On 9 Sep 2008 at 9:54, D Clark wrote: > continued. What I am trying to determine is where they > lived in Canada, where their port of entry into Canada from > Ireland was and where they came from in Ireland. So, I'm > attempting to find sources for immigration ports in the year > 1831 or thereabouts. If you'd have any suggestions or > information on that segment of the research I'd be most > appreciative. > > Dawna For a list of all Canadian ports in 1830s (and other years) see http://www.thegenealogyspot.com/ShipsLists-Online/ Scroll down the page to "Finding Passengers on Ships Lists to Canada" and there is alist of ports. You can click on whichever ones are of interest to you Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected]

Hello again Dawna, I'm not an expert on the Irish immigration, but I thought that these immigrants to St. Lawrence County had landed in Montreal (or Grosse Ile, where there is now an Irish memorial, down river from Waddington between Montreal and Quebec City) and then moved up river to St. Lawrence County. There should be a group in Canton that specialises in the Irish Immigration. Mary

Hi Al, The Burns family that I am researching is from Waddington, NY. William and family came across from Canada c.a. 1839. I have quite a bit of information on the children mainly the one son, Barney, from whom the branch I am interested in has continued. What I am trying to determine is where they lived in Canada, where their port of entry into Canada from Ireland was and where they came from in Ireland. So, I'm attempting to find sources for immigration ports in the year 1831 or thereabouts. If you'd have any suggestions or information on that segment of the research I'd be most appreciative. Thanks! Dawna Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALBERT BURNS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:27 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] BYRNES/BURNS of Ireland and Canada > Dawna and Mary, > My BYRNES/BURNS family heritage runs a similar parallel to yours. My > G G Grandfather, Thomas Byrnes was in Lismore, Waterford c. 1790. He m. > Mary O'Brien. Their children: Mary b.1812; William ab. 1814; Elizabeth b. > 1815; Catherine b 1817 and Ellen b. 1819. > William m. Joanna Sullivan of Cork 1841 in Halifax, NS. Their children > were: Mary Byrnes b 1842; Anara (Sp.?) b. 1846; (My Grandfather) Thomas > b.1852 (The family name changes to BURNS with Thomas' christening.) and > John b.(?). > My Grandfather Thomas m. Mary Ann WILSON of England daughter of William > WILSON and Mary HYNES. Marriage 1879, Halifax, NS. > Children of Thomas and Mary Ann: William Hubert b. 1879, John James b. > 1882. > Grandparents and William and my Father, John came to Massachusetts and > are buried in Massachusetts. > I have lost track of my G Grandparents and their siblings although I > have much information on addiitional contacts. > Regards, > Al Burns > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mary, The Burns family that I am researching is from Waddington. William and family came across from Canada c.a. 1839. I have quite a bit of information on the children mainly the one son, Barney, from whom the branch I am interested in has continued. What I am trying to determine is where they lived in Canada, where their port of entry into Canada from Ireland was and where they came from in Ireland. So, I'm attempting to find sources for immigration ports in the year 1831 or thereabouts. I am originally from Norwood, NY but now live in FL. My daughter is married to a Burns and the family runs a trucking business out of Canton, NY. I'm doing the genealogy for my granddaughter who I hope will ultimately be interested in her ancestors! Thanks for your help. Dawna Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Mary Coates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Burns/Rourke St. Lawrence County NY > Hi Dawna, > > > > I imagine that they are buried in the old Catholic Cemetery which is > behind > the Dalton family barn! I'm not sure what you are looking for. There are > census records for 1840, 1850, 1860 for St. Lawrence County. > > > > As well, there are 2 O'Rourk's the records: > > > > > O'Rourke, John > > m1 > > Aug. 17, 1851 > > Hogansburg > > Mary Donovan > > > > > O'Rourke, Mary > > m1 > > Feb. 24, 1852 > > Hogansburg > > Thomas Flaherty > > > > > > There are still lots of Burns families and Rourke families in > Waddington/Madrid NY. > > > > I might suggest that you contact the historical society in Massena NY as > they have quite a few active members. As well, the county historical group > in Canton NY might have more. If you are in the St. Lawrence County area. > I > would suggest using the records at the County Court House, land and wills > as > often they will tell you many interesting things about where your family > lived and who they left their belongings to. > > > > I will forward your note to one of the Dalton's and see if they have any > more cemetery info. > > > > Mary > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dawna, I imagine that they are buried in the old Catholic Cemetery which is behind the Dalton family barn! I'm not sure what you are looking for. There are census records for 1840, 1850, 1860 for St. Lawrence County. As well, there are 2 O'Rourk's the records: O'Rourke, John m1 Aug. 17, 1851 Hogansburg Mary Donovan O'Rourke, Mary m1 Feb. 24, 1852 Hogansburg Thomas Flaherty There are still lots of Burns families and Rourke families in Waddington/Madrid NY. I might suggest that you contact the historical society in Massena NY as they have quite a few active members. As well, the county historical group in Canton NY might have more. If you are in the St. Lawrence County area. I would suggest using the records at the County Court House, land and wills as often they will tell you many interesting things about where your family lived and who they left their belongings to. I will forward your note to one of the Dalton's and see if they have any more cemetery info. Mary

Dawna and Mary, My BYRNES/BURNS family heritage runs a similar parallel to yours. My G G Grandfather, Thomas Byrnes was in Lismore, Waterford c. 1790. He m. Mary O'Brien. Their children: Mary b.1812; William ab. 1814; Elizabeth b. 1815; Catherine b 1817 and Ellen b. 1819. William m. Joanna Sullivan of Cork 1841 in Halifax, NS. Their children were: Mary Byrnes b 1842; Anara (Sp.?) b. 1846; (My Grandfather) Thomas b.1852 (The family name changes to BURNS with Thomas' christening.) and John b.(?). My Grandfather Thomas m. Mary Ann WILSON of England daughter of William WILSON and Mary HYNES. Marriage 1879, Halifax, NS. Children of Thomas and Mary Ann: William Hubert b. 1879, John James b. 1882. Grandparents and William and my Father, John came to Massachusetts and are buried in Massachusetts. I have lost track of my G Grandparents and their siblings although I have much information on addiitional contacts. Regards, Al Burns

Thanks, Mary. None seem to match with my group tho. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Mary Coates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Burns, St. Lawrence Co, NY > These Burns' are in the St. Patrick Records in St. Lawrence County. > > > > > Burns, Elizabeth > > m1 > > Feb. 9, 1846 > > Hogansburg > > John Quinn > > he was from St. Anicet PQ, she was from Hogansburg > > > Burns, Hannora > > b2 > > May 7, 1836 > > Malone > > James Burns Sally Cook > > born Apr. 15, 1836 and lived in Malone. Her parents were still there in > 1860 > > > Burns, James > > b1 > > June 13, 1852 > > Massena > > Michael Burns Mary Callahan(?) > > born May 1, 1852. Mother's last name could be Culleton or several others > > > Burns, Joanna > > b1 > > Feb. 10, 1849 > > Hogansburg > > Nicholas Lister > > both were from Brasher. He was 28 and she was 25 yrs old > > > Burns, Levi > > b1 > > Jul. 22, 1852 > > Massena > > Thomas Burns Christiana Bonheur(?) > > born Sep. 22, 1851 > > > Burns, Mary > > m1 > > Feb. 25, 1854 > > Hogansburg > > Jeremiah Desmond > > . > > > Burns, Nancy > > m2 > > Aug. 5, 1826 > > Bombay > > Thomas Egan > > he was the son of John Egan and Bridget Chenigan(?), she was the daughter > of > John Burns and Julia Durn. Both were from Bombay > > > Burns, Patrick > > m1 > > Jan. 29, 1853 > > Hogansburg > > Anne Lynch > > . > > > > > > Mary Frego Coates > > [email protected] > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mary, Thanks for your response to my query! William's (who was born c.a. 1798 in Ireland) spouse's name was Nancy (aka Anne) O'Rourke. Her given names seemed to be used interchangeably......which helps a great deal with the confusion! William is buried in Waddington and I have yet to find his wife. Their nine children are: William who may have been born in either Ireland or Canada, Alice who may have been born in either Ireland or Canada, James born 1832 in Canada, Mary Anne 1834 Canada, Thomas 1836 Canada and Barney 1838 Canada. The remaining three children were all born in New York State....Edward, Michael and Franklin/Francis. In about 1839 when they came from Canada I'm uncertain if there were any records kept. It would be interesting to find that out. Dawna Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod & Mary Coates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Burnes/ Byrnes > Dawna, > > Do you have the names of the wife and children? There are more William > Burnes (Byrnes) on the Ontario side of the St. Lawrence, too. > > Mary Frego Coates > [email protected] > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dawna, Do you have the names of the wife and children? There are more William Burnes (Byrnes) on the Ontario side of the St. Lawrence, too. Mary Frego Coates [email protected]

