Hi Charles, You've made some good points, and I can make a comment or 2. The maternal grandmother I've talked about tried to find out who her birth-parents were, and her daughters took on the project. When they no longer looked and I started genealogy 15+ years ago, I too my mother's typed up notes and a certificate or 2. Unfortunately, almost everything my grandmother had heard when she lived with the Adoptive couple for 8-10 years were all "lies." (no bending of the truth) Adding to that, on Mrs. Dexter's death certificate, I thought her mother's name was Lavair CLARK (as written). Years later I found out her full name was Mrs. Rhoda (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK. And on my grandmother's marriage certificate she listed her birth-father was William CLARK, and I have -no- idea who that man was. Was she told that name as a very young child -- or overheard it -- and remembered it for those 10 years in "homes?" The only way I found out about Rhoda was by going to -- the Message Boards. I responded to a message posted 3 years before that and "found" a lady in CT researching Rhoda. She's the lady who just received the old picture of Rhoda (who lived 1800-1883?). Adding to the mystery? I had the Adoption File opened about 5 years ago. It stated that my grandmother's birth-name was Daisy WATROUS. I have -no- idea how that came to be. Adding to that? The only CLARK name I've yet to find is the Adoptive mother's father, James. And, he is one of my "concrete-block walls." I cannot find where he came from, or when he was born, and who his parents were, and whether Mrs. DEXTER had CLARK relatives around her. In regard to Message Boards, I have "found" both step-cousins and "distant cousins" by responding to messages posted 3-4 years before that. Or they have responded to mine. So, I always say, It doesn't matter how old the message is ! I just saw a message yesterday in the archives of a List or Board which was posted in 1998 ! That's 11 years ago ! And that lady was a very important researcher for Lubec, Maine. In fact, her nickname was "Lubec Pat." But, I haven't seen her posting for a couple of years, so she might have "retired." * So, I always recommend - post those queries ! Even post your "thoughts." But, make sure that you state in your query that they are only your - thoughts! I like to use the term, "educated guess." For me that means that I have good information which leads me to think something - but I cannot prove it. But, when you "search" the archives of the Lists and Boards and find something posted 7 years ago, make sure you understand that it was offered as proof - or thoughts. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator (I think I've mentioned before about James. He "appeared" in RI ~1827 and married in nearby MA in 1829 and fathered a daughter there in 1836 and "disappeared" in 1840's. He was probably the James who got on a ship in 1844 which was heading to the Indian Ocean; he "deserted" in Australia. There was also a James who was on a small ship in the St. Lawrence River ~1825. Was he a "travelin' man?") (Or, was he part of a New England CLARK family?) * For the older postings, "the time is now" .. as .. researchers do "pass." So, respond when you have a chance.

Betty, I've been working in Genealogy of my family since the mid-70s. I found out the truth about how easy it was to find all the information you needed on your family. NOT.... You start out with what you hope is a barrel of truths, and find half or more are fables, cover-ups or out-and-out BS After years of cleaning out the chaff, you check the libraries, hoping there is something there to help. You look for an LDS library need you and hunt there. Your relatives seem to be fighting you all the way WHY?. After filling in HALF the information you need, you come to a HUGH BRICK-WALL! Where do you go to knock the BRICK-WALL? The libraries only have the information that a few people have been nice enough to publish. What if your family isn't among those lucky few? Go to a National Archive? Try working through ALL those MEGATONS of information. Your question is: "Do We NEED A " Message Board"? " The answer is YES!!! If you have only a few names to find info on, if you only have a few Lists to keep track of, if you have been working on your Family Tree(s) for a long time, then a list may be all you need. IF, you are just starting, you need all the help you can get. THAT is where the Message Boards come in. They help the newbies catch up with those who have been doing it for a long time and don't mind helping others. The Message Boards are an archive of those questions being asked every day again and again. They are a record of the answers given over and over again. NEWBIES---- check the Message Boards and keep checking them from time to time. BUT, check the lists too. I'm on roughly 150 to 200 lists, BUT also check the lists to. Betty, my vote is YES! We also need Message Boards! Your cousin in Genealogy! Charles aka MajCowboy@aol.com

Well, my 2 cents says both are of great value to a person who is hunting or begining to hunt for a ancestor. But I enjoy the list best, its home base for me generally and there tends to be more input where needed. more ideas afloat an chit-chat about the "better" days. Hard but better. I am a farm brat from the past. ~Linda~ I'm so far behind, I thought I was first!

