Yes Lauraine Many of the Native Americans traveled great distances, migtrating with the seasons, following the animals' travels. I was thinking more along the line of the settlers - there were those who explored, and hunted, fought, etc. Many from the Salem Mass area traveled to what is now Rhode Island to fight in King Philips War in the 1670s - and the day to day life of Colonial America. We think little of getting in a car and traveling distances.. 20-30 or even more miles to work, vacation travels, or even going to visit friends or points of interest. When your means of travel is by horse, mule, oxen, etc or boat/canoe or often more likely foot, - wonder how far one would travel away from their own communities and how often! faye ---- syrnick@mts.net wrote: > The Indians certainly travelled distances and if you consider the Seven Years War, the distances seem vast. No doubt much of the travel was done by canoe or boat. Take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War > See the map on the right. > > The French Voyageur travelled from Montreal all the way to the Red River area and probably much further. Can't even imagine some of the difficulties faced back then. > > Lauraine > > > > From: Faye <fmrees@nycap.rr.com> > > Date: 2009/08/11 Tue PM 01:03:32 CDT > > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Travel - was - Finding Out Whether Ancestor "was" > > Native > > > > Adding to the confusion is that the large BANCROFT family > > > > in/near Middleton, MA, where the large WILKINS family was from -- had strong > > > > ties to the "Tribe" near Stoughton, MA. > > > > Hi Betty > > That is quite a distance to travel, it seems, in the 1700s from the Northshore area to the Southshore.. seemed a long trek when I was a kid riding that distance in a car....... > > > > which made me think - how far do we think people may have traveled casually in say pre-revolutionary days. I am not meaning those who relocated but just in every day life - would folks have traveled much outside of their own settlements? > > > > Faye > > > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > To search the archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > The information page is: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Linda, Thank you for reminding people about the "large Fairs" which happen during "harvest time" in many parts of North America. (We're picking corn, and blueberries in our town right now.) I just went to find out how long the "Eastern States Exposition" has been happening. http://www.valleyvisitor.com/arts-culture-reader/items/eastern-states-exposition.html As with the PBS movie about the origin of the "National Parks" in the US (being shown soon), it only takes "one man" or "one woman" - with "a vision" - to make something happen ! And, Joshua BROOKS made that "Exposition" happen in MA. That has gone in Springfield, MA, since maybe 1900, and, while looking for a web site about it, I was reminded of some of the events which go on in Springfield, Missouri. - Over the past weekend hubby and I were watching a movie on TV about a boy/teen who was adopted and lived in a resort in VT. One of the things in the movie was a "Geodesic Dome." During hubby's young adult years he had opportunities to meet many important people, and one of the men he met was the man who invented that "Dome." We discussed it, and, as often happens, he asked me if I had ever seen one, and, of course, I said, Yes. :o) But, I couldn't remember where. When I looked for a brief biography of the inventor, I saw a picture of the "Dome" which stood in Montreal in 1967 ! That was it. During my ill-fated honeymoon with "EX," we had driven to Canada to visit "Expo 67." (We had first driven to Niagara Falls.) On this page, I noticed they also have one in DisneyWorld's Epcot Center. So, I would have seen one there, also. (My one and only trip to FL was a weekend trip there with my children in the 1980's.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_dome I'll be picking up a book at the library this week which is a biography of Buckminster FULLER. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator (Hubby and I are both fairly intelligent and have imagination and why we can't invent something and become famous - is beyond us !) :o) But, if falls under the general category: "Tell God your plans, and He has a good laugh for Himself !!"

