Sorry the attachement didn't work, I'll use the old copy & paste. Ship: Harmony Date of Departure: 10 May 1841 Port of Departure: Bristol, England Date of Arrival: 12 Jul 1841 Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec Source(s): See various immigrant accounts for this voyage. Notes: Little is known of this voyage. BARNES, James Gender: M BARNES, Sister Gender: F CLIFT, Note: "Family (Husband, wife, two sons, and one daughter, etc)" (EECI). CLIFT, Bro. Gender: M CLIFT, Eliza Gender: F CLIFT, Sister Gender: F COLLET, Brother Gender: M Note: "And Family" (Harmony). COLLETT, Daniel Origin: Pendock Parish COLLETT, Reuben COLLETT, Reuben COLLETT, Rhoda COLLETT, Rhoda COLLETT, Sylvester COLLETT, Sylvester FIDLER, George Gender: M GARDENER, William Gender: M Note: "Stayed in Kirkland" (Harmony). GRANGER, Father Gender: M GREEN, Brother Gender: M GREEN, Sister Gender: F HARRIS, Paul Gender: M Note: "His wife came in 1840 and went to Kirkland. Both stayed in Kirkland" (Harmony). HILL, Brother Gender: M Note: "Of Turkey Hill Gloustershire" (Harmony). HILL, Sister Gender: F HUNT, John Gender: M HUNT, Mrs. Gender: F MAUGHAN, Mary Ann Weston Gender: F Note: "Married John Davis 23 Dec 1840 in Gloustershire" (Harmony). MOORE, C. Gender: F Note: "Stayed at Kirkland" (Harmony). SIMONDS, Hannah Gender: F Note: "Now Mrs. Phillips of Kaysville" (Harmony). SMITH, Brother Gender: M Note: "And family"; "Now of Kaysville" (Haromony). SMITH, John S. Note: "Wife and Daughter" (EECI). Cathie --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th!

Note: forwarded message attached. There are a few more ships lists that were posted on the Lancsgen mail list and I will forward them as well. Cathie --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness

Ms. White, I am on a number of lists and this information came from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com which I archived in my files. I keep every post from every list so I can refer back to them for just this type of situation....and you can find this post made on Thu 12/6/2001 11:06 AM in the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION archives...This website was/is posted on the internet. Could this be your man? If it is, there is someone else looking for a piece of the puzzle. Rhonda Houston An address helps ...... http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~british41st/41stregt_deserters.htm ***Bullock, John - October 5, 1813 Thames September 8, 1814 He is listed as the 26th soldier down the website. As a researcher of the British 41st Regiment of Foot of which my 4th Great Grandfather was a member for 18 years (15 in Canada 1799-1815), I have found many members that deserted and more than likely settled in the US. Many of the men were captured in the War of 1812 and the Americans actively offered bounties to these men to desert. Also, at the end of this page is a list I found of men who applied to settle in Canada after the War of 1812 who served with the 41st Regiment of Foot. There are others who settled in Canada after the War of 1812, William Molesworth, who was discharged in Ireland in 1817 and came back to join his family and settled in Perth, Lanark County, Ontario & James Worthington, who was discharged in 1823 in Madras, India and made his way back to Chippawa, Ontario. These men were professional soldiers and signed up for a minimum of 5 years, well trained and drilled, not like the former laborers, shopkeepers, etc. that made up the American Army in the beginning of the War. One man that I found that died while in service of the 41st Regiment was 64 years old! Some had even fought for the British Army in the American Revolution 30 years before. Did they then enlist in the American Army after desertion? Did they get land grants as incentives? I don't know. That is for other geneologist to find out. This list is simply a ways and means to find the ancestor that you have been unable to find his arrival in the United States or Canada. Couldn't find his name on a passenger list? No wonder, it wouldn't be something bragged about to the grandkids. On the date of desertion, if it is late 1814, this more than likely was when they were released from Prison Camp. A soldier had quite a bit of time in prison and then the long walk to Canada to decide if they wanted the life of a soldier for the rest of their life or a new lease on life. An officer of the 41st, (John Richardson) told the tale of when he was touring the midwest later in life, meeting a former British soldier that simply walked away and now owned a small store in Ohio. Almost all of these men were held either in Greenbush, New York or in Chillicothe, Ohio. If there is no date of capture then the man simply walked away from where ever he was posted. 85% of these men also had only been in the British Army for 2-3 years with 27 that had been in over 10 years. This site also stands as notice that I'm looking for any information on soldiers who served in the 41st Regiment of Foot while in the Canadas. Be careful in the spelling as some names on the muster lists are spelled differently from time to time, i.e. Stewart, Stuart or Skelton, Sheldon, Shelton. Hope you find that piece of that puzzle!! Tod L. Molesworth Avoca, Michigan USA 4th Great Grandson of William Molesworth Drummer, 41st Regiment of Foot 1798-1817 26thalabama@ameritech -----Original Message----- From: Merriam White [mailto:merriam@kc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:35 AM To: Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Bullock, Richard and Jane Looking for clues to ships, possibly military ships from Ireland or Wales circa 1800. Lt. Richard Bullock and wife, Jane (English) Bullock married in Affane, Waterford County, Ireland in 1797 at that time Lt. Richard Bullock was in the His Majesty's Welsh 41st afoot Regiment from Wales. They came to Canada's east coast with three children from a former marriage. They had one child in Quebec in 1804 and they traveled around with the unit in Canada ending up in Carrying Place, Ontario to retire after the War of 1812. I do not know where to start looking for ships this early to Canada. I have read that ships this early did not require manifests but I thought it might be different with military ships landing in Canada. Any help would be appreciated, Merriam White Missouri, USA merriam@kc.rr.com ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1800 to 1820 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp02.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

http://www.archives.ca/02/02011202_e.html Here is a search engine with the Canadian Archives...although most of us don't know the name of a ship, place some words (key ones) within the KEYWORD space and experiment with the results. I placed within the search engine "ships to canada" and received results. Take a look at the very, very bottom...the name of a ship came up!! Rhonda Houston http://www.archives.ca/02/02011204_e.html Below is a list of the holdings described in the Colonial Archives Database, most of which are fully described. Each call number is followed by two links: the first leads to the description of the holdings, collection or series in question as it appears in the General Inventory Database (click here to perform a search using your own parameters). The second link selects all records in the Colonial Archives Database that belong to the holdings, collection or series in question and allows you to perform a more specific search in the database (click here if you would like to query the database another way). http://www.archives.ca/02/02011204_e.html http://www.archives.ca/02/02011204/0201120410_e.html MG40 - RECORDS AND MANUSCRIPTS FROM BRITISH REPOSITORIES MG40-D5 High Court of Admiralty (HCA 32) http://www.archives.ca/02/02011204/020112041001_e.asp?v=%22MG%2040%22%20and% 20%22D%205%22 HERE ARE THE NAMES OF SOME SHIPS WITH DATES: MG 40 - D 5 1739-1745? File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Atalante de Nantes 2 MG 40 - D 5 1755-1757 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1739-1745? File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Atalante de Nantes Ship: Buchanan 3 MG 40 - D 5 1757-1759 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1755-1757 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Buchanan Ship: Chevreuil de Bayonne 4 MG 40 - D 5 1755-1757 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1757-1759 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Chevreuil de Bayonne Ship: Charming Sally of New York 5 MG 40 - D 5 1756-1757 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1755-1757 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Charming Sally of New York Ship: Enterprise of Maryland 6 MG 40 - D 5 1758 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1756-1757 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Enterprise of Maryland Ship: Galathée 7 MG 40 - D 5 1750's File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1758 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Galathée Ship: Gracieuse de La Rochelle 8 MG 40 - D 5 1760-1761 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1750's File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Gracieuse de La Rochelle Ship: Indian Trader 9 MG 40 - D 5 1755-1756 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 MG 40 - D 5 1760-1761 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Indian Trader Ship: Jeune Catherine de Granville MG 40 - D 5 1755-1756 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: Jeune Catherine de Granville Here are some expamples found on the Canadian search engine: ALS. The writer encloses a letter to the Pope [Pius VI] written on behalf of the bp. of Québec [Briand], a letter to [L.] Antonelli [see C 126], and a list of indulgences [see Varia 288] requested by parish priests and nuns of Canada. These last should reach London by Mar., since ships leave England for Canada early in the Spring. Inserted into search engine: ships Re PF answer of 7 Apr. 1781. B: 340r. 1781, February, 04 MG 17 - A 25 1727, December, 19 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Congressi: Anglia , 6 AL. The dispute between England and Spain with regard to commerce in the West Indies continues, and the merchants of London insist on the fact that the seizure of their ships harms not only their clandestine trade, but also the legitimate trade with the English colonies of America. [The balance of this item deals with England]. 20 MG 17 - A 25 1729, March, 11 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Congressi: Anglia , 6 AL. Many Irish families found it impossible to survive to the famine and left Ireland on 20 ships to settle in the British colonies of North America. [The balance of this item deals with Spain, the West Indies, Gibraltar]. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Inserted within search engine: military MG 17 - A 25 1776, November, 10 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Fondo Vienna, Congressi , 4 LS. The "present revolution" [War of American Independence], that plunged the colony in a state even more miserable than the previous [Seven Years'] War, prevented the writer from writing during the past year and from publishing the Jubilee. Many details on the attitude of the clergy and of the people of Canada toward the war (most priests are loyal to the King [of England, George III]). He ordained a priest [possibly L.-J. Bertrand, on 18 Aug. 1776], who had actively participated in the military operations of 1759 and had probably killed. He also also allowed students [of the Séminaire de Québec] to enlist and defend the town of Québec; in the future, they will need special dispensations in order to be ordained. Re PF answer of 26 Feb. 1777. B: 148r. 19 MG 17 - A 25 1789, December, 18 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Congressi: America Antille , 6 LS. A powerful military leader [Prince William Henry] arrived in Placentia, allied himself with [the Dominican E.] Burke, tried to kill the writer (but he was hidden by a friend [Gleeson] for 15 days), then left with the renegade priest Lonergan. Details on the state of religion in Harbour Grace, St. John's, Placentia, Ferryland (Yore [Ewer] is the priest in charge of Ferryland), and the writer's dispute with P. Power. The ill-fated voyage of the writer's brother [M. O'Donel] and another Recollet from Waterford to Newfoundland in 1785. His good relationship with the Governor [Elliot]. He is writing on the same day to the abp. of Dublin [Troy]. 20 MG 40 - D 5 1762 File Public Record Office. High Court of Admiralty Series Prize Papers , HCA 32 Ship: François Louis de Saint-Malo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Inserted the words and sign: colon$ ships MG 17 - A 25 1727, December, 19 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Congressi: Anglia , 6 AL. The dispute between England and Spain with regard to commerce in the West Indies continues, and the merchants of London insist on the fact that the seizure of their ships harms not only their clandestine trade, but also the legitimate trade with the English colonies of America. [The balance of this item deals with England]. 5 MG 17 - A 25 1729, March, 11 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Congressi: Anglia , 6 AL. Many Irish families found it impossible to survive to the famine and left Ireland on 20 ships to settle in the British colonies of North America. [The balance of this item deals with Spain, the West Indies, Gibraltar]. 6 MG 17 - A 25 1729, September, 02 Item Vatican. Archives of the Sacred Congregation "de Propaganda Fide" Series Congressi: Anglia , 6 AL. During the past months 25 ships left northern Ireland to take a number of Protestant families to New England and to other British colonies of North America. Since Catholic families are more accustomed to miseries and sufferings, they prefer to stay in England, where there is a little religious freedom, than to go to those lands, where there is no trace of their religion, the English and Scottish inhabitants being all Presbyterian, Anabaptist and Quaker. [The balance of this item deals with Spain, the East Indies]. 7 MG 17 - A 1 1670, June, 06 Item Vatican. Secret Archives Series Segreteria di Stato, Francia LS., N. to S.d.S.: concerning a Dutch naval captain "Vansseberg" [Heemskerk] who is reported to have made many voyages to America and most recently has discovered a new country there from which he has returned with merchandise. The captain proposes to found a French colony there and the King [of France, Louis XIV] agrees and will provide three ships for the expedition. The King wishes to include Christian missionaries and the N. reports that these may be Capuchins to whom he will grant patents. 8 MG 17 - A 1 1680, November, 04 Item Vatican. Secret Archives Series Segreteria di Stato, Francia Reported that approximately 300 women who led "an evil life" [in Paris] have been forced to embark [on ships] with guards and they are to be sent to the colonies of New France as customarily has been done on other occasions. [ED. 942rv]

I may be reaching but maybe someone can help me. My gg grandfather John Lipsett b-Donegal, Ireland in 1833, left Ireland from 1833-1855. One story is that he and at least one brother went to Alsace-Lorraine , France and then onto Canada. I have been checking French ships and Irish ships to Canada with no success. So here is my question. Would it make sense for my family to go into Germany and leave from there to go to Canada? If any one knows this answer, I sure would appreciate your help, and/or suggestions. Also a ship list for Germany that I may be able to check for this time period. Thank you so much Tonya Lipsett Lebo--U.S.A. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhonda Houston <rfhouston@mindspring.com> To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:29 AM Subject: RE: [CanShipsPre1865] Re: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D Digest V02 #9 > The places for records for Wales and Monmouthshire, (administratively in > England until 1974) to seek information about the Royal Regiment of Wales is > at: > > (1) Anglesey Area Record Office (Gwynedd Archives), Llangefni > > (2) Department of Manuscripts, University College of North Wales Library, > Bangor > > (3) Pulbic Record Office, KEW - (has the County Regimental Returns but the > names listed are without location in the county) and the PRO finding aid for > Militia (1780-1876) is <WO. 13/26-50> > > (Source: Militia Lists and Musters 1757 - 1876: A Directory of Holdings in > the British Isles ed. Jeremy Gibson and Mervyn Medlycott > ISBN# 0806315679 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken MacLean [mailto:kenmaclean1@rogers.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:46 AM > To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Re: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D Digest V02 #9 > > > Have you contacted the Royal Regiment of Wales (24th/41st foot) ? They may > have records of embarkation. > This is their website. > > http://www.rrw.org.uk/regiment/41canada.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:20 AM > Subject: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D Digest V02 #9 > > > > > ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== > Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1535 to 1790 at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== > Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1800 to 1820 at > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp02.shtml > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I am looking for information on my gg grandfather Andrew MUIR and his bride Jane McJerrow who arrived in Halifax NS in 1821 from Scotland. The year is almost certainly correct because they were married in April 1821 in Minnigaff, KKB, Scotland and their first child was born in Halifax 15 Jan 1822. Any information would be most welcome,e.g.; name of the ship, captain, date of arrival, port of departure, other passengers. A cousin of ours has written that they sailed from Newton Stewart but he could not provide a source for this information. Bill Muir Kanata ON

My great grandfather Edward MCDONALD and his wife Mary sailed from Cork, circa 1820, to Prince Edward Island, Canada. Then to Pointe du Chene, Westmorland Co., New Brunswick, where they were the first white settlers. I have reason to believe that they might have come from Kilkenny. Edward's brother, Edmond, also settled in Pointe du Chene, date unknown. I haven't been albe to find them on any ship lists from Ireland to Canada. I'm researching the surnames of HUTCHINSON, MC/MACDONALD, COLE, GALLAGHER, FILLMORE,WRY. Any info about these surnames will be greatly appreciated by me. Kind regards, June MacDonald Halifax, NS, Canada

I am searching for my PFOH ancestry. I have found them as far back as the 1870 U.S. Federal Census living in Warren, Ohio. gggrandfather PFOH, John, born in Germany (1880 census lists Baden) c. 1840, is living with his wife (Murphy), Catherine born in Ireland c. 1838, son John (my ggrandfather) born in Canada c.1859-60, daughters Mary A. born in Canada c. 1864, Elizabeth born in Ohio c.1865, and Roseanne born in Ohio c.1869. I have been thinking that gggrandfather Pfoh emigrated from Baden around 1855 but at the moment I can't confirm that information. That would have made him 15 years old so then there would have been a marriage record as well as birth records in Canada for the two oldest children as well as passenger and immigration records to pursue. I have searched the Ships List as well as Ingeneas with 0 results. I would appreciate any information or helpful hints. Judy ships List

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At 01:35 AM 07/05/2002 -0500, Merriam White wrote: >Looking for clues to ships, possibly military ships from Ireland or Wales >circa 1800. Lt. Richard Bullock and wife, Jane (English) Bullock married in >Affane, Waterford County, Ireland in 1797 at that time Lt. Richard Bullock >was in the His Majesty's Welsh 41st afoot Regiment from Wales. They came to >Canada's east coast with three children from a former marriage. They had one >child in Quebec in 1804 and they traveled around with the unit in Canada >ending up in Carrying Place, Ontario to retire after the War of 1812. > >I do not know where to start looking for ships this early to Canada. I have >read that ships this early did not require manifests but I thought it might >be different with military ships landing in Canada. > >Any help would be appreciated, > >Merriam White >Missouri, USA >merriam@kc.rr.com Merriam, Usually the newspapers of the time were good at recording the coming and going of the military. However, it was usually only the regiment that was mentioned and some of the officers. For example, in 1817 the Quebec Gazette recorded the arrival of the Brig Retrieve with 143 officers and men of the 2d batt. 60th regt. and also the Queen with 201 officers and men of the 2d batt. 60th regt. Regards.. Marjorie Kohli Waterloo, ON Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/

Have you contacted the Royal Regiment of Wales (24th/41st foot) ? They may have records of embarkation. This is their website. http://www.rrw.org.uk/regiment/41canada.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:20 AM Subject: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D Digest V02 #9

The places for records for Wales and Monmouthshire, (administratively in England until 1974) to seek information about the Royal Regiment of Wales is at: (1) Anglesey Area Record Office (Gwynedd Archives), Llangefni (2) Department of Manuscripts, University College of North Wales Library, Bangor (3) Pulbic Record Office, KEW - (has the County Regimental Returns but the names listed are without location in the county) and the PRO finding aid for Militia (1780-1876) is <WO. 13/26-50> (Source: Militia Lists and Musters 1757 - 1876: A Directory of Holdings in the British Isles ed. Jeremy Gibson and Mervyn Medlycott ISBN# 0806315679 -----Original Message----- From: Ken MacLean [mailto:kenmaclean1@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:46 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Re: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D Digest V02 #9 Have you contacted the Royal Regiment of Wales (24th/41st foot) ? They may have records of embarkation. This is their website. http://www.rrw.org.uk/regiment/41canada.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:20 AM Subject: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-D Digest V02 #9 ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1535 to 1790 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Tim, According to http://www.welcometopoole.co.uk/links.htm the borough of Poole is in West Dorset County, England. This, along with the Poole Borough site, is a must-see for all interested in Poole and all it can offer. 'West Dorset', an area of outstanding natural beauty, is situated in England's West Country. West Dorset offers heritage coastline, hidden valleys and picturesque villages with pretty thatched cottages. A great place to unwind in any season. The Dorset Page Most of Dorset has been officially designated an area of outstanding natural beauty. But there is more to Dorset than the beauty of the countryside. Dorset is also the centre of both the Anglo Saxon kingdom and Thomas Hardy's fictional Wessex. Within the local Record Offices of England and Wales, these record offices and archives locally have most of what the PRO has, with the exception that the record offices and archives have bapistisms and church records that the PRO doesn't have. So, since your Joseph Notting (b. 1773, Poole, England) resided in West Dorset, the record office that should have records on him, would be this one: Dorset Record office Bridgport Road Dorchester DT1 1RP Tel 01305-250550 Fax 01305-257184 Since it has been such a long time since 1773, it won't hurt to see if you can get a map of Dorset County dated 1770 and compare the area Dorset is in today, just to see if any of the boundaries have changed...I believe you will find some very interesting things within this Record Office...If you can tell me something more like why he left for Canada, I might be able to find where he might be noted within the PRO or some other archive in England. You might even send an inquiry to this address and ask about your Joseph Notting: Colchester Historical Society Museum 29 Young Street Truro, N.S. B2N 5C5 (phone 895-6284) I will tell you for more extensive information and resources which will blow you away that there are so many and written down at that, would to invest in the small book by Terrence M. Punch, C.G. (C) with George F. Sanborn Jr., F. A. S. G. This paperback book with only 165 pages, that Terry Punch wrote & edited, is called "Genealogist's Handbook for Atlantic Canada Research" and further authored the chapter about Nova Scotia. All you need is the ISBN# (International Standard Book Number) to give to your librarian and you will have performed all her/his work for her/him to obtain the book (found on the title page) via interlibrary loan, or this is also, the way to be sure to get this book via the bookstore. ISBN# 0880820675 The other provinces were written by: New Brunswick: Daniel R. Johnson, CG(C) Newfoundland and Labrador: Elsa H. Flack, CG(C) Prince Edward island: Orlo L. Jones, CG(C) Acadians, Stephen A. White, CG(C) This book lists province, county, civil parishes, and for Nova Scotia it uses rural and urban municipalities. There are listings and dates for each listing of: historical overview major repositories vital records census records land records probate records church registers cemetery reocres immigration records newspapers societies and libraries periodicals bibliography Another terrific book which will give you some insights as to where the same GENERAL information that you may need is within North America that the PRO has within its walls, is this book: "Genealogical Research in England's Public Record Office: A Guide for North Americans" by Judith Prowse Reid and Simon Fowler (Fowler has written many books/references on how to use the PRO) The ISBN # is 0806316322 It is a hardback book with 161 pages (which includes the index, bibilography) and is jam-packed with information about where to look in North American for the same reference information that the PRO holds (NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC INFORMATION, BUT GENERAL INFORMATION) AND gives a listing of PRO Research Information Finding Aids (numbered leaflets that can be requested of the PRO when you can't find what you will be looking for within the local county offices where Joseph Notting lived in England in 1773. Hope I've been of some assistance. Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: Tim Notting [mailto:tnotting@shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:13 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Possible ship record pre 1800's to Nova Scotia? I know this is a long shot but maybe some kind soul out there might have access to any records of this time period. And maybe, have more information from other books that documented the Notting and Harris family in the 1770-90s. The person I am looking for more information is my ancestor Joseph Notting (b. 1773, Poole, England, d. January 23, 1795, Truro, Colchester Co., Nova Scotia, Canada) came to Canada sometime in the 1790s. His gravestone is marked that he was born in Poole England. I have not been able to connect him with any Notting families in England of that time. I can only guess that he either traveled from England to the USA and then onto Nova Scotia, or he traveled directly from England. Joseph Notting married Margaret Harris in June 1793, Pictou County, Nova Scotia, Canada. She is the daughter of Dr. John Harris. Dr. John Harris was among the early settlers of Truro, although he did not come until a few years after the Township was granted.  He and his family were one of the six families that sailed from Philadelphia in the month of May, 1767, sent by a company to settle in Pictou. I got this information from the book titled, "Historical and Genealogical Record of Colchester County, Nova Scotia" What I need to know is how Joseph Notting got to Nova Scotia and if there is any ship record or something else that is historically documented that might lead me in the right direction. Thank you for your time. Regards Tim Notting British Columbia Canada My Family Tree website is at: http://homepage.mac.com/tno/wc_toc.htm ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1850 to 1865 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp04.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Looking for clues to ships, possibly military ships from Ireland or Wales circa 1800. Lt. Richard Bullock and wife, Jane (English) Bullock married in Affane, Waterford County, Ireland in 1797 at that time Lt. Richard Bullock was in the His Majesty's Welsh 41st afoot Regiment from Wales. They came to Canada's east coast with three children from a former marriage. They had one child in Quebec in 1804 and they traveled around with the unit in Canada ending up in Carrying Place, Ontario to retire after the War of 1812. I do not know where to start looking for ships this early to Canada. I have read that ships this early did not require manifests but I thought it might be different with military ships landing in Canada. Any help would be appreciated, Merriam White Missouri, USA merriam@kc.rr.com

Fred, It looks to me like your family were loyalists!! I did this searching backwards because I inserted you surname RUSH into this search engine and this is what I got (plus 112 other RUSH(s)) I didn't list and you will have to look at yourself. You can following the directions and find out how you can get all of the information for which this site offers. Here's the search engine! http://www.ingeneas.com/ingeneas/index.html Rhonda Houston ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Andrew RUSH Age: 39 Year: 1782 Price: $5.00US; $6.15Cdn. Description: War Office Records: Returns of Detachments & Companies of the KINGS RANGERS AND LOYAL RANGERS Stationed in Lower Canada (Quebec). Typical records in this document contain the following: name, rank, age, physical size, time of service & country of origin of the non-commisioned officers, drummers, and privates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- James Cobus RUSH Age: 81 Year: 1875 Price: $5.00US; $6.15Cdn. Description: Parliamentary Sessional Papers - Statement showing MILITIAMEN OF 1812-15 (who have applied to receive the gratuity voted by Parliament in 1875). Typical records in this document contain the following: name of militiaman; age in 1875; rank in 1812-15; corps or divison in which he served; current place of residence; through whom application was made (if so); case number and amount paid, and, if not paid, reason for ineligibility. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Ann Rush Age: 69 Year: 1901 Price: $6.50US; $7.99Cdn. Description: 1901 census of Prince Edward Island: (only those giving a year of immigration to Canada and who were born outside of Canada are included). Typical records in this document contain the following information: name; relationship to head of household; marital status; exact birthdate; birthplace; year of immigration; origins; religion; occupation; and, a summary (names and age) of everyone listed in the household. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ George Bainbridge Rush Age: 28 Year: 1861 Price: $6.00US; $7.38Cdn. Description: Marriage Registers of Ontario, Canada (1858-1869) -- YORK COUNTY -- Typical records in this document contain: name of groom and bride, their age, residence, and place of birth, date and place of marriage, names of parents, names of witnesses; occupation of the groom, and may also include residence of witnesses. (NOTE: each party is indexed separately in the database, therefore, one need only order one of the spouses to receive full information on both). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Thomas RUSH Age: 40 Year: 1883 Price: $5.00US; $6.15Cdn. Description: LIST OF PASSENGERS: aboard vessels arriving at the port of HALIFAX, Nova Scotia. Typical records in this document contain the following data: port and date of embarkation, ship's name, port and date of arrival; passenger's name, profession or occupation, marital status, age(or whether adult, child or infant), place at which passenger has contracted to land and/or destination in North America. (Note: when ordering, a summary will be provided of names and ages of other passengers travelling on the SAME ticket number). OTHER IMPORTANT NOTES: Although all these ships arrived at Halifax and the passenger lists were there submitted, some were also bound for other ports such as St.John's,(Newfoundland), Portland,(Maine), Baltimore, Philadelphia, and New York. Passengers 12 years of age and over are listed as 'adults'. Most passengers arriving at the port of Halifax either travelled inland by other means or continued by ship to other destinations throughout North America. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Samuel Rush Age: 70 Year: 1901 Price: $6.00US; $7.38Cdn. Description: 1901 census of Ontario: BOTHWELL Census DISTRICT [southern Lambton and northern Kent counties] (only those who were born outside of Canada are included). Typical records in this document contain the following information: name; relationship to head of household; marital status; exact birthdate; birthplace; origins; religion; occupation; and, a summary (names and age) of everyone listed in the household. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Patrick RUSH Age: 65 Year: 1901 Price: $6.50US; $7.99Cdn. Description: 1901 census of Quebec: WRIGHT COUNTY (only those giving a year of immigration to Canada and who were born outside of Canada are included). Typical records in this document contain the following information: name; relationship to head of household; marital status; birthdate; place of birth; year of immigration; ethnic origin; religion; and, occupation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------ Michael RUSH Age: 40 Year: 1851 Price: $6.00US; $7.38Cdn. Description: 1851 Census of ADDINGTON COUNTY, Ontario - Typical records in this document contain the following information: name; age; sex; place of birth; occupation; marital status; and religion. NOTE: When a transcript of an individual is ordered, summary data consisting of names and ages of all others in the household will also be provided. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Fred Rush [mailto:fredrush@onlink.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:18 PM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Surname Rush Hello Listers I am new to this list & would appreciate anyone who would have & share any info on RUSH descendants arriving in Canada before 1865. Thanking you in advance. Fred W. 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Hello Listers I am new to this list & would appreciate anyone who would have & share any info on RUSH descendants arriving in Canada before 1865. Thanking you in advance. Fred W. Rush-researching RUSH in Canada & England.

http://www.shipindex.org/ Index to Ships in Books -- Search Page http://www.shipindex.org/search.asp Clinton (c1780) 75 MacGregor, David R. Merchant Sailing Ships, 1775-1815: Sovereignty of Sail. London: Conway Maritime, 1985. More info... MacGregor, David R. Merchant Sailing Ships, 1775-1815: Sovereignty of Sail. London: Conway Maritime, 1985. "Figures in italics refer to page numbers of illustrations -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Strocel [mailto:mstrocel@telus.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:38 PM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] "The Clinton" Looking for the passenger list of the "Clinton" Apparently this ship transported soldiers of the 71st Regiment to Canada after the American War. Private John Falconer arrived in Halifax in 1786... mstrocel@telus.net ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1820 to 1850 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp03.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I know this is a long shot but maybe some kind soul out there might have access to any records of this time period. And maybe, have more information from other books that documented the Notting and Harris family in the 1770-90s. The person I am looking for more information is my ancestor Joseph Notting (b. 1773, Poole, England, d. January 23, 1795, Truro, Colchester Co., Nova Scotia, Canada) came to Canada sometime in the 1790s. His gravestone is marked that he was born in Poole England. I have not been able to connect him with any Notting families in England of that time. I can only guess that he either traveled from England to the USA and then onto Nova Scotia, or he traveled directly from England. Joseph Notting married Margaret Harris in June 1793, Pictou County, Nova Scotia, Canada. She is the daughter of Dr. John Harris. Dr. John Harris was among the early settlers of Truro, although he did not come until a few years after the Township was granted.  He and his family were one of the six families that sailed from Philadelphia in the month of May, 1767, sent by a company to settle in Pictou. I got this information from the book titled, "Historical and Genealogical Record of Colchester County, Nova Scotia" What I need to know is how Joseph Notting got to Nova Scotia and if there is any ship record or something else that is historically documented that might lead me in the right direction. Thank you for your time. Regards Tim Notting British Columbia Canada My Family Tree website is at: http://homepage.mac.com/tno/wc_toc.htm

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These within are some of the books/references one can use to find a particular ship/vessel go on the surface of the water....boats usually go under the water. Take a look at all these urls/websites...you will be amazed at some of the resources. Rhonda Houston http://www.iws.net/wier/FSbooks.html http://www.iws.net/wier/FSbooks.html#HDR2 http://www.iws.net/wier/FSbooks.html#HDR7 Ships: Descriptions by Period, Class, or Individual Ship Ship Design, Ship building, and Outfitting. Paintings of Ships and Events Society of the Times, Ashore and Afloat This website is kept up by Peabody Essex Museum. Naval History http://www.usni.org/hrp/hrp.html The U.S. Naval Institute Reference Services Researchers may use the reference library during normal working hours. The library is not a lending library. Reference specialists are also available for assistance. Researchers should make advance appointments whenever possible. The division staff cannot make lengthy searches. The division maintains the collection as a reference library and may have to refer the researcher to other sources. It does not function as a research agency and has no on-line sources. Requests for reference information about articles that appeared in Proceedings or Naval History should be accompanied by the title, author, and issue. Requests are also accepted for searches on particular subjects. Photocopying Services Photocopies of materials requested are available. If you are not a USNI member, there is a $10.00 research charge plus $.50 per photocopy page. If you are a USNI member, there is an $8.00 research charge. The photocopies cost $.40 per page. Mailing Address: U.S. Naval Institute History Division 291 Wood Rd. Annapolis, MD 21402-5034 Phone: (410) 295-1023 Hours of Service: Monday through Friday 8:00 A.M. to 4:30 P.M. (closed on legal holidays) How do I find this ship's history? "I'm looking for some biographical information on the British ship H.M.S Racoon, which sailed along the North American Pacific Northwest coast in the 18th century." Now you're getting into real research! What you need to do here is go to the nearest major naval research library and install yourself for a few days. No, Virginia, most information is not on the internet. There probably have been 10,000 books, or more, printed in English, related to maritime history in the past two centuries. Many survive in limited copies in a few libraries and have too limited or special appeal to ever be put online. I will try to add the names of major naval research libraries here soon. This web site began as an outgrowth of one of several pastimes at home in the evening, and now folks are asking hard questions! (No I don't have any records of your great grandfather's uncle who was mate on the "Young America.") I am not a professor of history, just a dedicated amateur reader. Other places to look: U.S. Navy Naval History Center http://www.history.navy.mil/ Web Site List from preceeding http://www.history.navy.mil/nhc9.htm Merchant Marine Books (all periods) http://www.usmm.org/books.html U.S. Coast Guard Bibliographies and Research Aids http://www.uscg.mil/h_biblio/h_bibres.html Nautical Research Guild http://www.naut-res-guild.org/