Betty The message boards are nice - one can start different threads, and see all the posts in that thread.. but they too get a lot of messages like 'thanks' etc. There are some boards that I have made 'favorites' or have set up to have messages sent to me when they are posted.. I also get a list each morning of the posts on those favorite boards. I suppose if someone were to create teh can-usa migration board we'd have that added touch of seeing a string that startes with a post, to which replies are posted year after year - I've seen some started in 2000, and getting reponses even now.. I think that might be the one advantage to a board in addition to the list.. at the same time, I don't know if i would want those messages added to those we already get from the list There are pros and cons to having a board in addition to the list - I am more on the side of no, one is not needed.. but then I think that there may be more input if there is one.. I sure this is really helpful! yes and no! Have a great weekend everyone - those of you on the east coast - batten down the hatches! faye ---- Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I just checked the archives to remind myself of when I started up this List, > and it was 2 1/2 years ago. (It is also when I became an Administrator > for the first time.) It was around that time, or 2 years ago, when > another Administrator volunteered to start-up a Message Board to go along > with the List. I'm pretty sure that Administrator told me that her > request was denied. I didn't want to pursue the idea at the time. > > The other Administrator ended up with health problems at least a year ago, > and was no longer able to participate on the Lists. I finally inquired > about her at the Help Desk as she had been quite active on the Lists in the > past. I found out just last month that the Lists and Boards had to be > given up for adoption (included the Maine List). Since she is no longer > on-line, I can't ask her opinion. > > In regard to Message Boards which are "gatewayed" to the appropriate Lists, > I find the Message Boards important. But, there are varying opinions > about whether a Message Board should be "gatewayed" to a List. I don't > mind it. The main reason is that a List is more active and has more > information in the archives when the postings to the Message Board are also > posted to the List. > > Over the past 8 years, I have found important information for my research - > by going to the Message Boards. Either I post a query and get > informative responses, or I do a search of the archives and "find" > important information. And, I've found that there are many researchers > who do not like to participate on the Lists, and many don't ! So, you > won't find those researchers mentioned in the archives of the Lists. > > (The Message Boards at www.genforum.com have lots of information in > them.) It was probably those Boards where I "met" my step-cousins, > and a few of my "distant cousins.") > > I have never tried being an Administrator of a Message Board, and I'm told > that that job is a little more complicated. So, I'd like to ask if > anyone on this List would be interested in volunteering to do it. But, a > reminder is that -- whoever "requests" that a new Message Board be started > up -- must become its Administrator. > > So, do you think we would have more people participating on this List -- if > we had a Message Board for CAN-USA-MIGRATION -- where the queries posted > there would be gatewayed to this List? > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I just checked the archives to remind myself of when I started up this List, and it was 2 1/2 years ago. (It is also when I became an Administrator for the first time.) It was around that time, or 2 years ago, when another Administrator volunteered to start-up a Message Board to go along with the List. I'm pretty sure that Administrator told me that her request was denied. I didn't want to pursue the idea at the time. The other Administrator ended up with health problems at least a year ago, and was no longer able to participate on the Lists. I finally inquired about her at the Help Desk as she had been quite active on the Lists in the past. I found out just last month that the Lists and Boards had to be given up for adoption (included the Maine List). Since she is no longer on-line, I can't ask her opinion. In regard to Message Boards which are "gatewayed" to the appropriate Lists, I find the Message Boards important. But, there are varying opinions about whether a Message Board should be "gatewayed" to a List. I don't mind it. The main reason is that a List is more active and has more information in the archives when the postings to the Message Board are also posted to the List. Over the past 8 years, I have found important information for my research - by going to the Message Boards. Either I post a query and get informative responses, or I do a search of the archives and "find" important information. And, I've found that there are many researchers who do not like to participate on the Lists, and many don't ! So, you won't find those researchers mentioned in the archives of the Lists. (The Message Boards at www.genforum.com have lots of information in them.) It was probably those Boards where I "met" my step-cousins, and a few of my "distant cousins.") I have never tried being an Administrator of a Message Board, and I'm told that that job is a little more complicated. So, I'd like to ask if anyone on this List would be interested in volunteering to do it. But, a reminder is that -- whoever "requests" that a new Message Board be started up -- must become its Administrator. So, do you think we would have more people participating on this List -- if we had a Message Board for CAN-USA-MIGRATION -- where the queries posted there would be gatewayed to this List? Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator

I also just looked at the list to see if I was very active on it, and I found that not only have I been very active, I also was helped to find valuable information.  It works as is, obviously, and I'm not sure if there would be an advantage of it being a message board.   However, I do tend to go searching on message boards for specific things, names, places, and the like.  I make sure that I watch all the email traffic for this list.  I'm not sure there would be a change needed.  MYRA HERRON Tempus Fugit; Memento Mori  (Time Flies; Remember, you will Die.) Let no one ever say of you, And say it to your shame, That all was always beauty here, that is, until you came. --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> wrote: From: Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Do We Need a "Message Board?" To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 8:16 AM Hello, I just checked the archives to remind myself of when I started up this List, and it was 2 1/2 years ago.    (It is also when I became an Administrator for the first time.)    It was around that time, or 2 years ago, when another Administrator volunteered to start-up a Message Board to go along with the List.    I'm pretty sure that Administrator told me that her request was denied.    I didn't want to pursue the idea at the time. The other Administrator ended up with health problems at least a year ago, and was no longer able to participate on the Lists.    I finally inquired about her at the Help Desk as she had been quite active on the Lists in the past.    I found out just last month that the Lists and Boards had to be given up for adoption  (included the Maine List).     Since she is no longer on-line, I can't ask her opinion. In regard to Message Boards which are "gatewayed" to the appropriate Lists, I find the Message Boards important.    But, there are varying opinions about whether a Message Board should be "gatewayed" to a List.       I don't mind it.   The main reason is that a List is more active and has more information in the archives when the postings to the Message Board are also posted to the List. Over the past 8 years,  I have found important information for my research - by going to the Message Boards.     Either I post a query and get informative responses,  or I do a search of the archives and "find" important information.    And, I've found that there are many researchers who do not like to participate on the Lists, and many don't !     So, you won't find those researchers mentioned in the archives of the Lists. (The Message Boards at    www.genforum.com   have lots of information in them.)       It was probably those Boards where I "met"  my step-cousins, and a few of my "distant cousins.") I have never tried being an Administrator of a Message Board, and I'm told that that job is a little more complicated.     So, I'd like to ask if anyone on this List would be interested in volunteering to do it.   But, a reminder is that -- whoever "requests" that a new Message Board be started up -- must become its Administrator. So, do you think we would have more people participating on this List -- if we had a Message Board for  CAN-USA-MIGRATION -- where the queries posted there would be gatewayed to this List? Betty            (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some Athol directories are at ancestry.com Eva is listed with a death date in the 1958 directory Sweet, Eva, widow of Fred, died February 25, 1958, age 76 In 1954 & 1956 she is listed as Sweet, Eva, widow of Fred, is listed at 382 Wallingford Avenue In 1948 Fred is still living, listed as Sweet, Frederick (M. Eva) carpenter, 68 Chester . So Fred died between 1948 and 1954 I looked for their obituaries or death notices in the Fitchburg Sentinel but I couldn't find anything. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > Wow! Thanks SO much..........I have had no luck finding out anything > about > these people prior to this. Now that I have more names, dates and > locations, I might unearth more...... > > They were another pair of grandparents to my brothers and me when we were > young. Not by birth, but by love. Wonderful, wonderful people. Fred > had > had a heart attack, and wasn't in the best of health. It was also during > the Depression years and no jobs to be had. I remember he did a little > carpenter work. They had erected a "temporary" house on their lot, > expecting to build a bigger and better one later. But with the > depression > and his health, it never happened. > > They had the poorest house in the neighborhood, but the biggest hearts. > EVERYONE flocked to their home, to sit on the wobbly porch in the summer, > or > gather around the little oil burner indoors in the winter. > > I never knew their background, as my family moved out of state when I was > in > high school and they died soon thereafter. Fred died before Eva........ > he > had a bad heart, even when I remember him as a kid. > > Thanks again for helping me with these much-loved people. > > mas

Wow! Thanks SO much..........I have had no luck finding out anything about these people prior to this. Now that I have more names, dates and locations, I might unearth more...... They were another pair of grandparents to my brothers and me when we were young. Not by birth, but by love. Wonderful, wonderful people. Fred had had a heart attack, and wasn't in the best of health. It was also during the Depression years and no jobs to be had. I remember he did a little carpenter work. They had erected a "temporary" house on their lot, expecting to build a bigger and better one later. But with the depression and his health, it never happened. They had the poorest house in the neighborhood, but the biggest hearts. EVERYONE flocked to their home, to sit on the wobbly porch in the summer, or gather around the little oil burner indoors in the winter. I never knew their background, as my family moved out of state when I was in high school and they died soon thereafter. Fred died before Eva........ he had a bad heart, even when I remember him as a kid. Thanks again for helping me with these much-loved people. mas -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Lepore Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:50 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet Hi MA Eva and Fred were married in Athol MA on 26 April 1904 by James W. McGrath, priest Fred's parents were Peter Sweet and Louise Daigle Eva's parents were John Guillot and Leocadie Haines Fred was 22, born in Holden, MA Eva was 21, born in Canada They both have the same occupation - some kind of operative. The word looks like court? I got this information from NEHGS Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> >I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be Americanized > name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was > probably born in Quebec. > > > > Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct > information, > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > MASmith > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/17/09 06:08:00 When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I lived in Athol when I was young......and there were no comb factories there, I am quite certain. Maybe he operated some machine that was abbreviated as "comb?" I'm not sure....but I know they didn't make combs in Athol! The main factories made tools, artificial leather and shoes!!! -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Lepore Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:21 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet Looking at the marriage record again - I think it reads Comb operative. On the same page there were some people who were wallet operatives, and another entry for someone that looked like comb. I guess you would have to find out if there were comb factories in Athol at that time. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > Hi MA > > Eva and Fred were married in Athol MA on 26 April 1904 by James W. > McGrath, priest > > Fred's parents were Peter Sweet and Louise Daigle > Eva's parents were John Guillot and Leocadie Haines > Fred was 22, born in Holden, MA > Eva was 21, born in Canada > They both have the same occupation - some kind of operative. The word > looks like court? > > I got this information from NEHGS > > Lisa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > > >>I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be >>Americanized >> name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was >> probably born in Quebec. >> >> >> >> Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct >> information, >> would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> MASmith When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK!!! You have just told me something I never knew!!! However, they must have gone out of business by the time I was born and lived there....as I don't recall any factories on Hapgood St up by Riverbend. (Which was the name of another street, BTW, not an actual bend in the river..... altho it could have been named that because it followed a bend in the river, come to think of it!!! The town is all built on hills on the banks of the Millers River. On a trip back there several years ago, I noted that many of the factories were gone, and replaced or renovated to make offices. Athol seemed to be more of a "bedroom community" for surrounding cities... not the industrialized center it was when I was little. Thanks again for all your interest and help!!! It really has helped me a lot.. And kind of takes me "back home" again........altho it's been a loooooooooooong time. I moved to Michigan when I was in the ninth grade in Athol. No one at all is left there now that I knew. My own family all left soon after we did, and the friends have all gone, as