I am not sure what that indicates maybe born at sea between Canada and Ireland. Ire is short form fro Ireland. I do not see the connection to Halton County Ontario other than like many other counties in Ontario it received many Irish Immigrants in that year and adjacent years. regards Garth At 11:42 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote: >Hi all. If someone born in 1836 says on a census that they were born in >"Canada-Ire", where would that be? My guess would be the Halton County, >Ontario area. Any other ideas? > > > >Thanks - Donna > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > >To search the archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >The information page is: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all. If someone born in 1836 says on a census that they were born in "Canada-Ire", where would that be? My guess would be the Halton County, Ontario area. Any other ideas? Thanks - Donna

Hi Maggie: Missed seeing the information about England shipping potatoes abroad. Personally think that is false, but if anyone has something to support the idea would be interested in see the site to investigate. Can see a few seed potatoes being shipped to the colonies, but not enough to cause a famine. However, the Corn Laws did further the famine and its deadly course. There is no doubt the famine was caused by the potato blight. Ireland simply didn't have enough land for all its people and for people who lived on the subsistance edge, the blight resulted in famine. Most people do not realize just how unjust the tenant/land ownership relationship was back then. The clearances in Scotland were devasting and to this days in some areas where cruel lairds ruled, mention of the Laird raises hackles. In the early 1700's, a similar system of land ownership existed in North America. A few in the King's favour had large plantations with a steady supply of debentures and slaves. Many of debentures were Scottish and less well treated than the slaves. Through the Revolution and hard work, ordinary men came to own land which really resulted in the push westward. Most of the Palatines who arrived in 1709/1710 were under indentures for their passage. Modern agricultural practices were perhaps introduced to further the industrial revolution and force people to work in factories by enclosures, clearances, etc. Agriculture became less important than commerce. You might find this sight of interest regarding some of the history: http://www.umbc.edu/history/CHE/techerpages/indrev.html My great uncles worked on factory floors in Scotland at age 13, common in Scotland where there was a sort of compulsory education system until about 12 years. Child labor was quite common in North America too. After the Revolution, the Canadian colonies had little choice but to offer land grants to loyalists, immigrants, etc. Failure would have seen these people move or support the U.S. It was not only the Americans who benefitted from the Revolution, but also the Canadians in a round about fashion. The ownership of property by the common man was most unusual in Europe. Personally think that any history on how our ancestors lived is genealogy, but there will be some who disagree. Found your comments very interesting. Lauraine (Canada) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Grosse Ile and potatoes > Hi Laurine, > > It was a quotation from a website talking about quarantine stations in an > earlier post - and while the website doubtless just threw those few words > in, I > felt I couldn't let them pass as they are so misleading. The words were: > > " > > A shortage of >> potatoes occurred because the British exported their potatoes leaving >> millions of Irish to starve to death. > > " > I'm not trying to say the British landowners were saints: they were driven > by self-interest as all human beings are. And sometimes self-interest got > the > upper hand. The blight surely caused the famine. You might find some > Americans > who have knowledge of the suffering the same blight caused there too, in > the > years before 1840 if my memory serves correctly, and the Americans had > wholly different political systems and wealth distribution from Ireland. > > There was a separate problem of land reform, which as you say was being > carried out across the whole of the UK, and which created a condition in > which > the blight's economic effects were more quickly turned to disaster because > in > trying to get a more efficient use of land, there was a move generally to > concentrations of one usage in any one area. So it was exaggerated. But I > find it > hard to blame agricultural modernisers for trying to make more efficient > use > of land. > > Yes, there were Poor Law Unions in Ireland which acted exactly the way the > Poor Laws were enacted in England via the parishes. One major difference > was > that because of the poorer quality of the land in Ireland, it had always > been a > poorer country to start with. In both countries (I can't really speak for > Scotland) the Parish or the Union raised a kind of local tax to pay for > relief > to the poor. And when suddenly local wealth or income dried up, so did > their > funds. > > The assisted passages were, as far as I know, at the discretion of the > individual landowner: a man who wanted to move smallholders off his land > in order > to change its use to cattle-grazing would have