Hello, I've mentioned the "history of Billerica" (MA/US) before, and it mentions that, when the "plantations" were first being founded in the early 1600's, there was only one way to "find" them. The men had to walk the Native American footpaths. These footpaths were quite literally only wide enough for your two feet to walk on. And rivers and lakes were very important for the Native Americans, so the footpaths would go to them. I'm guessing that, when the people arriving in the MA Bay Colony from 1620's 1650's, they only found "deep, dark woods" - once they got away from the shoreline. So, it is hoped they brought axes and saws with them. As that would have been all that was available for building a hut or cabin for them to live in. Billerica was founded in 1655, and it probably had couples moving there in the 1630's. The very first couple (men) first "walked" from Cambridge or Woburn to the small Shawsheen River and set up a cabin there. That was the first river they came to. Later they would take walks and find the Concord River, and that was a better place to settle down. But, men or couples settling in the "North Shore" area of Boston would have found the much larger Merrimack River first. Just a reminder that the "Merrimack" is a very long river and "Natives" could have traveled up and down through NH and then across MA to the ocean. I just tried to find a page which listed the very first townships / settlements in the MA Bay Colony, and found this page about the Colony. Further down the page is the list I was looking for. Note that many of the first settlements were given Native American "words." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Bay_Colony Oh, I just noticed that the list of when the settlements were first settled - and not when they were founded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Colony A picture on that site reminded me that the very first people arriving - stayed near the shore. Oh, just found this page which shows which part of the U.K. the Pilgrams came from: http://www.scarborough.k12.me.us/wis/teachers/dtewhey/webquest/colonial/original_homes_of_pilgrims.htm This page shows what a "home" would have looked like in the 1620's: http://gonewengland.about.com/library/blplimoth2.htm A woman famous in early history was Anne Marbury Hutchinson. A read a brief biography of her, and she had left a "nice little house, with a nice little yard, with a white picket fence, which went around the nice flowers and bushes in her yard," etc. And, when she finally arrived with the rest of her children and saw the "shack" they would live in, she sat down and cried. (I sort of find this story hard to believe. As the very first men to "view" the New England shoreline would have gone back to England and "told" other people what they saw.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sam/marbury/anne.html (Anne's husband, William, was not related to my ancestor, George HUTCHINSON, back in England.)

The Indians certainly travelled distances and if you consider the Seven Years War, the distances seem vast. No doubt much of the travel was done by canoe or boat. Take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War See the map on the right. The French Voyageur travelled from Montreal all the way to the Red River area and probably much further. Can't even imagine some of the difficulties faced back then. Lauraine > > From: Faye <fmrees@nycap.rr.com> > Date: 2009/08/11 Tue PM 01:03:32 CDT > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Travel - was - Finding Out Whether Ancestor "was" > Native > > Adding to the confusion is that the large BANCROFT family > > > in/near Middleton, MA, where the large WILKINS family was from -- had strong > > > ties to the "Tribe" near Stoughton, MA. > > Hi Betty > That is quite a distance to travel, it seems, in the 1700s from the Northshore area to the Southshore.. seemed a long trek when I was a kid riding that distance in a car....... > > which made me think - how far do we think people may have traveled casually in say pre-revolutionary days. I am not meaning those who relocated but just in every day life - would folks have traveled much outside of their own settlements? > > Faye > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Its that time of year when the counties begin to have their fairs. Do you remember your experences at one? The first fair was in Pittsfield,Ma. in 1807, by ELKANAH WATSON. Fairs really came into their own during and after the Civil War of 1860's. In 1860-1870 Faris closed at dusk..gas and electric were decades away...In 1893, Chicago, had the first Ferris Wheel, with a height of 261 ft., you rode for .50 cents, and made 2 trips around the loop....also, there was an entreprenur by the name of E.R. JOHNSON, of Fallbrook,CA. did a steady business of serving omlets made from the eggslaid by his 28 Ostriches. In 1930 Chicago State fair, JOHN DEER introduced the first tractor they built...In 1934, Minnesota, had a live, 2 train engines collision in from of the grandstands, In 1938, Iowa had the tallest Cornstalk contests? Ok, We have the Humboldt Co. Fair going this week....go see a fair in your town. ~Linda~

Has anyone tried to access this? I registered, but ran into a snag with my Malcolm SMITH in Iowa. Response was 20 hits with Family Trees DNA. Trying to access any of the connections am drawing a blank. Certainly if any of the descendants of the Iowa SMITHs had their DNA done, would like to contact with them to see if they match my Dad's test. Any assistance or suggestions would be appreciated. Lauraine

Adding to the confusion is that the large BANCROFT family > > in/near Middleton, MA, where the large WILKINS family was from -- had strong > > ties to the "Tribe" near Stoughton, MA. Hi Betty That is quite a distance to travel, it seems, in the 1700s from the Northshore area to the Southshore.. seemed a long trek when I was a kid riding that distance in a car....... which made me think - how far do we think people may have traveled casually in say pre-revolutionary days. I am not meaning those who relocated but just in every day life - would folks have traveled much outside of their own settlements? Faye

Hi Betty: Once again "what the book says" differs with other information. Books are written by people who often are misinformed or possess wrong information. This is the perfect example of my belief that just because it published in a book, doesn't mean its true. We can use books for guidance, but still need to prove the information. Many people want to claim Indian ancestry which is strange as not too far back, people wanted to hide such things. Lauraine > > From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Date: 2009/08/11 Tue AM 05:53:30 CDT > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Finding Out Whether Ancestor "was" Native > > Hello, > > I was just reminded of the other family on my family-tree where I cannot > "connect the dots." I've mentioned the WILKINS surname in Maine before, > so I'll just mention that I need to find out if William and Sarah (BANCROFT) > WILKINS from early 1700's MA were the parents of Samuel WILKINS. They > moved to "Maine" ~1780, and Samuel was born in "Maine" ~1780. (Maine > did not become a State until 1820; before that it was the "Northern > Territory of MA.") > > But, I can also mention that one of my aunts has always believed that her > grandfather had a "Native American" ancestor. This would be G. Sanford > KIDDER, b1870 in Princeton, ME, near Calais. I have been researching the > KIDDER's for 15+ years, and I have never found a Native American spouse. > This is for the Maine / New Brunswick border from late 1700's to present. > Sanford's parents were Joseph KIDDER and Clarissa "Clara" WILKINS, and his > grandparents were Joseph "Calvin" KIDDER (aka Calvin) and Mary WILKINS. > So, I've been researching that name for almost as long. And, going back > to Mary's father, Samuel, I still have a major "concrete-block wall" for his > wife. No one knows anything about her; we only know her as Electra > "Leeta" (unknown). Some have suggested that she was a Native American > lady. I have no way to find out. (The possibility exists that she > was.) > > But, going back to the people who I believe are Samuel's parents, I > researched Sarah's father, Robert BANCROFT in very early 1700's MA, and > found out he was possibly a Native American. ~2 years ago I decided to > post a lot of queries about him and wrote a few letters to Historical > Societies. From helpful researchers I found that that Robert "lived > with" the Native Americans in MA, and they called him "Doctor." But, he > was not Native American, and, in fact, one or 2 of his ancestors trace back > to the Mayflower-era. > > This was not what the "WILKINS book" said. I'm saying this from memory > so I can't offer details, but it said that Sarah's father was a Native > American. Adding to the confusion is that the large BANCROFT family > in/near Middleton, MA, where the large WILKINS family was from -- had strong > ties to the "Tribe" near Stoughton, MA. One of Sarah's sisters had a 2nd > marriage to a Native American man. (Information is in archives of > several MA (US) Lists.) > A summary is that the "Bray WILKINS book" had (nee') Sarah BANCROFT with a > Native American parent, but it turned out not to be true. So, the only > one thing I cannot find out is whether (nee') Electra "Leeta" (unknown), > b~1780 "somewhere" was a Native American lady. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > (We cannot find Samuel WILKINS from his birth ~1780 until he shows up as a > married man with kids in Unity, ME, in the 1810 census. One of my > "guesses" is that his mother had died as a result of childbirth, and that > Samuel and his older sister were raised by another family. His father > moved around as a surveyor. So, Samuel and Electra could have been > married "anywhere" - MA or NH, etc.)

Hi again, I can mention one small story. I only knew my great-grandmother, known to me as "Grandma KIDDER," during the last 10? years of her life. My father had moved us into her farmhouse ~1947 and we moved out in 1952, and she died in 1958. So, I only knew her when I was young. So, I've had to learn more about her from my aunt, and another aunt who was her daughter-in-law. * She was born Louise "Lou" RICE and had one sister, Edith, and they seem to have been raised by their grandparents on the HUTCHINSON Farm. I'm told that Edith was the pretty, but studious one, who never married, and that "Lou" was the plainer one, who did marry and have children. And she was the "fun" one who liked to travel around New England. "Lou" married G. Sanford KIDDER in Princeton, ME, she and Edith had probably met him while visiting their RICE uncles and aunts and cousins in Lubec and Eastport, ME. "Sanford" and "Lou" came back to MA and had 3 kids. But, ~1915, when the kids were school-age, Sanford started spending more time in ME than in MA. So, "Lou" was basically a single parent during the 1915-1930's timeframe. But, she still liked to travel around New England, even visiting the KIDDER relatives in the White Mountains of NH. Several summers she took her kids to Cape Cod. They stayed in some campground. And, my aunt has said many times that her grandmother would spend time visiting a Native American lady. And that Native American lady has a "bird" which sat on her shoulders - presumably a parrot. No one knows who that lady was. I hope you're having a pleasant week. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator * "Sanford" and "Lou" KIDDER had a daughter and then 2 sons. The son, Clinton, who was my father's uncle -- married my mother's sister. Think of the family-tree for them. Clinton, Jr., was my father's first-cousin and also my first-cousin. :o) ("Sanford" Jr. was estranged from his siblings and headed out to California in 40's or 50's. In 1958 he was in Riverside, CA, and he died there in the '60's. I tried to find out a little about him, and found out he was married out there to a lady from - Nova Scotia ! I don't believe he had any children, but he had step-children in CA. I have not been able to find out "where" he married - whether back here in New England and they both went to CA, or whether he married in CA. (Some information is in archives of Nova Scotia List.)

Hello, I was just reminded of the other family on my family-tree where I cannot "connect the dots." I've mentioned the WILKINS surname in Maine before, so I'll just mention that I need to find out if William and Sarah (BANCROFT) WILKINS from early 1700's MA were the parents of Samuel WILKINS. They moved to "Maine" ~1780, and Samuel was born in "Maine" ~1780. (Maine did not become a State until 1820; before that it was the "Northern Territory of MA.") But, I can also mention that one of my aunts has always believed that her grandfather had a "Native American" ancestor. This would be G. Sanford KIDDER, b1870 in Princeton, ME, near Calais. I have been researching the KIDDER's for 15+ years, and I have never found a Native American spouse. This is for the Maine / New Brunswick border from late 1700's to present. Sanford's parents were Joseph KIDDER and Clarissa "Clara" WILKINS, and his grandparents were Joseph "Calvin" KIDDER (aka Calvin) and Mary WILKINS. So, I've been researching that name for almost as long. And, going back to Mary's father, Samuel, I still have a major "concrete-block wall" for his wife. No one knows anything about her; we only know her as Electra "Leeta" (unknown). Some have suggested that she was a Native American lady. I have no way to find out. (The possibility exists that she was.) But, going back to the people who I believe are Samuel's parents, I researched Sarah's father, Robert BANCROFT in very early 1700's MA, and found out he was possibly a Native American. ~2 years ago I decided to post a lot of queries about him and wrote a few letters to Historical Societies. From helpful researchers I found that that Robert "lived with" the Native Americans in MA, and they called him "Doctor." But, he was not Native American, and, in fact, one or 2 of his ancestors trace back to the Mayflower-era. This was not what the "WILKINS book" said. I'm saying this from memory so I can't offer details, but it said that Sarah's father was a Native American. Adding to the confusion is that the large BANCROFT family in/near Middleton, MA, where the large WILKINS family was from -- had strong ties to the "Tribe" near Stoughton, MA. One of Sarah's sisters had a 2nd marriage to a Native American man. (Information is in archives of several MA (US) Lists.) A summary is that the "Bray WILKINS book" had (nee') Sarah BANCROFT with a Native American parent, but it turned out not to be true. So, the only one thing I cannot find out is whether (nee') Electra "Leeta" (unknown), b~1780 "somewhere" was a Native American lady. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (We cannot find Samuel WILKINS from his birth ~1780 until he shows up as a married man with kids in Unity, ME, in the 1810 census. One of my "guesses" is that his mother had died as a result of childbirth, and that Samuel and his older sister were raised by another family. His father moved around as a surveyor. So, Samuel and Electra could have been married "anywhere" - MA or NH, etc.)

Try this site: http://www.allthingscherokee.com/ Lauraine > > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > Date: 2009/08/11 Tue AM 01:06:14 CDT > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > Presumably Cherokee. But, I have tried searching for the Cherokee > families, and unfortunately she married a John Smith!!!! Talk about > looking for the one needle in a haystack of identical ones!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of syrnick@mts.net > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:25 AM > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > Do you know which tribe? If so, try googling their name. Many tribes have > really good on-line material. > > Lauraine > > > > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > > Date: 2009/08/09 Sun PM 10:52:33 CDT > > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > > > I never even thought of contacting the tribe! And have no idea how to go > > about doing it..... Do you know how? > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Presumably Cherokee. But, I have tried searching for the Cherokee families, and unfortunately she married a John Smith!!!! Talk about looking for the one needle in a haystack of identical ones!!!! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of syrnick@mts.net Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:25 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches Do you know which tribe? If so, try googling their name. Many tribes have really good on-line material. Lauraine > > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > Date: 2009/08/09 Sun PM 10:52:33 CDT > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > I never even thought of contacting the tribe! And have no idea how to go > about doing it..... Do you know how? When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do that when I run across someone who has a family name, but I cannot place them. I just enter them on a new page, and their names appear in the List right along with the rest of the family with the same name........ IF? I find a way to connect them later, I already have their vital information, perhaps marriage and childen?,,,, and it's easy to just put them together. Otherwise, by the time I locate their proper place, I probably would have lost track of all the data about them. mas -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nmoug Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 5:02 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Near or not so near relative ancestors - wasMyGrandmother's Story? HOORAY !!!! If you were using Family Tree Maker, there is a place on the Tool Bar..... ...click on PEOPLE, then in the Drop-down list, click on.. Add unrelated individual. Your person will be in the index, but not connected to your family until you put in the information needed to connect them or merge them. Good luck Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <syrnick@mts.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Near or not so near relative ancestors - was MyGrandmother's Story? HOORAY !!!! > Adoptees are put into my tree, but there is a place for notes. Iffy - not > sure, but could be relatives - are also put in with a comment and tick for > further research. Comments like "could this be the long lost cousin?" > > As adoptees are not often blood relations, it would be an affront to their > parents to leave hem out of a family tree. They are family in all ways > but blood ties. Know that many will diagree with me. > > Lauraine >> >> From: "faye rees" <fmrees@nycap.rr.com> >> Date: 2009/08/09 Sun AM 09:24:33 CDT >> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Near or not so near relative ancestors - was >> My >> Grandmother's Story? HOORAY !!!! >> >> >> >> One problem, IF I had ever started typing up a data base of my >> ancestors, >> how do you include people who you "think" is an ancestor? :o) >> >> Betty raised an interesting question - how do people deal with these >> folks??? Do you use a separate tree? Hang onto the information on >> paper >> until you find the connections??? Our traditional, for lack of better >> term, >> ancestors or ancestor-relatives include First Lady Lucretia Rudolph, >> Henry >> Morgan, and the Rudolphs of Hapsburg - it could be interesting to track >> their lines and see if an how they connect with those who are known, but >> how >> to do it when using genealogy software? Pain to take them all out if the >> traditions prove wrong....... >> >> So how do you on the list handle these possible tree members? >> Thanks >> faye >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >> find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >> SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there >> is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do an internet search on the tribe. Most tribes have a web site with email or other contact info. deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches >I never even thought of contacting the tribe! And have no idea how to go > about doing it..... Do you know how? > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Bert > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:43 AM > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > Have you tried to contact the tribe? They usually have records. > deb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:44 AM > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > >> Hi, Linda, >> >> My husband's grandmother was a Cherokee from the Pennsylvania area. >> I've >> had very little success locating her family on the Internet, altho there >> are >> a lot of them. She had no "last name," and she married a SMITH...... I >> have found several Smiths who married Indians, but how to tell which >> one???? >> Might be the line to follow? And they traveled from one place to the >> other so much, there are no ways of tracing them. I've hit a real dead >> end >> on that family line. >> >> mas >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Mock >> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:11 AM >> To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches >> >> Hi Listers, >> I recently learned that while hunting for an ancestor, who was "custom" >> married to a German immigrant, then cast out of the marriage w/children, >> her tribe has a hidden custom of when a tribal member dies, that they >> have not existed in life....another words, after their death, nothing >> was mentioned of them again, and as most tribes don't keep written >> records, only the story tellers know about them or their names of Indian >> customs,and great deeds done....Even though my ancestor was a SHAMAN, >> medicine woman of her tribe, as is one daughter....when she died, her >> body was hidden from view...and she was gone from the face of the Earth. >> And even today the secret of her burial place is known by few. I have >> looked for her for almost 10 years with little sucess except for the >> Census records from 1850 this way. Being American Indian, they were >> recorded, differently than the regular Census...ANY WAY, always check >> the tribal customs, so you don't end up spinning your wheels..there is >> lots on the internet about American Indian tribes, but check the locale >> of your ancestor as they variy in what and how they do their customs. >> Good Hunting. >> >> ~Linda~ >> "Loved ones" are your family tree, >> and lifes journey. >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >> find >> it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >> SUBJECT >> from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a >> SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >> find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >> SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there >> is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The site just mailed was for the above. For some reason my eyes didn't see the N.Y. until it was sent. Sorry. Laurainwe

Am looking for an ARCHIBALD family. A James Duncan ARCHIBALD m. Mary Ann SMITH in Lerwick, Shetland in 1887 and seem to have disappeared. Was thinking they may have immigrated somewhere and guessing if they had a son they would name him John Peter SMITH after his two grandfathers. This James Duncan Archibald was born in 1851 so guessing a son born circa 1888 to 1890. Googling the name brought this site: http://www.dcnyhistory.org/bfindex.html I think it might be in Deleware? It has a lot of names so maybe will help someone with their research. Lauraine

Have been into the site.Found who I want but can't see details. What am I missing? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] 1930 census - free at Footnote > Hello, > > I've been busy at home and don't remember whether someone has already > mentioned this. "Footnote" is offering the 1930 census "free" for the > month of August. I signed up and did a search a few days ago, and did > another search for a few minutes ago. I found the census pages I > wanted, > but what I didn't find is a way to print out the pages. Is that not > part > of the "free service" they're offering this month? > > (I look at census pages through my library's HeritageQuest software - > which > is mostly only up to 1920.) > > Also, the messages this morning reminded me that I haven't seen my > MassMoments daily e-mails for several weeks. I'll have to check into > that. > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator

I never even thought of contacting the tribe! And have no idea how to go about doing it..... Do you know how? -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Bert Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:43 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches Have you tried to contact the tribe? They usually have records. deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > Hi, Linda, > > My husband's grandmother was a Cherokee from the Pennsylvania area. I've > had very little success locating her family on the Internet, altho there > are > a lot of them. She had no "last name," and she married a SMITH...... I > have found several Smiths who married Indians, but how to tell which > one???? > Might be the line to follow? And they traveled from one place to the > other so much, there are no ways of tracing them. I've hit a real dead > end > on that family line. > > mas > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Mock > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:11 AM > To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > Hi Listers, > I recently learned that while hunting for an ancestor, who was "custom" > married to a German immigrant, then cast out of the marriage w/children, > her tribe has a hidden custom of when a tribal member dies, that they > have not existed in life....another words, after their death, nothing > was mentioned of them again, and as most tribes don't keep written > records, only the story tellers know about them or their names of Indian > customs,and great deeds done....Even though my ancestor was a SHAMAN, > medicine woman of her tribe, as is one daughter....when she died, her > body was hidden from view...and she was gone from the face of the Earth. > And even today the secret of her burial place is known by few. I have > looked for her for almost 10 years with little sucess except for the > Census records from 1850 this way. Being American Indian, they were > recorded, differently than the regular Census...ANY WAY, always check > the tribal customs, so you don't end up spinning your wheels..there is > lots on the internet about American Indian tribes, but check the locale > of your ancestor as they variy in what and how they do their customs. > Good Hunting. > > ~Linda~ > "Loved ones" are your family tree, > and lifes journey. > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you know which tribe? If so, try googling their name. Many tribes have really good on-line material. Lauraine > > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > Date: 2009/08/09 Sun PM 10:52:33 CDT > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] American Indian searches > > I never even thought of contacting the tribe! And have no idea how to go > about doing it..... Do you know how?

FYI - Also in Family Tree Maker, you can also put the curser on a child, go to "People", the same drop-down menu and click on "other parents". This feature will also allow you to assign adoptive parents and note natural parents as well. We adopted my two cousins and when I pull up my cousin, the two children appear as well as when I click on myself, they appear again. Donna