I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure would like to see this listing. Seems to me it would be not only an interesting part of our history, but also I'd like to know if any of *my* people were among them. Might shed some light on some brick walls. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALBERT BURNS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] List of Loyalists > Good people, > I have come what purports to be legislation decreeing the expulsion of > "Loyalists". This instrument contains a rather expansive list of those > whoe are decreed to be removed. > I'll be happy to send it to the list if it is appropriate or desirable. > Regards, > Al

Good people, I have come what purports to be legislation decreeing the expulsion of "Loyalists". This instrument contains a rather expansive list of those whoe are decreed to be removed. I'll be happy to send it to the list if it is appropriate or desirable. Regards, Al

That is possible. Health care is different between the provinces and so are the family laws. ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.C." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "'Myra Herron'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:03 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Ottawa & Hull - BROWN family > Hey Myra, Just to confuse thing further, maybe the kids were born in > Ottawa > [per marriage record], but baptized across the canal in Hull, Quebec. > Just > a thought... > > Donna > > PS - I am so glad for your breakthough. It is always an awesome feeling > when we find a lost ancestor who died young and "bring them home". Makes > the family feel more complete. > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

sry bout dat being from north of boston, (Woburn / Peabody) never really paid much attention to Hull. Just know it is down by cape thought it was considered 'gateway' to the cape even though on this side of the canal STILL way off from Chelmsford Eileen Fair wrote: > FYI, re: the message below........Hull, MA is NOT on Cape Cod -- it is more > than 50 miles north of Cape Cod -- it's actually almost to Boston. Hull is > on a narrow spit of land projecting north from Cohasset, which is about 20 > or so miles from Boston. Cape Cod officially begins at the Cape Cod Canal. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MomElefant" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Hull, Massachusetts > > > >> There is a Chelmsford Massachusetts but it is NOT near Hull. Hull >> is on Cape COd. Chelmsford is almost to the northern borger near Lowell. >> I have a daughter living in Chelmsford >> MomE >> >> Harriet Cady wrote: >> >>> Interesting that there is a Chelmsford, Massachusetts near Hull. >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >>> find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >>> SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there >>> is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >>> >>> To search the archives: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >>> The information page is: >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >> find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >> SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there >> is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Its possible. There is no fencing between the countries. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Canadian Naturalization Records >I had some luck on the Library & Archives Canada with census records, > but none with the naturalization records. Perhaps they sneaked across > the border ; -) > Gloria > > Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: >> Canadian Naturalization records are FREE. >> >> The link for the index to those on Library & Archives Canada is at >> http://naturalizationrecords.com/canada/ >> >> >> > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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FYI, re: the message below........Hull, MA is NOT on Cape Cod -- it is more than 50 miles north of Cape Cod -- it's actually almost to Boston. Hull is on a narrow spit of land projecting north from Cohasset, which is about 20 or so miles from Boston. Cape Cod officially begins at the Cape Cod Canal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MomElefant" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Hull, Massachusetts > There is a Chelmsford Massachusetts but it is NOT near Hull. Hull > is on Cape COd. Chelmsford is almost to the northern borger near Lowell. > I have a daughter living in Chelmsford > MomE > > Harriet Cady wrote: >> Interesting that there is a Chelmsford, Massachusetts near Hull. >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I >> find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the >> SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there >> is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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There is a Chelmsford Massachusetts but it is NOT near Hull. Hull is on Cape COd. Chelmsford is almost to the northern borger near Lowell. I have a daughter living in Chelmsford MomE Harriet Cady wrote: > Interesting that there is a Chelmsford, Massachusetts near Hull. > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Records for Notre-Dame-de-Grace, Hull QC were destroyed in a fire. I do not know if all records were destroyed but it is possible you will find them in Notre-Dame, Ottawa, ON. Good luck in your search Jackie> > One of the Hulls in Quebec seems to be THE one. Someone on line found the children, their christenings, and their parents, at Notre Dame de Grace. NOW, we have to find something out about that church. Where is it? What is their address or phone number? The finder was using ancestry.ca. I have ancestry.com, with a little additional Canadian access. Not good enough to pull up these christenings, however. > > Because we then had the child's name, we were able to find his birth, and today, his death! We have major break through!!! Together, we are Joshua! Now, does anyone know anything about that church? The christening date was June 5, 1887, for Thomas Daniel, Margerite-Annie and Maria Ellen Brown, parents being James Brown and Sarah McLean.> > Myra Herron> > Garth Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:> While many of us know of Hull Quebec across from > Ottawa there are three others in the Canadian > Place Names Database. 2 more in Quebec and one in Ontario.> > > Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 > > []> Map> Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 > > []> Map> Hull Que. Geographical area Chelsea, Les > Collines-de-l'Outaouais 031G12 > > []> Map> Hull Ont. Unincorporated area Sudbury 041I11 > > []> Map> > when in doubt try this link http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php> > cheers Garth> > > > MYRA HERRON> This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.> "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown> 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' > > > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject.> > To search the archives:> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION> The information page is:> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

OF COURSE!!! The records for the cemetery in which Thomas was buried, along with the cemetery itself, were also burned to a crisp. In those days, forest fires and city fires were rampant. Our entire 1890 census, basically, was also burned in a fire. I guess it's lucky that we have as much as we do! Thank you for that information! With that name and location, I've found an email address. I'll write to them, and ask them the questions. I truly appreciate this information. myra Jackie Hillier <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Records for Notre-Dame-de-Grace, Hull QC were destroyed in a fire. I do not know if all records were destroyed but it is possible you will find them in Notre-Dame, Ottawa, ON. Good luck in your search Jackie> > One of the Hulls in Quebec seems to be THE one. Someone on line found the children, their christenings, and their parents, at Notre Dame de Grace. NOW, we have to find something out about that church. Where is it? What is their address or phone number? The finder was using ancestry.ca. I have ancestry.com, with a little additional Canadian access. Not good enough to pull up these christenings, however. > > Because we then had the child's name, we were able to find his birth, and today, his death! We have major break through!!! Together, we are Joshua! Now, does anyone know anything about that church? The christening date was June 5, 1887, for Thomas Daniel, Margerite-Annie and Maria Ellen Brown, parents being James Brown and Sarah McLean.> > Myra Herron> > Garth Hamilton wrote:> While many of us know of Hull Quebec across from > Ottawa there are three others in the Canadian > Place Names Database. 2 more in Quebec and one in Ontario.> > > H! ull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 > > []> Map> Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 > > []> Map> Hull Que. Geographical area Chelsea, Les > Collines-de-l'Outaouais 031G12 > > []> Map> Hull Ont. Unincorporated area Sudbury 041I11 > > []> Map> > when in doubt try this link http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php> > cheers Garth> > > > MYRA HERRON> This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.> "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown> 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' > > > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.c! om > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this Lis t, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject.> > To search the archives:> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION> The information page is:> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!'

Hey Myra, Just to confuse thing further, maybe the kids were born in Ottawa [per marriage record], but baptized across the canal in Hull, Quebec. Just a thought... Donna PS - I am so glad for your breakthough. It is always an awesome feeling when we find a lost ancestor who died young and "bring them home". Makes the family feel more complete.

Canadian Naturalization records are FREE. The link for the index to those on Library & Archives Canada is at http://naturalizationrecords.com/canada/ Those few that are not online are available by ordering a search from LAC. Lorine On 10/20/08, Gloria <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the replies to my message on the naturalization records. I > wish I could afford membership to all the wonderful research websites > out there, but right now I have to look for the freebies. Thanks, again. > Gloria > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com

I had some luck on the Library & Archives Canada with census records, but none with the naturalization records. Perhaps they sneaked across the border ; -) Gloria Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: > Canadian Naturalization records are FREE. > > The link for the index to those on Library & Archives Canada is at > http://naturalizationrecords.com/canada/ > > >