considered it - and I hope > would have preferred it to forcing people to become landless, though I > know both > happened. And the clergy? I don't know - but if they saw it as a way to > solve > their flock's endemic poverty, who could blame them if they pushed > emigration? > > What annoys me is the way the Famine has been hijacked to enhance modern > political points of view as a form of propaganda. It was a disaster. But > it was > in origin a natural disaster, compounded by many factors, rather than a > demonstration of the evils of colonialisation. If anyone's interested, > the > Wikipedia article at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Irish_Famine_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Irish_Famine) is quite good and > readable. > > Sorry to sound off about it: no-one can blame Canada after all! :) and > maybe > it's not appropriate on this list. If so, apologies to all. > > best wishes > Maggie , please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laurine, It was a quotation from a website talking about quarantine stations in an earlier post - and while the website doubtless just threw those few words in, I felt I couldn't let them pass as they are so misleading. The words were: " A shortage of > potatoes occurred because the British exported their potatoes leaving > millions of Irish to starve to death. " I'm not trying to say the British landowners were saints: they were driven by self-interest as all human beings are. And sometimes self-interest got the upper hand. The blight surely caused the famine. You might find some Americans who have knowledge of the suffering the same blight caused there too, in the years before 1840 if my memory serves correctly, and the Americans had wholly different political systems and wealth distribution from Ireland. There was a separate problem of land reform, which as you say was being carried out across the whole of the UK, and which created a condition in which the blight's economic effects were more quickly turned to disaster because in trying to get a more efficient use of land, there was a move generally to concentrations of one usage in any one area. So it was exaggerated. But I find it hard to blame agricultural modernisers for trying to make more efficient use of land. Yes, there were Poor Law Unions in Ireland which acted exactly the way the Poor Laws were enacted in England via the parishes. One major difference was that because of the poorer quality of the land in Ireland, it had always been a poorer country to start with. In both countries (I can't really speak for Scotland) the Parish or the Union raised a kind of local tax to pay for relief to the poor. And when suddenly local wealth or income dried up, so did their funds. The assisted passages were, as far as I know, at the discretion of the individual landowner: a man who wanted to move smallholders off his land in order to change its use to cattle-grazing would have considered it - and I hope would have preferred it to forcing people to become landless, though I know both happened. And the clergy? I don't know - but if they saw it as a way to solve their flock's endemic poverty, who could blame them if they pushed emigration? What annoys me is the way the Famine has been hijacked to enhance modern political points of view as a form of propaganda. It was a disaster. But it was in origin a natural disaster, compounded by many factors, rather than a demonstration of the evils of colonialisation. If anyone's interested, the Wikipedia article at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Irish_Famine_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Irish_Famine) is quite good and readable. Sorry to sound off about it: no-one can blame Canada after all! :) and maybe it's not appropriate on this list. If so, apologies to all. best wishes Maggie Are you saying there was no potato blight or was that someone else? My understanding was the blight that with the corn laws caused famine. However, what is often missed is the landowners desire to get the tenants off their farms by increasing rents so high, they could not pay. Doubt there is anyone who wouldn't say the English land owners closed the commons in England, the farms in Ireland and the crofts in Scotland for their own profit. The Aristocrats and Parishes in both England and Scotland encouraged mass immigration at one point using assisted passages. My knowledge of what happened in Ireland is limited to not if there was assisted passages there. Keep in mind that the closures of the Commons in England made many English peasants as desperate as the Scottish & Irish clearances. In Scotland and England there were Poor Laws which had Parishes responsible to some extent for their poor. The clergy in the parishes encouraged by their wealthy land owners pushed immigration. Was this true in Ireland as well? So far have not read anything about the British exporting potatos as they were rotting in the fields. Lauraine

The late Muriel Davidson, administrator of the Simcoe List and one of those involved in getting the 1911 Cdn. census released helped to make http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/ possible. Muriel also had a website about Nova Scotia at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~downhome/ This may have been posted by Muriel earlier but her Granddaughter has been doing some updating and there is just so much cross border information in the site, felt it should be mentioned again. Lauraine In every conceivable manner, the family is link to our past, bridge to our future....Alex Haley

