Here is a link to Irish History segments on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyg5aBMYYz0 regards Garth At 01:00 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >If you are interested in the settlement of Ulster by the Scots do >some research on the Plantations of Ulster circa 1609. The first two >were settled by Hamilton's and Montgomery's. There are several sites >with this information but Wikapedia is probably the the place to >start with the condensed version. The Ulster web site also has a >great deal of information also. > >Google "Ulster Plantations" there is lots there. > >regards >Garth > > >At 12:46 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: > >There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged > >by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who > >in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible > >for much of the westward expansion... > >There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I > >believe, that told the story.. > >faye > > > >---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about > > > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and early > > > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused with > > > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato > > > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New York > > > and Boston. > > > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became known > > > as "Scotch Irish" > > > > > > MomEl > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Faye: > > > > > > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and > > Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots > > Irish" came about. > > > > > > > > Lauraine > > > > > > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> > > > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> > > > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people > > lived in Ireland > > > >> > > > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some > > of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have > > settled there? > > > >> > > > >> faye > > > >> > > > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hello, > > > >>> > > > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from > > 1820's on were > > > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from > > Scotland. But they > > > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one > > of the books on > > > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state > > that they were > > > >>> "Irishmen." > > > >>> > > > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block > > wall." None of us > > > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left > > Sligo-Town and > > > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each > > year of research > > > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and > > HENDERSON families in > > > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, > > we have no way > > > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming > > patterns" don't > > > >>> help.) > > > >>> > > > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > >>> > > > >>> List Administrator > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> FYI: > > > >>> > > > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" > > which is about the > > > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to > > celebrate their KERR > > > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their > > > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always > > INSISTED that > > > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland > > Games," etc. > > > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some > > > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings > > and cousins > > > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's > > in Ireland. > > > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name > > for us. My > > > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth > > > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they > came down to > > > >>> Boston, MA. > > > >>> > > > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is > > > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my > > gr-grandparents, William > > > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the > > HANNAH grave - > > > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My > > sister tells me it > > > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I > > will find a way > > > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in > > Everett, so I don't > > > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > > > >>> > > > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on > > this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- > > remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding > > to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > >>> > > > >>> To search the archives: > > > >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > > >>> The information page is: > > > >>> > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------------------- > > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >>> > > > >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > > !! 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If you are interested in the settlement of Ulster by the Scots do some research on the Plantations of Ulster circa 1609. The first two were settled by Hamilton's and Montgomery's. There are several sites with this information but Wikapedia is probably the the place to start with the condensed version. The Ulster web site also has a great deal of information also. Google "Ulster Plantations" there is lots there. regards Garth At 12:46 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged >by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who >in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible >for much of the westward expansion... >There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I >believe, that told the story.. >faye > >---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about > > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and early > > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused with > > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato > > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New York > > and Boston. > > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became known > > as "Scotch Irish" > > > > MomEl > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Faye: > > > > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and > Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots > Irish" came about. > > > > > > Lauraine > > > > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> > > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> > > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people > lived in Ireland > > >> > > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some > of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have > settled there? > > >> > > >> faye > > >> > > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello, > > >>> > > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from > 1820's on were > > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from > Scotland. But they > > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one > of the books on > > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state > that they were > > >>> "Irishmen." > > >>> > > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block > wall." None of us > > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left > Sligo-Town and > > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each > year of research > > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and > HENDERSON families in > > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, > we