Try the Canadian Archives are in Ottawa or each Province has their own archives and so do some cities. Regards, J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Canadian Naturalization Records >I checked out the timeline for Canada and noted that naturalization > records began in 1828. Is there somewhere I can access those records? > My Eager/Ager/Agar ancestors arrived in Canada from Vermont about 1832 > and lived in Hastings Co., Ontario until around 1900 when my > ggrandparents came to Nebraska (perhaps via New York). > Thanks for your help. > Gloria > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there > is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding the Hull located in Ottawa - Ottawa is now in Ontario and Hull is on the other side of the Rideau Canal and is Hull, Quebec. Joined by a bridge. The other Hull sounds like Northern Ontario and a different location, especially with Nickel mines. Regards, J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Herron" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK & FORTH:John & Sarah Brown & family OK, I'm confused. I thought there were TWO Hulls in Canada, one in Ontario. I googled Hull, Ontario, and got this: Chelmsford Founded in 1868, Chelmsford started out as an outpost on the Canadian Pacific Railway. Some say Chelmsford was named by one the Canadian Pacific Railway engineers, that was from the U.K. As with many communities in Northern Ontario, logging and fur trapping were the first industries. Having depleted the lumber in the early 1900s, Chelmsford turned to mining and agriculture to support the town's economy. Errington Mine and Nickel Offset mine were two of the largest mines in Chelmsford and both closed in the 1930s. Today, Chelmsford has no major industries and is mostly a residential community. Although there are still some farms producing mostly potatoes, small fruits and corn, it is mostly supported by the mining activities in the nearby communities of Onaping Falls and Copper Cliff. Postal delivery and telephone service in Chelmsford also includes the smaller neighbourhoods of Boninville, Hull and Larchwood. You can see why I'm confused. I also found: The site of Ottawa was explored in 1613 by Samuel de Champlain, who named the Rideau River and the Chaudière Falls, but permanent settlement was not established until the 19th century. In 1800 the lumber centre of Wrightsville (or Wright's Town, later Hull) was founded on the northern side of the Ottawa River, but the southern shore was not settled until 1826, when Bytown evolved around the headquarters of the Rideau Canal project. The town developed alongside Hull as a timber and fur-trading centre, and was renamed Ottawa on its incorporation in 1855. As capital of the United Provinces of Canada in 1858, its territory comprised parts of Québec and Ontario. On confederation in 1867, it retained its position, becoming capital of the Dominion of Canada. After the coming of the railway in 1870, it grew rapidly as a distribution centre for lumber to the expanding towns of southern Canada. Pulp and paper industries were established later to process trees unsuitable for sawn timber, using hydroelectricity generated on the Ottawa River. So, it looks as though, for a while, at least, there were 2 Hulls? Or am I hallucinating? OR, are these the same place? myra herron Olive Tree Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: On 18 Oct 2008 at 14:06, Myra Herron wrote: > I have a conundrum. There was a couple who moved from > AuSable, Iosco county, Michigan, USA to Hull, Canada (most > likely in Ontario), and back again. They had either 2 or 3 > children in Canada. > > What I DO have: > > James & Sarah Brown, the parents who moved to Hull, after > October 1882 (first child, Margaret, who was born in > Michigan), and before September 1886 (birth of their 2nd > child, Mary). They stayed there long enough to also have > Jennie, born Mary 1890, in Hull > Myra The first problem you have is that Hull is in Quebec, not Ontario. it is across the river (and the border) from Ottawa which is in Ontario. If they had children born in Ontario in this time frame, those birth registrations are available to the public. Ancestry.com has indexed them all and has the images too. You can also get them at the Ontario Archives or the Archives of Canada in Ottawa. If they had children born in Quebec, you will have to look up Quebec resources to see what is available in this time frame. I know that Vital records before 1900 (vital records being baptisms, marriages and burials) are the responsibility of the Quebec National Archives so you might start your search there if your couple really did have children in Hull (Quebec) See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and choose either Ontario or Quebec to get links to online data and to find out what is available. Good luck Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected] MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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Tried to google the church, but no luck. Ran into this site which may help someone: http://www.genealogysearch.org/canada/quebec.html Should be a picture or a picture of a drawing of that church somewhere. Saw something on Jestor, but don't have access to it. Lauraine > > From: Myra Herron <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/10/20 Mon PM 08:42:04 CDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] CHURCH NOTRE DAME DE GRACE IN HULL, > was HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK & FORTH:John & Sarah > Brown & family > > One of the Hulls in Quebec seems to be THE one. Someone on line found the children, their christenings, and their parents, at Notre Dame de Grace. NOW, we have to find something out about that church. Where is it? What is their address or phone number? The finder was using ancestry.ca. I have ancestry.com, with a little additional Canadian access. Not good enough to pull up these christenings, however. > > Because we then had the child's name, we were able to find his birth, and today, his death! We have major break through!!! Together, we are Joshua! Now, does anyone know anything about that church? The christening date was June 5, 1887, for Thomas Daniel, Margerite-Annie and Maria Ellen Brown, parents being James Brown and Sarah McLean. > > Myra Herron > > Garth Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > While many of us know of Hull Quebec across from > Ottawa there are three others in the Canadian > Place Names Database. 2 more in Quebec and one in Ontario. > > > Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 > > [] > Map > Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 > > [] > Map > Hull Que. Geographical area Chelsea, Les > Collines-de-l'Outaouais 031G12 > > [] > Map > Hull Ont. Unincorporated area Sudbury 041I11 > > [] > Map > > when in doubt try this link http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php > > cheers Garth > > > > MYRA HERRON > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown > 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > r

Thanks for the replies to my message on the naturalization records. I wish I could afford membership to all the wonderful research websites out there, but right now I have to look for the freebies. Thanks, again. Gloria

One of the Hulls in Quebec seems to be THE one. Someone on line found the children, their christenings, and their parents, at Notre Dame de Grace. NOW, we have to find something out about that church. Where is it? What is their address or phone number? The finder was using ancestry.ca. I have ancestry.com, with a little additional Canadian access. Not good enough to pull up these christenings, however. Because we then had the child's name, we were able to find his birth, and today, his death! We have major break through!!! Together, we are Joshua! Now, does anyone know anything about that church? The christening date was June 5, 1887, for Thomas Daniel, Margerite-Annie and Maria Ellen Brown, parents being James Brown and Sarah McLean. Myra Herron Garth Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: While many of us know of Hull Quebec across from Ottawa there are three others in the Canadian Place Names Database. 2 more in Quebec and one in Ontario. Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 [] Map Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 [] Map Hull Que. Geographical area Chelsea, Les Collines-de-l'Outaouais 031G12 [] Map Hull Ont. Unincorporated area Sudbury 041I11 [] Map when in doubt try this link http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php cheers Garth MYRA HERRON This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." unknown 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

While many of us know of Hull Quebec across from Ottawa there are three others in the Canadian Place Names Database. 2 more in Quebec and one in Ontario. Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?EMABY?C> [] Map Hull Que. Unincorporated area Gatineau 031G05 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?EREAN?C> [] Map Hull Que. Geographical area Chelsea, Les Collines-de-l'Outaouais 031G12 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?EGRLX?C> [] Map Hull Ont. Unincorporated area Sudbury 041I11 <http://GeoNames2.NRCan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?FDHDG?C> [] Map when in doubt try this link http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/search/search_e.php cheers Garth At 08:35 PM 10/18/2008, you wrote: >Judging by your google search, there must be 2 Hulls as Chelmsford is no >where near what most people call Hull. Hull is located on the north side of >the Ottawa River which is the boundary in that area between Ontario and >Quebec. Hull is now part of what they call Gatineau. >Peggy > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Myra Herron" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:58 PM >Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] HOW TO FIND ANCESTORS WHO MIGRATED BACK & >FORTH:John & Sarah Brown & family > > > >OK, I'm confused. I thought there were TWO Hulls in Canada, one in Ontario. >I googled Hull, Ontario, and got this: > Chelmsford > Founded in 1868, Chelmsford started out as an outpost on the Canadian >Pacific Railway. Some say Chelmsford was named by one the Canadian Pacific >Railway engineers, that was from the U.K. As with many communities in >Northern Ontario, logging and fur trapping were the first industries. Having >depleted the lumber in the early 1900s, Chelmsford turned to mining and >agriculture to support the town's economy. Errington Mine and Nickel Offset >mine were two of the largest mines in Chelmsford and both closed in the >1930s. > Today, Chelmsford has no major industries and is mostly a residential >community. Although there are still some farms producing mostly potatoes, >small fruits and corn, it is mostly supported by the mining activities in >the nearby communities of Onaping Falls and Copper Cliff. > Postal delivery and telephone service in Chelmsford also includes the >smaller neighbourhoods of Boninville, Hull and Larchwood. > > You can see why I'm confused. > > I also found: > > The site of Ottawa was explored in 1613 by Samuel de Champlain, who named >the Rideau River and the Chaudière Falls, but permanent settlement was not >established until the 19th century. In 1800 the lumber centre of >Wrightsville (or Wright's Town, later Hull) was founded on the northern side >of the Ottawa River, but the southern shore was not settled until 1826, when >Bytown evolved around the headquarters of the Rideau Canal project. The town >developed alongside Hull as a timber and fur-trading centre, and was renamed >Ottawa on its incorporation in 1855. As capital of the United Provinces of >Canada in 1858, its territory comprised parts of Québec and Ontario. On >confederation in 1867, it retained its position, becoming capital of the >Dominion of Canada. After the coming of the railway in 1870, it grew rapidly >as a distribution centre for lumber to the expanding towns of southern >Canada. Pulp and paper industries were established later to process trees >unsuitable for sawn > timber, using hydroelectricity generated on the Ottawa River. > >So, it looks as though, for a while, at least, there were 2 Hulls? Or am I >hallucinating? OR, are these the same place? > > myra herron > > Olive Tree Genealogy <[email protected]> wrote: > > >On 18 Oct 2008 at 14:06, Myra Herron wrote: > > > I have a conundrum. There was a couple who moved from > > AuSable, Iosco county, Michigan, USA to Hull, Canada (most > > likely in Ontario), and back again. They had either 2 or 3 > > children in Canada. > > > > What I DO have: > > > > James & Sarah Brown, the parents who moved to Hull, after > > October 1882 (first child, Margaret, who was born in > > Michigan), and before September 1886 (birth of their 2nd > > child, Mary). They stayed there long enough to also have > > Jennie, born Mary 1890, in Hull > > > >Myra > >The first problem you have is that Hull is in Quebec, not >Ontario. it is across the river (and the border) from >Ottawa which is in Ontario. > >If they had children born in Ontario in this time frame, >those birth registrations are available to the public. >Ancestry.com has indexed them all and has the images too. > >You can also get them at the Ontario Archives or the >Archives of Canada in Ottawa. > >If they had children born in Quebec, you will have to look >up Quebec resources to see what is available in this time >frame. I know that Vital records before 1900 (vital records >being baptisms, marriages and burials) are the >responsibility of the Quebec National Archives so you might >start your search there if your couple really did have >children in Hull (Quebec) > >See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ and choose either >Ontario or Quebec to get links to online data and to find >out what is available. > >Good luck >Lorine > > >-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > >* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ >* Naturalization Records >http://naturalizationrecords.com/ >* Images of Ships Lists >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > >[email protected] or [email protected] > > > > > >MYRA HERRON > This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. > "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, >liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, >which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a >turd by the clean end." unknown > 'Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. >Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!' > > > > > __________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? 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