Hello, I wanted to let you know that I haven't had time to learn more about the inner-workings of Message Boards. But, it's on my to-do-list. So, I won't make a decision on whether to request one to accompany this List for a few more weeks. But, something was said a few weeks ago that I wanted to comment on. When I first went on-line ~8 years ago, and started subscribing to the Lists, I had to learn about the inner-workings of the Lists. One thing I had to learn was what happened when a message from the appropriate Message Board was "gatewayed" to the List. I found out later that I missed a lot of messages because I had misunderstood something. I tried to find an example of what I'm talking about this morning, but didn't succeed. What I had misunderstood was that, when I saw a message from a Message Board appearing on a Mailing List, and the only thing it said was "Thank you," I thought that was the message. It took me a little while to find out that was -not- the message; that I had to go to the Message Board to find the actual message. While I was going through all the e-mails early yesterday morning, the majority being List Digests, I was reminded that there are 2 ways that a message from a Board goes to the List. One is where the entire Message arrives on the List. The other is where just the "link" to the Message Board arrives, and you have to go to it to read the message. (It only says, Thank you.) That is one of the things which I need to learn about. Why there are 2 ways for a Board message to be sent to a List. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator P.S. We will be heading to a "wake" this afternoon. It's a sad story about a young wife and mother who was killed in a car accident. It's also a complicated story. But, I wanted to mention that it is an example of a person living in one place, but being - someplace else - and dying unexpectedly. The person's family was totally not prepared for handling "last arrangements" and had to go find a place for the burial - not in the town where the person lived. I just read an obituary in "The Lowell Sun" (MA/US) last week about a man in his 40's who had lived in many states in the US after he graduated from college, and had also lived in England for a while. He had only married about 7 years ago and had a young son, and they had moved to the Lowell area. They decided to go spend some time with his wife's family in Maine. They wanted to do some sailing. While there, he died unexpectedly. I don't recall where he was laid to rest, but there would have been several choices.

Hello, The subject of the "Butterbox Babies" in a "home" in Nova Scotia in the 1920's has been brought up on the "British Home Children" List. I did a search for the term and found a description of the actual "home" and events on this site: http://www.canadiancrc.com/Butterbox_babies.aspx I haven't finished reading it, yet, but I did notice that the couple "sold" some of the babies and some went to couples in NJ (US). Also, part of the discussion on the BHC List is about the teen-age girls who were arriving in Canada "got pregnant" and how they were treated and dealt with. www.rootsweb.com Mailing List INDEX As part of the discussion, I mentioned that many teen-age girls - anywhere - did not survive pregnancy and childbirth. I mentioned my KIDDER gr-gr-grandfather who had an older brother who lived along the Maine / New Brunswick border in the mid-1800's. He had 5 children with his first wife, and then had a son with his 2nd wife. They were from Calais, Maine, but the 1881 census had the family living on Deer Island, New Brunswick. His teen-age daughter "got pregnant" and at Age 16 she "died in childbirth." The baby survived and was probably raised by the birth-father's family. A few months later, John had his 7th child, a little girl. So, during 1881, John's daughter, Henrietta, died during childbirth, and he had his 7th child, a little girl, named Henrietta. So, he had a daughter and a granddaughter born within months of each other (on that island). Also, there is a whole lot of information on the above web site. On quick look, the organization only deals with - children living in Canada now. But, we sure wish they would at least mention the "British Home Children" - or even the descendants of the "home children." http://www.canadiancrc.com/ http://www.britishhomechildren.org/ Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator

Hi Lauraine, There are many trades from the 1800's and early 1900's, in both the U.K. and North America that I'm not familiar with. Up until Age 9, I lived on small farms, and then we moved to a house in the next town. My father's only trade was that, after serving in WW II, he became an appliance repairman, and was a backyard mechanic. Later he went to college nights and got an office job. But, on that one small farm we lived with my father's grandmother and his disabled uncle. As a 9-year-old, he had a terrible accident. He ran in front of a 5-ton truck and it ran over his leg. He lost it. I don't know when he learned how to build / create "artificial limbs," but he started making his own. Probably, when I was 10 or 11, my aunt would take my sister and I (and her young son) into Downtown Boston to visit her husband. He was working in a little shop on the 2nd floor of a building on Bromfield Street. In the 1950's, the "artificial limbs" were made of -- wood and leather. And, I can still remember the aroma of the wood and leather being worked on - in that shop ! I don't know if my cousin has any pictures of his father's "artificial leg." (full leg) But, his father lived into the 1980's and was buried with his "leg." Even though he had built it, it was part of him. I don't remember if I've told this story before. But, when my sister and I were pre-schoolers and living in that farmhouse, our great-uncle would spend a lot of time with us. And, when we wanted to sit on his lap, we would go over and "knock" on each leg -- to see which leg we wanted to sit on ! :o) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator P.S. My father's uncle married my mother's sister, so they were both my uncle and aunt and my great-uncle and great-aunt. And their son was both my father's first-cousin and my first-cousin. P.S.2 Slightly off-topic is a story on the news yesterday. A man with .2. "artificial hands" went into a bank and wanted to cash a check. He didn't have an account in that bank and the teller "insisted" that he had to provide them with a "fingerprint." He insisted on talking to the Manager - who also insisted that he need to be "fingerprinted." I know "artificial limbs" have - come a long way ! But ... ----- Original Message ----- From: <syrnick@mts.net> To: <can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Trades > While scannig through some old apprenticelists for Edinburgh, Scotland saw > two trades that puzzled me > > 1. Currier > 2. Cordinor > > Had always thought Currier was somthing to do with horses or printing but > looked it up so am sharing these definitions with the list: > > 1. http://www.maybole.org/home/pettit/currier.htm > > 2.http://www.standrewschurch.btinternet.co.uk/cordiner_Trade.htm > Lauraine > > >

While scannig through some old apprenticelists for Edinburgh, Scotland saw two trades that puzzled me 1. Currier 2. Cordinor Had always thought Currier was somthing to do with horses or printing but looked it up so am sharing these definitions with the list: 1. http://www.maybole.org/home/pettit/currier.htm 2.http://www.standrewschurch.btinternet.co.uk/cordiner_Trade.htm Would never have got the second meaning and am wondering if it only applied to Scotland. Lauraine

Thanks very much Harriett, I think your Genealogy Association call is the best place to start. I live in mid-coast Maine so NH is not a big drive Vic From: Harriet Cady [mailto:kd4318@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:03 AM To: vtaylor@tpointsolutions.com; can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Subject: R: NH Genealogy Rooms Hi Vic, I don't know where you would be driving from but the State Library on Park St. in Concord also has the Keene history and in both places the books have been reprinted so there are new and old versions which I checked and the new was only a copy of the old. I saw the name Clark in the records I was reading which were only certain pages because i was looking for my specific names. I believe the name Clark was associated with the setting up of a sawmill and bank. But then that's from memory. You can call the Exeter Library, 603-772-3101 or the state 603-271-2144 just ask for genealogy person and ask if they would look in the keene history book for the name you are searchiing. They have ben good about checking when I have called the state but I have never called Exeter. The Rockingham Genealogy Assoc. meets on one Sat. a month in Exeter Library so maybe get on the email list and ask someone if they would look for you. Hope this helps. Harriet --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Vic Taylor <vtaylor@tpointsolutions.com> wrote: From: Vic Taylor <vtaylor@tpointsolutions.com> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] NH Genealogy Rooms To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 5:00 AM Hello Harriet, I saw your post on Exeter and other genealogy rooms. I have been searching for the Adam Clark family who had many children in Plainfield, Cheshire, NH in the early 1800's. They then moved to Rives, Jackson, Michigan and married into my Taylor family. My question has to do with official Plainfield records. Because Cheshire County become Sullivan County the town records are now stored where the Sullivan records are in Keene, New Hampshire. I wonder if you have had a chance to look at the depository in Keene and if you can tell me whether it is in good shape or not before I drive over there. I have looked at the secondary records collected later in a survey but they are not complete for Cheshire. Indeed, they do not look very complete for anywhere to my eye. Thanks, Vic When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc843.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@root sweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Vic, I don't know where you would be driving from but the State Library on Park St. in Concord also has the Keene history and in both places the books have been reprinted so there are new and old versions which I checked and the new was only a copy of the old.  I saw the name Clark in the records I was reading which were only certain pages because i was looking for  my specific names. I believe the name Clark was associated with the setting up of a sawmill and bank. But then that's from memory. You can call the Exeter Library, 603-772-3101 or the state 603-271-2144 just ask for genealogy person and ask if they would look in the keene history book for the name you are searchiing.  They have ben good about checking when I have called the state but I have never called Exeter.  The Rockingham Genealogy Assoc. meets on one Sat. a month in Exeter Library so maybe get on the email list and ask someone if they would look for you. Hope this helps. Harriet     --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Vic Taylor <vtaylor@tpointsolutions.com> wrote: From: Vic Taylor <vtaylor@tpointsolutions.com> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] NH Genealogy Rooms To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 5:00 AM Hello Harriet, I saw your post on Exeter and other genealogy rooms. I have been searching for the Adam Clark family who had many children in Plainfield, Cheshire, NH in the early 1800's. They then moved to Rives, Jackson, Michigan and married into my Taylor family. My question has to do with official Plainfield records. Because Cheshire County become Sullivan County the town records are now stored where the Sullivan records are in Keene, New Hampshire. I wonder if you have had a chance to look at the depository in Keene and if you can tell me whether it is in good shape or not before I drive over there. I have looked at the secondary records collected later in a survey but they are not complete for Cheshire. Indeed, they do not look very complete for anywhere to my eye. Thanks, Vic When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Harriet, I saw your post on Exeter and other genealogy rooms. I have been searching for the Adam Clark family who had many children in Plainfield, Cheshire, NH in the early 1800's. They then moved to Rives, Jackson, Michigan and married into my Taylor family. My question has to do with official Plainfield records. Because Cheshire County become Sullivan County the town records are now stored where the Sullivan records are in Keene, New Hampshire. I wonder if you have had a chance to look at the depository in Keene and if you can tell me whether it is in good shape or not before I drive over there. I have looked at the secondary records collected later in a survey but they are not complete for Cheshire. Indeed, they do not look very complete for anywhere to my eye. Thanks, Vic

