Looking for the passenger list of the "Clinton" Apparently this ship transported soldiers of the 71st Regiment to Canada after the American War. Private John Falconer arrived in Halifax in 1786... mstrocel@telus.net

Canadian Ship before 1865 http://www.ikweb.com/murduck/genealogy/research/sources/passenger_lists/#TOC http://www.ikweb.com/murduck/genealogy/research/sources/passenger_lists/ Rhonda Houston

Ship list: http://webhome.idirect.com/~obrienr/hebe.html http://webhome.idirect.com/~obrienr/cork1823.html Rhonda Houston

I ran across this while surfing. Those interested in the Atlantic travel by Ships, looking for Crews, Ports, and Passengers just might access this below url and read, read, and read! I am not connected with this in anyway, but wish I was...Rhonda Houston http://bostonstates.rootsweb.com/S&SCdstats.htm A Genealogical Goldmine: The Ships and Seafarer's CD from the Memorial University of Newfoundland <http://www.mun.ca/mha/> The NEHGS review of this CD is located in the July 1999 New England Historical and Genealogical Register book review section pp. 370-372 by George Freeman Sanborn Jr., F.A.S.G. : "Ships and Seafarer's of Atlantic Canada" (St John's, NF: Maritime History Archive and the Maritime Studies Research Unit, Memorial University of Newfoundland, 1998. One compact disk, $49.95 [Canadian funds]; Canadian residents please add 15% HST for a total of $57.44. Shipping and handling additional.). Order from The Secretary, Maritime History Archive Memorial University of Newfoundland St John's, NF CANADA A1C5S7.

http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/swedhis/swed1800.htm Something like these: http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~warden/colonial/misc2001a.htm Denmark: Dannebrog 1850 3057 tons 185' 4" x 53' 6" x 22' 2" 72 Guns 1863: Converted into a broadside Ironclad Frederik VI 84 Guns Skjold 2250 tons 193' 7" x 47' 2" x - 64 Guns Converted to steam power and lastly the Waldemar http://www.kulturnet.dk/homes/orlm/kroneng922.htm Canada Pier 21 - Halifax, Canada - Canada's Historic Soul. Stylish design Immigrants to Canada in Nineteenth Century - Ships - Emigration Reports - Emigration Handbooks by Marj Kohli Norway-Canada Passenger Lists 1865-1935 "The National Archives of Canada holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. The names of immigrants arriving from overseas are recorded in passenger lists. Those arriving from or via the United States are recorded in border entry lists. A series of old nominal indexes exist for the 1925 to 1935 records. In cooperation with the National Archives of Canada, the Pier 21 Society in Halifax, Nova Scotia, has input the information from the passenger list indexes into this database. Also included are border entries for individuals whose surname starts with the letter C." Search in Geneas Canadian Genealogy "The inGeneas Database contains passenger list records for immigrants arriving at Canadian ports between 1748 and 1873. For the most part, these records have been extracted from microfilm of the original manifests held at several archives and libraries. The inGeneas Database contains records from a variety of immigration records (other than passenger lists) for the time period of 1748 to 1906. For the most part, these records have been extracted from microfilm of the original records held at several archives and libraries." http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/ship_desc.htm http://www.maxpages.com/ourlostfamily/Ships_to_Ports http://sydaby.eget.net/swe/emi_ref.htm http://sydaby.eget.net/swe/emi_ref.htm Canada Pier 21 - Halifax, Canada - Canada's Historic Soul. Stylish design Immigrants to Canada in Nineteenth Century - Ships - Emigration Reports - Emigration Handbooks by Marj Kohli Norway-Canada Passenger Lists 1865-1935 "The National Archives of Canada holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. The names of immigrants arriving from overseas are recorded in passenger lists. Those arriving from or via the United States are recorded in border entry lists. A series of old nominal indexes exist for the 1925 to 1935 records. In cooperation with the National Archives of Canada, the Pier 21 Society in Halifax, Nova Scotia, has input the information from the passenger list indexes into this database. Also included are border entries for individuals whose surname starts with the letter C." Search in Geneas Canadian Genealogy "The inGeneas Database contains passenger list records for immigrants arriving at Canadian ports between 1748 and 1873. For the most part, these records have been extracted from microfilm of the original manifests held at several archives and libraries. The inGeneas Database contains records from a variety of immigration records (other than passenger lists) for the time period of 1748 to 1906. For the most part, these records have been extracted from microfilm of the original records held at several archives and libraries." Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: Lucy Krajna [mailto:LKRAJN@ci.mil.wi.us] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:25 PM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] DENMARK Would anyone know of any ships that may have come to Canada before 1849 from Denmark? Thank You ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1850 to 1865 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp04.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I'm looking for the name of the ship that sailed from Skye to Nova Scotia in 1830. Apparently it came with 39 families aboard. Regards, Anne Geall

http://ils.unc.edu/maritime/home.shtml http://ils.unc.edu/maritime/shiprsrch.shtml http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/research.html Research Guide No. B7: The Royal Navy: Ship Records then, http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/b1.html then, Reference numbers given in italics refer to the Museum’s Library index. The full Library index can also be found on http://www.nmm.ac.uk Steel's Navy List - editions spanning 1787-1816. Incomplete run, but printed as frequently as monthly. Lists officers, ships and establishments including officers of Sea Fencibles before 1810. Miscellaneous intelligence reports, vessels captured, prize money awards. http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/a3.html Tracing Family History from Maritime Records How about finding that 'official navy business' transporting army property (the Bullock family) on a naval ship via the records. Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: Merriam White [mailto:merriam@kc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:35 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Bullock, Richard and Jane Looking for clues to ships, possibly military ships from Ireland or Wales circa 1800. Lt. Richard Bullock and wife, Jane (English) Bullock married in Affane, Waterford County, Ireland in 1797 at that time Lt. Richard Bullock was in the His Majesty's Welsh 41st afoot Regiment from Wales. They came to Canada's east coast with three children from a former marriage. They had one child in Quebec in 1804 and they traveled around with the unit in Canada ending up in Carrying Place, Ontario to retire after the War of 1812. I do not know where to start looking for ships this early to Canada. I have read that ships this early did not require manifests but I thought it might be different with military ships landing in Canada. Any help would be appreciated, Merriam White Missouri, USA merriam@kc.rr.com ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1800 to 1820 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp02.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Would anyone know of any ships that may have come to Canada before 1849 from Denmark? Thank You

Looking for passenger list containing Alexander Noble - came to Canada from Northern Ireland around 1815-1819 possibly with his wife Elizabeth!

On 7 May 2002 at 1:35, Merriam White wrote: > Looking for clues to ships, possibly military ships from Ireland > or Wales circa 1800. Lt. Richard Bullock and wife, Jane > (English) Bullock married in Affane, Waterford County, Ireland > in 1797 at that time Lt. Richard Bullock was in the His > Majesty's Welsh 41st afoot Regiment from Wales. They came to > Canada's east coast with three children from a former marriage. > They had one child in Quebec in 1804 and they traveled around > with the unit in Canada ending up in Carrying Place, Ontario to > retire after the War of 1812. > > I do not know where to start looking for ships this early to > Canada. I have read that ships this early did not require > manifests but I thought it might be different with military > ships landing in Canada. > Merriam This is a fascinating topic , but sadly one I know little of (military immigration via sea) However, I did a quick check on your behalf in the online PRO catalogue and I think you should read their section on Transport Department Records (ADM 108 and MT 23 ) These relate collectively to the transport by sea of military forces to various parts of the world 1773-1917. http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?CATREF=ADM +108&ACCESSMETHOD=6 and http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/DisplayCatDetailsGoto.asp?CATREF=MT+ 23&ACCESSMETHOD=6 If you can't get to the two URLs by this method, start at http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/ExternalRequest.asp?RequestReference =ri2272 It's still a 2 line URL. You can't click on it. You copy and paste BOTH lines (no spaces!!) into your browser location bar and hit ENTER. I hope you can find the records you want. Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze -- * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/usa_genealogy/ * My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net

Sometime around 1859-1860, Thomas John Gibson and wife Elizabeth with 5 children, sailed to Canada. They were from Beverly, Yorkshire, England, settling in Owen Sound Ontario. I realize this is a shot in the dark as apparently, there are not many passenger records existing for this era. Thanks Tom Gibson

My Phelan's and Whelan's are in Gaspe Co. Quebec in 1825 and 1831 census'. How did they get here? And from where? Mike

Hi Paul, I see the bark Waverley (note spelling) from Liverpool arriving at Quebec 1863-05-18 with 297 passengers. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1863.htm This information comes mostly from the "Toronto Emigrant Office Arrival and Destination Registers" although for 1861-1864 we draw on a variety of sources for the passenger ship arrivals. The ship may well have had an 1862 voyage to Quebec, but I have no record of that. Using the arrival date, you may wish to follow-up by consulting the contemporary newspapers to see if a "letter of appreciation" was published. Usually the only passenger names published were cabin passengers, and those in the letters of appreciation. I'm a little confused why your people would have arrived via Quebec en route to Australia in the 1860s. This became a popular short-cut (via train to Vancouver) well into the 20th century, but the rail didn't cross the country until 1885. Maybe Canada or the US was their intended initial destination. Sue http://www.theshipslist.com/ -- At 12:57 PM 2002-05-05 -0700, Paul Nichols wrote: >Hi. > > My wifes family landed in MONTREAL in abt 1862. > > They were on the Waverly, from England on the way >to Australia. They ended up going into the U.S. a while >later. > > They are ELY (Abraham) and his wife Sarah and about >5 children. > > Thanks. > > Paul of San Diego

Hi Sue. That is awesome information. That is the first confirmation I have been able to find in 6 years. Maybe the spelling with the extra e was the difference. Some of my wifes ancestors did go on to Australia..maybe that was the original intent..I don't know. Thank you very much. Paul

A few points of interest re ships from the UK, as food for thought. 1. While few ships lists for pre-1865 arrivals in Canada survive, in the 1820s-30s, the local Quebec City English newspaper, usually published the names of each ship arriving with the list of passengers. These newspapers can be viewed on microfilm at the National LIbrary and Archives of Canada in Ottawa. It's a tedious job, but an option if you can get there. 2. During the 1820s-30s, passage from the UK to Canada was cheaper than to the US. Hence many destined for Upper New York State, and the Ohio Valley landed at the port of Quebec. They proceeded down the St Lawrence River by steamer, then the Erie Canal etc. So just because your ancestor settled in the US, does not necessarily mean that they arrived at a US port. 3. In the 1820s-30s, there was a concerted effort on the part of the colonies of Upper Canada (now Ontario) and Lower Canada (now Quebec) to divert UK emigrants from the US to Canada. Buchanan, the emigration agent at the port of New York, diverted many arriving there, to move on to especially Upper Canada. So just because your ancestor settled in Canada, does not necessarily mean that they arrived in a Canadian port. 4. Emigrant ships leaving Belfast, and Dublin, often also called to pick up passengers in Lamlash, Scotland and in Liverpool, England. So don't overlook ships "from Ireland" as an option for your Scottish or English ancestor. Heh who said it would be easy....... Gwen Rawlings Barry, Lwr Sackville, Nova Scotia

I am looking for the ship which brought my greatgrandparents to Canada from Northern Ireland, probably Belfast. Adam Crozier, wife Jane, children Thomas and Margaret arrived in Frontenac County Ontario, received a crown patent and settled in Bedford north of Kingston. Adam's brother Thomas, wife Jane and 5 or 6 children came with them and settled in Portland Township. A family story says that there were five Crozier families on the ship. The year was believed to be 1851. Is there anywhere I might find a record of this ship? Thanks. Rosemary

Where would one start looking for passenger records of ships originating in Germany in the middle 1850's. All I have is an approximate date of arrival in Canada. Mike Pratt Lansing Mi USA

Hi. My wifes family landed in MONTREAL in abt 1862. They were on the Waverly, from England on the way to Australia. They ended up going into the U.S. a while later. They are ELY (Abraham) and his wife Sarah and about 5 children. Thanks. Paul of San Diego

Looking for information on the arrival of a Joseph STRINGER who lived in Guysborough County, Nova Scotia circa 1820. Eric Stringer Hodge's Cove, NF

Hello Tom, I think you have more to go on than you realize in your Canadian quest. :-) Here are my suggestions for further research: On 4 May 2002 at 9:56, Tim Totten wrote: > > Thomas TOTTEN b. 4/22/1819? in Ireland, and Sarah SPROAT b. > 10/31/1820 in Ireland or Scotland; from a 1926 letter about One question - further in your email you say that Sarah's name was not Sproat but Mericra/oft. Which is correct? > Some of their children, all born in Canada West: > 1) James b. 4/5/1844; the letter says born in Waterloo, but > some 20th century records say Kingston You have some great clues here! You know that in 1844 the family was in Waterloo or Kingston. I would take a careful look at the sources for each - is it family lore? Primary sources? If you can weigh one more heavily than the other you can look in the 1842 census (if one exists) for the area of interest. I have searched Waterloo area and some very early census and tax assessment lists survive. Finding an 1842 census is your dream because it will provide you with the number of years the family has been "in the Province". > 2) Mary Elizabeth b. > 7/14/1845; living with husband in 1871 in Strathroy 3) Thomas, > Jr. b. 9/14/1846 in Hamilton Now you have another clue! You need the 1851 census for Hamilton. It may be (based on what you have told us for William's birth, below, that you need Toronto 1851 but why not start with Hamilton? 7) William M. b. 3/19/1855 in > Toronto > 13) Alfred Edward b. 4/1866 So you know that by 1861 census time you may, with any luck, find the family still in Toronto > > This is about all I currently know. Searching in Canada, > Ireland, and Scotland has been largely fruitless, because as "a > farmer of rented farms", they moved so much. Your search need not be fruitless. In fact a Thomas Totten did purchase land in 1830 in Lanark. (his name shows on the CLRI). Whether it is your Thomas is up to you to evaluate. The CLRI (Ontario Land Record Index) is a good tool as long as you keep in mind that it is an index only and that it only records the first time owner of land after purchase from the Crown. If you are lucky and your ancestor appears on the CLRI you have other options to pursue, depending on the type of sale, grant, or lease, and the time period. Taking the Thomas Totten I found, the record reads Name of Locatee: Totton [sic] Thomas Residence: not given Township/Town/City: Lanark Conc 4 Lot 10 Date ID: 5 Issue Date 1830/09/10 Transaction Type: S Type of FreeGrant: -- Type of Lease/Sale: CL Archival Reference: 01 CIII3 001 096 >From this we know that Thomas Totton [sic] purchased as a sale, Clergy Land Lot 10, Conc. 4 in Lanark on 1830/09/10. The Archival Reference means that there *may* be more details on the original document which can be found in Clergy Reserves, 1829-1924. What are Clergy Reserves Sales? In July 1827, the clergy reserves had to be sold. To limit land speculation, actual settlement on the land was mandatory, and payment of rent arrears on leased lots was required before any sale. This specific CLRI entry can be found on microfilm MS 693, Reel 189 page 96. This is all explained (and a link to the conversion tables is given) on my CLRI pages at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/clri.shtml Land records are not the only source. There are newspaper accounts, wills, court records, education records (I found my ancestors on an old school list for the 1860s), petitions, tax rolls, assessment rolls, voters lists, church records... and more. I could go on but instead let me direct to my article on immigration before 1865 (details are there and I really don't want to repeat myself when you can easily click on the link) AND to my section on Researching Ontario Records. I have links to each 'category' such as census records, land records, newspapers, etc etc. I also have links to Special Collections which may prove helpful. I have links to the online index to Surrogate and Probate court records - perhaps your ancestors were involved in a court episode - land, disputes, whatever -- that may have required documentation on them. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/ Your goal, IMO, should be to gather more information and details/facts on your family - in a timeline manner. You can set up census years as a guide - and start filling in blanks. For eg you know that by 1844 the family was in CW (Canada West, now present day Ontario) To summarize here is what you have told us re the family's movements: ca 1819 - in Ireland 1844 - in Waterloo or Kingston 1846 - in Hamilton 1855 - in Toronto 1866 - in USA So - find the County, find out what census records are available and gather your information on the family. You are so lucky to have this family in Ontario for 1851 and 1861 census at a minimum. With any luck you'll find them in 1842. (Think positively!) The 1861 census has an agricultural section so be sure you check that as well as the personal section. You may get an exact land location, and if you do, you can do more checking on that specific piece of land in Abstract Indexes to Deeds or Township Papers. (See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/land.shtml for more info as to what can be found in Abstract Indexes to deeds) Perhaps you will find relatives living nearby. Finding them on the census records will give you possibly more precise info as to where they moved and when. I have a page with links to Ontario census records that are online. If you are lucky, the ones you want will be there; if not, it's good old fashioned slogging through microfilm http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/census.shtml Then you can start looking at tax and assessments - and farmer's directories - what a great tool they are! Check County Atlases. Your Thomas may be found there. Check the OCFA online - were any other children born to them and possibly died What religion were they? You can search church records if you know the religion. The Ontario Archives has excellent resources which you use to find more about your family. Once all that is done then (IMO) you should start looking for an arrival, keeping in mind that you may never find one! Remember, ships lists before 1865 are few and far between BUT with luck you'll come up with a more precise immigration year, and be able to go from there. The NAC does have some lists. Ingeneas has lists. I have lists. The ShipsLists has newspaper accounts and some names. Ireland holds shipping lists.... I have many ships lists from Irish shipping agent records that will be going online on Olive Tree Genealogy as I finish scanning and coding them. These should prove helpful to many researchers. Again, you can read my article on immigration and get the details and URLs when you are ready to begin. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml Oh - and be prepared to hunt the old fashioned way -- offline :-) Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze -- * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/usa_genealogy/ * My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net