I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June 1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper is best for shipping news? Joanna Hamilton, Ontario

Here's a beginning: Lancour, A. H. "Ship's Passenger Lists (1538-1825) New York 1963 which is considered out of print, which means some library holds it; referred as: "A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists, 1538-1825: Being a Guide to Published Lists of Early Immigrants to North America". Lancour, Harold. Ship Passenger Lists: The South 1538-1825 Carl Boyer Format: Paperback, 314pp. ISBN: 0940907267 Publisher: Willow Bend Books Pub. Date: January 1980 http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/newspapers/#QB QUEBEC . Yahoo Index: Quebec . INTERNEST - un quotidien Quebecois interactif. . Journal La VallEe. - information au coeur des Laurentides. Les exemplaires certifies de Saint-Jereme # Mont-Tremblant. . La Voix de l'Est - Le quotidien de Granby depuis 1945. . Le Soleil de Quebec - journal quotidien publie # Quebec. Son site internet contient les nouvelles du jour, un acces interactif e des archives et e un agenda culturel. . Montreal Gazette . National Post . Nouvelles Chomeday News http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/info/aboutus/history.html The Gazette is one of the oldest newspapers on the North American continent. Founded by Fleury Mesplet in 1778, it began as a French-language paper, became bilingual in the late 1700s and ultimately changed to an English-language newspaper in 1822. In 1968, The Gazette joined the Southam chain. in 1996, The Gazette, passed in to the hands of Hollinger when it gained control of the Southam group of newspapers. CanWest Global bought The Gazette and other Southam papers from Hollinger in 2000. Today, the Gazette is the dominant medium for reaching Montreal's large English market.The high fragmentation and duplication of radio, TV, magazines and weekly newspapers makes The Gazette, with its large, loyal readership, the most desirable choice for advertisers. Throughout the week, 75% of Montreal's English population reads The Gazette. The Gazette offers award-winning editorial contentwith a variety of sections and features that readers have come to depend on, and look forward to, every day of the week.The Gazette's weekly TVtimes, Special Sections throughout the year, and weekly community editions in key suburban markets are of prime interest to both readers and advertisers. The Gazette also offers market research, creative services, targeted insert distribution and New Media applications, including this Web Site. http://www.qctonline.com/History.html A brief history of North America's oldest newspaper The Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph has enjoyed a very long and most distinguished history in Quebec City. This newspaper is a descendant of several newspapers published during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries in Quebec. The first, The Quebec Gazette, was founded on June 21, 1764. From that year to 1842, the newspaper published both French and English editions. It started as a weekly, but in May, 1832, it began appearing in English on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and in French on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Founded by William Brown, the Quebec Gazette had 150 subscribers in 1764. It encountered a number of problems during the first years of publication, and ceased printing during the siege of Quebec in November 1775. When William Brown died in 1789, the newspaper remained in his family, being taken over by two of his nephews, John and Samuel Neilson. John Neilson published the Quebec Gazette until February 1848, then was replaced for a year by Roland Macdonald. Robert Middleton succeeded Macdonald and remained with the paper until 1873. In 1873 the Quebec Gazette joined with the Morning Chronicle to become the Quebec Chronicle and Quebec Gazette. The Morning Chronicle, founded in 1847 by Robert Middleton and Charles St. Michel, also saw many changes, especially in its content. Upon Middleton<s death in 1873, J.J. Foote, who had become publisher of the paper in 1863, ended the competition between the Quebec Gazette and the Morning Chronicle by combining the two. Two years after the amalgamation, the Quebec Daily Telegraph was founded by James Carrel on November 9, 1875. Contrary to the Quebec Chronicle and the Quebec Gazette which was a Conservative newspaper, the Daily Telegraph defended popular opinion and published as a Liberal newspaper. The competition between these two newspapers was disastrous. On July 2, 1925, the two joined under the name of the Chronicle-Telegraph (it became the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph in 1934. The new paper was controlled by William Price and James Carrel (William Price had purchased the Morning Chronicle in 1922). The offices of the newspaper were located on Buade Street. In September 1959, the business moved to St-Malo Industrial Centre and a new proprietor, The Thomson Company, took control. In 1972 the newspaper, which had been a daily for a long time, became a weekly. The Thomson Company then sold the newspaper to publisher Herb Murphy. On December 16, 1979, a group composed of lawyers David Cannon, Jean Lemelin and Ross Rourke, along with broadcaster Bob Dawson, saved the paper from a certain demise. A few years later, David Cannon acquired sole ownership of the paper, and then, on January 1, 1993, it was bought by Karen Macdonald and Francois Vezina. With each change in ownership, the paper found itself in new offices: from its humble beginning on St. Louis Street to the grand office on the corner of Buade and du Tresor in the 1920s, and a big move to the St-Malo industrial park in 1959. The Chronicle-Telegraph was also published out of the Wax Museum and is now located in suburban Sainte-Foy. The Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph is still a weekly. It is published every Wednesday and has a circulation of 1,700. In 2001 it is celebrating its 238th anniversary. This photo montage clearly shows where the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph offices were located, at 27 Buade Street. Though the Chronicle-Telegraph sign is hidden beneath an awning on du Tresor Street, some say if you pass there, when the wind is right, you can still smell the ink! -----Original Message----- From: Joanna Waugh [mailto:j.waugh@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:59 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Quebec newspapers I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June 1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper is best for shipping news? 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At 09:59 AM 2002-05-11 -0400, Joanna Waugh wrote: >I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City >landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the >references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the >Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June >1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper >is best for shipping news? >Joanna >Hamilton, Ontario Hi Joanna, On TheShipsList we use the Montreal Gazette a lot, but don't limit ourselves to that newspaper. We have the 1863 Canada ship arrivals from the Toronto Emigrant Office Arrival and Destination Registers, but we have supplemented those with information from newspapers, and the SS&A website, and from the Canada Sessional Papers. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1863.htm There were several ships from German ports arriving in the month of June. Marj Kohli will see your message, but not before Tuesday next. Marj is very familiar with which newspaper contains the best information for which period. Sue --

At 09:59 AM 11/05/2002 -0400, Joanna Waugh wrote: >I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City >landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the >references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the >Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June >1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper >is best for shipping news? >Joanna >Hamilton, Ontario Joanna, I see you are in Hamilton. I would suggest you go to McMaster University Library and ask about their newspaper collection. I am sure they will have the Quebec papers for this period. Old newspapers are used by the History depts. and so many universities are an excellent source for this tool. --- Just checked McMaster catalogue and they do have the Gazette. Regards.. Marjorie Kohli Waterloo, ON Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/