Hi Maggie: Are you saying there was no potato blight or was that someone else? My understanding was the blight that with the corn laws caused famine. However, what is often missed is the landowners desire to get the tenants off their farms by increasing rents so high, they could not pay. Doubt there is anyone who wouldn't say the English land owners closed the commons in England, the farms in Ireland and the crofts in Scotland for their own profit. The Aristocrats and Parishes in both England and Scotland encouraged mass immigration at one point using assisted passages. My knowledge of what happened in Ireland is limited to not if there was assisted passages there. Keep in mind that the closures of the Commons in England made many English peasants as desperate as the Scottish & Irish clearances. In Scotland and England there were Poor Laws which had Parishes responsible to some extent for their poor. The clergy in the parishes encouraged by their wealthy land owners pushed immigration. Was this true in Ireland as well? So far have not read anything about the British exporting potatos as they were rotting in the fields. Lauraine ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Grosse Ile and potatoes > > Talk about rewriting history! > > A shortage of > potatoes occurred because the British exported their potatoes leaving > millions of Irish to starve to death. > > > > A shortage occurred because, as in America too, there had been successive > waves of potato blight, bringing reduced crops for a number of years. > Blight > destroys the potato tuber itself and then the plant. It reached a peak in > Ireland around the 1840s, and no-one in the world knew how to stop it. > Large > numbers of Irish farmers were by then totally dependent on the crop for > both food > and trade. > > The British were faced with the same problem the UN faces today when there > is a famine: do you supply massive aid and kill off any hope of indigenous > farming keeping its head above water, or do you try to provide new work so > that > the people can earn enough to buy some other food? Remember even posing > that > question requires a degree of hindsight. The British had neither the > experience of the UN nor its resources: they started with the latter > option, but were > supplemented by various charitable bodies in England who thought the > first > option was more appropriate. But neither approach had the resources or > technology to prevent the huge numbers of deaths: remember too this was a > part of > Britain and the nation saw it as a British tragedy as much as an Irish > one. > > I lost ancestors in the famine. They were poor tenant farmers in > Roscommon. > The surviving remnants of my family scattered to various parts of > America, > and it's only now we are re-establishing family links. It was a disaster, > true > enough, but certainly not one caused by the British exporting totally > inedible potatoes! > > cheers > Maggie > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Talk about rewriting history! A shortage of potatoes occurred because the British exported their potatoes leaving millions of Irish to starve to death. A shortage occurred because, as in America too, there had been successive waves of potato blight, bringing reduced crops for a number of years. Blight destroys the potato tuber itself and then the plant. It reached a peak in Ireland around the 1840s, and no-one in the world knew how to stop it. Large numbers of Irish farmers were by then totally dependent on the crop for both food and trade. The British were faced with the same problem the UN faces today when there is a famine: do you supply massive aid and kill off any hope of indigenous farming keeping its head above water, or do you try to provide new work so that the people can earn enough to buy some other food? Remember even posing that question requires a degree of hindsight. The British had neither the experience of the UN nor its resources: they started with the latter option, but were supplemented by various charitable bodies in England who thought the first option was more appropriate. But neither approach had the resources or technology to prevent the huge numbers of deaths: remember too this was a part of Britain and the nation saw it as a British tragedy as much as an Irish one. I lost ancestors in the famine. They were poor tenant farmers in Roscommon. The surviving remnants of my family scattered to various parts of America, and it's only now we are re-establishing family links. It was a disaster, true enough, but certainly not one caused by the British exporting totally inedible potatoes! cheers Maggie

Thank you Harriet. Not sure if any of my Whittiers were in N.H. as they seemed to have been in Mass. & then moved along to Maine. Supposedly all the Whittiers in N. America descend from one chap. Many studies have been down on the family and a book was written on its genealogy in 1930's. Have not expanded my research too much other than the direct lines. Know someone who seems to be a one name study and she puts most of her information on Roots World Connect. Thanks again. Lauraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Cady" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:17 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] WHITTIER Hi Laurine, Thought I would tell you there is a Whittier Road in Deerfield, NH and maybe a small graveyard. Our library has a boo of graveyards and families in Deerfield. Harriet Was looking over some of my WHITTIER family and noted some were in Massachussetts Some time ago, stumbled onto this site and saved it. Please let me know if any of you find this sort of post useful: http://www.dunhamwilcox.net/0_twn-his.htm Some history is given for those towns I have looked at. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laurine, Thought I would tell you there is a Whittier Road in Deerfield, NH and maybe a small graveyard.  Our library has a boo of graveyards and families in Deerfield. Harriet Was looking over some of my WHITTIER family and noted some were in Massachussetts  Some time ago, stumbled onto this site and saved it.  Please let me know if any of you find this sort of post useful: http://www.dunhamwilcox.net/0_twn-his.htm Some history is given for those towns I have looked at. Lauraine When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List,  I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !!    Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are more quarantine stations in Canada than these but to answer your question directly try the following: websites. As is indicated below there may not be any records at all. < http://www.newirelandnb.ca/Irish-Trail-Quarantine-Stations/Hospital-Island .html > Shrouded in mist and mystery is a tiny island, less than three acres in size, sitting in the north-east section of Passamaquoddy Bay, three and one half nautical miles from the port of St. Andrews. Just west of Hardwood Island, it was originally called Little Hardwood Island; later, Quarantine Island, and Hospital Island. In 1832 it was chosen as the site of a quarantine station and cholera hospital to serve Charlotte County, part of a province-wide attempt by government to control the importation of infectious diseases, particularly cholera, an epidemic which was then raging in Europe. AND < http://www.tourismsaintjohn.com/files/fuse.cfm?section=13&screen=186 > Partridge Island was the first quarantine station in Canada and as such is a National and Provincial Historic Site. First used as a quarantine station as early as 1785, it received its largest influx of immigrants in the 1840s during the Great Famine in Ireland (the "Potato Famine"). A shortage of potatoes occurred because the British exported their potatoes leaving millions of Irish to starve to death. During this time period over 4,500 sick people were cared for on the Island. The hospitals could only accommodate 200 people. The island had no source of fresh water and had to get it from the mainland. Dr. Collins, the practicing doctor on the island, died of typhus in 1847. There is no record of those who died or were buried there. The cemeteries on the island were consecrated in 1925. Reburial of remains took place in August 1988 in St. Mary's Cemetery on Loch Lomond Road. Gordon in Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faye Sent: September 10, 2008 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Grosse Ile Would anyone know of any sort of a place like this for folks coming to the Maritime provinces? And if so where might now be any records from then? I am looking for my gr gr grandparents who seem to have come to Nova Scotia sometime between when they were born in the mid to late 1820s and their marriage in 1851. I can find no information about them prior to that marriage. I believe they came from England - they were Samuel Rudolph and Mary Boyd/Boid(unless it was Samuel Rudolph and Mary Walters.. sigh) thanks faye ---- Garth Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > Grosse Ile is located down river or east from Quebec City and all > ships inbound to ports on the St Lawrence had to call here first for > health clearance from early 1800's to 1937. Those ships with ill > passengers had to disembark and stay here until quarantine period was > over before moving on. When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks!!! Lauraine!! I will check them out.. Looks like there is a lot of new (to me) information on both sites! Have a good one.. faye ---- Lauraine Syrnick <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Faye: > > Have you tried: http://nsgna.ednet.ns.ca/ and also try: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/index.html#DATABASES > > Lauraine (Smith) Syrnick > > In every conceivable manner, the family is link to our past, bridge to our > future.....Alex Haley > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, What group in Canton would specialize in the Irish immigration? Dawna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Hamilton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Grosse Ile > Grosse Ile is located down river or east from Quebec City and all > ships inbound to ports on the St Lawrence had to call here first for > health clearance from early 1800's to 1937. Those ships with ill > passengers had to disembark and stay here until quarantine period was > over before moving on. > For reference look on south shore of St Lawrence river between Quebec > City and Rimouski and look for Montmagny to the east and Berthier Sur > Mer across from Isle D'Orlean in the west. Grose Isle is the second > island to the east of Isle D'Orlean on north side of river on the > main shipping channel. > Lat and Long 47 degrees 01 minutes and 42 seconds N and 70 degrees > 40 minutes and 15 seconds W. > One of the ferry services to the island in the summer is located in > Berthier Sur Mer. > Maybe more than you needed to know but for those interested here is > where to find it. > > regards Garth > > At 10:47 AM 9/9/2008, you wrote: >>Hello again Dawna, >> >>I'm not an expert on the Irish immigration, but I thought that these >>immigrants to St. Lawrence County had landed in Montreal (or Grosse Ile, >>where there is now an Irish memorial, down river from Waddington between >>Montreal and Quebec City) and then moved up river to St. Lawrence County. >> >>There should be a group in Canton that specialises in the Irish >>Immigration. >> >>Mary >> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this >> List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering >> to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to >> !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >>To search the archives: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >>The information page is: >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Faye: Have you tried: http://nsgna.ednet.ns.ca/ and also try: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canns/index.html#DATABASES Lauraine (Smith) Syrnick In every conceivable manner, the family is link to our past, bridge to our future.....Alex Haley

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Would anyone know of any sort of a place like this for folks coming to the Maritime provinces? And if so where might now be any records from then? I am looking for my gr gr grandparents who seem to have come to Nova Scotia sometime between when they were born in the mid to late 1820s and their marriage in 1851. I can find no information about them prior to that marriage. I believe they came from England - they were Samuel Rudolph and Mary Boyd/Boid(unless it was Samuel Rudolph and Mary Walters.. sigh) thanks faye ---- Garth Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > Grosse Ile is located down river or east from Quebec City and all > ships inbound to ports on the St Lawrence had to call here first for > health clearance from early 1800's to 1937. Those ships with ill > passengers had to disembark and stay here until quarantine period was > over before moving on.

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Grosse Ile is located down river or east from Quebec City and all ships inbound to ports on the St Lawrence had to call here first for health clearance from early 1800's to 1937. Those ships with ill passengers had to disembark and stay here until quarantine period was over before moving on. For reference look on south shore of St Lawrence river between Quebec City and Rimouski and look for Montmagny to the east and Berthier Sur Mer across from Isle D'Orlean in the west. Grose Isle is the second island to the east of Isle D'Orlean on north side of river on the main shipping channel. Lat and Long 47 degrees 01 minutes and 42 seconds N and 70 degrees 40 minutes and 15 seconds W. One of the ferry services to the island in the summer is located in Berthier Sur Mer. Maybe more than you needed to know but for those interested here is where to find it. regards Garth At 10:47 AM 9/9/2008, you wrote: >Hello again Dawna, > >I'm not an expert on the Irish immigration, but I thought that these >immigrants to St. Lawrence County had landed in Montreal (or Grosse Ile, >where there is now an Irish memorial, down river from Waddington between >Montreal and Quebec City) and then moved up river to St. Lawrence County. > >There should be a group in Canton that specialises in the Irish Immigration. > >Mary > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > >To search the archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >The information page is: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Lorine: Do you have any idea what the "Ipsward Medical School" means when shown opposite someone's names in these records. Thanks. Lauraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olive Tree Genealogy" <[email protected]> To: "D Clark" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] BYRNES/BURNS of Ireland and Canada > > > On 9 Sep 2008 at 9:54, D Clark wrote: > > >> continued. What I am trying to determine is where they >> lived in Canada, where their port of entry into Canada from >> Ireland was and where they came from in Ireland. So, I'm >> attempting to find sources for immigration ports in the year >> 1831 or thereabouts. If you'd have any suggestions or >> information on that segment of the research I'd be most >> appreciative. >> >> > > Dawna > > For a list of all Canadian ports in 1830s (and other years) > see http://www.thegenealogyspot.com/ShipsLists-Online/ > > Scroll down the page to "Finding Passengers on Ships Lists > to Canada" and there is alist of ports. You can click on > whichever ones are of interest to you > > Lorine > > > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > > * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ > * Naturalization Records > http://naturalizationrecords.com/ > * Images of Ships Lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > > [email protected] or [email protected] > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >