If one wants to pin down the ISBN# one can go online to http://shop.barnesandnoble.com one can use the book search finder. Usually when I only know the name of the book, I use this search engine to assist me with finding out what the ISBN # is. Here's some library assistance for others who may want to find this book: Irish Migrants in the Canadas by Bruce S. Elliott Format: Paperback, 2nd ed., 408pp. ISBN: 0773523219 -- this is usually all one needs to obtain the book. Publisher: McGill-Queens University Press Pub. Date: December 2001 Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: Carol Collins [mailto:collinscarol@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 12:40 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Re: Carp, Ontario Hi: You may also want to check Bruce Elliott's "Irish Migrants in the Canadas". He traces County Tipperary settlers, but the book does have a section on Lanark County, including the Carp valley. Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1535 to 1790 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

By the way, for those of you who don't understand what I have been talking about concerning what an ISBN NUMBER is: An ISBN# is called an "International Standard Book Number" which is utilized internationally...a particular number (10 numbers) is specified for each book all over the world. this number is always found on the title page of the book. If you give this book to any book seller or librarian any place in the world, you will be able to obtain that same specific book any where in the world...pretty neat huh?? That's what an ISBN is and if you give this number, which is usually found on the title page of every book, you will have done all the librarian's work for them...they will love you! All one has to do is call a library of the place they want to know something about, get the county's history ISBN (of the book they want or perhaps was recommended to them to learn about so to speak, which will tell historically, economically, and socially what has actually taken place through the development of a specific county, and ask for the ISBN# - Internation Standard Book Number) for the book.) Then go to your local library and put in a request for this book by merely giving the place of the library, phone # if you have it and the place of the library. Giving all of these is helpful to the libraian, but what really pins down the book is the book's ISBN# and YOU HAVE DONE ALL THE librarian's work for her/him...and all you have to do is wait about a week or two for the book you want! Rhonda Houston

Olive Tree Genealogy announces more new ships passenger lists online! The Superior, 1847 from Ireland to Philadelphia PA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/pa_superior1847.shtml The Heshell, 1847 from Ireland to Philadelphia PA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/pa_heshell1847.shtml The Superior, 1849 from Ireland to New Orleans, LA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/la_superior1849.shtml The Marchioness 1847 from Ireland to St. John NB http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nb_marchioness1847.shtml Index to ships passenger lists to Pennsylvania is at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_paindex.shtml Index to ships passenger lists to Louisiana is at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_la.shtml Index to ships passenger lists to Canada is at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml Index of ships from Ireland to N. America is at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/irish_index.shtml This brings my total number of ships passenger lists and links to lists to 1,347 Good luck, have fun and hope you find an ancestor or two! Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze -- * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/usa_genealogy/ * My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net

Well, Someone can answer those questions.... Carleton County, (Currently Exists) Originally part of Dalhousie District; Named for Sir Guy Carleton, Lord Dorchester Carleton Place, Beckwith & Ramsay Townships, Lanark County (Currently Exists) Named in 1830 after the street Carlton Place in Scotland Carleton West Township, Carleton County (Currently Exists) Formerly the townships of Fitzroy, Huntley and Torbolton (received when I entered into my Canadian search engine (carleton +record +office) BOOK LIST - Carleton County, Ontario Carleton County District Map 1836 District Map 1845 County Map 1852 Carleton County Marriages- Marriages for Carleton County, Ontario from 1869 to 1873. Compiled by Jeff Stewart & Beverley Lee. Transc http://www.globalgenealogy.com/ccarlt.htm Documents relating to America at Hampshire Record Office ... of General Sir Guy Carleton (Governor of Canada ... by the Hampshire Record Office. http://www.hants.gov.uk/record-office/us.html gen_20010809 ... 1849, 68. @NS047631@ 45. .The Family of Jeremiah Carleton of Lyndeboro, N.H. and Barre, Vt. ...NEGH Register: Carleton-Wilson, Volume: Volume 106,. Moriarty, G. ... http://www.thelemons.org/names/WC_SRC.htm Wills and Estate Records - Carleton County SECTION 2(d) CARLETON COUNTY (Courthouse at Ottawa) WILLS AND ESTATE RECORDS SUBJECT CATEGORY: COURT RECORDS: Wills and Estate Records RECORD GROUP TITLE: COURT RECORDS SUB-GROUP HEADING: SURROGATE CO http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/wills-5.htm http://globalgenealogy.com/books/899main.htm BOOK LIST, County Marriage Registers of Ontario - By Elizabeth ... ... parents and witnesses. Carleton County Map, showing ... July 1st. The Office of the Registrar ... created to record all registration ... Huron County Marriages- Marriage ... (FROM a BooK) Carleton County Marriages- Marriages for Carleton County, Ontario from 1869 to 1873. Transcriptions of Carleton County marriages from the records of the Office of the Registrar General for Ontario from July 1869 until the implementation of numbered registrations in 1873. Thorough index of all names, including the parents and witnesses. Carleton County Map, showing the places mentioned in the registrations. List of ministers and priests with their denominations and where they served. Selection of repositories, resource centres and societies pertaining to Middlesex County. Carleton County Marriages- Marriages for Carleton County, Ontario from 1869 to 1873. Compiled by Jeff Stewart & Beverley Lee. Transcriptions of Carleton County marriages from the records of the Office of the Registrar General for Ontario from July 1869 until the implementation of numbered registrations in 1873. Thorough index of all names, including the parents and witnesses. Carleton County Map, showing the places mentioned in the registrations. List of ministers and priests with their denominations and where they served. Selection of repositories, resource centres and societies pertaining to Middlesex County. Detailed referencing and guidance for those wishing to access the registrations on microfilm. Marriages involving Carleton County residents may have taken place in neighboring counties. 197pp., 8.5" x 11", 2000, **ISBN 0-9683709-9-3. (WITH THIS **NUMBER, GO TO THE LIBRARIAN AND ASK FOR THIS BOOK. SHE/HE CAN OBTAIN IT FOR YOU VIA INTERLIBRARY LOAN) http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enbcarlet/ ... Research Links .CanadianLinks Carleton County Gen Web ... Brunswick Orchard Nothumberland County GenWeb NWT ... Census Project Public Record Office of Northern ... http://nbgenlinks.new-brunswick.net/Page_Support.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcarlet/index.htm#AboutCarletonCounty Carleton County is located in western New Brunswick adjoining the State of Maine and is partitioned by the Saint John River. The county was established from York County in 1832. Until 1850, Carleton County covered the area of the present day counties of Carleton, Victoria and Madawaska. Carleton County Act, 1831-32 and the Birth of Carleton County Carleton County Lookups Carleton County, New Brunswick Lookups Carleton County Home Page View Queries View Surnames Reference Books & Resources Volunteer email Address New Brunswick Birth Registers Index, 1801-1899 Online PANB Carleton County, New Brunswick Marriage http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbcarlet/carleton_lookups.html http://wwnet.com/~treesrch/ontario.html A Select Index to Names of Loyalists and their Associates Contained in the British Headquarters Papers, New York City 1774-1783 The Carleton Papers The Papers The British Headquarters Papers comprise about 30,000 manuscript pages and are available on microfilm at the National Archives of Canada. The collection of papers is referred to as the British Headquarters Papers, New York City 1774-1783 or the Carleton Papers. The records were kept by successive Commanders-in Chief of the British Army in North America during the American Revolution. They document the conduct of the war, the civil administration, and the lives, not only of the British Military, but also the civilians and loyalist soldiers who passed through New York. The Project The King's Name Project is a project of the Sir Guy Carleton Branch, United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada, Ottawa, Canada. The purpose of the project was to index, selectively, names of loyalists and associated people found in the British Headquarters Papers. The project involved several researchers reading the microfilm and creating an index card, containing pertinent information, for each loyalist name. There are about 50,000 index cards available covering names from A to Z Importance of the Index This index is an exceptional guide to information for anyone interested in the Loyalists (white or black), soldiers and civilian refugees, or German soldiers who passed through New York during the American Revolution. It will be especially valuable for genealogists as well as historians, ethnographers and other specialists who formerly had only a short-entry, general index to help them research. Now specific data will be easy to locate and manipulate. Which Ancestors? The index can be used to find ancestors who passed through New York City during the Revolution, ancestors who fled or were evacuated, ancestors sent to Canada under specific orders, ancestors who were soldiers of a British Regiment demobilized in Canada, ancestors who were soldiers of a German Regiment, "rebels" who: wrote letters to Headquarters, whose property was confiscated, or who were imprisoned. Black History This index is invaluable for Black History because it contains many names of individuals, previously scattered throughout the documents: loyalist soldiers, and freed or enslaved civilian refugees. The index also includes the so-called "Book of Negroes" which is a register of refugees of colour giving references to 2,372 people many of whom went to Nova Scotia. There is extensive information about them such as their names, sex, health, distinguishing marks, status (free or slave), origins, names of their white associates, and the ships used to carry them. Carleton's Loyalist Index and The Book of Negroes The Sir Guy Carleton Branch has completed the task of taking the basic hand written information from the King's Name Project index cards and has entered the data into a computer database. The database is available in dbf (DBASE III+), xls (EXCEL), and csv formats which can be imported into most current database programs and can also be read by spreadsheet programs. The CSV format can be imported into most recent word processors. The Sir Guy Carleton Branch now has the computerized version of the index available for sale. CD-ROM Version - for PC or MAC Carleton's Loyalist Index - Order Form Carleton's Loyalist Index - Example The Book of Negroes - Example E-Mail: John Ruch ds082@freenet.carleton.ca Sir Guy Carleton Branch United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada 1805 - 71 Somerset St., W. Ottawa ON K2P 2G2 Canada Updated November 15, 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Carleton County Cemeteries For QUESTIONS: the Webmaster of Carleton County's email address: gwsites@canada.com Ten Cemeteries of Fitzroy Twp. (Storey, Kinburn Baptist, Hunt, Lowry, St. Pauls Ang., McMillan, Landon, St. Michaels RC, Original RC, Smith Family, Mohr more hits from: http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/publications/carleton.html Family Web Pages Family Web Pages There are several people who have created family web pages. This page is for those who would like to share this knowledge. All such sites will be subject to the access restrictions of the authors/owners. Carleton County GenWeb is Found by: HotBot, MSN Web Search http://www.rootsweb.com/~oncarlet/fampgs.html Carleton County (Ontario, Canada) Information Carleton County's boundaries were*: north: Ottawa River, Quebec Renfrew County east: Russell County south: Dundas Grenville Counties west: Lanark County Counties of Ontario Index http://members.aol.com/OntarioGen/carlinfo.htm Welcome to Fitzroy Harbour, Ontario, Canada (Good one for asking questions and getting a referral) home of the Fitzroy Peeper and featuring local news, sports, events, seniors, and other local information. http://www.fitzroyharbour.com/ West Carleton Township Public Library (IF YOU CAN CONTACT THE LADY BELOW, AND ASK FOR THE ISBN# FOR WHATEVER BOOK YOU WANT ABOUT WHATEVER SUBJECT, AND THEN, GIVE YOUR LIBRARIAN THAT SPECIFIC ISBN# YOU WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU SO DESIRE WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO SO AS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION PERTAINING TO CARP.) servicing the communities of Carp, Constance and Buckham's Bay, Dunrobin, Fitzroy Harbour, Galetta, Kinburn, Marathon, and Woodlawn in the National Capital region. http://www.igs.net/~westcarlib/ Carp Branch Library 3911 Carp Carp ON K0A 1L0 (613) 839-5412 Library's Manager: Dorothy McGinn (dorothy.mcginn@library.ottawa.on.ca) -----Original Message----- From: Ripus1@aol.com [mailto:Ripus1@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 4:23 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CanShipsPre1865] Re: Carp, Ontario Carp is in the western part of Carleton County. Don't know whether Ottawa-Carleton branch genealogical society can answer questions the list has or not regarding Carp. Bill in Virginia ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Read about immigration to Canada before 1865 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi: You may also want to check Bruce Elliott's "Irish Migrants in the Canadas". He traces County Tipperary settlers, but the book does have a section on Lanark County, including the Carp valley. Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Carp is in the western part of Carleton County. Don't know whether Ottawa-Carleton branch genealogical society can answer questions the list has or not regarding Carp. Bill in Virginia

Hello, These are my families that have immigrated through Canada. The Bell family arrived 1850 or 1851 and settled in St. Catharines, Ont, prior to moving to Michigan in 1864. Family consisted of Hamilton and Jane, with their four sons, Samuel, James, William and John Alexander Bell, who was born 1851 in St. Catharines. William Dredge Hawkins, Mary Ann Goddard Hawkins and their four children came in 1842. The youngest child Martha died at Montreal at age 2. Her death was the only clue that they stayed in Canada while William worked in the shipping yard, before moving across Lake Erie to settle in Trumbull County, Ohio. Edward and Phoebe Jones Thorpe left Leitrim Co. Ireland with four children. They had two more while in Canada and two more after arriving in Geauga Co., Ohio in 1835. I am very interested if anyone else is researching family that arrived through Canada with common names. Sincerely, Sue Bell < Suebell913@aol.com>

Rhonda -- I don't mind your posting the "Cove of Corke" public reply. I replied because I was interested in learning where the sailed 6th April from Cove of Cork info came from. -----Original Message----- From: RC Brooks [mailto:rcbrooks@acadia.net] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:57 PM To: AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-REV] Cove of Corke This question was answered by the gentleman above from Maine on the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com concerning Cove of Corke. This is the information given by Bob Brooks that gave such wonderful information that I thought all on this list would benefit from: I ask if I could have permission to repost his message and this is what he had to say on Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:57 PM The question was asked if there was a passenger list for British transport ships and I wanted you all to see the documentation and the list of ships this gentleman from Maine has been able to document. I am also on this list and it never ceases to amaze me how precise this gentlman posts his information and documents his information. The information is awesome!! Rhonda Houston ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This was the original question that sparked me to ask for permission: Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of the ships that left the Cove of Corke on April 6, 1776? And a list of the ships' passengers? Looking for information on a John Joyce, of Ireland, who was 24 years old at the time for whom I'd like to know what ship he was on and any further information. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Joyce's diary begins: "April 6th Sailed from the Cove of Cork in Company with a large fleet for North America." I know know he went to Quebec in the convoy escorted by HMS Carysfort & HMS Pearl. I think he was either supercargo or crew on one of the transports. He reported the battles of Trois Rivieres (8 June 1776) and Valcour Island (11 October 1776). Just be advised that my reply only addresses the two convoys which left from Cork on 5 & 8 April 1776. HMS Juno (32 guns/220 men) & HMS Blonde (32 guns/220 men) left 7 April 1776 from Spithead [Portsmouth] with 20 transports carrying German troops and 8 ordnance storeships. The were joined at Plymouth by another 7 transports carrying the 21st regiment which arrived at Quebec on 1 June. There were 33 transports, 2 storeships and a hospital ship escorted by HMS Flora (32 guns/220 men) from the Clyde with the 42d (Black Watch) and two battalions of the 71st (Fraser's highlanders). Six troop transports were captured by the Americans (1 ship = 42nd; 5 ships =71st) largely because the convoy was sent to Boston which had been evacuated and the convoy became separated in a storm and, later, in the fog. In addition there were two very large convoys of the Hessians -- I think they totalled something like 107 sail. Then a large number of 1775 transports had been detained and made up the fleet which evacuated Howe's army from Boston to Halifax, then brought them from Halifax to New York. I think this number was around 120 sail. Then you had a few die-hard merchants tagging along trying to earn a profit on their private cargoes. Sorry, but you won't find what you'd like to find. Passenger lists for British transport ships simply can not be found today. There was no requirement to submit them to the government as as all the ships were leased, it is something kept by the lessor so anythin preserved would be inprivate papers. There were two convoys which sailed from Cork around 6 April 17761/-- HMS Greyhound (28) with 10 sail for Boston. "Officially" sailed 5 April.2/-- HMS Caryfort (28) & HMS Pearl (32) with 41 sail (or so) for Quebec. "Officially" sailed 8 April. Dates are precise but only when one understands the calendar in use because there is half-day difference between the sea calendar and the civil or land calendar. The sea calendar starts at noon and the civil calendar at midnight, 12 hours later. This means a landsman reporting a morning sailing on 6 April is the same the ship's log (sea calendar) recording sailing in the second half (morning) of 5 April. "Official" sailing dates always follow the date of embarkation and frequently predate physical departure from the inner harbor. I don't know exactly where they embarked but I suspect it was nearer Cobh (Queenstown) rather than all the way into Corcaigh (Cork). 1/-- SUMMARY HMS Greyhound was a a newly commissioned (21 Oct 1775) 6th Rate (28 gun/200 men) frigate. She sailed 11 Mar from Spithead to Cork but she put in at Plymouth where she departed 21 Mar 1776 and arrived at Cork on 23 Mar 1776. Greyhound "officially" sailed from Cork with her convoy for Boston on April 5th. Off course Boston had been evacuated before Greyhound's departure. Greyhound somehow heard of the evacuation and diverted to Halifax where she arrived the morning of 16 May. [London Gazette, issue of 13-16 April 1776] "Extract of a letter from Corke, April 6 . . . This day sailed from hence his Majesty's ship Grayhound, Capt. Dickson, with ten store ships, and vicuallers under her convoy, with troops, stores, &c., for Boston. Wind N.E." The vessels which sailed under the convoy of the Greyhound included: Ordnance Storeships: Elizabeth [John Toone, master] Russian Merchant Charming Sally Hope [Alexander Lumsdale, master, ----- Mather, owner, captured by Americans] Army Victuallers Waters Mars Sally Bell Howe with Naval Provisions Levant The above comes from an enclosure to a letter dated 18 April 1776 sent by First Secretary of the Admiralty Philip Stephens to Vice Admiral Molyneux Shuldham via HM Armed Vessel Canceaux. [Ref: UK/PRO, ADM2/551, f.457-65] The Hope, Ordnance storeship, was captured 17 May 1776 by Washington's schooner Franklin, Captain John Mugford. It was reported: ". . . She came out the fourth of April with nine Sail of transports, under convoy of a Frigate; I cannot learn any important intelligence by her; the Master says there are but about one hundred Soldiers on board these transports, and that they are laden with provision and warlike stores for the Kings Troops. . . ." [MGen Artemas Ward to G. Washington, 17 May 1776, Wahington Papers, Library of Congress] If John Joyce was in this convoy, he fit into one of three categories: (1)navy personel [Greyhound], (2) army personal [one of the 100 recruits set out], or (3) civilian [seaman or supercargo on one of the transports]. If Army personel, the he would have been assigned to one of the regiments stationed at Boston. In July 1775, those troops included: 1st Brigade: BGen Earl Percy 23rd, 59th, 44th and 4th 2nd Brigade: BGen Robertson 5th, 45th, 63rd, 35th 3rd Brigade: BGen Pigott 38th, 1st Bn Marines, 47th and 10th 4th Brigade: BGen Jones 18th, 65th, 49th, 2nd Bn Marines, 40th. 5th Brigade: BGen Grant 3rd Bn Artiullery, 43rd, 52nd & 22nd 2/-- SUMMARY HMS Caryfort, Captain Robert Fanshaw, was a 6th Rate (28 gun/200 men)frigate commisioned 13 Mar 1775. HMS Pearl, Captain Thomas Wilkinson was a new 5th rate (32 guns/220 men) frigate commissioned 8 Nov 1775. The smaller vessel had the senior captain which is why HMS Caryfort was the lead vessel. They officially" sailed 8 April and arrived at the Cul du Sac, Quebec, on 26 May (27 sail) and 27 May (2 frigates and 12 sail). Five sail, separated in the fog off Newfoundland, were missing on 29 May when Catain Fanshaw wrote his report to London. I believe that the seven regiments transported in this convoy were the 31st plus six of these seven regiments: 9th, 20th, 24th, 29th, 34th, 53rd, 62nd. The 21st regiment sailed earlier with Gen. John Burgoyne and his Brunswick and Hannau mercenaries The Speke, hospital ship, was orginally scheduled tohave sailed with that convoy. There are two lists of the vessels in the official convoy. The first, attached to Robert Fanshaw's 11 March 1776 orders [UK/PRO, ADM 2/100, f.477-80] include: "To carry the Six Battalions which are to be embarked at Cork." "Order'd to Cork from the River Thames" Providence (1st) Charming Sally Caesar Favorite [1st] Champion Lucretia Amitys Succession Sarah Kitty London Gale Rosseau "Ditto from Plymouth" Woodcock Christie Ostenbotten Speedwell "Ditto from Portsmouth. NB. The first Seven are lately returned from Gibraltar & the others from Minorca" Adamant Lively Fidelity Myrtle Favorite [2nd] Kent John King George Friendship Garland Henry Success's Increase Britannia [1st] Grace Lord North "Ordered to Cork from the River Clyde" Prince George Brilliant Sisters Britannia [2nd] "To take on board the 31st Regmt in the Clyde & then repair to Cork." "In the Clyde." Lilly (1st) Mermaid Patty Rainbow Hunter Morisinia Lilly (2d) Boyd "Order'd from the Thames to Cork.' Speke -- Hospital ship. The second list was attached to the 18 Apr 1776 Stepens to Shuldham letter cited above: Lucretia Rosseau Fidelity Caesar Britannia (1st) Kitty Britannia (2d) Favorite (1st) Henry Adamant Woodcock Sisters Ostenbotten Speedwell Favorite (2d) Gale Champion John Lilly (1st) Mermaid Rainbow Hunter Thetis Lilly (2d) Momimia Myrtle London Christie Charming Sally Grace Amity's Succession Success's Increase Garland Lively Friendship Elizabeth Kent Providence Patty Sarah King George. The Thetis was a victualler which sprung a leak and was supposed to have put into a Spanish port for repairs. She was part of the convoy under Commodore Peter Parker intended to capture Charlestown SC. The Speke, hospital ship, departed Cork later in a small convoy under HMS Ranger. If John Joyce was in this coinvoy, he probably was a member of one of the regiments. Each of these regiments was authorized 677 men, 60 women, 12 servants and 90 tons of baggage. I hope this helps narrow your problem. Bob Brooks, retired downeast on the coast of Maine Hope you enjoyed this! Rhonda Houston

Carol: There are a few similarities in the John Clark we are both looking for. My John Clark(e) immigrated in 1833 with wife Mary Ann. They had a son born at sea on April 19, 1833, (a surviving twin) and named him Daniel Marron for the ship's captain who was very kind to them. The family (don't know if there were other siblings) settled in the Peterborough area but apparently moved around in a pattern that would include the corners of Peterborough, Victoria, and Durham Counties. Would "Carp" be in that area? Are you sure your John immigrated in 1829? My John's wife went by Mary but believe her name was Mary Ann because the first granddaughter was named Mary Ann. Birthdate of your John's child born at sea was March 19 and my John's child was born April 19. My dates could be off some but I believe them to be correct. They are handwritten by my grandmother on a family tree document. Let me know if you think it could be the same family. Jeanne

http://www.xmission.com/~jsvare/byu/byu2001.html Cassady, Michael. New York Passenger Arrivals, 1849-1868 : passenger lists / transcribed by Michael Cassady ; Sylvia Nimmo, editor., Papillion, Nebr., c1983. Contains records with index of passengers arriving on 33 ships from England, Ireland, Germany, Denmark, France, Holland, Sweden and Switzerland Denmark http://www.xmission.com/~jsvare/byu/byu2001.html Tutorial: Tracing Your Danish Ancestors and Relatives National Archives of Denmark Rigsarkivet Denmark Landsarkivet for Norrejylland Landsarkivet for Sjalland, Lolland-Falster & Bornholm Landsarkivet for Fyn Landsarkivet for Sonderjylland Genealogical dictionary at Landsarkivet for Sjalland Det Kongelige Bibliotek Kobenhavns Stadsarkiv Dansk Data Arkiv English page Danish Demographic Database Censuses 1787-1916 Probate Index: Thisted, Viborg, Aalborg, & Randers Danish Emigration Archives http://www.emiarch.dk/home.php3 http://www.emiarch.dk/info.php3?l=en Information about Danish Archives - The Danish Emigration Archives Data bases concerning Danish Archives - http://www.emiarch.dk/search.php3?l=en Arhus censuses 1787, 1801, 1835, 1845; marriages 1750-1850 Samfundet dansk genealogi & Personalhistorie DIS-Danmark Slagtsgardsarkivet GRID - Genealogy Resource Index for Denmark Hvem Forsker Hvad SogneLas 2.5 Danish Publications can be obtained within Canadian & US libraries because the International Standard Book Number (ISBN) has been provided: http://www.emiarch.dk/pub.php3?l=en 2000 In Denmark Born - To Canada Sworn. Danish-Canadian Lives eds. (182 pp) Birgit Flemming Larsen ISBN: 87-982912-0-3 125 1998 The Copenhagen Police Records of Emigration 1868-1903 210 1997 A Guide to the North American Collections of The Danish Emigration Archives Bartlett, Nancy Ruth (369p) ISBN: 87-982912-8-9 185 1994 A New Life Anne Lisbeth Olsen and Niels Peter Stilling (224p) ISBN: 87-982912-7-0 125 1993 On Distant Shores eds. Birgit Flemming Larsen (376p) Proceedings of the Marcus Lee Hansen Immigration Conference Aalborg, Denmark, June 29 - July 1 ISBN: 87-982912-6-2 200 1992 Danish Emigration to the U.S.A. eds. Birgit Flemming Larsen og Henning Bender (246p) ISBN: 87-982912-5-4 125 1991 Danish Emigration to Canada eds. Birgit Flemming Larsen og Henning Bender (212p) ISBN: 87-982912-4-6 The Danish Emigration Archives Arkivstrade 1 P.O. BOX 1731 9100 Aalborg Denmark e-mail: emiarch@emiarch.dk Phone (+45) 99 31 42 20 Fax (+45) 98 10 22 48 http://www.mariners-l.freeserve.co.uk/DenmarkPage.html http://www.mariners-l.freeserve.co.uk/Index.html - this one you might keep for further research http://www.mariners-l.freeserve.co.uk/DenmarkArchives.html (source) http://www.mariners-l.freeserve.co.uk/ShipCompanyWebsites.html Company Websites Archives and Research Danish State Archives, Erhvervsarkivet in Aarhus, Vester Alle 12, DK-8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. marine@netcomuk.co.uk - these two share this email to ask your questions: Debbie Beavis or Ted Finch This archive includes the historic photographs and certain other records of the DFDS shipping line. http://www.dis-danmark.dk/indexuk.htm Danish Genealogy Site including Maritime. marine@netcomuk.co.uk - these two share this email to ask your questions: Debbie Beavis or Ted Finch THE WEBSITE OF THE MARINERS MAILING LIST - Danish Genealogy Site including Maritime. -----Original Message----- From: Lucy Krajna [mailto:LKRAJN@ci.mil.wi.us] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:25 PM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] DENMARK Would anyone know of any ships that may have come to Canada before 1849 from Denmark? Thank You ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1850 to 1865 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp04.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

On 11 May 2002 at 10:22, Carol Hunter wrote: > The following were to have immigrated to Canada from Ireland in > 1829: John Clarke together with his wife, the former Ann > Moore.It is rumored that their first son, born March 19, 1829, > was born on board ship. They came from County Cavan and settled > in Carp, Ontario. Any suggestions as to where I can look for > further info? Thank you Carol > I'd really like to check my resources to try to help but where the heck is Carp, Ontario? This is just a friendly suggestion to all subscribers - In order to help others to help *you*, it is wise to give all details possible. In other words, don't make us search for information to narrow down what resources we should use. Most of us don't have the free time to allow us to do that. I checked the Ontario Locator - no place called "Carp" listed. I didn't feel like giving any more time to this without having at a minimum a county in Ontario (and preferably a township) in order to consult my resources on your behalf. So - having said all that, if you'd like to give the list a precise location for "Carp", perhaps some of us can help you. Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze -- * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.geocities.com/usa_genealogy/ * My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net

At 09:59 AM 2002-05-11 -0400, Joanna Waugh wrote: >I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City >landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the >references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the >Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June >1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper >is best for shipping news? >Joanna >Hamilton, Ontario Hi Joanna, On TheShipsList we use the Montreal Gazette a lot, but don't limit ourselves to that newspaper. We have the 1863 Canada ship arrivals from the Toronto Emigrant Office Arrival and Destination Registers, but we have supplemented those with information from newspapers, and the SS&A website, and from the Canada Sessional Papers. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1863.htm There were several ships from German ports arriving in the month of June. Marj Kohli will see your message, but not before Tuesday next. Marj is very familiar with which newspaper contains the best information for which period. Sue --

I need to amend something to my first post. Angus Baxter's "Insearch of Your Canadian Roots" ISBN# 0806314486 also gives locations, addresses, and a list of bibliography of every available provincial archive, location of all available census return, church register, registry for probate matters, division of public trustee adminsters estates, land title office that give information concerning grants, land sales and land transfers titles, Hudson's Bay Company Archives, ships list of passenger (1823 1876), servants sent out (1823-1876), servants in posts (1800-1870), and ships logs (1751-1931), list of Catholic Church parishes that were in existance before civil registration, and list of newspapers throughout the provinces. ONE HECK OF A BOOK....am going to start experimenting on expanding my Canadian research/book comfort circle....will get back to you when I find another book like Baxter's!! Rhonda Houston Some books to look at: Crowder, N. K. "Early Ontarion Settlers (1780-1789) Baltimore, 1993. Crowder, N. K. "Indexes to Ontario Census Records, Torontao, 1987. Keffer, M. Some Ontario References and Sources. Toronto, 1978. Elliot, B. S. "The McCabe List (Irish Settlers in the Ottawa Valley 1828-1850) Toronto, 1992. McFall, D. and J. Land Records in Ontario Registry Offices. Toronto, 1984. and there are 10 other references listed within "Insearch of Your Canadian Roots" by Angus Baxter ISBN# 0806314486 Angus Baxter lists all the public libraries, family history society, museum, and genealogical society's addresses and locations that exist within every Canadian province. -----Original Message----- From: Carol Hunter [mailto:busybeelady@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 10:22 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Ireland to Canada in 1829 The following were to have immigrated to Canada from Ireland in 1829: John Clarke together with his wife, the former Ann Moore.It is rumored that their first son, born March 19, 1829, was born on board ship. They came from County Cavan and settled in Carp, Ontario. Any suggestions as to where I can look for further info? Thank you Carol _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Don't miss TheShipsList.com for a variety of records re immigration http://www.theshipslist.com/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

http://www.geneofun.on.ca/ontariolocator/alpha-c.html Carp Presbyterian Cemetery, Huntley Township, Carleton County (Cemetery Carleton County, (Currently Exists) Originally part of Dalhousie District; Named for Sir Guy Carleton, Lord Dorchester Carleton West Township, Carleton County (Currently Exists) Formerly the townships of Fitzroy, Huntley and Torbolton **Carleton Place, Beckwith & Ramsay Townships, Lanark County (Currently Exists) Named in 1830 after the street Carlton Place in Scotland (**don't need but thought you'd like to view.) Cavan, Caven Township, Peterborough County (Currently Exists) Cavan Township, Peterborough County (Currently Exists) Originally a township in Durham County Peterborough, North Monaghan Township, Peterborough County (Currently Exists) Named in 1826 for Peter Robinson; Became a town in 1850, a city in 1905 Peterborough County, (Currently Exists) Some books to look at: Crowder, N. K. "Early Ontarion Settlers (1780-1789) Baltimore, 1993. Crowder, N. K. "Indexes to Ontario Census Records, Torontao, 1987. Keffer, M. Some Ontario References and Sources. Toronto, 1978. Elliot, B. S. "The McCabe List (Irish Settlers in the Ottawa Valley 1828-1850) Toronto, 1992. McFall, D. and J. Land Records in Ontario Registry Offices. Toronto, 1984. and there are 10 other references listed within "Insearch of Your Canadian Roots" by Angus Baxter ISBN# 0806314486 Angus Baxter lists all the public libraries, family history society, museum, and genealogical society's addresses and locations that exist within every Canadian province. Rhonda Houston -----Original Message----- From: Carol Hunter [mailto:busybeelady@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 10:22 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Ireland to Canada in 1829 The following were to have immigrated to Canada from Ireland in 1829: John Clarke together with his wife, the former Ann Moore.It is rumored that their first son, born March 19, 1829, was born on board ship. They came from County Cavan and settled in Carp, Ontario. Any suggestions as to where I can look for further info? Thank you Carol _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Don't miss TheShipsList.com for a variety of records re immigration http://www.theshipslist.com/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The following were to have immigrated to Canada from Ireland in 1829: John Clarke together with his wife, the former Ann Moore.It is rumored that their first son, born March 19, 1829, was born on board ship. They came from County Cavan and settled in Carp, Ontario. Any suggestions as to where I can look for further info? Thank you Carol _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June 1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper is best for shipping news? Joanna Hamilton, Ontario

Here's a beginning: Lancour, A. H. "Ship's Passenger Lists (1538-1825) New York 1963 which is considered out of print, which means some library holds it; referred as: "A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists, 1538-1825: Being a Guide to Published Lists of Early Immigrants to North America". Lancour, Harold. Ship Passenger Lists: The South 1538-1825 Carl Boyer Format: Paperback, 314pp. ISBN: 0940907267 Publisher: Willow Bend Books Pub. Date: January 1980 http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/newspapers/#QB QUEBEC . Yahoo Index: Quebec . INTERNEST - un quotidien Quebecois interactif. . Journal La VallEe. - information au coeur des Laurentides. Les exemplaires certifies de Saint-Jereme # Mont-Tremblant. . La Voix de l'Est - Le quotidien de Granby depuis 1945. . Le Soleil de Quebec - journal quotidien publie # Quebec. Son site internet contient les nouvelles du jour, un acces interactif e des archives et e un agenda culturel. . Montreal Gazette . National Post . Nouvelles Chomeday News http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/info/aboutus/history.html The Gazette is one of the oldest newspapers on the North American continent. Founded by Fleury Mesplet in 1778, it began as a French-language paper, became bilingual in the late 1700s and ultimately changed to an English-language newspaper in 1822. In 1968, The Gazette joined the Southam chain. in 1996, The Gazette, passed in to the hands of Hollinger when it gained control of the Southam group of newspapers. CanWest Global bought The Gazette and other Southam papers from Hollinger in 2000. Today, the Gazette is the dominant medium for reaching Montreal's large English market.The high fragmentation and duplication of radio, TV, magazines and weekly newspapers makes The Gazette, with its large, loyal readership, the most desirable choice for advertisers. Throughout the week, 75% of Montreal's English population reads The Gazette. The Gazette offers award-winning editorial contentwith a variety of sections and features that readers have come to depend on, and look forward to, every day of the week.The Gazette's weekly TVtimes, Special Sections throughout the year, and weekly community editions in key suburban markets are of prime interest to both readers and advertisers. The Gazette also offers market research, creative services, targeted insert distribution and New Media applications, including this Web Site. http://www.qctonline.com/History.html A brief history of North America's oldest newspaper The Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph has enjoyed a very long and most distinguished history in Quebec City. This newspaper is a descendant of several newspapers published during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries in Quebec. The first, The Quebec Gazette, was founded on June 21, 1764. From that year to 1842, the newspaper published both French and English editions. It started as a weekly, but in May, 1832, it began appearing in English on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and in French on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Founded by William Brown, the Quebec Gazette had 150 subscribers in 1764. It encountered a number of problems during the first years of publication, and ceased printing during the siege of Quebec in November 1775. When William Brown died in 1789, the newspaper remained in his family, being taken over by two of his nephews, John and Samuel Neilson. John Neilson published the Quebec Gazette until February 1848, then was replaced for a year by Roland Macdonald. Robert Middleton succeeded Macdonald and remained with the paper until 1873. In 1873 the Quebec Gazette joined with the Morning Chronicle to become the Quebec Chronicle and Quebec Gazette. The Morning Chronicle, founded in 1847 by Robert Middleton and Charles St. Michel, also saw many changes, especially in its content. Upon Middleton<s death in 1873, J.J. Foote, who had become publisher of the paper in 1863, ended the competition between the Quebec Gazette and the Morning Chronicle by combining the two. Two years after the amalgamation, the Quebec Daily Telegraph was founded by James Carrel on November 9, 1875. Contrary to the Quebec Chronicle and the Quebec Gazette which was a Conservative newspaper, the Daily Telegraph defended popular opinion and published as a Liberal newspaper. The competition between these two newspapers was disastrous. On July 2, 1925, the two joined under the name of the Chronicle-Telegraph (it became the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph in 1934. The new paper was controlled by William Price and James Carrel (William Price had purchased the Morning Chronicle in 1922). The offices of the newspaper were located on Buade Street. In September 1959, the business moved to St-Malo Industrial Centre and a new proprietor, The Thomson Company, took control. In 1972 the newspaper, which had been a daily for a long time, became a weekly. The Thomson Company then sold the newspaper to publisher Herb Murphy. On December 16, 1979, a group composed of lawyers David Cannon, Jean Lemelin and Ross Rourke, along with broadcaster Bob Dawson, saved the paper from a certain demise. A few years later, David Cannon acquired sole ownership of the paper, and then, on January 1, 1993, it was bought by Karen Macdonald and Francois Vezina. With each change in ownership, the paper found itself in new offices: from its humble beginning on St. Louis Street to the grand office on the corner of Buade and du Tresor in the 1920s, and a big move to the St-Malo industrial park in 1959. The Chronicle-Telegraph was also published out of the Wax Museum and is now located in suburban Sainte-Foy. The Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph is still a weekly. It is published every Wednesday and has a circulation of 1,700. In 2001 it is celebrating its 238th anniversary. This photo montage clearly shows where the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph offices were located, at 27 Buade Street. Though the Chronicle-Telegraph sign is hidden beneath an awning on du Tresor Street, some say if you pass there, when the wind is right, you can still smell the ink! -----Original Message----- From: Joanna Waugh [mailto:j.waugh@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:59 AM To: CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] Quebec newspapers I'm confused as to what newspaper to check for Quebec City landings in June 1863 from Germany. I have seen the references in the last digest to the Montreal paper and the Quebec Mercury. I know The Quebec Gazette existed in June 1863 and can get someone to search it for me.But which paper is best for shipping news? Joanna Hamilton, Ontario ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1820 to 1850 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp03.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This originated from the list from the state of Maine for seachers who are looking for ancestors in New Brunswick. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nbstjohn/ WHERE DID THE "CHIGNECTO PROJECT" GO by Cleadie B. Barnett, C.G. (C) The Chignecto Project files were offered to the GenWeb sites, for NB, NS and Canada as a whole. Most were picked up by the Provincial or County Coordinators, but some were probably missed. I have not tried to track down the Nova Scotia items, except for a few that seemed to have direct impact on New Brunswick. A check of the Canada and Nova Scotia sites will probably turn up the rest of the files. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cannb/ Military Service Black Watch (42nd Regiment) Veterans to New Brunswick (1783) The Chignecto Project files were offered to the GenWeb sites, for NB, NS and Canada as a whole. Most were picked up by the Provincial or County Coordinators, but some were probably missed. I have not tried to track down the Nova Scotia items, except for a few that seemed to have direct impact on New Brunswick. A check of the Canada and Nova Scotia sites will probably turn up the rest of the files Ship List associated with The Ship Grampian - from Liverpool to Halifax - 1909. This list was on The Chignecto Project site, and indexed to New Brunswick, although nothing in it suggests that it did land in Saint John. Passenger List per steamship Tyrian from Liverpool - May 1874 Catalogue of Ships That Brought Passengers to Saint John - 1842 (numbers / no names) Each file has 2 or three jpgs. Passenger List, Ship Favourite - 1816 | (Re-prints from We Lived) John Black & Company, Passengers - 1803 | (Re-prints from We Lived) Settlers Brought In Through The Port of Saint John - 1816 | (Re-prints from We Lived) Check the Nova Scotia GenWeb or Immigration/Passenger Lists sites for many shipping records. National Archives of Canada - NB GenLinks - http://nbgenlinks.new-brunswick.net/ for good measure Rhonda Houston

Thank you for your wealth of information Rhonda, you been of great help! Regards, Tim Notting On Tuesday, May 7, 2002, at 12:16 AM, Rhonda Houston wrote: > > Tim, > According to http://www.welcometopoole.co.uk/links.htm the borough of > Poole is in West Dorset County, England. > > This, along with the Poole Borough site, is a must-see for all > interested in > Poole and all it can offer. > 'West Dorset', an area of outstanding natural beauty, is situated in > England's West Country. West Dorset offers heritage coastline, hidden > valleys and picturesque villages with pretty thatched cottages. A great > place to unwind in any season. > The Dorset Page Most of Dorset has been officially designated an area of > outstanding natural beauty. But there is more to Dorset than the beauty > of > the countryside. Dorset is also the centre of both the Anglo Saxon > kingdom > and Thomas Hardy's fictional Wessex. > > Within the local Record Offices of England and Wales, these record > offices > and archives locally have most of what the PRO has, with the exception > that > the record offices and archives have bapistisms and church records that > the > PRO doesn't have. So, since your Joseph Notting (b. 1773, Poole, > England) > resided in West Dorset, the record office that should have records on > him, > would be this one: > > Dorset Record office > Bridgport Road > Dorchester DT1 1RP > Tel 01305-250550 > Fax 01305-257184 > > Since it has been such a long time since 1773, it won't hurt to see if > you > can get a map of Dorset County dated 1770 and compare the area Dorset > is in > today, just to see if any of the boundaries have changed...I believe you > will find some very interesting things within this Record Office...If > you > can tell me something more like why he left for Canada, I might be able > to > find where he might be noted within the PRO or some other archive in > England. > > You might even send an inquiry to this address and ask about your Joseph > Notting: > > Colchester Historical Society Museum > 29 Young Street > Truro, N.S. > B2N 5C5 > (phone 895-6284) > > I will tell you for more extensive information and resources which will > blow > you away that there are so many and written down at that, would to > invest in > the small book by Terrence M. Punch, C.G. (C) with George F. Sanborn > Jr., F. > A. S. G. > > This paperback book with only 165 pages, that Terry Punch wrote & > edited, is > called "Genealogist's Handbook for Atlantic Canada Research" and further > authored the chapter about Nova Scotia. > > All you need is the ISBN# (International Standard Book Number) to give > to > your librarian and you will have performed all her/his work for her/him > to > obtain the book (found on the title page) via interlibrary loan, or > this is > also, the way to be sure to get this book via the bookstore. > > ISBN# 0880820675 > > The other provinces were written by: > New Brunswick: Daniel R. Johnson, CG(C) > Newfoundland and Labrador: Elsa H. Flack, CG(C) > Prince Edward island: Orlo L. Jones, CG(C) > Acadians, Stephen A. White, CG(C) > > This book lists province, county, civil parishes, and for Nova Scotia it > uses rural and urban municipalities. There are listings and dates for > each > listing of: > > historical overview > major repositories > vital records > census records > land records > probate records > church registers > cemetery reocres > immigration records > newspapers > societies and libraries > periodicals > bibliography > > Another terrific book which will give you some insights as to where the > same > GENERAL information that you may need is within North America that the > PRO > has within its walls, is this book: > > "Genealogical Research in England's Public Record Office: A Guide for > North > Americans" by Judith Prowse Reid and Simon Fowler (Fowler has written > many > books/references on how to use the PRO) > > The ISBN # is 0806316322 It is a hardback book with 161 pages (which > includes the index, bibilography) and is jam-packed with information > about > where to look in North American for the same reference information that > the > PRO holds (NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC INFORMATION, BUT GENERAL > INFORMATION) > AND gives a listing of PRO Research Information Finding Aids (numbered > leaflets that can be requested of the PRO when you can't find what you > will > be looking for within the local county offices where Joseph Notting > lived in > England in 1773. > > Hope I've been of some assistance. Rhonda Houston

At 01:19 PM 2002-05-10 -0400, Patricia Hart wrote: >Many thanks to all of you who responded so far, how would I go about getting >information from the Montreal Gazzete and the Quebec Mercury for the first >two weeks of June 1834? Patricia, Marj has access at the University of Waterloo library, however she hardly has the *time* to even work on our zillion ongoing projects on TheShipsList, but many University libraries probably have the films, as would Provincial libraries, and of course the National Library in Ottawa. Some public libraries might also have at least some of the Quebec publications on microfilm. Not sure whether the LDS carry Canadian newspapers in their catalogue. Contemporary newspapers are a wonderful source of information, however usually the only passengers named are cabin passengers. Occasionally there will be a "letter of appreciation" to the Captain of a vessel signed by several passengers. The news items are wonderful to read too. We have quite a few years and part years already, with many more years on the back burner http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/vessels.html Sue --