well. At least, as I knew them. If they have any kids or grandkids, I'd never know them!!! Now that my own grandparents and relatives have died, we just never go back. But, the memories linger on...... and especially with wonderful old friends like the Sweets. Who really were more like family to us. I never knew that Mrs. Sweet had more children than those who were living and whom I remember. But according to the internet and some websites, etc. she did. I only remember her as a very very SWEET lady, in all ways. They were poor as can be, as he suffered a heart attack, and one of their sons was crippled.....but they always had room for one or two more at the dinner table! Mrs. Sweet was an "ample" woman, and she was known for her ability to rock any crying baby to sleep. In fact, after I had moved to Michigan, married and had my first baby, we went back one time to visit grandparents, and spent an evening playing cards with the Sweets' daughter & husband, and Mrs. Sweet rocked my crying baby to sleep.... She still had the talent and the love. Sorry to go on with this so long, but these people just have a special place in my heart, and that is why I decided to add them to my genealogy......as they really were "relatives" to us. mas -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Lepore Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:36 AM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet In 1904 there was the Joseph Wilcox & Co. Comb Factory in Athol located at Hapgood near Riverbend >From the 1920 directory - Joseph Wilcox, Inc. Manufacturers of Celluloid Hair Ornaments and Novelties Athol Mass. By 1906 there was another comb mfgr - Athol Comb, but in 1904, when they were married, there was only Wilcox listed as a Comb company Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet > Looking at the marriage record again - I think it > reads Comb operative. > > On the same page there were some people who were > wallet operatives, and another entry for someone that > looked like comb. > > I guess you would have to find out if there were comb > factories in Athol at that time. > > Lisa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > > >> Hi MA >> >> Eva and Fred were married in Athol MA on 26 April 1904 by James W. >> McGrath, priest >> >> Fred's parents were Peter Sweet and Louise Daigle >> Eva's parents were John Guillot and Leocadie Haines >> Fred was 22, born in Holden, MA >> Eva was 21, born in Canada >> They both have the same occupation - some kind of operative. The word >> looks like court? >> >> I got this information from NEHGS >> >> Lisa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> >> >> >>>I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be >>>Americanized >>> name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was >>> probably born in Quebec. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct >>> information, >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> MASmith > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2312 - Release Date: 08/18/09 18:05:00 When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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In 1904 there was the Joseph Wilcox & Co. Comb Factory in Athol located at Hapgood near Riverbend >From the 1920 directory - Joseph Wilcox, Inc. Manufacturers of Celluloid Hair Ornaments and Novelties Athol Mass. By 1906 there was another comb mfgr - Athol Comb, but in 1904, when they were married, there was only Wilcox listed as a Comb company Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet > Looking at the marriage record again - I think it > reads Comb operative. > > On the same page there were some people who were > wallet operatives, and another entry for someone that > looked like comb. > > I guess you would have to find out if there were comb > factories in Athol at that time. > > Lisa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > > >> Hi MA >> >> Eva and Fred were married in Athol MA on 26 April 1904 by James W. >> McGrath, priest >> >> Fred's parents were Peter Sweet and Louise Daigle >> Eva's parents were John Guillot and Leocadie Haines >> Fred was 22, born in Holden, MA >> Eva was 21, born in Canada >> They both have the same occupation - some kind of operative. The word >> looks like court? >> >> I got this information from NEHGS >> >> Lisa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> >> >> >>>I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be >>>Americanized >>> name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was >>> probably born in Quebec. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct >>> information, >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> MASmith > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2312 - Release Date: 08/18/09 18:05:00

