My ancestor, Marianna D'iock left is on a Hamburg passenger list dated 15 April 1863 for the brig "Mathilde" that arrived in Canada on 7 June 1863. Is anyone else have passengers on this ship? Does anyone have any more information on this ship? Deb Koplen http://home.swbell.net/koplend/ koplend@swbell.net Grand Prairie, TX "Right Smak dab between Dallas & Fort Worth"

Hi Lisa, Marj has been madly typing in the 1857 stuff in ALL her spare time (joke) but instead of waiting for her to finish, I have put up what has been completed, up to June 10th 1857 information. No ship named HOPE mentioned yet. 1857 is listed here at the top, under *new* http://theshipslist.com/ Even with no HOPE mentioned yet, there is a LOT of fascinating stuff in this newspaper. The Telegraph, Photography, Discussion of whether Cunard or the Montreal Company (Allan Line) would prevail to Quebec, Through-Ticketing of Immigrants (contract ticketing, which involved ship and rail to destination), Ads, Rail Disasters, just to name a few. Cabin Passengers are listed, from/to Quebec and Portland and including those sailing eastbound to Liverpool. Tomorrow, names will be searchable using the search-box, as we are indexed every night. Sue -- At 09:14 AM 2002-08-09 -0700, Lisa Conrad wrote: >Sue, and List: > >I was very excited to learn that you may be posting newspaper accounts & >info for the year 1857, for Quebec and surrounds, resembling the excellent >info found at >< http://theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1856.htm > > > >I am trying to find, at the least, the dates of sailings of the HOPE for the >year 1857, inbound and outbound for Quebec. The HOPE traded between Scotland >and Quebec. In a little biographical sketch from "History of Milwaukee, >Wisconsin", published in 1881, there is a bit of information that states >that my gg-granddad [surname Budge] "commenced his career as a sailor in the >HOPE, which traded between Scotland and Quebec." > >He emigrated from So. Ronaldsay, Orkney, in the year 1857. Since this >"commencing of his career as a sailor" begain coincident with the >approximate year of his emigration to North America (he settled first in >Oswego, NY), it is highly probable that he emigrated AS a sailor, not as a >passenger (though this is guesswork) and maybe emigrated on the ship HOPE, >but continuing to work on that ship for a while, till he gained more skills. >He eventually became a ship's captain in the Coasting Trade, on the Great >Lakes. > >I know the chances are low that crew lists for inbound/outbound ships were >notated within the local Canadian newspapers, so my expectations are so far >that I will only find at least some way to know all the dates of the >sailings of that ship, HOPE, to Scotland, and back to Quebec, from its first >sailing that year (1857), to its last. > >Maybe I may be able to find out more on this when the URL for the year 1857 >regarding Quebec newspaper transcripts, is posted on TheShipsList site. >Does anyone else have any other suggestions? >I do know that HOPE is listed in Guillet's book "The Great Migration"-- but >I do not have the book, and do not know exactly what it information it may >have for me regarding this ship. If anyone on the list has this book, could >you look up what it has on the ship HOPE, for year 1857? > >Many thanks, in advance, >Lisa Conrad -- >< http://home.earthlink.net/~southronaldsay/ >

Sue- This is great news... I am so glad you have even partial data so far for year 1857, because I have been, of course, looking into other possibilities, too, for the ship my Orcadian ancestor may have emigrated on. (This is not a new search for me, only one of those brick walls that I've been hitting at for a few years.) Thank you, Sue and Marj for everything you work so hard to do! I have been reading through what is up so far on your site for 1857, and it re-emphasizes some info for which I already have notes. One of my bigger leads, of *several* possiblities for emigrant ships (before I came across the Milwaukee blurb on the ship HOPE, and hence got distracted), has been the Aberdeen steamer, the CITY OF QUEBEC. This is because there is specific mention of about 100 Orkney emigrants being on board. And not only in your Quebec newspapers. I have actually gone to Orkney (again, So. Ronaldsay is where my gg-granddad hails from), and searched through microfilms at the Orkney Library of the newspaper, The Orcadian, for potential emigrant ships that sailed "to America" from Orkney/or Scotland, or had connections with Orkney, in the year 1857. The CITY OF QUEBEC is one of those ships mentioned in the newspaper, The Orcadian. In fact, it has quite an interesting tidbit... ~~from: The Orcadian, Mon. May 4th, 1857; Pg.4,Col.4--"The CITY OF QUEBEC - passed through the Pentland Firth upon April 19; the CITY OF QUEBEC, Tulloch, of & from Aberdeen, for Quebec, with emigrants, all well. This was ascertained by some Orkney emigrants that were on board writing some letters to their friends attaching same to a piece of wood, & throwing them overboard. They drifted ashore upon the island of Swanna [sic] (Pentland Firth) same evening. Some of the letters were quite dry..." In case some of you do not know Orkney, So. Ronaldsay is the southernmost Orkney island, separated from Caithness by the Pentland Firth; and the island of Swona is nearby. This little story was quite uncanny---but it may or may not be a clue to the ship my ancestor emigrated on. At any rate, Sue, your recent update for 1857 also lists this steamer, naturally....(for those interested, do a Search-Find for 'City of Quebec' on the link http://theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1857.htm), again mentioning the Orkney emigrants! But it also, down the page, gives me a date when it supposedly arrived in Quebec's harbor, with the Orcadians, I assume! "The following vessels had arrived:- [Quebec] On the26th April, the Queen of the Lakes and the Montreal, both from Liverpool, and the St. Lawrence from the Clyde; on the 1st May, the Kjolner from Norway, the Anglesea and Caledonia from Liverpool, and the City of Quebec from Glasgow;..." Perhaps my ancestor came in on a steamer, to Quebec, liked the sailing, and decided to start work on a ship of some sort out of Quebec, and we may find the HOPE (probably a schooner) popping up in our line of sight post-May 1st, sailing back and forth to a port in Scotland. Please let me know when you and Marj are done transcribing 1857! And if anyone knows of any passengers lists for Rokney emigrants for the steamer CITY OF QUEBEC arriving in Quebec on May 1st, 1857, please email me. What is interesting, also, is that one of the schooners my ancestor sailed on at least by the year 1860 (as a mate), on the Great Lakes, is found laid up for the winter, in the Milwaukee port, in 1857. The other thing that that little blurb in the "History of Milwaukee, Wisconsin" book mentioned about my gg-granddad, was that it (the book) claimed he came to Milwaukee in 1857 (although other family data indicates he came to *Oswego* in 1857, where he eventually Naturalized as a US citizen, got married, and et cetera). Sorry for rambling on. I guess I do so in the hopes that someone out there may have some more tidbits of potential information for me. I am still fitting the puzzle pieces together! Thanks for "listening," Everyone! Lisa Conrad -- < http://home.earthlink.net/~southronaldsay/ >

Hi Lisa Try this URL for a good site for Great Lakes info and history. Lots of links to ships, crews, etc. The link is the Great Lakes Historical Society http://www.inlandseas.org/default.html Cathie --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs

I have been told my ancestors the O'Henleys/O'Hanleys from South Uist in the Hebrides arrived in Canada aboard the ship "Admiral" in 1851. I have not been able to find proof of this and wondered if someone knew where this information might be found, and if a passenger list might be available? Also are there passenger lists available for Quebec arrivals from the Quebec Archives in the time period of 1848-1855? Andy McAuliffe, Kitchener.

Hello: Our CRAWFORD family book says: Married at Auchreoick, Cowell, Caira, Argyllshire in 1835. They came to Canada between 1851 and 1854 on the ship CONDRED. The captain's name was Barkley. It also took six weeks to cross the ocean during which there was a bad storm. Looking for the ship CONDRED. Any help about this ship very welcome. Eileen

Sue, and List: I was very excited to learn that you may be posting newspaper accounts & info for the year 1857, for Quebec and surrounds, resembling the excellent info found at < http://theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1856.htm > I am trying to find, at the least, the dates of sailings of the HOPE for the year 1857, inbound and outbound for Quebec. The HOPE traded between Scotland and Quebec. In a little biographical sketch from "History of Milwaukee, Wisconsin", published in 1881, there is a bit of information that states that my gg-granddad [surname Budge] "commenced his career as a sailor in the HOPE, which traded between Scotland and Quebec." He emigrated from So. Ronaldsay, Orkney, in the year 1857. Since this "commencing of his career as a sailor" begain coincident with the approximate year of his emigration to North America (he settled first in Oswego, NY), it is highly probable that he emigrated AS a sailor, not as a passenger (though this is guesswork) and maybe emigrated on the ship HOPE, but continuing to work on that ship for a while, till he gained more skills. He eventually became a ship's captain in the Coasting Trade, on the Great Lakes. I know the chances are low that crew lists for inbound/outbound ships were notated within the local Canadian newspapers, so my expectations are so far that I will only find at least some way to know all the dates of the sailings of that ship, HOPE, to Scotland, and back to Quebec, from its first sailing that year (1857), to its last. Maybe I may be able to find out more on this when the URL for the year 1857 regarding Quebec newspaper transcripts, is posted on TheShipsList site. Does anyone else have any other suggestions? I do know that HOPE is listed in Guillet's book "The Great Migration"-- but I do not have the book, and do not know exactly what it information it may have for me regarding this ship. If anyone on the list has this book, could you look up what it has on the ship HOPE, for year 1857? Many thanks, in advance, Lisa Conrad -- < http://home.earthlink.net/~southronaldsay/ >

If this is a repeat, please excuse. I keep getting a message that I have mail to send. I thought I had already sent it. I apologize for any inconvenience. Can someone tell me how to find a passenger list for the Ship Crown which sailed from England to Quebec? I received information from the Quebec National Archives that Susan WHITEHOUSE (my g-grandmother) was a passenger on the Crown and died 29 July 1854 of cholera and was buried the same day at Grosse Isle, I am trying to find if her husband, Thomas and her son, Henry were on that same ship. I appreciate any help. Betty Gregory

Can someone tell me how to find a passenger list for the Ship Crown which sailed from England to Quebec? I received information from the Quebec National Archives that Susan WHITEHOUSE (my g-grandmother) was a passenger on the Crown and died 29 July 1854 of cholera and was buried the same day at Grosse Isle, I am trying to find if her husband, Thomas and her son, Henry were on that same ship. I appreciate any help. Betty Gregory

Sue, to start with, no ships would have left Ontario. The closest port(s) would be Montreal .. and Quebec. Second, Canada did not archive passenger lists until 1865, for the port of Quebec, however, neither Canada, nor the US, maintained "outbound" (eastbound) passenger lists. You can learn a lot about shipping in and out of Quebec though, from the contemporary newspapers, and sometimes they would indicate passenger names, but usually just cabin class .. a bit like a society column. On http://theshipslist.com/ website, we have some newspaper accounts (only inbound for 1862) but an example for 1856 shows information about "outbound" ships and their cabin passengers. http://theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/Canada1856.htm We will be adding to this and 1857 is in the works. Sue -- At 01:11 PM 2002-08-03 -0700, SJarvis wrote: >I am hoping that someone may have some information on ANY ships that would >have left Ontario, Canada around the middle to end of October, of 1862. > >Is anyone doing manifest transcriptions of these ships, or only the ones >headed into the States and Canada? > >Thanks for any help. > >Sue

Would any one have access to the passenger list for the above ship or where could I look for it ? I am looking for John Thomas HART age 10 His father was ANTHONY HART , Mom was Francis . There may have been other family members with them . Can SKS help me out Carol (tweetybird) Home page: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> If site is down mirror site at: <http://www.geocities.com/tweetybirdgenealogy> Visit my home page for your lost url's & Home Children. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02

I am hoping that someone may have some information on ANY ships that would have left Ontario, Canada around the middle to end of October, of 1862. Is anyone doing manifest transcriptions of these ships, or only the ones headed into the States and Canada? Thanks for any help. Sue

This is a general appeal to anyone who sees the name STITHAM in the above period and in the related geographical area. Other spellings:STUDHOLM,STADHAM,STEDHAM. I'm searching for the origins of the original STITHAM whose sons Alexander and Andrew arrived in New Brunswick and settled in the Canterbury area around 1785. They may have come from Maine.They may have been Loyalists.They may have come from Scotland - or Ireland. I have fairly extensive records of their descendants.Glad to share..Now I need the immediate ANCESTORS.

Greetings, Dolora Rogerson from maybe Saskatchewan, Canada? I have been looking for names of ships from Scotland to Canada in 1832 for a long time, ever since I have gone online on my computer quite a few years ago. My great-grandfather, Baptist Deacon Donald MacGregor, came in 1832 from the Loch Rannoch area of Perthshire, Scotland to settle eventually in South River Lake, sometimes called Loch Katrine, Antigonish Co., Nova Scotia, Canada. If you or anyone secures a passenger list for the ship "Prompt" which left Greenock for Canada in 1832, would you please contact me? I am cc-ing many of you in hopes that you may be able to tell me where in Great Britain I might write to secure a hopefully still existent passenger list for the 1832 voyage of "The Prompt" from Greenock, Scotland to Canada, to which province I don't yet know! Better yet, Dolora, or any of you listers, can you tell me to what ports of call the 1832 voyage of the "Prompt" made in 1832 in Canada? Did it stop in the maritime provinces of Canada? Especially, did it stop in Prince Edward Island, in Nova Scotia, or even in New Brunswick? I ask because I don't know where my great-grandfather Donald MacGregor, son of Donald Ruadh MacGregor (the family name actually spelled McGregor at the time of immigration), disembarked as a British subject in Canada, but I presume that it most probably was in Pictou, Nova Scotia, or even possibly in Prince Edward Island. (Canada was not required to keep passenger lists until the 1860's!) I also suspect Prince Edward Island, because in 1838 or 1839 my ggf Donald traveled 6 or 7 years after his immigration to PEI to get married and bring back to South River Lake his brand new bride, Elizabeth or "Betsy" Stewart (daughter of John Stewart Sr. of Red Point, just south of East Point, PEI) whom Donald knew back in Loch Rannoch, Scotland. Perhaps Donald's immigrant ship (maybe the "Prompt"!) stopped in both PEI and in Nova Scotia, in 1832. If any of you know where the "Prompt" immigration ship docked in Canada in 1832, please write me at Rjmsimon@knology.net I shall be ecstatic to hear more info from any of you about the ship "Prompt"! Where would I write in Great Britain to obtain a passenger list for the 1832 voyage of the "Prompt" from Greenock to Canada, if the list still survives in Great Britain? I'd even like to hear info about any ship that came to the maritime provinces from Scotland in 1832. As for the ships I have found in the past that came to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia from Scotland in 1832, I doubt those ships contained my ggf Donald MacGregor as a passenger, though I could be "dead wrong"! Grin! There was a "highland clearance" in Loch Rannoch in 1831, so I would surmise that other desperate passengers from Loch Rannoch made the same voyage as Donald aboard the same ship to Canada, whichever ship that was, in 1832. Thank you so much, Lorine Schulze, and Delora Rogerson for sharing this info about the 1832 voyage of the "Prompt" from Greenock, Scotland to Canada. If the ship came only to Ontario, for instance, I could rule out probably that my ggf, Donald MacGregor, was a passenger on that ship. You see negative info can be helpful also. I do suspect that my ggf Donald arrived in Canada on a ship as a passenger "in the steerage". The Canadian newspapers would specify such and such a number of passengers in the steerage, but they did not list their names, too numerous probably. Hey, that would eventually have been a great tidbit for gossip, but oh well! One must have a sense of humor! Gratefully yours, and yours aye! Jean MacGregor Simon Huntsville, Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <otg@csolve.net> To: <CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: [CanShipsPre1865] (Fwd) Ship PROMPT from SCT to Canada > Forwarded by listowner to CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com > on behalf of "Dolora Rogerson" > <philcoe.derogerson@sk.sympatico.ca> > > Please respond to the list or Delora if you can help > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dolora Rogerson" <philcoe.derogerson@sk.sympatico.ca> > > > Hi Everyone, > > I have located the name of the ship that my ancestors were on, > traveling > from GREENOCK, SCOTLAND to CANADA. The name of the ship was > PROMPT That is all. I can not find any more info. I > believe that some of the family came (mostly) males, in 1832, > and the rest of the members came in 1833. Did they all take > the > same ship??? I have been unable to locate a passenger list. > George seems to be in the middle of a family of children, half > born in SCOTLAND, and the other half born in CANADA. Does > anyone > know how I can find George. He is not found in SCOTLAND nor in > CANADA. Did he die on the trip, being only a baby???? Last > known, GEORGE ROGERSON, b 1832 in Dumfries. Does anyone have a > suggestion as where I can begin to start looking for George???? > Thanks. dolora rogerson from Canada > > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml > > otg@csolve.net >

Hello Listers, On the list of seamen who died at sea There is a William Bartlett, ordinary seaman on the Jessie, from Guernsey (27) who would have died at sea in 1848. Would anyone have info on this seamen. I am looking for any relatives of a William Bartlett who died at sea and was from the Channel Islands. Could not find him in Jersey but I believe his children were in Jersey before 1854, year they came to Canada. Any help would be appreciated. Denise Boucher

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Forwarded by listowner to CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L@rootsweb.com on behalf of "Dolora Rogerson" <philcoe.derogerson@sk.sympatico.ca> Please respond to the list or Delora if you can help ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolora Rogerson" <philcoe.derogerson@sk.sympatico.ca> > Hi Everyone, I have located the name of the ship that my ancestors were on, traveling from GREENOCK, SCOTLAND to CANADA. The name of the ship was PROMPT That is all. I can not find any more info. I believe that some of the family came (mostly) males, in 1832, and the rest of the members came in 1833. Did they all take the same ship??? I have been unable to locate a passenger list. George seems to be in the middle of a family of children, half born in SCOTLAND, and the other half born in CANADA. Does anyone know how I can find George. He is not found in SCOTLAND nor in CANADA. Did he die on the trip, being only a baby???? Last known, GEORGE ROGERSON, b 1832 in Dumfries. Does anyone have a suggestion as where I can begin to start looking for George???? Thanks. dolora rogerson from Canada > ------- End of forwarded message ------- **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml otg@csolve.net

My gg grandmother, Mary Ann McCullough, and her brother William sailed from Belfast on April 1, 1837. Her ultimate destination was Charleston, SC, USA. The ship sprang a fatal leak but a lumber ship came along and rescued all aboard the sinking vessel. Family tradition says the rescuing ship landed in Deschaillons. From there my gg grandmother made her way eventually to New York and then to Charleston. Any suggestions on how I might learn more about the original ship, the rescuing ship, the arrival in Canada? Could that landing at Deschaillons be accurate? How would she have traveled on to New York City? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated! Carol

Hi Wayne, In Cambridge, VT there is a KNEELAND family that was friendly with my grandparents that have the genealogy. Perhaps your NEALON from Ireland was also spelled KNEELAND? Brian KNEELAND I believe lives in Morrisville at this time but his mother still lived in Cambridge the last I heard. Harriet in NH On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:57:41 -0600 Wayne Scott <gwsnew@shaw.ca> writes: > I have been unable to find information about the departure from > Ireland around 1820 of ancestors Michael Nealon and James Toner, who > settled separately in Hastings County, eastern Ontario at that time. > Michael Nealon came from County Limerick and James Toner from County > Tyrone. It has been suggested that one or another voyaged on the > Camperdown of Hull and landed at Quebec. > The family of John Scott came from Selkirkshire area to settle in > Wellington County, Ontario, in 1847. > > Any information or suggestions are welcome! > > Wayne Scott > Calgary

I am requesting the name of a ship and it's date of sailing from Ireland (possibly Londonderry) to Quebec in the year 1864. I have viewed the relevant ship list but without access to the ship lists, I cannot attempt to find my ancestors, Leighton departure or arrival in 1864. I have found a part of the family who sailed from Londonderry on the SS Peruvian in the year 1865. I would appreciate hearing from SKS with advice/direction in solving this query. Thank you, Bill