Hi I was wondering if some one could help me. Thomas G Flynn came to Canada about 1844 from Ireland and settled in Ontario (Kingston Napanee Mountain Grove Area there are still decendants in this area.) I can't find a ship that he came over on. He came over with a wife and children( Wife, Mary Ann, Sons,Edward, Gilbert, Robert, William, as well as daughter Mary ) Any help would be appreciated Bob Flynn

Hi Sue, What a worthwhile project Gilbert Bossé has embarked upon. His website has a wealth of information. Thanks for telling me about it, Donna ************ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <Sue@TheShipsList.com> To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [CanShipsListsPre1865] Re: Irish immigrant ship wrecked in St. Lawrence ca. 1842 At 12:35 PM 2002-04-29 -02-30, Donna Burden wrote: Family lore has it that in about 1842, the ship on which our Irish (Ulster) ancestors (surname Moncrieff) sailed to Quebec struck rocks east of Quebec City, and the passengers had to bail water to reach Quebec City. All of their posessions were lost. I know there were many shipwrecks in the St. Lawrence at this time, so I wonder if someone knows of any documentation of these accidents? I have been scanning the shipping articles in the Montreal Gazette of the time, but so far found no mention of it there. Donna ************** Hi Donna, These occurrences were pretty common-place so often never rated a mention in the contemporary newspapers, which could sell more copies if there was loss of life, or WORSE still, loss of cargo! <grin> Gilbert R. Bossé has produced a CD about shipping in the Lower St. Lawrence during this period. I intend to buy one for my use, but Gil has some great excerpts on his website, extracted from many different sources. http://www.geocities.com/grbosse.geo/Intro.html http://www.geocities.com/grbosse.geo/ Sue http://theshipslist.com/

Correction: The following ships were to St John New Brunswick NOT to Nova Scotia (Thanks to Sue Swiggum for spotting this error!) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_eliz1861.shtml Elizabeth Ireland to St John 1861 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_eliz1863.shtml Elizabeth Ireland to St John 1863 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_nubia1863.shtml Nubia Ireland to St John 1863 Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

The Olive Tree Genealogy at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ is pleased to announce 5 more ships lists from Ireland to Canada have now been transcribed and put online http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_eliz1861.shtml Elizabeth Ireland to St John Nova Scotia 1861 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/qu_nubia1861.shtml Nubia 1861 Ireland to Quebec http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_eliz1863.shtml Elizabeth Ireland to Nova Scotia 1863 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_nubia1863.shtml Nubia Ireland to Nova Scotia 1863 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/qu_nubia1863.shtml Nubia Ireland to Quebec 1863 Ships to Canada begin at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml I have not yet categorized these ships by port of arrival, so you must look under year of arrival or use the Pico Search Engine at the bottom of each of my pages. Good luck and hope you find an ancestor or two! Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Adrian, I have the names of people assisted in 1862 by the Kingston Agent Mr. Macpherson http://www.theshipslist.com/1862/Kingstonnames1862.htm Marj and I have begun working with these files, and have 1863 and 1864 to come. I don't see your Jane mentioned by name, although there is a Robert Henry Quick. Some of these records have quite chatty notes, and quite a few have the name of the ship of arrival which can be double checked against the Portland and Quebec ship arrival list http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1862.htm There are also people arriving from the US, some from port of New York, and others who arrived prior to 1862, but had stopped in at Mr. Macpherson's office for help or direction. Have fun with them Sue -- At 06:26 PM 2002-04-30 +0100, Adrian Parry wrote: >According to the 1901 census of St Thomas, Ontario, Jane QUICK emigrated to >Ontario from Devon in 1862. I suspect that her husband John, who died in >Elgin in 1872, and their daughter Elizabeth emigrated at the same time. > >I have tried without success to obtain details of the dates of their >departure and arrival, name of the ship, ports of departure and arrival etc. >Can anyone point me in the right direction please? > >Adrian >Yorkshire

According to the 1901 census of St Thomas, Ontario, Jane QUICK emigrated to Ontario from Devon in 1862. I suspect that her husband John, who died in Elgin in 1872, and their daughter Elizabeth emigrated at the same time. I have tried without success to obtain details of the dates of their departure and arrival, name of the ship, ports of departure and arrival etc. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Adrian Yorkshire Family history web-site at: - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrianp/ Researching: - Devon - LUSCOMBE, SHOBBROOK, PERRIAM, PITTS, QUICK, SAUNDERS, VENTON, WARD, STONEMAN, BUTT, COX & CORNISH. Dorset - WILMOT(T) Gloucestershire - HESKINS, FARR, BAKER, & FOWLER Middlesex - HIGGINSON, MONTGOMERY & SAWARD Somerset - HOLBROOK, POTHECARY & WILMOT(T) Wiltshire - BECKINGHAM, COOK, DASH, DREW, FARR, FELL, HAWKINS, HEATH, MINCHEN, PITT, RICHENS, RICKS, RUDMAN, WATKINS, WILTSHIRE, WAIT(E), WHALE & WHIT(E)BREAD Carmarthenshire - PARRY & MORGANS Glamorgan - PARRY & POTHECARY Monmouthshire - POTHECARY Anywhere - MUDON

Searching for information on a ship list, possibly SS Peruvian from Londonderry- Quebec/Montreal 12/5/64. Ancestors; Leighton & Magavern believed to have been passengers. Thank you Bill

On 30 Apr 2002 at 18:26, Adrian Parry wrote: > I have tried without success to obtain details of the dates of > their departure and arrival, name of the ship, ports of > departure and arrival etc. Can anyone point me in the right > direction please? Dear Adrian There are very few useful immigration records prior to 1865. Until that year, shipping companies were not required by the government to retain their passenger manifests. There are a few lists pertaining to British-subsidized immigration schemes for the period 1817-1831 and these are available from the National Archives of Canada in Ottawa. The Miscellaneous Immigration Index is a nominal card index to some of those records and it is available for consultation in the NAC Reference Room. It relates mostly to immigrants from the British Isles to Quebec and Ontario between the years 1801 and 1849. There is also the Hawke Collection whichspans the years from 1831 until 1892. What this means for the researcher is few and scattered records. It is always wise therefore to consult other records which can substitute for a passenger list. These substitutes, plus more details on the known lists and how to access them, can be read on my Immigration to Canada Pre 1865 article at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml If you had previously checked my article, please be aware that I updated it today with more information. Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

On 30 Apr 2002 at 8:23, rijoperk wrote: > I've ordered the Hawkes Papers thru Inter-library from > Ontario Archives - these are alleged to contain some > passenger information - but if anyone has some input of the > contents of this film, that would be apprecited also. Dear Joan Anthony B. Hawke was the chief emigrant agent for Upper Canada and Canada West (present day Ontario) from 1833 to 1864. The Hawke collection spans the years from 1831 until 1892 and includes letterbooks of Hawke and his successor, J.A. Donaldson, registers of immigrants who came to the attention of the emigrant office, financial records, and two reports of inspection of child immigrants. Please see Friends of the Ontario Archives at http://www.archivesontariofriends.com Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

William Luscombe is my greatgrandfather. His obituary states he was born in Devonport, Plymouth, England in 1842 and came to America in 1856. A known fact is that he married Susan Hill Canterbury in Illinois in 1875. Oral history says that he came as a stowaway on a freighter to either New York or Ontario. Recently I read that many immigrants came to Canada by way of New York and then up the Hudson River to Canada. My first question is could he have sailed by ship from England to a port in Canada by way of New York. My second question is if he was a stowaway would he be listed as crew, passenger or other classification. My third question is there a list of freighters sailing from Plymouth to Canadian ports in 1856 and where would I find it. Any information on my search would be greatly appreciated. Jim Luscombe

Hello Listers, My family history clues so far indicate that Thomas and Ann CONNEYWORTH/CUNNINGWORTH/CUNNEYWORTH left East Yorkshire, England sometime after the birth of their first child, John, in September, 1829. They traveled to Madrid, New York, by the shores on the St. Lawrence (across from Leeds & Grenville County, Ontario), where they appear in the June, 1830 US census. I have not been able to locate any information about ships arriving in North America during the winter of 1829-30. After a couple of years in Madrid, St. Lawrence county, NY, they moved across the river to Kitley Township c. 1832. I am aware of other Yorkshire arrivals also going to St. Lawrence county, and from there to Leeds and Grenville during the same time frame. Is this just a coincidence or was there a greater East Yorkshire -> St. Lawrence -> Leeds & Grenville migration "network" involved? Any help finding out how they got there would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance... Wayne Cunneyworth Cherryville, BC, Canada

On 30 Apr 2002 at 8:23, rijoperk wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to find passenger list on John Rawlinson/Rollison > who emigrated from Great Britain in the early 1850's - most > likely 1850-1852. The first question I have to ask is, have you tried the Ingeneas online database? Some records are free, others you must pay to obtain details, but you can search and get index results for free. I think the URL is simply ingeneas.com but if you cannot get to it, I have a link to their site on my pags at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/pass.shtml Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Hi, I am trying to find passenger list on John Rawlinson/Rollison who emigrated from Great Britain in the early 1850's - most likely 1850-1852. He settled in St. Catharines, Ont. He is alleged to be a native of Scotland, but no proof of that so far. Could be from northern England - near Scot's border, i.e., York, for that matter. Any help in tracing this ancestor's origins would be greatly helpful. I've ordered the Hawkes Papers thru Inter-library from Ontario Archives - these are alleged to contain some passenger information - but if anyone has some input of the contents of this film, that would be apprecited also. Many thanks. Joan in NYS

At 12:35 PM 2002-04-29 -02-30, Donna Burden wrote: >Family lore has it that in about 1842, the ship on which our Irish >(Ulster) ancestors (surname Moncrieff) sailed to Quebec struck rocks east >of Quebec City, and the passengers had to bail water to reach Quebec City. >All of their posessions were lost. > >I know there were many shipwrecks in the St. Lawrence at this time, so I >wonder if someone knows of any documentation of these accidents? I have >been scanning the shipping articles in the Montreal Gazette of the time, >but so far found no mention of it there. > >Donna Hi Donna, These occurrences were pretty common-place so often never rated a mention in the contemporary newspapers, which could sell more copies if there was loss of life, or WORSE still, loss of cargo! <grin> Gilbert R. Bossé has produced a CD about shipping in the Lower St. Lawrence during this period. I intend to buy one for my use, but Gil has some great excerpts on his website, extracted from many different sources. http://www.geocities.com/grbosse.geo/Intro.html http://www.geocities.com/grbosse.geo/ Sue http://theshipslist.com/

Family lore has it that in about 1842, the ship on which our Irish (Ulster) ancestors (surname Moncrieff) sailed to Quebec struck rocks east of Quebec City, and the passengers had to bail water to reach Quebec City. All of their posessions were lost. I know there were many shipwrecks in the St. Lawrence at this time, so I wonder if someone knows of any documentation of these accidents? I have been scanning the shipping articles in the Montreal Gazette of the time, but so far found no mention of it there. Donna

Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net