Hi Margaret I went to the website you said to go to but the only Census reports on the page it didn't include a census screen. It also didn't include the 1881 census. The only census reports I could select to search were the 1901, 1906, 1911, 1852CA, 1851NB census. I must have missed a step. Can you check back and let me know please? The name LeBert was changed from Hebert. I'll check youfolks.com for the Charles Hebert as you suggested. Kind Regards Patti ________________________________ From: "thomaslanefarm@att.net" <thomaslanefarm@att.net> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:24:11 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information To Patti Molenaar Go to automatedgenealogy.com/census. This is the version done by volunteers. I, too, had trouble finding the 1881 census. I finally brought it up in the family search screen. Go to the census screen. I put in just Charles, born Quebec in 1812 + or- 5 years.. With the older age and the Quebec birth it was then right there. Interesting note that Charles may have been listed somewhere as Charles Hebert. On yourfolks.com a Jane Sawyer married a Charles Hebert in 1843 in Brome. According to your dates, Jane had John when she was about 15. Her parents could have objected to the marriage as she was a minor, & they were married later on & perhaps only after Charles agreed to be married in her church. I suspect Charles came from a Roman Catholic family. A lot of ifs. If you have ancestry.ca with the 1843 date and the Brome, you may possibly be able to check this out with the Drouin records Margaret Benelli. <!--<BR>--> <div>&nbsp;</div> <blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid #1010ff 2px"> -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar &lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&gt;: -------------- <BR> <BR> <BR>> What a very interesting reply indeed! <BR>> Yes I do have the 1901 census report which gives Charles' birth date as 08 May 1808. However, his headstone (which I have a photo of) as well as other census reports and marriage records cite different birth dates so I purposely listed it <BR>> to be abt. 1812. <BR>> I don't seem to be able to get to the 1881 Census report on-line in order to review the notation you mentioned from the researcher and their contact details who stated that his wife was also a great great great granddaughter. I am so curious about that and hope I will be able to view it soon. Do you have the web <BR>> address to the page Charles appears on in the 1881 Census report by any chance? <BR>> In reference to the note saying Charles was a widower in 1881, I have found a Marriage record for "a" Charles LeBair and M. Ann Widden, Marriage Date: 28 Sep 1881, Registration Number: 59619, Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research Library. I don't know if this is the same Charles because I can't view the <BR>> original record online. I do have a copy of his marriage record to Marie <BR>> Bourdineau, however. They were married on 5 July 1897. This marriage record <BR>> gives Charles place of birth as Pointe Levis Quebec and his age as 86 years <BR>> along with his estimated year of birth as abt 1811. It also lists his Fathers <BR>> Name as Chas Lebert and his mother's name as Louise Niesnard, which fits. It <BR>> also give the parents names for Marie Bourdineau, her age, est. birth year and <BR>> the marriage place as Victoria, Victoria County. Family History Library <BR>> Microfilm: MS932_94. <BR>> <BR>> Family history is full of surprises isn't it! <BR>> <BR>> Kind Regards <BR>> Patti Molenaar <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ________________________________ <BR>> From: "thomaslanefarm@att.net" <thomaslanefarm@att.net> <BR>> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com <BR>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:22:48 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information <BR>> <BR>> To Patti Molenaar: re: Charles LaBare <BR>> <BR>> You do not mention finding Charles in the 1901 census. I found <BR>> him by merging alternate spellings with LaBare. (Go to automated genealogy). <BR>> LaBare is spelled as LaBair. This census gives an exact <BR>> birthdate. His line is flagged with a note as to the 1881 census (Charles was a <BR>> widower in 1881), and, furthermore, a researcher has stated that his wife is <BR>> also a great great great granddaughter of Charles. <BR>> You may contact this researcher directly. <BR>> Margaret Benelli <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <!--&lt;BR&gt;--> <BR>> &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; <BR>> &lt;blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid <BR>> #1010ff 2px"&gt; <BR>> -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar <BR>> &amp;lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&amp;gt;: -------------- <BR>> &lt;BR&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt; <BR>> I am hoping someone can direct me to some records I havent been able to find <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; for my Great Great Great Grandfather and my Great Great <BR>> Grandfather LeBare: <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> Charles LEBAREwas born about 1812 in Point Levis, Quebec(unconfirmed). He died <BR>> 15 May 1903, in the city of Myrtle, Whitby Township, Missisquoi County, (Durham <BR>> Region) Ontario where he is buried in Hubbell's Cemetery (I have a photo of his <BR>> gravestone and a copy of his death record). According to a number of records I <BR>> have been able to obtain, he seems to have resided his entire adult life in <BR>> Whitby, MissisquoiCounty, (Durham Region) Ontario. He married Jane SAWYER (date <BR>> and place unknown) Jane SAWYER was born about 1819 (date and place unknown). She <BR>> died 28 Sep 1880, in the city of Myrtle, WhitbyTownship, Ontariowhere she is <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; buried in Hubbell's Cemetery (I have a photo of her gravestone). <BR>> <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; The Children of Charles LEBARE and Jane SAWYER were: <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; i. George Adolphus LEBARE, born 9 Dec 1860, in Whitby Twp, <BR>> Ontario, died 19 <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Feb 1930, in BillingsTownshipManitoulin Isl., Ontario. <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ii. Margaret LEBARE, born 2 Sep 1840, in Myrtle, Ontario. She <BR>> married Samuel <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; MOORE. <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; iii. Benjamin LEBARE. He married Diana ROSS. <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; iv. John LEBARE, (my Great Great Grandfather) was born 2 Sep <BR>> 1834, in <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Quebec(unconfirmed). He married Martha Moore (date and place <BR>> unknown, name of <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; parents unknown). He died 27 May 1913, in Georgina Twp, Ontario. <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; v. Charles Malcolm LEBAR. He married (1) Agnes Ruth TORETTE. He <BR>> married <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; (2) Catherine MURRAY. <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; vi. Edward James LEBAR. He married (1) Elizabeth DEMERAY. He <BR>> married (2) <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Bessie REID. <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Charles LeBare, his wife and several children appear on the 1891 <BR>> Census <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; (attached) but I cant seem to find him in the 1851 census. Can <BR>> anyone suggest <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; where I can find them? or can direct me to any early records in <BR>> Missisquoi that <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; record this family and provide the documentation I am missing? <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Kind Regards <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Patti Molenaar <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; The Netherlands <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ------------------------------- <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word <BR>> 'unsubscribe' without the <BR>> &lt;BR&gt;&gt; quotes in the subject and the body of the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; message <BR>> &lt;/blockquote&gt; <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------- <BR>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <BR>> CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the <BR>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------- <BR>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <BR>> CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the <BR>> quotes in the subject and the body of the <BR>> message </blockquote> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message