These Burns' are in the St. Patrick Records in St. Lawrence County. Burns, Elizabeth m1 Feb. 9, 1846 Hogansburg John Quinn he was from St. Anicet PQ, she was from Hogansburg Burns, Hannora b2 May 7, 1836 Malone James Burns Sally Cook born Apr. 15, 1836 and lived in Malone. Her parents were still there in 1860 Burns, James b1 June 13, 1852 Massena Michael Burns Mary Callahan(?) born May 1, 1852. Mother's last name could be Culleton or several others Burns, Joanna b1 Feb. 10, 1849 Hogansburg Nicholas Lister both were from Brasher. He was 28 and she was 25 yrs old Burns, Levi b1 Jul. 22, 1852 Massena Thomas Burns Christiana Bonheur(?) born Sep. 22, 1851 Burns, Mary m1 Feb. 25, 1854 Hogansburg Jeremiah Desmond . Burns, Nancy m2 Aug. 5, 1826 Bombay Thomas Egan he was the son of John Egan and Bridget Chenigan(?), she was the daughter of John Burns and Julia Durn. Both were from Bombay Burns, Patrick m1 Jan. 29, 1853 Hogansburg Anne Lynch . Mary Frego Coates [email protected]

Hi, Here is a brief paragraph from this gents bio. " A NATIVE OF NOVA SCOTIA, HE WAS BORN ON THE 24TH OF JANUARY, 1825, AND WAS BROUGHT TO THE UNITED STATES BY HIS PARENTS WHEN BUT A LAD OF SEVEN (7) SUMMERS. HE WAS THEN REARED ON A FARM IN OHIO, AND IN 1850, WHEN TWENTY-FIVE(25) YEARS OF AGE, HE CROSSED THE PLAINS TO CALIFORNIA, ARRIVING IN THIS STATE ON THE 17TH OF SEPTEMBER." There is no mention of parents or siblings in this bio. ~Linda~ Friends are stitched together by patches of memories.

William Burns and his family immigrated from Canada into New York State (St. Lawrence County) in approximately 1839. Initially, they arrived in Canada from Ireland in about 1831. I would be very interested in any information on resources available for researching a family like this. Thanking everyone in advance for help with this situation. Dawna Clark

Lauraine!!! Thank you!!! I for one think it very thoughtful of you to submit links to sites like these, as well as other 'newsworthy' sites.. Although I haven't had much time to read it yet I found the one regarding women's voting rights fascinating.. This for New England towns looks as though it will be helpful too ! Some of those that get sent don't hold much interest for me but I do appreciate checking them out and learning more! Have a good one, and again thanks faye ---- Lauraine Syrnick <[email protected]> wrote: > Was looking over some of my WHITTIER family and noted some were in Massachussetts Some time ago, stumbled onto this site and saved it. Please let me know if any of you find this sort of post useful: > > http://www.dunhamwilcox.net/0_twn-his.htm > > Some history is given for those towns I have looked at. > > Lauraine > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Linda, Just wanted to say I wish everyone would take note of how you post with the Surname in the subject line.? You have a much better chance of someone actually reading your inquiry.? I delete most all post if I do not see a name.? Have a Happy Day !!!! -----Original Message----- From: Linda Mock <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:24 am Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surname: McKENZIE/1856 Hi Listers, I have a bio for a person, last name of McKENZIE, George Simon,<Sheriff>Napa,CA), b: 17, June 1856, Picton Island, Nova Scotia, Canada. Parents were MURDOCK McKENZIE(D:1886) and NANCY GUNN ~Linda~ Friends are stitched together by patches of memories. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are so right. I had an uncle,name Crawford who went & was a very successful mule skinner --I am told. Thanks for your work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] posting of bio's > Hi Listers, > Have been posting many Canadian bio's as i find them to your > list...hopeing to help another in their quest.....am AMAZED to see how > many of them were born early 1800's and how they migrated to California, > by hook or crook, to seek the "yellow metal" and found nothing but a > great deal of hardship and near starvation. And then through sheer > determination found another way of life....Many had a "home' skill of a > parent to fall back on and many did, but then moved up into the business > world and California's history. > Many of these folks, arrived here with nothing, and died Millionairs! > Sheer luck, no I don't think so. A lot of sweat and dirt all the way to > the top...Many ended up, a long way from their orgins.... > Sure wished the kids of today had this much incentive to make this a > better World....at my 68 yrs, its their turn to make it. > I have nothing but admiration for my ancestors and the changes they made > that made our world so great! > > ~Linda~ > Friends are stitched together by patches of memories.

hmm I have Caldwell relatives but I don't think they've done any research. They were in Ohio and WestVA tho and now in GA cindy On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Linda Mock <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > I have a bio for a person, last name of CALDWELL, John, < Judge > > Eureka, Humboldt co.,CA) b; 24, January 1825, Nova Scotia, Canada (805) > m: 1870, no mention of a wifes name, but that she died 20, March, 1896, > no children. > > ~Linda~ > Friends are stitched together by patches of memories. > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is > a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Cindyp http://grammiesbears.com http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen

And now in CA, as I have a line of them. Will share. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Phillips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surname: CALDWELL/1825 > hmm I have Caldwell relatives but I don't think they've done any research. > They were in Ohio and WestVA tho and now in GA > > cindy > > On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Linda Mock <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> I have a bio for a person, last name of CALDWELL, John, < Judge > >> Eureka, Humboldt co.,CA) b; 24, January 1825, Nova Scotia, Canada (805) >> m: 1870, no mention of a wifes name, but that she died 20, March, 1896, >> no children. >> >> ~Linda~ >> Friends are stitched together by patches of memories. >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >> find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >> SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there >> is >> a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Cindyp > > http://grammiesbears.com > http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu > http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips > http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now that am old enough and no longer intimidated by the internet or posters......want to share something with all of you...:) About 10-15 years ago, a gal from the above surname and I met up on the internet and she was newly landed into Canada's east coast.....so we discussed some and had to let her know that surname had landed here much further back then what it is she was working on, but we still haven't figured out how she relates to me but am also of the surname BREMNER as well....:) In the meantime, there was a cousin who was in California who visited Alberta over the years and always was looking for his aunt Mary......anyways to make a long long story short.......wasn't looking that far south when originally on the net.....so knowing he was elderly, called him and we discussed together.....was he ever pleased when he realized his aunt Mary was in fact my great grand mother.....while discussing with him, he had a slight state side accent to his words while am sure being as am bilingual must of sounded a wee bit odd to him as well, but we talked and discussed and was able to explain how it was he'd been so close to finding her children but had been steered south within the province while her children were north of where it was he kept looking.....anyways, he's since passed away and haven't heard from any of his children......his surname was McINTYRE. Since, there is a McIntyre on the news and every time hear him, wonder if per chance he might not be one of his.....but you know how we've only all have 24 hrs in our days, well as yet haven't taken the time to call him and ask if per chance he may not be related to me......one day, hopefully will do so, but in the meantime..... It's impossible to do everyone's genealogy, so am hoping far more within the many surnames it is am from, are all being worked on by another and another and another of the cousins, cause at least that way, for more will eventually know more then we all did when we first found each other on the net with email but not knowing who else had one? an address am meaning? since then have had to change mine 5 times due to changes in internet providers, systems....etc..... Remember sitting here thinking, now what good is that to me? (big grin) nowadays, it's mmmmm, that address should recognize, but have met so many, starting to not remember who is who? That's the beauty of all of this way of being able to touch and find each other......done in a discuss mode, works great, done in a debate mode.....never respond, just move on, cause sure don't have time to veer from what it is started many many years ago now!....:) Am looking forward to continuing this late fall as right now as you will all understand, this plate in front of me is just to darn full! Am working at make some r00m!.....:))) Keep Well, Keep Working Together, Keep Smiling and Laughing cause it doesn't cost a thing and often makes me smile and am sure it does everyone who needs a break and see's the humongous strides and links being made by so many not within the lines one often is working, but those which it is that are inclusive within all of the surnamed family links? Gotta go now, Paulette

Thanks Lauraine, took a quick look see and notice all those links cover most of North America.....so will revisit it as soon as have more time....... Attenting a big 70 today, so must get ready to be there so won't miss out on some cake? :))) Keep Well and Keep Posting, cause it's the only way we all have to being able to discuss together! Life's like that, so Thanks to the internet and genealogy.....we'll have our spare time this winter all eaten up already, huh? :)) Toujours=Always, Paulette

Hello, If anyone has an ancestor in MA and you found the name of a town, which is not a current town, you might be interested in this list of "unincorporated towns" or "villages within a town" in MA / US. http://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/cisuno/unoidx.htm I don't know if the other New England State web sites have a similar list. This is a page which lists all the towns and cities "in the Commonwealth." http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=mg2terminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=State%20Government&L2=Local%20Government&sid=massgov2&b=terminalcontent&f=cc_landing&csid=massgov2 There is a lot of information on the www.mass.gov site if you want to browse around it. Since I mentioned "the Commonwealth of Massachusetts," here is a page describing why we are called that -- and not the State of Massachusetts: http://www.mass.gov/lib/facts/commonwealth.htm Have a pleasant weekend ! Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator