few of his descendants/cousins. Then hop over to Oppenhien, Germany to look for John/Jean Walding/Valdung. He was married Catherine Engle. He died and she went back to live in Germany with her son Pierre. Would then go to Nancy, France where my DeMefve and Lengst side. Joseph and Catherine. Nothing is known about them except they had a son Jules who lived in New York. Their daughter Frances Marie is my Great-great Grandmother. Their familes came to Huron County, Michigan. >   > Thats just part of my history. England is another spot. Leeds where my RIchard Fletcher and Susan/Susannah Wadsworth families are from and moved to Bay County, Michigan. Also the Wing family is from Englandand later to Massachuetts. My Phillips are unknown except that my Great-great-great grandfather was born in Canada and moved to Hounsfield, Jefferson county, New York. Lawrence Phillips was married to Jane ?. Then married to Josephine Lago/LeGault. He died and she married his son Lawrence and had many children. Then moved to Bay County, Michigan. And thats just part of my family. >   > I could go on and on but not going to right now. >   > Bonnie DeMetrick St.Onge >   >   >   >   > > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Where Would You Vacation for Genealogy Reasons? > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:11 AM > > > Hello, > > In order to get the List back to mentioning our ancestors, and how to find > out about their lives, I can offer a Subject matter which I just thought of. > > I get e-mail-reminders from genealogy-publishing companies,  and a book was > mentioned this morning:    "Collecting Dead Relatives."   And, it has a > picture of a woman chasing "relatives"  with a large butterfly net on the > front cover.     See below. > > I was also thinking that this is summertime and when a lot of people go on > vacation - sometimes genealogists do.    (And that is a reason there are > less queries on the Lists during July and August.     So, I came up with a > suggestion for a topic.       IF you had the money, the health, and the > time, or the wherewithal,  to take an extended vacation / trip for genealogy > reasons,  where would you go? > > I have several  "to do lists,"   of course "household to do's"  and  "family > to do's,"  but I have 2  "genealogy to do's."    One is the list of all my > "brick walls" and finding out more information about those ancestors. > But, the other is a list of all the places I would travel to and spend time > in - for genealogy reasons.    At the top of my list, and the one which has > been there the longest, is spend a month, or even a summer, in Washington > County, Maine.     I want to see where my KIDDER and WILKINS families lived > during all of the 1800's.      (Some of their descendants still live there, > and they won't respond to my letters, but maybe they would open their door, > if I knocked on it. * > > (I'd make side-trips to both New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, as my ancestors > lived there, also.    My LEWIS / CORKILL great-grandmother had 3 siblings > remain in Nova Scotia when she and one sister came down to MA.) > > Near the top of the List is spending a month, or even a summer,  in > Argenteuil County, Province of Quebec.    I hear that it's beautiful country > !    And I'd like to visit the long-standing  "KERR Farm."    And, maybe I'd > get lucky and meet some descendants of the KERR's and HENDERSON's. > > I have another set of genealogy-pen-pals in Canada, specifically in British > Columbia.     And, I hear that is beautiful country, also.    Perhaps a few > weeks in Vancouver would be nice. > > Trips "across the big pond" would take a little more planning.    The > majority of my direct ancestors came from the United Kingdom, either in the > 1600's, or a few sets from the 1800's.    Perhaps a month in England would > give me a sense of how my ancestors from 1800's lived.    But, then we have > the major "brick wall ancestors" who supposedly lived in County Sligo, > Ireland.    And other ancestors moved back and forth between Ireland and > Scotland in late 1700's.    So, maybe I would spend a month visiting both > areas. > > That's all I'll mention this morning.          Have a pleasant weekend ! > > Betty         (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator > > > FYI: > http://www.genealogical.com/products/Collecting%20Dead%20Relatives/2105.html > > *  Actually,  last month I wrote a letter to the Public Library in > Princeton, Maine, asking for help with my KIDDER research.     The Librarian > responded, and not only did she send some information but she went to the > cemeteries and took a few pictures for me.   Adding to that?    She is a > KIDDER descendant.     She is also descended from what I call "the two > Calvin's."  But, she came from a different grandson / son.     ("very > distant cousin.") > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! 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Hi Betty: The tornado struck Ear Falls, Ont. and three men from Oklahoma were lost. They had come to Canada on a fishing trip. Very sad. Wonder how many on our list have lost ancestors or relatives to tornadoes, hurricanes, floods and fire. Lauraine > > From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Date: 2009/07/11 Sat AM 07:23:42 CDT > To: <new-england-memories@rootsweb.com>, <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Reasons for "Sudden Deaths" > > Hello, > > My hubby had an uncle in Cambridge, MA (US) who went out for a walk in the > woods. He stopped and picked up some mushrooms and ate one. His uncle > did not come home from his walk. I think it was the 1950's. And, there > must have been more "open space" in Cambridge at that time. > > His other uncle suffered from Epilepsy, and he also died in the 1950's. > > .. And, sorry to hear on the news this morning that there was a "fatal" > Tornado strike in Northern Ontario. I heard it on "The Weather > Channel." > > http://www.weather.com/newscenter/topstories/todayinweather.html#canadatornado0710 > > And, someone on the Brooklyn, NY (US) List today mentioned the "fatal" > Heat Wave in 1918. (I suffered through an official Heat Wave on a visit > to EX's family in Brooklyn, ~1968-1970. He came from a poor family and > lived in a tenement building; their apt. had 3 windows which opened into > courtyards. And they had one, small fan. My last trip to Brooklyn was > ~1975.) :o) > > And, my mother's grandfather was sitting at the table having dinner with his > family, when he died while sitting there. I'll have to dig out his > "death record," but I don't think it was a Stroke. I think it was an > undiagnosed health problem. > > And I lost an uncle ~10 yrs. ago. He was 60 and was living in VA. He > kept telling me on the phone he didn't feel well and blamed it on > "allergies." Virginia-weather conditions. He didn't go to doctors; > didn't like them. But his wife "insisted" that he go to a VA Hospital to > be checked out. That night-- he died. The autopsy showed he had: > undiagnosed cancer, undiagnosed heart disease, and undiagnosed lung > disease. (All 3 diseases came down from his KIDDER ancestors along the > Maine / New Brunswick border.) > > I used to know a lady in my town in the 1980's, during my single-parent > days. She was sitting at the table with her husband and kids for Sunday > dinner. Her husband "choked to death" - at the table. > > OOPS ... not a pleasant discussion, for a sunny morning in New England ! > I should be talking about - taking a walk in the woods ! :o) > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator > > > (I just heard that the "Cathedral of the Pines" in southern NH was affected > by the "Ice Storm" of this Spring. A "good" place to take a walk in the > woods.) > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, We've been discussing old Amusement Parks in New England on my "Memories" List, and someone brought up the discussion of "Benson's Wild Animal Farm / Park" in southern NH (US). I looked it up, and it was started by a John BENSON. I found a page mentioning that he had previously been a manager at the "Lexington Park" in MA. This might be him in census pages, showing he came from England. BENSON, JOHN T (1910 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , MIDDLESEX, LEXINGTON Age: 35, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ENGL Series: T624 Roll: 598 Page: 158 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson's_Wild_Animal_Farm However, when trying to find him in census records, I saw that many with the BENSON name came down from Canada. Many others came from England or Sweden, etc. It's a surname we don't see on the New England Lists, and I wondered whether anyone did research it. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: Come to think of it, were there as many "old amusement parks" in Canada? (I'm pretty sure I've mentioned before that my sister and I had a visit to "Parc Safari" around 1978. She and her husband and their young kids and me and my young kids drove up in the middle of a "heat wave." We had a family-size tent and stopped at a campground. Didn't know that "thunderstorms" -happened- quite suddenly without nice - and, while we were swimming, "down" with the tent ! On top of the open suitcases ! No electricity; no dryer; slept in large SUV in wet swimsuits that night.) :o( (Just another of my family's "things to remember.") :o)

Hi Bonnie, I was reading your email to "Coates" and thought you might like to know that I have done some research on Ira Gardner WING (born in Chautauqua NY or Naples Ontario and his parents MAY have come from VT and CT). Ira was a farmer first residing in Mackinaw Twp and later he resided in Inverness Twp of Cheboygan County MI which is next door to Mackinac County. There is much co-mingling in those 2 counties. Ira WING married Elizabeth CARDINAL/CARDINELL (dtr. of Jean-Baptiste "John" W. CARDINAL of NY State and Felicite "Sophia" PROVOST of Huntingdon County, Quebec. I have Ira WING (1857 to 1849) listed as the son of Lyman Carroll WING and Rhoda Almira BARLOW but that has not been confirmed. Ira WING and Elizabeth CARDINAL (married in 1881 in Cheboygan MI) had 7 children in Cheboygan and Emmet counties. I've been in touch with some of their descendants and in-laws. Does Ira intersect with any of your WINGs? What was the name of your hubby's St. Onge family who settled in Mackinac County? Cec Combs -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bonnie St.Onge Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:03 PM To: coates@tnt21.com; can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WING in MA (US) I have gone way back with the Wing family. My hubby's St.Onge family settled in Mackinac County, Michigan area. Don't have alot on them except Louis St.Onge was born in Canada about 1800. Married Catherine Peltier/Pelletier born about 1810 or so. Have no parents for either. Census doesn't tell much before 1840's. They were married in 1829. Had lots of children. Not much else. Bonnie   --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Mary Coates <coates@tnt21.com> wrote: From: Mary Coates <coates@tnt21.com> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WING in MA (US) To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 9:38 AM I have a Wing line as well from the 1600's in MA into the 1850's. Let me know what you are interested in. Mary Frego Coates ------Original Message------ From: Betty Sender: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WING in MA  (US) Sent: Jul 18, 2009 5:52 AM Hi Bonnie, Just a quick note for now.    My "home child"  great-grandparents initially came to Nova Scotia and then came down to MA.    They settled in Stoneham, MA, and raised 13 children.     One of their older daughters married into the WING family in the Saugus, MA, area.     I only know a little about them from census information. Betty          (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI:     One of my daughters-in-law knows a St. ONGE family from Lowell, MA. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have gone way back with the Wing family. My hubby's St.Onge family settled in Mackinac County, Michigan area. Don't have alot on them except Louis St.Onge was born in Canada about 1800. Married Catherine Peltier/Pelletier born about 1810 or so. Have no parents for either. Census doesn't tell much before 1840's. They were married in 1829. Had lots of children. Not much else. Bonnie   --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Mary Coates <coates@tnt21.com> wrote: From: Mary Coates <coates@tnt21.com> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WING in MA (US) To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 9:38 AM I have a Wing line as well from the 1600's in MA into the 1850's. Let me know what you are interested in. Mary Frego Coates ------Original Message------ From: Betty Sender: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WING in MA  (US) Sent: Jul 18, 2009 5:52 AM Hi Bonnie, Just a quick note for now.    My "home child"  great-grandparents initially came to Nova Scotia and then came down to MA.    They settled in Stoneham, MA, and raised 13 children.     One of their older daughters married into the WING family in the Saugus, MA, area.     I only know a little about them from census information. Betty          (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI:     One of my daughters-in-law knows a St. ONGE family from Lowell, MA. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

where did they move the church my hubands family moved to Niagara from that area as UEL Edna Servos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Priscilla Haines" <phaines@digis.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Where Would You Vacation forGenealogy Reasons? > Hi Richard...... Wow! That's a TRIP! My husband's g+father donated the > bell to the church in Stone Arabia. When we were back there, we got a > ladder and I climbed up in the steeple with crayon and paper, and made a > copy of the inscription. The things we do for this hobby! Priscilla > > Hello All, > > In 2002 I took a genealogy trip to eastern New York State. I traveled by > train to Albany, NY. > Since I had brought my bicycle and camping equipment with me, I first rode > to Stone Arabia for a family reunion. There was also a Memorial service in > the Palatine Lutheran Church. One of my relatives who donated funds to > build > > the church later moved to Canada. > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

You did all of that on a bike Richard????? Kudos to you!!! Sounds like a wonderful trip - and I've learned of a new town! Faye Near Albany -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:58 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] CAN-USA-MIGRATION Where Would You Vacation forGenealogy Reasons? Hello All, In 2002 I took a genealogy trip to eastern New York State. I traveled by train to Albany, NY. Since I had brought my bicycle and camping equipment with me, I first rode to Stone Arabia for a family reunion. There was also a Memorial service in the Palatine Lutheran Church. One of my relatives who donated funds to build the church later moved to Canada. I did some research at the Archives in Fonda, NY. I later visited the cemetery where my parents are buried. I next traveled to to New Paltz, NY. I stopped in the Hugenot Library. I also spent 4 days doing research in the New Paltz Library. I then went to Albany and did some research there. This was a 2 week trip. Has anyone ever done anything of a similar nature? Richard When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Richard...... Wow! That's a TRIP! My husband's g+father donated the bell to the church in Stone Arabia. When we were back there, we got a ladder and I climbed up in the steeple with crayon and paper, and made a copy of the inscription. The things we do for this hobby! Priscilla Hello All, In 2002 I took a genealogy trip to eastern New York State. I traveled by train to Albany, NY. Since I had brought my bicycle and camping equipment with me, I first rode to Stone Arabia for a family reunion. There was also a Memorial service in the Palatine Lutheran Church. One of my relatives who donated funds to build the church later moved to Canada.

I can't say that I dislike the modern-day margarines. But they are a lot improved over that colored LARD we used to have! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Coyle Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:05 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. I remember my siblings and I used to fight over who got to squeeze the bag, so my mother used to make us take turns. They would get really upset when it was my turn, because I wouldn't eat it. It was so awful tasting. I still won't eat it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. > It was always the job for the KID to squeeze those blessed bags to break > the > color button and then try to get it all mixed into the margarine > uniformly..... Thank Heaven, when they finally legalized coloring the > stuff!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Craig > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:31 PM > To: kinshipmatters@twmi.rr.com; can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] WWII rationing. > > At our house, we used the bacon grease for cooking and I think my dad > made lye soap out of it also. > > I also remember the first oleo I saw. It was white in color and came > in a plastic bag. There was a little button of food coloring in the > middle and me and my brother fought over who would mix the stuff. That > was fun, but it was the most awful stuff I had ever eaten. It felt as > if there was sand in it. That oleo made me vow to never buy anything > but butter once I grew up. and I never did. > > I was born during the second world war (1943) and we lived on a farm, > so I do not remember rationing, but my parents were frugal, as they > had also come through the depression with the 3 kids older than me. > > Marilyn Craig > > > On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:39 AM, D.C. wrote: > >> My dad used to tell us about a sign in the window of a store. The >> sign >> said, "Ladies, Bring your fat cans in here." He laughed every time. >> >> Donna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: On Behalf Of Judy Bingham >> I remember the grease in the coffee cans. >> >> From: Elsie Pykonen <elpyk@ncats.net> >> Also remember we saved and strained all grease from frying, etc, >> stored in >> cans and sold to the butcher shop for 5 cents/pound. I think the >> old grease >> was used for munitions. >> >> >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, >> I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to >> include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please >> make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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Hello All, In 2002 I took a genealogy trip to eastern New York State. I traveled by train to Albany, NY. Since I had brought my bicycle and camping equipment with me, I first rode to Stone Arabia for a family reunion. There was also a Memorial service in the Palatine Lutheran Church. One of my relatives who donated funds to build the church later moved to Canada. I did some research at the Archives in Fonda, NY. I later visited the cemetery where my parents are buried. I next traveled to to New Paltz, NY. I stopped in the Hugenot Library. I also spent 4 days doing research in the New Paltz Library. I then went to Albany and did some research there. This was a 2 week trip. Has anyone ever done anything of a similar nature? Richard

I have a Wing line as well from the 1600's in MA into the 1850's. Let me know what you are interested in. Mary Frego Coates ------Original Message------ From: Betty Sender: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WING in MA (US) Sent: Jul 18, 2009 5:52 AM Hi Bonnie, Just a quick note for now. My "home child" great-grandparents initially came to Nova Scotia and then came down to MA. They settled in Stoneham, MA, and raised 13 children. One of their older daughters married into the WING family in the Saugus, MA, area. I only know a little about them from census information. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: One of my daughters-in-law knows a St. ONGE family from Lowell, MA. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

Hi Bonnie, Just a quick note for now. My "home child" great-grandparents initially came to Nova Scotia and then came down to MA. They settled in Stoneham, MA, and raised 13 children. One of their older daughters married into the WING family in the Saugus, MA, area. I only know a little about them from census information. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: One of my daughters-in-law knows a St. ONGE family from Lowell, MA.

Hello, Out of curiousity, I went to find out if there was a List where people discuss ancestors coming from Germany. I was surprised to see some of the Lists mentioned. For instance, one is where only German is "spoken." http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/DEUTSCHLAND.html And this List is bilingual: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/DEU/GERMAN-GENEALOGY.html For people researching people coming from Germany, you might want to look at the 8 pages of Lists which are about Germany. www.rootsweb.com And there are Message Boards for discussing Germany. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.ceeurope.germany/mb.ashx (GERMANY is also a surname.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: One of my uncles went into the Army during his high-school years. As many soldiers did, he was stationed in Germany for a while. He met a young lady there, and I think he brought her back to Massachusetts to marry here. I can never remember the town she came from, but I think it was somewhere near Hamburg. Her name is Ursula and she is only ~6 years older than me. My uncle was "all English" and so their daughter was brought up with both English and German spoken around her. My aunt had a sister also come to the US, but she lives in Illinois. They would travel back to Germany once a year to visit their family - if they could afford to. Also, my EX had German ancestors. His father had mixed-heritage and his mother was Irish. They lived in Brooklyn, NY, but I have no interest in going back before 1900 - even if I could. Brooklyn, NY, is not as a genealogy-friendly place.

Good topic! I would definately go to the Ukraine for starters. My great-grandparents came to Canada from Bukovina. Can't find any information about them or their families. I believe alot of info and records were destroyed during WW II. They were Theodor/Tudor Dmytriuk/Demetrick and Rachela Slowski. They came over in 1903 with 2 young sons. They lived in Manitoba and Alberta. My grandfather James never spoke of his past. But I did have contact with his younger sister Alice years ago. Also have been in contact with one of his nephews and his daughter-in-law.   After that I would go to Alsace Lorraine, which is now France. Looking for Joseph Englehart and Barbara Heck. Both born in Germany moved to Huron County, Michigan. Joseph was married before and have been in contact with a few of his descendants/cousins. Then hop over to Oppenhien, Germany to look for John/Jean Walding/Valdung. He was married Catherine Engle. He died and she went back to live in Germany with her son Pierre. Would then go to Nancy, France where my DeMefve and Lengst side. Joseph and Catherine. Nothing is known about them except they had a son Jules who lived in New York. Their daughter Frances Marie is my Great-great Grandmother. Their familes came to Huron County, Michigan.   Thats just part of my history. England is another spot. Leeds where my RIchard Fletcher and Susan/Susannah Wadsworth families are from and moved to Bay County, Michigan. Also the Wing family is from Englandand later to Massachuetts. My Phillips are unknown except that my Great-great-great grandfather was born in Canada and moved to Hounsfield, Jefferson county, New York. Lawrence Phillips was married to Jane ?. Then married to Josephine Lago/LeGault. He died and she married his son Lawrence and had many children. Then moved to Bay County, Michigan. And thats just part of my family.   I could go on and on but not going to right now.   Bonnie DeMetrick St.Onge         --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: From: Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Where Would You Vacation for Genealogy Reasons? To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:11 AM Hello, In order to get the List back to mentioning our ancestors, and how to find out about their lives, I can offer a Subject matter which I just thought of. I get e-mail-reminders from genealogy-publishing companies,  and a book was mentioned this morning:    "Collecting Dead Relatives."   And, it has a picture of a woman chasing "relatives"  with a large butterfly net on the front cover.     See below. I was also thinking that this is summertime and when a lot of people go on vacation - sometimes genealogists do.    (And that is a reason there are less queries on the Lists during July and August.     So, I came up with a suggestion for a topic.       IF you had the money, the health, and the time, or the wherewithal,  to take an extended vacation / trip for genealogy reasons,  where would you go? I have several  "to do lists,"   of course "household to do's"  and  "family to do's,"  but I have 2  "genealogy to do's."    One is the list of all my "brick walls" and finding out more information about those ancestors. But, the other is a list of all the places I would travel to and spend time in - for genealogy reasons.    At the top of my list, and the one which has been there the longest, is spend a month, or even a summer, in Washington County, Maine.     I want to see where my KIDDER and WILKINS families lived during all of the 1800's.      (Some of their descendants still live there, and they won't respond to my letters, but maybe they would open their door, if I knocked on it. * (I'd make side-trips to both New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, as my ancestors lived there, also.    My LEWIS / CORKILL great-grandmother had 3 siblings remain in Nova Scotia when she and one sister came down to MA.) Near the top of the List is spending a month, or even a summer,  in Argenteuil County, Province of Quebec.    I hear that it's beautiful country !    And I'd like to visit the long-standing  "KERR Farm."    And, maybe I'd get lucky and meet some descendants of the KERR's and HENDERSON's. I have another set of genealogy-pen-pals in Canada, specifically in British Columbia.     And, I hear that is beautiful country, also.    Perhaps a few weeks in Vancouver would be nice. Trips "across the big pond" would take a little more planning.    The majority of my direct ancestors came from the United Kingdom, either in the 1600's, or a few sets from the 1800's.    Perhaps a month in England would give me a sense of how my ancestors from 1800's lived.    But, then we have the major "brick wall ancestors" who supposedly lived in County Sligo, Ireland.    And other ancestors moved back and forth between Ireland and Scotland in late 1700's.    So, maybe I would spend a month visiting both areas. That's all I'll mention this morning.          Have a pleasant weekend ! Betty         (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: http://www.genealogical.com/products/Collecting%20Dead%20Relatives/2105.html *  Actually,  last month I wrote a letter to the Public Library in Princeton, Maine, asking for help with my KIDDER research.     The Librarian responded, and not only did she send some information but she went to the cemeteries and took a few pictures for me.   Adding to that?    She is a KIDDER descendant.     She is also descended from what I call "the two Calvin's."  But, she came from a different grandson / son.     ("very distant cousin.") When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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Hi, I have read this below message, and note that you are searching for Kidders. I have a comment to make which may or may not help you... When I lived back in Athol, Massachusetts in the late 1940's, I went to school with a boy whose name was Ralph Kidder. I know nothing more about him.... or his family. And I don't know if there are any Kidders still in the Athol area... But, you might want to give it a check and see if you can find any. Just a thought......and happy hunting. Mary Anne Smith -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:40 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] "How" Did Your Ancestors Meet? (RICE) Hi Faye, On my extended KIDDER family tree, I can offer another "guess" as to how my great-grandparents met. Actually, 2 generations. I'll start with the Ashbel RICE * family which left MA just after the Rev. War and moved up to "Maine." Maybe around 1790, they moved across the water to Digby, NS. Around 1800 they moved back and Daniel was born in Lubec ~1803/4. Daniel and his wife had 10 children and the youngest was Charles, b1850. Now, how did Charles meet Adelaide HUTCHINSON living in Winchester, MA? I can only guess that Charles, as a 20-yr-old left Lubec and came down to Winchester to work on the large farm. Charles and Adelaide RICE had 2 daughters in 1876 and 1878 and then "separated." Charles remained in MA and it took me many years to find out where he lived. As the daughters grew up, did Charles take his daughters up to visit his relatives in Lubec? Or, did he remain in contact with them on a regular basis? Or, as teens or young adults, did Louise and Edith travel up to Lubec on summer vacations to visit their uncles, aunts, and cousins? Is that how they met G. Sanford KIDDER who was then living in the next town, Eastport? Louise and Edith were born and raised on the HUTCHINSON farm, but Louise chose to get married in Sanford's home-town of Princeton, ME, in 1898. They came down to Winchester as their daughter was born there in 1899. (My grandmother, Clarissa Adelaide KIDDER, was named after both grandmothers. Only Clarissa KIDDER was called "Clara" and my grandmother, as far as I know, only was called Clarissa.) -- By the way, my grandmother's youngest daughter is her only surviving child. Gertrude "Trudy" lost contact with her father's siblings many years ago. One of her "2nd cousins" found some of my queries from several years ago and contacted me in the spring. My aunt now has the current addresses of her cousins and is writing to them, and possibly calling them. She lives south of Boston, and the cousins seem to live near me. -- And I was reminded last week that some descendants of my KIDDER family of Princeton, ME, also came down and currently live "near Lowell, MA." I don't know if they have an interest in their family-tree, but, I might write to them. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: Ashbel RICE was from Marlborough, MA, and he married Percissa / Persis KNIGHT then from nearby Stow, MA. Way back when I found very old messages that said that this KNIGHT family had spent some time in Nova Scotia. But, over the years, I've found no evidence of that. Persis seems to have been one of about 17 children of Ebenezer KNIGHT, who had 3 wives. He had initially lived in Woburn, MA (near Boston), and then moved out to Stow. (Marlborough and Stow are midway between Waltham (near Boston) and Worcester, which is "Central MA." As someone pointed out to me recently, because of the Cape Cod area, Central MA is Worcester. But, thinking about Boston and then Pittsfield, many people think that Central MA is the Quabbin Reservoir and Amherst area. And I think of Springfield as Central MA, but actually that city is near the border with Connecticut. Many Canadians followed the Connecticut River down and settled in those cities bordering it.) When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message