A website which deals with Foundries and child labour 1842 Newcastle on the surname Tyne but can be modified to any surname for which you might be looking. Rhonda Houston A new web page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tynesidehistory/foundries.html is extracts from a 1842 government report on children working in foundries the extracts are from Newcastle foundries of Walker, Tyne and Crowthers. There are a lot of surnames on the page as children were questioned as to their working conditions. The main index page now has a search engine that allows you to search the site for locations, surnames and subjects. There has also been set up a site ring for any Tyneside Family or Local History websites. The webmaster's name is Dave Kane (Tyneside UK) http://Tyneside.History.andmuchmore.com North east England Victorian family and local history.

I notice that you were interested in the "Highlander" from SCT to Canada. I show 14 trips of the Highlander of Aberdeen, mostly from Aberdeen to NB and Que and one stoping at PEI [ 1820 ]. These 14 trips cover a period 1817 to 1830. This info from Index To Emigrant And POW Ships -1612 to 1887. Published Feb 2002. John Stinson

Christi, I'm reposting a tip I provided a month ago for Charles - the following series is a massive index for individuals in all kinds of passenger AND immigration lists - you'll find references to all kinds of documents (with source descriptions), in both the US and Canada, even for inland places like Iowa! C Coogan wrote: > > Fellow Researchers, > > I have a reference from a series of books called > "Passenger and Immigration Lists". > The specific reference is: > > Canada - Quebec > ***Supplement, 2001 (Part 2)*** > Coogan, Robert, North America, 1847 > > Would anyone have access to this series and more > information on the source and its details? > > Thank you > > Charles C. > The Library of Michigan has this series - here's the link to the catalog listing (this is a multiple line URL, please cut & paste the entire thing into your browser's URL box then press Enter): http://opac.libofmich.lib.mi.us/search/wpassenger+immigration+lists/wpassenger+immigration+lists/37,77,77,B/frameset&F=wpassenger+immigration+lists&39,39, This series covers both the US and Canada. I believe that your reference above is missing what I'd call the "reference number" and the page number. The sources used in this series are many and varied - they include censuses, directories, atlases, etc. At the front of each volume, the source information for each "reference number" is given. The Library of Michigan's Catalog lists then as (Non-Circ), meaning they won't loan them out. Here is the Library's home page: http://www.libofmich.lib.mi.us/ Tim Totten Haslett, Michigan, USA ==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1535 to 1790 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Iris, On TheShipsList, we don't have too many 1830's ship arrivals (from contemporary newspapers) yet, but we do have 1834 and 1835 http://theshipslist.com/ships/vessels.html however, no ship named "Highland" anything shows in a search, for those years. 1830s is too early for registration of deaths on a "British" ship; registration began in 1854. This below, a quote from Harry Dodsworth. The Board of Trade records (PRO groups BT158, BT159, BT160) which cover births, deaths and a few marriages on British registered ships from 1854 to 1890 are available from the LDS on four films 1419469, 1419470, 1419471, 1419472. These are not well organised, or usefully indexed and an event may be recorded on any one of the four reels. However these are real registers (sometimes with gossippy comments) which make for interesting reading. Sue -- At 08:36 AM 2002-06-12 -0600, I Read wrote: >I am told that my GOUDY / GOWDY line came from Belfast, Ireland (possibly >via Glasgow) on a ship called "The Highlands (or Highlander) of Scotland" in >the early 1830's. I have not yet found a reference to that ship anywhere. >It is believed that it was not passenger ship. Has anyone come across a >reference to this ship? > >Also, one of the children died at sea when they were crossing. Does anyone >know if there was a requirement to register deaths at sea and where I might >find that? > >Thanks! > >Iris :-)

Jenny, There are some really good ships sites and since you know the name and the date, you're probably ahead of anyone else around here. Here are a couple of my favorite sites: http://www.daddezio.com/genealogy/ships/index.html http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/index.shtml http://istg.rootsweb.com/ The last one might be unavailable for a couple of days this week, since Rootsweb is taking their server off-line to do maintenance. Christi Malone Researching: DWYER (IRE>Ontario,CAN); HOULIHAN (IRE>Ontario,CAN) HYDE (IRE>Ontario,CAN); O'TOOLE (IRE>Ohio) PRENDEVILLE (Kerry>Ohio>Kansas); RYAN (Limerick>Ontario,CAN>Kansas) Keeping the Information Free

I am told that my GOUDY / GOWDY line came from Belfast, Ireland (possibly via Glasgow) on a ship called "The Highlands (or Highlander) of Scotland" in the early 1830's. I have not yet found a reference to that ship anywhere. It is believed that it was not passenger ship. Has anyone come across a reference to this ship? Also, one of the children died at sea when they were crossing. Does anyone know if there was a requirement to register deaths at sea and where I might find that? Thanks! Iris :-)

My husbands great-grandfather, Edward BEATTY, sailed from Jersey, C.I. on April 18, 1846 on the ship Ocean Queen under Capt. Boutilier. They were sailing to Gaspe, Quebec. I'd appreciate it very much if anyone has any information on the above, or how I might find this ship. TIA Jenny @ B.C.

I too am looking for info on Irish that "came through Canada" My Kirby's came this way. My great great grandfather died at sea, and his wife and children walked to Boston, MA. from Canada. I do not know the year. All I know is that my great grandfather and great grandmother had their first child in 1864 in Clinton, MA The story about the walk to Boston was passed down in the family. It would have happened sometime between 1845-1864. However since my great grandfather was born in 1841 and he was a child when he came the date would probably be in the late 1840s or early 1850s. I have not located any of my family on a census or any document before 1865 and that was the MA state census. My feeling is that it was in the early 1850s. My great great grandparents were Patrick Kirby and Bridget O'Malley Kirby from County Mayo, Ireland. Patrick died at sea. It was Bridget who made the walk to Boston, where, according to family lore she had to take up the world's oldest profession for a while to feed her kids. Apparently Bridget's younger brother came too. He supposingly took up watch on the stairs to make sure the men didn't get away without paying. Good Catholics that my Dad's family was, I can not imagine them making up the story, so I assume that it is true.

I was wondering is there is anyway to sift through the thousands of arrivals to Canada to know which ones continued on to the US. Is there some sort of index or directory of immigrants who just "passed through" Canada? I have had very little luck finding *any* ship with my ancestors aboard. By using the "Directory of Passenger Ships" at www.daddezio.com, I am working my way "alphabetically" through thousands of passenger ships which left Europe for US, Canada and Australia. I find this list easier to use because 1) I don't' know the port of departure; 2) the year of departure; and 3) port of entry. This directory sends the researcher to the olivetree site, as well as ISTG site, and others. I check every ship that left the UK (in case my Irish ancestors left from Liverpool) and went to North America. I am almost through the "P's" with no luck. Any insight will be greatly appreciated. Christi Malone Researching: DWYER (IRE>Ontario,CAN); HOULIHAN (IRE>Ontario,CAN) HYDE (IRE>Ontario,CAN); O'TOOLE (IRE>Ohio) PRENDEVILLE (Kerry>Ohio>Kansas); RYAN (Limerick>Ontario,CAN>Kansas) Keeping the Information Free

A Reminder; Redmond / Redman Family Reunion -- 16th and 17th/August/2002 -- Truro / Bible Hill, Nova Scotia, Canada It was August 13, 1818, when Captain James Hardy, in his 350 tons burthen, Brigantine Fame, set sail from the Port of Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland carrying passengers bound for the Americas. Among the passengers were two Redmond families from Ballymena, whom had just sold their flax farms and mill so they could make the voyage to fresh beginnings and the promise offered by the New World. These were the Redmond Cousins - John and Moses, with their wives and children. The Brigantine Fame did not reach its intended destination. On October 2nd, 1818, the sailing ship had run into trouble off the coast of Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia, with the families having to be helped ashore by local residents. The two Redmond families spent that winter in Halifax and eventually made their way to more permanent residences in the Musquodoboit Valley and in the River John area of Pictou County, Nova Scotia. It was from those two main locations, that John's and Moses' families fanned out to new beginnings in many other parts of Canada and the United States. Descendants of Moses Redmond & Rebecca Dunn (name, approx, year of birth and birthplace) Samuel Redmond, abt. 1808, Carrickfergus Francis Redman, 1810 - 1811, Carrickfergus John Alexander Redman, 1799, Carrickfergus Andrew Readmon/Redmond/Redman, 1800, Carrickfergus James Redmond, 1809 - 1811, Carrickfergus Robert Redman, 1813, Carrickfergus William Redmond 1817, Carrickfergus Jean Redmond, 1814, Carrickfergus Mary Margaret Redman, 1796, Carrickfergus Roseanna Redman, 1810 - 1815, Carrickfergus Moses Redmond, 1810 - 1811, Carrickfergus? David Redmond, 1798, Carrickfergus Elizabeth Redmond, 1802 - 1805, Carrickfergus Descendents of John Redmond & Roseanne Dunn Moses Redmond, 1811, Carrickfergus Rebecca Redmond, ?, Upper Musquodoboit, Nova Scotia Jennie Redmond, ?? Janet Redmond, 1811-1906, Carrickfergus Our Redmond/Redman Family Re-Unites It is with this history in mind, that we wish to commemorate and celebrate John and Moses' departure from the Old World by having a Redmond Family Reunion on 16th and 17th/August/2002 . On those dates, we hope to see Redmonds gather from far and wide in Truro / Bible Hill, Colchester County, Nova Scotia, in celebration of our mutual heritage, stemming from these rather adventurous beginnings. The reunion will be a day and a half of sharing family and historical information, looking through old photographs and family heirlooms, learning more about the rich history of our pioneer family. We welcome you to take part in the planned activities, such as: - Trading Genealogical Information with your Redmond/Redman Cousins - an opportunity to place your family on our Redmond Reunion Family Tree - Redmond Family trivial pursuit and family bingo - Games and activities for kids - `Who's that Ancestor' photo contest - Music, good food, and a chance to greet & meet close and distant relations If you are interested, please respond to any one of the following organizers with your interest. Wayne Redmond 34 Baird Road, R.R. #2 Malagash, Nova Scotia B0K 1E0 (902) 257-2956 (tel) wredmond@auracom.com Caroline (Redmond) Smith 43 Brown Ave. Lower Sackville, NS B4C 2Z9 (902) 864-0253 (tel) (902) 864-5921 (fax) lsmith@accesswave.ca Andrea (Redmond) Caven 626 Salmon River Rd. Truro, NS B2N 5B2 902-895-0422(tel.) (902) 896-0207 (fax) caven.cpdis@corda.ca Mary Redmond Maxner bhc@tru.eastlink.ca 902-895-7896(tel.) Look forward to seeing yous and enjoying some good old Redmond Down Home Hospitality. (Might even be an Irish jig or two.) (Forwarding the note for the Organizers.) Regards, R.W. Rick Redmond Chester, UK (formerly of Edmonton, Alberta) rredmond@btopenworld.com Moses Redmond (+ Rebecca Dunn)--> My Samuel Redmond (+ Mary Heighton) --> Redmond Frederick Redmond (+ Joanna Woodworth) --> Ancestors Frederick Redmond (+ Hannah Winters) --> Whitney Redmond (+ Effie Marion White) --> Richard Redmond (+ Beverly Bell (Tankard)) --> Rick Redmond (=me)!!

I am looking for Adam Hutchison b abt 1818 and wife Mary b abt 1820 and children, sailing from Scotland to Canada. The family was in Glasgow in the 1841 census. They had at least 3 children born in Scotland. The fourth child, b 1843 may have been born in Scotland or Canada, or in between. The children were John, Elizabeth, Jane and Mary. The fifth child, Adam, was born in Canada August 16,1845. By 1850 they were in Connecticut in the US. Are there any records of that time that could help me find at what port they might have arrived or where they may have settled? Might there be a birth record for Adam? I would appreciate any help or suggestions that anyone can give me. Nancy, New Mexico, USA

Jean, Before the rail lines went through (1850s but 1870s before Halifax was connected) the only way to get from Nova Scotia or New Brunswick to Quebec or Upper Canada was by ship. Thus, rarely did any emigrant use those ports to get to Lower or Upper Canada. Ships arrived at Quebec from late April (if it was a good year) to early November. Most vessels only made one crossing a year. Once the Erie Canal was built in the 1820s some emigrants went into New York and then up the canal to the lakes, crossed over by boat to Kingston, York (Toronto), etc. Ships stopped at Quebec or Montreal and then the emigrant moved up to Upper Canada by boat -- travel was a little easier as the canals opened in the late 1820s early 1830s. Some of the boats were large barges (no cover when it rained) so the trip was no great joy. You can read more about this from the emigrant handbook I have on my site For 1832 Quebec arrivals: http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/emigrants1832.html For 1834 New York arrivals: http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/emigrants1834.html Regards.. Marjorie Kohli Waterloo, ON Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/ At 02:17 PM 04/06/2002 -0500, J Simon wrote: >One thing I found interesting to read re ships from Britain to Canada. It >put forth the supposition, and I am calling it a supposition, that if it >were winter, the ships only went from Britain to the maritime provinces such >as Nova Scotia. If it were summer time, the ships went on to Upper Canada, >or the Toronto area. > >I am afraid my ancestor (Donald McGregor) whom I am most anxious to trace >must have come in 1832 from Loch Rannoch, Perthshire, Scotland to Nova >Scotia in winter, in the steerage, with no record, at least newspaper-wise, >of the name of his ship, though there had to be a list at one time back in >Scotland, which the captain of his ship had to keep. My guess is that his >ship may have landed in Pictou, Pictou County, Nova Scotia, and it may also >have stopped in Prince Edward Island, perhaps at Charlottetown PEI. If your >ancestor was English, most likely your ancestor came to a port in Quebec >where English settlers were heavily settled. Perhaps that narrows it down a >bit for you. Pictou NS was heavily populated with Scots. > >Jean MacGregor Simon >Huntsville, Alabama USA > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <jbatesangel01@msn.com> >To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:21 AM >Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] ship lists > > > > Hello, list > > I am fairly new to my Canadian ancestor search and have been helped >vicariously by reading other list member's posts. My "ship" question is >2-fold: has anyone found an early-1830 ship list from ENG to Quebec? and >2nd question: is there a list of "most popular ports" to leave ENG and come >to CAN around 1830? Thanks, much, > > > > Your neighbor to the south, > > > > Julie Bates - St. Paul, MN > > > > ______________________________ > > >==== CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865 Mailing List ==== >Search ships passenger lists to Canada from 1850 to 1865 at >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp04.shtml > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Marjorie Kohli Waterloo, ON Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/

One thing I found interesting to read re ships from Britain to Canada. It put forth the supposition, and I am calling it a supposition, that if it were winter, the ships only went from Britain to the maritime provinces such as Nova Scotia. If it were summer time, the ships went on to Upper Canada, or the Toronto area. I am afraid my ancestor (Donald McGregor) whom I am most anxious to trace must have come in 1832 from Loch Rannoch, Perthshire, Scotland to Nova Scotia in winter, in the steerage, with no record, at least newspaper-wise, of the name of his ship, though there had to be a list at one time back in Scotland, which the captain of his ship had to keep. My guess is that his ship may have landed in Pictou, Pictou County, Nova Scotia, and it may also have stopped in Prince Edward Island, perhaps at Charlottetown PEI. If your ancestor was English, most likely your ancestor came to a port in Quebec where English settlers were heavily settled. Perhaps that narrows it down a bit for you. Pictou NS was heavily populated with Scots. Jean MacGregor Simon Huntsville, Alabama USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <jbatesangel01@msn.com> To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] ship lists > Hello, list > I am fairly new to my Canadian ancestor search and have been helped vicariously by reading other list member's posts. My "ship" question is 2-fold: has anyone found an early-1830 ship list from ENG to Quebec? and 2nd question: is there a list of "most popular ports" to leave ENG and come to CAN around 1830? Thanks, much, > > Your neighbor to the south, > > Julie Bates - St. Paul, MN > > ______________________________

Please, I am looking for the name of the ship that the Robert Jefferson Cleminson family traveled on to come to Montreal, Canada from the UK between 1866 -68. Is any information available? Thank you, Ron Cleminson -- -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Ron/Salli Cleminson 7098 Lone Oak Blvd Naples, FL 34109-8876 Hm. Email: Cleminson@prodigy.net Hm. Voice: 941.593.8044 Hm. Fax: 941.593.8045 Salli Cell: 941.269.9030 ~~~~~~~~~

Hi Listers, My gr, grandfather was born either on the ship or the day the ship landed in St John NB in Aug or Sept 1844. I haven't been able to find a list with the family on it. We think the ship sailed from Sligo to St John, they may have lived in Co. Carlow prior to leaving Ireland. Can anyone help? Or steer me to a likely place to look? Thanks. John Foley born abt 1787, Mary Foley spouse born 1806, John Foley son, born 1833 or 1834, Anne Foley daughter, born 1833 or 1834, Catherine Foley daughter, born 1827, Hugh Foley, son, born 1844 (either on the ship or in St John the day the ship landed) Thank you Linda _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

**NEW!** SEARCH ENGINES FOR SHIPS PASSENGER LISTS TO NORTH AMERICA Finding ancestors has never been easier! Surnames are at your fingertips with my custom-built Search Engines. These Search Engines will search for ships passenger lists to USA & Canada. Search engines have been custom built for the following states: Maryland, Texas, Louisiana, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New England (includes Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island & Vermont) and Texas. More Search Engines will be added for other states as time permits. The total number of ships to USA you can search from my new search engines as of today is 4,129. New ships are being added daily so don't despair if you don't find an ancestor the first time. One of the little known online databases for USA ships is found at the NAC (National Archives of Canada) for immigration 1925- 1935. Immigration records, including some border crossings are searchable for the ports of Providence, Rhode Island; Boston, Massachusetts; and New York City, New York. The NAC database for these US cities has a total of 6,293 names and you can now search the database from the Olive Tree Genealogy pages. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml This same database at the NAC has thousands of Canadian entries for the years 1925-1935. I have now set up a search box for your convenience which will search the Canadian ports of Quebec City; Montreal, Quebec; Halifax Nova Scotia; Saint John, New Brunswick; North Sydney, Nova Scotia; Vancouver, British Columbia; & Victoria, British Columbia. For those seeking ships to Canada, I have one search engine which searches ships to all of Canada. New ships are being added as I find them, and as of today the total number you can search from the convenience of my site is 265. When searching, please remember that spelling wasn't always consistent, and transcribers make mistakes. Also, names can be abbreviated -- Wm. for William, and so on. What this means is that you should always search list by list if you don't find your ancestor using the search boxes. To start your USA search list by list, please go to http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_index.shtml To start your search of Canadian ships list by list please go to http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml Search Passenger Lists to USA on Search Engines at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml Search Passenger Lists to Canada on Search Engines at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml I also have a new USA GENEALOGY site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ I am adding new databases and links to databases daily - all categorized by state. This is another project in the works so please keep checking back frequently if you don't find what you need the first time. Lorine McGinnis Schulze -- * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ * My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net

Dear Listers My name is EDWARD FELSTEAD and I live in WEST LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND,UK. I am attempting to establish the ENGLISH ancestry of FELSTEAD's who migrated to TORONTO pre 1865. The details are below - 1837 Toronto Directories JOHN FELSTEAD -Carpenter GEORGE FELSTEAD - Gardener,Duke Street. Marriages at St JAMES Cathedral,Toronto 6th May 1847 GEORGE FELSTEAD(of the township of York) m ANNE KINGSTON 21st March 1859 WILLIAM FELSTEAD (son of JAMES and SARAH) m MARY PALMER I have been searching for many months to establish when these FELSTEAD arrived in CANADA and how they got there. I would be grateful for a look-up on ANY ships list from ENGLAND to CANADA pre 1865 or any information re the above FELSTEAD's which may help me establish their English roots. Thank you for reading this letter. Best Wishes Edward

At 08:21 AM 03/06/2002 -0500, jbatesangel01@msn.com wrote: >Hello, list >I am fairly new to my Canadian ancestor search and have been helped >vicariously by reading other list member's posts. My "ship" question is >2-fold: has anyone found an early-1830 ship list from ENG to Quebec? and >2nd question: is there a list of "most popular ports" to leave ENG and >come to CAN around 1830? Thanks, much, > >Your neighbor to the south, > >Julie Bates - St. Paul, MN Julie, In the 1830s ships sailed from many ports. Just to give you an example have a look at these 1842-44 ship departures from the UK. http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/ships/vessels1844.html Most vessels only made the voyage one a year but a very few would try for twice over. Regards.. Marjorie Kohli Waterloo, ON Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/

Hello, list I am fairly new to my Canadian ancestor search and have been helped vicariously by reading other list member's posts. My "ship" question is 2-fold: has anyone found an early-1830 ship list from ENG to Quebec? and 2nd question: is there a list of "most popular ports" to leave ENG and come to CAN around 1830? Thanks, much, Your neighbor to the south, Julie Bates - St. Paul, MN

Hi listers, I have begun the onerous task of transcribing the New Brunswick "Customs House" lists for 1832, 1833-1834 & 1837-1838 (also Favourite 1816 [sic] 1815). They represent well over 10,000 passengers an crew. It might take me a while, which is why the "sneak peek" at the progress so far, and an explanation of why you not see me in view too often. <grin> If anyone has information of a certain passenger(s), which might help me identify the correct (if there is a *correct*) spelling for some individuals, I would appreciate knowing, and can make a note which will possibly assist future researchers. I just completed Madawaska 1833 which will not be searchable with TheShipsList search engine http://www.theshipslist.com/ until tomorrow, but all others should show in a *search* be aware though, that there are many ways of spelling a name, so maybe scrolling through the lists or searching on a partial name is better course .. Search Tips http://www.theshipslist.com/Search/tips.htm Saint John, N.B. Customs House Passenger Lists 1815, 1832, 1833-1834 & 1837-1838 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/saintjohnindex.htm I don't think I've announced to this list some other *early* Canadian records I've recently transcribed Scotland to Canada 1815 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/edinburghindex.htm Peter Robinson Settlers from Cork to Canada 1823 & 1825 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/peterrobinsonindex.htm enjoy! .... hope you find someone! Sue --