have no way > > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming > patterns" don't > > >>> help.) > > >>> > > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > >>> > > >>> List Administrator > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> FYI: > > >>> > > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" > which is about the > > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to > celebrate their KERR > > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their > > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always > INSISTED that > > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland > Games," etc. > > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some > > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings > and cousins > > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's > in Ireland. > > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name > for us. My > > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth > > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to > > >>> Boston, MA. > > >>> > > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is > > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my > gr-grandparents, William > > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the > HANNAH grave - > > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My > sister tells me it > > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I > will find a way > > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in > Everett, so I don't > > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > > >>> > > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on > this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- > remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding > to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > >>> > > >>> To search the archives: > > >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > >>> The information page is: > > >>> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >>> > > >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > >> > > >> To search the archives: > > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > >> The information page is: > > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > !! 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In the time period you are looking at there was only one Ireland and Ulster was one of four provinces of Ireland and contained 9 counties 3 of which are located today in the Irish Republic and 6 are in Northern Ireland. Sligo was not part of Ulster but it was a major sea port serving the west if Ireland for centuries so it would not be unusual for those arriving to the west of Ulster to come through this port town. Donegal lies to the north and Fermanagh lies to the east north east of the port city with the county of Leitrim lying between Sligo and Donegal and Fermanagh. There are port towns in Donegal such a Letterkenney but in the 1600's it was not of the status of Sligo. During the years 1847 to 1851 a large portion of those immigrating left through this port. regards Garth At 10:58 AM 11/24/2008, you wrote: >While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some of the >Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have settled there? > >faye > >---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from > 1820's on were > > KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from Scotland. But they > > were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one of > the books on > > the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state that they were > > "Irishmen." > > > > (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block wall." None of us > > can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left Sligo-Town and > > came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each year > of research > > goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and HENDERSON > families in > > the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, we > have no way > > to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming patterns" don't > > help.) > > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > > List Administrator > > > > > > FYI: > > > > In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" which is > about the > > ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to celebrate > their KERR > > heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their > > clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always INSISTED that > > they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland Games," etc. > > Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some > > "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings and cousins > > that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's in Ireland. > > Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name for us. My > > gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth > > HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to > > Boston, MA. > > > > Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is > > mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my > gr-grandparents, William > > KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the HANNAH grave - > > and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My sister tells me it > > cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I will find a way > > to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in Everett, so I don't > > know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > > > > Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > To search the archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > The information page is: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this > List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering > to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to > !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > >To search the archives: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >The information page is: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was at least one point in time when the Scots were encouraged by the British to move to Northern Ireland.. and yes it was they who in turn moved to the U.S., many to the south, and were responsible for much of the westward expansion... There was a wonderful show, on one of the History Channels I believe, that told the story.. faye ---- MomElefant <[email protected]> wrote: > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and early > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused with > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New York > and Boston. > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became known > as "Scotch Irish" > > MomEl > > [email protected] wrote: > > Faye: > > > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots Irish" came about. > > > > Lauraine > > > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> > >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST > >> To: [email protected] > >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > >> > >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have settled there? > >> > >> faye > >> > >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from 1820's on were > >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from Scotland. But they > >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one of the books on > >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state that they were > >>> "Irishmen." > >>> > >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block wall." None of us > >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left Sligo-Town and > >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each year of research > >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and HENDERSON families in > >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, we have no way > >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming patterns" don't > >>> help.) > >>> > >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > >>> > >>> List Administrator > >>> > >>> > >>> FYI: > >>> > >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" which is about the > >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to celebrate their KERR > >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their > >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always INSISTED that > >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland Games," etc. > >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some > >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings and cousins > >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's in Ireland. > >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name for us. My > >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth > >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to > >>> Boston, MA. > >>> > >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is > >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my gr-grandparents, William > >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the HANNAH grave - > >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My sister tells me it > >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I will find a way > >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in Everett, so I don't > >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > >>> > >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > >>> > >>> To search the archives: > >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > >>> The information page is: > >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > >> > >> To search the archives: > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > >> The information page is: > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > To search the archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > The information page is: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! 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I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and early 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused with or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New York and Boston. Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became known as "Scotch Irish" MomEl [email protected] wrote: > Faye: > > There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots Irish" came about. > > Lauraine > >> From: Faye <[email protected]> >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST >> To: [email protected] >> CC: Betty <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland >> >> While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have settled there? >> >> faye >> >> ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from 1820's on were >>> KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from Scotland. But they >>> were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one of the books on >>> the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state that they were >>> "Irishmen." >>> >>> (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block wall." None of us >>> can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left Sligo-Town and >>> came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each year of research >>> goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and HENDERSON families in >>> the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, we have no way >>> to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming patterns" don't >>> help.) >>> >>> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >>> >>> List Administrator >>> >>> >>> FYI: >>> >>> In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" which is about the >>> ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to celebrate their KERR >>> heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their >>> clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always INSISTED that >>> they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland Games," etc. >>> Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some >>> "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings and cousins >>> that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's in Ireland. >>> Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name for us. My >>> gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth >>> HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to >>> Boston, MA. >>> >>> Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is >>> mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my gr-grandparents, William >>> KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the HANNAH grave - >>> and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My sister tells me it >>> cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I will find a way >>> to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in Everett, so I don't >>> know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) >>> >>> Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >>> >>> To search the archives: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >>> The information page is: >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. >> >> To search the archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION >> The information page is: >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! 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Think you may be wrong. Google shows: http://www.answers.com/topic/ulster-scots I always thought they were Scots who migrated to Ireland looking for work or land - maybe even forcefully grabbing land as border raiders. Some families went back and forth over different generations?? Lauraine > > From: MomElefant <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 11:41:04 CST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > > I could be wrong But I believe the "Scotch Irish" term came about > because the early Irish immigrants form the 1600's and 1700's and early > 1800's who were very well established did NOT want to be confused with > or associated with the "poor Irish immigrant" fleeing the "Potato > Famine' who came over with nothing and settled in the slums of New York > and Boston. > Therefore the Irish who had been here for many generations became known > as "Scotch Irish" > > MomEl

Hi Nancy: Do you have any idea where your David was born in Scotland? If you can come up with a Parish, might be easier to trace his family in Scotland. Did he have two forenames? Most Scots used known naming patterns so with a persons forenames, it gives good clues to his ancestory - at least a guess as to what his grandfathers names were. If David is your chaps only name, am willing to bet one of his grandfathers had the name David too. David was one of the more common forenames of Scotland and we spent considerable time trying to sort out one of David Nicols - still not 100% sure he is ours, but burial records, etc. suggest we got the correct one. If we could only find a service record for the Nepoleonic wars, we could cinch our conclusions. He was not on the Trafalgar list. This is where collateral information is crucial. For me getting all the brothers and sisters and their names in date order (lst born top of list) helped. Using the Scottish naming information, it was easier to follow the lines. Lauraine > > From: "Dalle, Nancy, Civ, 126 CES, CEOR, 4878" <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 07:08:48 CST > To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames > > My last name is West. My great Grandfather and Grandfather's names were > Joseph. Do you know how many Joseph West there are in the world. This was > one of my stumbling blocks. It still is, I've got my Great Grandfather's > name - David West and I know he came from Scotland to Canada then to > Michigan. But he is my end of this line unless I can find more about him. > West is a very common name and searching for ancestors is like looking for a > needle in a haystack...... But I'll keep looking...... > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames > > Wow, can't imagine haveing a surname that can and probably does now, include > millions...like Brown or Jones, geeze. It must really get frustrating...I > have a hard time with Irish "RYAN" name at times, luckly my Paternal surname > is a bit easier is "FILIPPINI", tough to pronounce but fairly easy to > find... > Wishing all a happy Turkey day, where ever you are. > > ~Linda~ > Happy Holidays, to you and yours~ > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Faye: There was a fair amount of movement between Scotland and Ireland at various times. Believe that is how the name "Scots Irish" came about. Lauraine > > From: Faye <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/24 Mon AM 09:58:14 CST > To: [email protected] > CC: Betty <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Surnames from Scotland; people lived in Ireland > > While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have settled there? > > faye > > ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from 1820's on were > > KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from Scotland. But they > > were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one of the books on > > the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state that they were > > "Irishmen." > > > > (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block wall." None of us > > can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left Sligo-Town and > > came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each year of research > > goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and HENDERSON families in > > the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, we have no way > > to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming patterns" don't > > help.) > > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > > List Administrator > > > > > > FYI: > > > > In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" which is about the > > ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to celebrate their KERR > > heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their > > clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always INSISTED that > > they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland Games," etc. > > Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some > > "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings and cousins > > that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's in Ireland. > > Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name for us. My > > gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth > > HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to > > Boston, MA. > > > > Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is > > mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my gr-grandparents, William > > KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the HANNAH grave - > > and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My sister tells me it > > cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I will find a way > > to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in Everett, so I don't > > know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > > > > Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > To search the archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > The information page is: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

While Sligo is outside of Northern Ireland, I wonder if some of the Scotts who were moved to Ireland in the 1600s might have settled there? faye ---- Betty <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from 1820's on were > KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from Scotland. But they > were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one of the books on > the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state that they were > "Irishmen." > > (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block wall." None of us > can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left Sligo-Town and > came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each year of research > goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and HENDERSON families in > the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, we have no way > to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming patterns" don't > help.) > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > List Administrator > > > FYI: > > In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" which is about the > ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to celebrate their KERR > heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their > clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always INSISTED that > they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland Games," etc. > Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some > "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings and cousins > that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's in Ireland. > Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name for us. My > gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth > HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to > Boston, MA. > > Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is > mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my gr-grandparents, William > KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the HANNAH grave - > and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My sister tells me it > cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I will find a way > to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in Everett, so I don't > know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) > > Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today. > > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Betty I also have some LEWIS ancestors from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia who were mariners that married into my LEY line and vice versa that could possibly be connected to LEWIS'S. I'll have to find my info and put it on the List. I haven't worked on this family tree in awhile. Regards, Cindy

Try John (Johann) Bower (Bauer). The "John Smith" of Germany. He was born in Germany on Apr 25, 1833 and come to Canada in 1854. Had a son, John Bower on May 23, 1861 who moved to Wykoff, Minnesota about 1895. Had a son, John Bower on May 16, 1914 who moved to WI about 1937 and had another John Bower! And now there are two more! Can't really get upset with the ancestors when we just kept doing the same thing. lol Lita http://www.picturetrail.com/grammapux Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it, unearth it, and gnaw it still. Thoreau ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dalle, Nancy, Civ, 126 CES, CEOR, 4878" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames > My last name is West. My great Grandfather and Grandfather's names were > Joseph. Do you know how many Joseph West there are in the world. This > was > one of my stumbling blocks. It still is, I've got my Great Grandfather's > name - David West and I know he came from Scotland to Canada then to > Michigan. But he is my end of this line unless I can find more about him. > West is a very common name and searching for ancestors is like looking for > a > needle in a haystack...... But I'll keep looking......