Looking at the marriage record again - I think it reads Comb operative. On the same page there were some people who were wallet operatives, and another entry for someone that looked like comb. I guess you would have to find out if there were comb factories in Athol at that time. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> > Hi MA > > Eva and Fred were married in Athol MA on 26 April 1904 by James W. > McGrath, priest > > Fred's parents were Peter Sweet and Louise Daigle > Eva's parents were John Guillot and Leocadie Haines > Fred was 22, born in Holden, MA > Eva was 21, born in Canada > They both have the same occupation - some kind of operative. The word > looks like court? > > I got this information from NEHGS > > Lisa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > > >>I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be >>Americanized >> name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was >> probably born in Quebec. >> >> >> >> Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct >> information, >> would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> MASmith

Florence Elmira was born 20 November 1904 to Fred & Eva Guillot. Birth records only go up to 1910, so i can't find the others from the 1920 census to see if it is the same family. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Good morning, > > I went to see if Fred and Eva were in MA in 1920, and they were: > > SWEET, FRED (1920 U.S. Census) > MASSACHUSETTS , WORCESTER, ATHOL > Age: 39, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: MA > Series: T625 Roll: 744 Page: 101 > > Note that Fred was born in MA and Eva M. was born in Canada. Fred's > parents were born in French Canada, and so were Eva's. It says that Eva > immigrated in 1902. Fred was a carpenter. > > They had a daughter, Florence A., 15, born in MA, and she worked as a box > maker in a toy shop. Then there was a daughter, Alice E., 11, and > Blanche? O., 8, and a son, Joseph F., 6, and a daughter, Marion P., 1. > Then they had 3 nieces living with them, I can't read the first name; > it's > something that looks like Renee AYOTT, 21, Blanche AYOTT, 20, and Alice > AYOTT, 13, all born in MA, as were their parents. > > I checked and the family is in Athol in 1910: > > SWEET, FRED (1910 U.S. Census) > MASSACHUSETTS , WORCESTER, ATHOL > Age: 29, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: MA > Series: T624 Roll: 627 Page: 34 > > There is a slight difference in children mentioned: Florence, > , --Eli, > 3--, and Alice, baby. -- I don't see Fred in Athol in 1900; there > are > a few SWEETS, but I'm not seeing a Canadian connection. > > FYI: There were 74 Fred SWEET's in the US in 1920. (That doesn't > include the Frederick SWEET's.) > > The GUILLET name shows up 18 times in MA in 1920. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:57 PM > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet > > >>I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be >>Americanized >> name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was >> probably born in Quebec. > >> >> MASmith >

Betty Have you posted those gravestone pictures on http://www.findagrave.com That's where everyone can post photos of old stones, and it's very simple. Even this old techno-tard can do it! Then they can be seen by everyone. Who knows. Somebody just might post a picture that YOU have been wanting! Nancy Find-a-grave Volunteer #46778169 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:33 AM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Gravestones, 1700's vs. 1800's > Hello, > > Last year I had a little more time to visit little graveyards within an > hour's drive of my home, and I took some pictures. I have some from > Littleton, MA, which were taken in the autumn and turned out to be nice > pictures. (one-time-use camera) > > I have found out that in MA in the 1600's, those gravestones would have long > since disappeared. In the Boston to Lowell area, you would be very lucky > to find a stone for someone from born 1700-1720. My KIDDER ancestor and > his 2 brothers left Chelmsford, MA, and went to New Ipswich, NH, as it was > being founded (late 1700's), and I've read that their gravestones are > nowhere to be found. That doesn't seem right to me. The brother, > Reuben KIDDER, was rich, a well-known man in the State, a large land-owner, > etc., and I can't believe that there wasn't an important gravesite for him > ! > > I'm told that in Billerica and Chelmsford (both founded 1655), many stones > in "family plots" - meaning "on" the family's land, disappeared - one way or > another. As more people came to the towns, more houses had to be built. > Some graves would have been moved, but we can only guess what happened to > others. > > In contrast, I've visited Gloucester, MA, and they have much more "old > graveyards" than towns do near Lowell, MA. A good guess is that many of > the gravestones were for fishermen and sailors, etc., because that's where > they lived. But, why did those graveyards last much longer than ones "in > land?" I've never had a chance to visit one of the old graveyards > (hubby doesn't like to browse). But, in the fall, maybe I'll drive there > myself and poke around. > > Regarding the stones, I read someplace that the reason why there were > different kinds of stones - depending on which decade or year - was that the > material used for the gravestones - was needed during "war time." So, > people had to come up with other material to build the stones with. > > Was different kinds of material used in gravestones in Canada? > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator > > > P.S. There is a booklet which tells about the "Forefather's Burial > Ground" in Chelmsford, MA. I drive by it often ! > > Oh, that reminds me, it is one of many, old graveyards in New England which > were created on the grounds of a church. The above graveyard backs up to > the historic church in Chelmsford Center. I've seen an old graveyard in > Townsend, MA, which not only backs up to an historic church in the Center > but some of the stones - lay against the church building. > >

I found Eva's birth record in the Drouin records at ancestry.ca I'll send the docs to you directly. I don't remember if you read french or not, so: Baptism #170 St-Romuald D'Etchemin, Lévis, Quebec 23 December 1881 our priest of this parish who signed below, baptised Marie Eva Guillot born three days earlier of the legitimate marriage of Jean Guillot, day laborer and Leocadie Hains of this parish. The godfather was Leon Joncas and the godmother was Felicite Cadoret who were not able to sign. The father was absent. Reading complete. The priest signed, but I can't read his name. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet >I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be Americanized > name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was > probably born in Quebec. > > > > Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct > information, > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > MASmith

Hi MA Eva and Fred were married in Athol MA on 26 April 1904 by James W. McGrath, priest Fred's parents were Peter Sweet and Louise Daigle Eva's parents were John Guillot and Leocadie Haines Fred was 22, born in Holden, MA Eva was 21, born in Canada They both have the same occupation - some kind of operative. The word looks like court? I got this information from NEHGS Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> >I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be Americanized > name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was > probably born in Quebec. > > > > Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct > information, > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > MASmith > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2309 - Release Date: 08/17/09 06:08:00

I see you are researching the KIDDER family, too? I went to school with a Ralph KIDDER in Athol.... in the very early grades. And I honestly don't know anything else about him, as to the size of his family, if he had siblings, etc. As I recall, he had dark, curly hair....

While searching in Wisconsin for my SIMPSON family, ran across this 1890 wedding announcement that some of you may enjoy reading: http://files.usgwarchives.net/wi/winnebago/vitals/marriages/bradley-harlow.txt It is interesting to note the distances some of the guests travelled to attend. Lauraine

Good morning, I went to see if Fred and Eva were in MA in 1920, and they were: SWEET, FRED (1920 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , WORCESTER, ATHOL Age: 39, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: MA Series: T625 Roll: 744 Page: 101 Note that Fred was born in MA and Eva M. was born in Canada. Fred's parents were born in French Canada, and so were Eva's. It says that Eva immigrated in 1902. Fred was a carpenter. They had a daughter, Florence A., 15, born in MA, and she worked as a box maker in a toy shop. Then there was a daughter, Alice E., 11, and Blanche? O., 8, and a son, Joseph F., 6, and a daughter, Marion P., 1. Then they had 3 nieces living with them, I can't read the first name; it's something that looks like Renee AYOTT, 21, Blanche AYOTT, 20, and Alice AYOTT, 13, all born in MA, as were their parents. I checked and the family is in Athol in 1910: SWEET, FRED (1910 U.S. Census) MASSACHUSETTS , WORCESTER, ATHOL Age: 29, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: MA Series: T624 Roll: 627 Page: 34 There is a slight difference in children mentioned: Florence, 5, --Eli, 3--, and Alice, baby. -- I don't see Fred in Athol in 1900; there are a few SWEETS, but I'm not seeing a Canadian connection. FYI: There were 74 Fred SWEET's in the US in 1920. (That doesn't include the Frederick SWEET's.) The GUILLET name shows up 18 times in MA in 1920. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet >I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be Americanized > name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was > probably born in Quebec. > > MASmith

Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't thought about Acadia.....altho I should have, as one of my ancestors originated there.. -----Original Message----- From: can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-usa-migration-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of syrnick@mts.net Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:29 PM To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet Taking a look at GUILLET surname, it looks the earliest (1626) may have been an Acadian. Quite a few tree on line for this name: http://www.thenavarres.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I15380&tree=Nava rreAndrus For more just google the surname + genealogy. Lots of info which might lead to interesting research. Lauraine > > From: "MASmith" <momsmith@fnwusers.com> > Date: 2009/08/17 Mon PM 01:57:13 CDT > To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Guillet m Sweet > > I am looking for an Eva Guillet who married Fred Sweet (may be Americanized > name), who resided in Athol, MA in the 1940-1950's. This couple was > probably born in Quebec. > > > > Any help you could give me as to where to search, if not direct information, > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > MASmith > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message