Stumbled upon this site with information on New Orleans Archives. http://www.nutrias.org/~nopl/inv/invlist.htm Lauraine

I was at the Exeter, NH Library Genealogy Room yestrday still looking for My silas Hefflon and Polly Knapp.  They have so many town histories that it is easy to look u p names. Interestingly found so many names I have seen queried in the Walpole, Sutton and Keene town histories. One was Briggs and since I have seen it here thought I would mention it. I know the Wrights, Knapps and Hefflons are somehow connected but can't sem to make the connection. Anyone near might want to use them. Harriet --- On Sat, 9/5/09, syrnick@mts.net <syrnick@mts.net> wrote: From: syrnick@mts.net <syrnick@mts.net> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] New Orleans To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 7:43 PM Stumbled upon this site with information on New Orleans Archives. http://www.nutrias.org/~nopl/inv/invlist.htm Lauraine When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Spotted this today: http://www.explorenorth.com/library/ya/bl8y.htm Lauraine

Hello, I don't know how many researchers on this List have an ancestor who was a "home child." And, if you do, whether or not you are on the "British Home Children" List. But, I have heard about a book, "Yesterday's Naughty Children," because of the BHC List and the Liverpool, England, List. I found out it is not really available to US residents, so I requested it from my library. I picked it up yesterday. The full name of this book is: "Yesterday's Naughty Children. Training Ship, Girls' Reformatory and Farm School. A History of the Liverpool Reformatory Association, founded in 1855. I was surprised to see it was a small book, but it's about 120 pages of very detailed information. If anyone wants to know what life was like for the children in Liverpool, England, especially in the "poor" neighborhoods, in the 1850 to 1890 timeframe, you might want to look at this book. The pictures alone will disturb you. The first part of the book is devoted to the lives of the hundreds of boys who were sent to live on the "Akbar Reform Ship" which sat in the River Mersey. The boys were not allowed to go live there unless they were healthy and strong. One thing? They were required to bathe once a week - "in" the River Mersey - no matter the weather ! As I've mentioned before, my great-grandmother, Mary Elizabeth CORKILL, b1860 Liverpool, and her 4 younger siblings, were born and raised in Liverpool. They, and their older brother, Edward, lost their mother ~1872, and their father was a Master Mariner who seemingly was hardly ever home. In ~1872, Edward was sent to live on the Akbar Reform Ship. In 1873, he made his way to Vancouver, B.C. I don't know whether the officials on the Akbar got a job for him on a "sailing ship," or whether his father made arrangements for him to get to Canada. In 1873, his uncle, John CORKILL, sent the 5 younger children to live in the Liverpool Sheltering Homes. It had just opened. The 4 youngest were sent to Canada in 1874. The youngest were 2 boys, Ages 5 and 3. Mary had misbehaved and the officials wouldn't allow her to go with her siblings. She had to "plead" to be allowed to join them in 1875. All 5 went to different families in Nova Scotia. -- The other book which I have requested from my local library is, I'm told, one of the best books on the history of the "home children," starts out with the title, "The Golden Bridge ......" It was written by Marj Kohli in Canada. In New England, I'm finding out that some of the larger Universities have some of the books I'm interested in. Enjoy -- September ! Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator

Hi All, I'm researching the Oregon Trail also, but from the APPLEGAE TRAIL from Nevada into CA. But there is a very good map online at <htpp://www.tngenweb.org/tnletters/usa-west.htm> A map of early Western migration trails. Its a great site by the Tennasee Gen Web. Has lots of info. Good Hunting. My search: DUZEL, Gustav /1850. ~Linda~ I'm so far behind, I thought I was first!

Several years ago, actually saw the start of the Oregon Trail in Nebraska. One could faintly see the wagon ruts. Here is a list of some people who died on the trail in 1852. This must have been a very difficult way to travel west. http://www.sfgenealogy.com/californiabound/cb007.htm This information is listed as copy write, but it should be okay to go through the names as it was offered on a free site. Lauraine

Thanks for the info sounds good other than the hefty price tag.  Joyce --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Myra Herron <woodseyowllover@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Myra Herron <woodseyowllover@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Spanish Flu Epidemic To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 3:28 AM If they claim it cures everything between warts and polio, then we know it's good old snake oil.  If it does have medicinal properties, I'd certainly rather have it tested before I bought any at that price!  That adds up to a grand total of over $295 a pound.  That's $295.00!  MYRA HERRON Tempus Fugit; Memento Mori  (Time Flies; Remember, you will Die.) Let no one ever say of you, And say it to your shame, That all was always beauty here, that is, until you came. --- On Sat, 8/29/09, syrnick@mts.net <syrnick@mts.net> wrote: From: syrnick@mts.net <syrnick@mts.net> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Spanish Flu Epidemic To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 9:29 PM Like many others, I subscribe to My Trees and received a blurb today with info on the Spanish Flu in reply to another edition which annoyed me as it seemed to be against any flu vaccinations.  Great strides in using sterile needles, vaccines, etc. have been made since 1918! Anyway they sent me something more and am giving the URL as the piece is an interesting bit of history around Native medicine.  The Indians used things like willow bark (which we get aspirin from and many other herbs and plants which led to many of our present day medicines. http://www.kindredkonnections.com/Indian-Influenza-Remedy.html Lauraine When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Like many others, I subscribe to My Trees and received a blurb today with info on the Spanish Flu in reply to another edition which annoyed me as it seemed to be against any flu vaccinations. Great strides in using sterile needles, vaccines, etc. have been made since 1918! Anyway they sent me something more and am giving the URL as the piece is an interesting bit of history around Native medicine. The Indians used things like willow bark (which we get aspirin from and many other herbs and plants which led to many of our present day medicines. http://www.kindredkonnections.com/Indian-Influenza-Remedy.html Lauraine

If they claim it cures everything between warts and polio, then we know it's good old snake oil.  If it does have medicinal properties, I'd certainly rather have it tested before I bought any at that price!  That adds up to a grand total of over $295 a pound.  That's $295.00!  MYRA HERRON Tempus Fugit; Memento Mori  (Time Flies; Remember, you will Die.) Let no one ever say of you, And say it to your shame, That all was always beauty here, that is, until you came. --- On Sat, 8/29/09, syrnick@mts.net <syrnick@mts.net> wrote: From: syrnick@mts.net <syrnick@mts.net> Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Spanish Flu Epidemic To: can-usa-migration@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 9:29 PM Like many others, I subscribe to My Trees and received a blurb today with info on the Spanish Flu in reply to another edition which annoyed me as it seemed to be against any flu vaccinations.  Great strides in using sterile needles, vaccines, etc. have been made since 1918! Anyway they sent me something more and am giving the URL as the piece is an interesting bit of history around Native medicine.  The Indians used things like willow bark (which we get aspirin from and many other herbs and plants which led to many of our present day medicines. http://www.kindredkonnections.com/Indian-Influenza-Remedy.html Lauraine When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-USA-MIGRATION-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are struggling to put together the names of the children of Abram Marsh Hatfield (Tusket, NS 1802) and Mary Cook. There seem to be about 14 kids, Jones b 1827, Mary, Deborah, Zilpha, John Forman who died in infancy, John Forman who lived 21 years, Harriet, Enos, Janet, Lucetta, Lucinda, Adelaide, and Charles who was born 1852 in Mass. We think two of them, Deborah and Janet, may have used the more familiar names of Dora and Jennie - or there else these are four people, as some people list them. The family seemed to have moved to Beverly Mass sometime between Adelaide and Charles, although some of the children's census records say they came in 1840, some 1846. Jones (although some list him as Abram Jones) and his wife Abigail J Allen were parents of my great grandmother, Eliza Breck b about 1853 by census but according to the Beverly records was born Jan 1851. She married George E Morgan in Beverly Mass. She had a younger brother John F. But we have found listings of children John, Forman, and a boy Elizar Breek born 1852. There is, in the interment papers for the Hatfield plot in Beverly and Elijah buried at 11 months on Dec 20, 1852. Has anyone researched this family? Can anyone shed any light on them? I thank you in advance Faye

http://www.acadian-roots.com/census-1871-beresford.html

Know this has been discussed previously. On todays Mass Moments is something about the flu epidemic: http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=249 I know that my G. Grandmother Hird died in 1918 from this flu. She was sick less than a week when she succumbed. Lauraine

John MAY was married to Dorothy HAINER 5 of Aug 1802 in Niagara, Upper Canada. He and his brother were loyalists. John died in either 8th of November or December 1812 from illness. It is known that Dorothy received a war widows pension. The date of John MAY's death is being questioned. My family stated it was December 8 and Archives Canada shows it as 8th of November 1812. Can anyone advise how this might be verified for accuracy? Lauraine