And that's what I would do but my older relatives are deceased and for as long as I"ve been researching I've never met anyone that was looking for these same lines. But I will keep plugging along. cindyy On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Have several McDonalds in my tree as my daughter married one There a > couple of others too. Really suggest you try to get Lucille Campey's book > on the Scots to the Maritmes if your ancestors were there early in Canada. > > When you have more common names, it is wise to contact all older living > family members and ask lots of questions. Do this in collateral lines as > well as your direct line. Record all clues and gather every speck of > information. So often there is one person per generation who is interested > in family history. They have information. There is often a "gossip" in > every family who can be a goldmine (could be a cousin, aunt or uncle). Keep > in mind this "gossip" may also tell fibs to hide any family secrets. Thus > you need to verify the information via documents. > > As my main paternal Smith family originated in Shetland, thanks to a > wonderful man called Tony Gott and his marvelous research site > http://bayanne.info/Shetland/ some of the research was easier. > > Lauraine > > > > > From: "Cynthia Phillips" <[email protected]> > > Date: 2008/11/23 Sun PM 08:06:27 CST > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames > > > > heehee I have the commonest of scottish and italian names > > Mc/MacDonald, Iuliano/Juliano/Uliano and DeSimone on top of this > Malcolm > > and Arthur are very common first names and PEI is full of Malcolm > > McDonalds. The italian side is John and wife Josephine. > > > > cindy > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Linda Mock <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Wow, can't imagine haveing a surname that can and probably does now, > > > include millions...like Brown or Jones, geeze. It must really get > > > frustrating...I have a hard time with Irish "RYAN" name at times, > luckly > > > my Paternal surname is a bit easier is "FILIPPINI", tough to pronounce > > > but fairly easy to find... > > > Wishing all a happy Turkey day, where ever you are. > > > > > > ~Linda~ > > > Happy Holidays, to you and yours~ > > > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > > > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > > > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure > there is > > > a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > > > To search the archives: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > > The information page is: > > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Cindyp > > > > http://grammiesbears.com > > http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu > > http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips <http://ourgv.com/cynthiaphillips> > > http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is > a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > To search the archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > The information page is: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is > a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Cindyp http://grammiesbears.com http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen

Hello, Just a reminder that my ancestors in the Prov. of Quebec from 1820's on were KERR and HENDERSON families - definitely names from Scotland. But they were born and raised in County Sligo, Ireland. And, one of the books on the "history of Argenteuil Co. and Prescott Co. ..." state that they were "Irishmen." (For dozens of researchers, this is a "concrete-block wall." None of us can find out who the parents were of the 9 people who left Sligo-Town and came to Canada. (4 couples, one single lady). As each year of research goes on, we are finding out that there were KERR and HENDERSON families in the late 1700's in County Sligo, even in Sligo Town. But, we have no way to connect our ancestors up to them. And, even "naming patterns" don't help.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) List Administrator FYI: In 2 weeks we will be attending a "cousins get-together" which is about the ~20 KERR cousins / siblings I have. They all like to celebrate their KERR heritage; even have a few patches of a KERR tartan pinned to their clothes. And, several of my late uncles and aunts always INSISTED that they were "Scots" and some of them attended the "Highland Games," etc. Over the weekend I was trying to find a way on-line of finding some "HENDERSON tartan" patches. I wanted to remind my siblings and cousins that one of our ancestors was William HENDERSON, born 1780's in Ireland. Unfortunately, it was his daughter who carried on the name for us. My gr-gr-grandparents were supposedly cousins, Robert KERR and Elizabeth HENDERSON, b1827 in Argenteuil County, and in 1880's they came down to Boston, MA. Robert and Elizabeth are buried in Everett, MA, and the KERR name is mentioned there. But, I've been reminded that my gr-grandparents, William KERR and Elizabeth HANNAH, are buried in Malden, MA, in the HANNAH grave - and the KERR name is not mentioned on the stone. My sister tells me it cost a lot of money to add names to a stone, but someday I will find a way to do that. And, I haven't seen the KERR stone in Everett, so I don't know if the HENDERSON name is mentioned there. (~1905 burials) Hmmmm. Maybe that's what I'll do today.

Hi Linda, What frustrates me is that I was told the LEWIS name in Lancashire, England, especially in Liverpool, is as popular there - as SMITH and JONES in the U.S. But, for my 5+ years of placing queries there, I very rarely find anyone researching the LEWIS name there. (However, I just heard from one over the weekend. His Thomas and my John probably lived in the same neighborhood in the West Derby part of Liverpool, but were probably not related.) When my great-grandfather was "shipped to Canada" as a "child migrant" in 1874, he left behind many LEWIS cousins. And, I haven't found any descendant of them. And, I don't even know if he had BURROWS cousins. LEWIS is a common name which people don't think of as a common name. FYI: I sat beside a LEWIS boy for 10 years all through school. I have no way of knowing whether he was distantly related to me - as, at the time, no one thought of genealogy, and, now, he's not interested. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (My aunt was a FRANCIS and she married a FRANCIS - not related at all.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames > Wow, can't imagine haveing a surname that can and probably does now, > include millions...like Brown or Jones, geeze. It must really get > frustrating...I have a hard time with Irish "RYAN" name at times, luckly > my Paternal surname is a bit easier is "FILIPPINI", tough to pronounce > but fairly easy to find... > Wishing all a happy Turkey day, where ever you are. > > ~Linda~ > Happy Holidays, to you and yours~ > > >

My last name is West. My great Grandfather and Grandfather's names were Joseph. Do you know how many Joseph West there are in the world. This was one of my stumbling blocks. It still is, I've got my Great Grandfather's name - David West and I know he came from Scotland to Canada then to Michigan. But he is my end of this line unless I can find more about him. West is a very common name and searching for ancestors is like looking for a needle in a haystack...... But I'll keep looking...... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames Wow, can't imagine haveing a surname that can and probably does now, include millions...like Brown or Jones, geeze. It must really get frustrating...I have a hard time with Irish "RYAN" name at times, luckly my Paternal surname is a bit easier is "FILIPPINI", tough to pronounce but fairly easy to find... Wishing all a happy Turkey day, where ever you are. ~Linda~ Happy Holidays, to you and yours~ When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bruce: Agree that a sense of humor is really necessary when doing genealogy. My earliest known Smith was a Nicol Smith b. circa 1747 in Shetland. Not sure I will ever be able to get his ancestor as great probability it is a Nicol or Nicolson surname. Patrynomics were in use then. With my G.G. grandfather Smith, the name of Laurence was introduced and it was a popular name for many cousins. So maybe Nicol's father was a Laurence?? Laurence had a brother Nicol and a lst cousin Nicol. The families often named the lst born son after his grandfather. Thus a family with 6 sons might each name their lst born son after his grandfather. Makes the sorting out a wee bit more than maddening. I asked my cousin in Shetland about this and he informed me that nicknames were often used by employers and family - none which would be on record! My Dad took part in the Shetland DNA Project and there is a connection to the Nicholson line but no idea where. One of the Saints in Shetland was a Laurence and it a fairly popular name there. It has been handed down to present times in the family. FYI there were 195 Smiths with Laurence forename; only 26 with forename Nicol and over 400 with forename James. My 3x g. grandfather was named James Smith. Shetland is small and the most prevalent surname is Smith. Not an easy task sorting them out. Lauraine > > From: Bruce Jackson <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/22 Sat PM 12:01:46 CST > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Lauraine / Smiths > > Lauraine wrote: > While googling in Wisconsin for a SMITH (do not laugh) > > No Lauraine, we have to laugh to get through looking for our Smiths or > we'd never make it.My Smith lines were here early on and kept marrying > into the same families.We will figure it out in time--- what a tangled > mess we have.So go ahead and laugh and > then say a prayer for us so we find them while we can share it. > Christine > Our Smiths were in Mass., New York,Wisconsin,Iowa,Minnesota and then all > over.Some of the off shoots went south and then west. > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, my Smith grandfather had a Quebec/French mother...a Nadon. But his father was Alfred Smith...... That Smith line was traceable all the way back to England, with the first immigrants on this continent arriving in Connecticut, marrying into other English families there. My line did not have any French/Canadian lineage at all until about 1800, when this Acadian-deportee (who was French, from Acadia) married a Smith... Subsequently, they migrated to Quebec, as the Acadian wife joined some of her fellow/related Acadian (French) people who were in Quebec. And then they proceeded to intermarry with many other Quebec/French lines. It took me a long time to find the original two in my first paragraph, because both my mom's parents had Quebec backgrounds... I never dreamed of looking in Acadia and the USA/Connecticut! Lots of fun to actually make a discovery like that, however... I felt like I'd struck the pot of gold when I did!!! mas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Smiths MaSmith Perhaps there is no relationship on the Smith side, still looking for Smiths in N. America in our family. Have some French background on my maternal side with the name Pouchard (Pochard/Pushaw) & Robichaux (Robichaud/Robeshaw,). Believe the Robichaux connection had ancestors who emigrated to Acadia when it was under French rule. There were no hints of the Palatine nor French connections by my parents or grandparents. Stumbled on this information, so one can't always believe what their ancestors tell them. Would never think of the name Smith as French? Still wondering about that. Where in France did they come from? People often fibbed about their ethnic background in earlier times to get work. People migration often resulted for land, work or political reasons. Growing up a Smith, learned early to defend its commonness with "there are only two kinds of people in the world, those that are Smiths, and those that wish they were". LOL. As the name suggests a connection to the metal trades, in earlier times, the Smiths probably made a decent living in most clans. Lauraine > > From: "MASmith" <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/23 Sun PM 08:41:03 CST > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Smiths MaSmith > > I will be surprised, from what you are telling me, if we are > cousins.....even a long way back. Doesn't really sound like it. My > relatives were all French, whereas I don't think yours were? > > Given that Smith is such a popular name (I refuse to call it common,) that > is not surprising. My mom was a Smith; I married a Smith; my daughter > married a Smith....no relations whatsoever as to the Smith lines. > > And, BTW, My internet addie name is MOMSmith, not MASmith........ altho > my initials are MASmith. > Talk about confusing!!! No wonder we have problems with genealogy. Even > a simple name like mine is hard to get straight!!! > > There is NO hope!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Jackson > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Smiths MaSmith > > Ma Smith wrote: > Just a note to both of you who are researching Smiths. > > My mother was a Smith, and then I married a Smith.....no relation > whatsoever, and not the same nationality involved, either. So, talk about > Double Trouble!!!! Be happy you only have ONE line of Smiths. > > Well Ma Smith,My Gideon Leroy Smith(Great Grandpa) married Laura Strong > whose father was Aurelius Strong whose mother was Laura Smith that > married Joel Strong.There are many many Smiths tucked in and who knows > how many were related to begin with -------or perhaps not at all until > we get all the answers. > And just for a little Canadian fun here we will add Aurelius Strong's > wife Mary Louise Miller whose father John Miller was born on a ship on > the way over (from England)and ended up in Canada --he married Jane Shaw > from Canada and after a parcel of kids they along with her father's > family Francis Shaw (from France) that was living in Canada --- moved > down to New York. Many of them came to southern Minnesota from New > York.I find the history that goes with them just fascinating. > Best of Luck Ma -- perhaps I will find that you are a "cousin". > Christine > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. 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Nope, I cannot say that any of these people ring any family bells for me. There are just SO many Smiths.. and they seem to run in all ethnic groups, as well. Hard to put a background nationality on them. But, at least no one ever asks you how to spell your name!!! mas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Lauraine / Smiths Wish that were true! Actually have a couple of collateral lines of Smith. My Grandma (Hird) Smith's sister married a Smith, but no relation to her husband. Have traced some of that family, but it seems the only son ended up on west coast of the U.S.A. Did find the granddaughter and we keep in track. Believe two or three of the daughters of G. Aunt Maggie's family ended up in the U.S. Slowly working on that. So if any of your Smith's have a Hird/Herd connection, could be a connection. Lauraine > > From: "MASmith" <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/23 Sun AM 01:05:47 CST > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Lauraine / Smiths > > Just a note to both of you who are researching Smiths. > > My mother was a Smith, and then I married a Smith.....no relation > whatsoever, and not the same nationality involved, either. So, talk about > Double Trouble!!!! Be happy you only have ONE line of Smiths. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Jackson > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Lauraine / Smiths > > Lauraine wrote: > While googling in Wisconsin for a SMITH (do not laugh) > > No Lauraine, we have to laugh to get through looking for our Smiths or > we'd never make it.My Smith lines were here early on and kept marrying > into the same families.We will figure it out in time--- what a tangled > mess we have.So go ahead and laugh and > then say a prayer for us so we find them while we can share it. > Christine > Our Smiths were in Mass., New York,Wisconsin,Iowa,Minnesota and then all > over.Some of the off shoots went south and then west. > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find > it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT > from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a > SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will be surprised, from what you are telling me, if we are cousins.....even a long way back. Doesn't really sound like it. My relatives were all French, whereas I don't think yours were? Given that Smith is such a popular name (I refuse to call it common,) that is not surprising. My mom was a Smith; I married a Smith; my daughter married a Smith....no relations whatsoever as to the Smith lines. And, BTW, My internet addie name is MOMSmith, not MASmith........ altho my initials are MASmith. Talk about confusing!!! No wonder we have problems with genealogy. Even a simple name like mine is hard to get straight!!! There is NO hope!!!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Jackson Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAN-USA-MIG] Smiths MaSmith Ma Smith wrote: Just a note to both of you who are researching Smiths. My mother was a Smith, and then I married a Smith.....no relation whatsoever, and not the same nationality involved, either. So, talk about Double Trouble!!!! Be happy you only have ONE line of Smiths. Well Ma Smith,My Gideon Leroy Smith(Great Grandpa) married Laura Strong whose father was Aurelius Strong whose mother was Laura Smith that married Joel Strong.There are many many Smiths tucked in and who knows how many were related to begin with -------or perhaps not at all until we get all the answers. And just for a little Canadian fun here we will add Aurelius Strong's wife Mary Louise Miller whose father John Miller was born on a ship on the way over (from England)and ended up in Canada --he married Jane Shaw from Canada and after a parcel of kids they along with her father's family Francis Shaw (from France) that was living in Canada --- moved down to New York. Many of them came to southern Minnesota from New York.I find the history that goes with them just fascinating. Best of Luck Ma -- perhaps I will find that you are a "cousin". Christine When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. To search the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION The information page is: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have several McDonalds in my tree as my daughter married one There a couple of others too. Really suggest you try to get Lucille Campey's book on the Scots to the Maritmes if your ancestors were there early in Canada. When you have more common names, it is wise to contact all older living family members and ask lots of questions. Do this in collateral lines as well as your direct line. Record all clues and gather every speck of information. So often there is one person per generation who is interested in family history. They have information. There is often a "gossip" in every family who can be a goldmine (could be a cousin, aunt or uncle). Keep in mind this "gossip" may also tell fibs to hide any family secrets. Thus you need to verify the information via documents. As my main paternal Smith family originated in Shetland, thanks to a wonderful man called Tony Gott and his marvelous research site http://bayanne.info/Shetland/ some of the research was easier. Lauraine > > From: "Cynthia Phillips" <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/11/23 Sun PM 08:06:27 CST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-USA-MIG] Simple surnames > > heehee I have the commonest of scottish and italian names > Mc/MacDonald, Iuliano/Juliano/Uliano and DeSimone on top of this Malcolm > and Arthur are very common first names and PEI is full of Malcolm > McDonalds. The italian side is John and wife Josephine. > > cindy > > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Linda Mock <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Wow, can't imagine haveing a surname that can and probably does now, > > include millions...like Brown or Jones, geeze. It must really get > > frustrating...I have a hard time with Irish "RYAN" name at times, luckly > > my Paternal surname is a bit easier is "FILIPPINI", tough to pronounce > > but fairly easy to find... > > Wishing all a happy Turkey day, where ever you are. > > > > ~Linda~ > > Happy Holidays, to you and yours~ > > > > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I > > find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the > > SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is > > a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > > > To search the archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > The information page is: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Cindyp > > http://grammiesbears.com > http://teambeachbody.com/cindylu > http://OurGV.com/cynthiaphillips > http://shaklee.net/naturalngreen > When you want to respond to a query or comment posted on this List, I find it MUCH easier to post a new message -- remembering to include the SUBJECT from the post you are responding to !! Please make sure there is a SURNAME or place-name in the Subject. > > To search the archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CAN-USA-MIGRATION > The information page is: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Immigration/CAN-USA-MIGRATION.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >