Hi, I tried to start a new thread on this site but being computer challenged I just couldn't do it.? I am trying to?find a member of this group that in November, 2007 was looking for information on a EZRA CARPENTER.? I might have some information for you if you would like to contact me at jmceagle@aol.com.? Please put in the subject line CARPENTER/JOY and I will see if I can help you any.? I have just myself found this information so you might also be interested in it. Thanks Joyce -----Original Message----- From: thomaslanefarm@att.net To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 1:24 pm Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information To Patti Molenaar Go to automatedgenealogy.com/census. This is the version done by volunteers. I, too, had trouble finding the 1881 census. I finally brought it up in the family search screen. Go to the census screen. I put in just Charles, born Quebec in 1812 + or- 5 years.. With the older age and the Quebec birth it was then right there. Interesting note that Charles may have been listed somewhere as Charles Hebert. On yourfolks.com a Jane Sawyer married a Charles Hebert in 1843 in Brome. According to your dates, Jane had John when she was about 15. Her parents could have objected to the marriage as she was a minor, & they were married later on & perhaps only after Charles agreed to be married in her church. I suspect Charles came from a Roman Catholic family. A lot of ifs. If you have ancestry.ca with the 1843 date and the Brome, you may possibly be able to check this out with the Drouin records Margaret Benelli. <!--<BR>--> <div> </div> <blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid #1010ff 2px"> -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar <pattimolenaar@yahoo.com>: -------------- <BR> <BR> <BR>> What a very interesting reply indeed! <BR>> Yes I do have the 1901 census report which gives Charles'?birth?date as 08 May 1808.? However, his headstone (which I have a photo of) as well as other census reports and marriage records cite different birth dates so I purposely listed it <BR>> to be abt. 1812.? <BR>> I don't seem to be able to?get to the 1881 Census report on-line?in order to review?the notation you mentioned from the researcher and their contact details who stated that his wife was also a great great great granddaughter. I am so curious about that and hope I?will be able to view it soon. Do you have the web <BR>> address to the page Charles appears on in the 1881 Census report by any chance? <BR>> In reference to the note??saying C harles was a widower in 1881,?I have found a Marriage record for "a" Charles LeBair?and? M. Ann Widden, Marriage Date: 28 Sep 1881, Registration Number: 59619, Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research Library. I don't know?if this is the same?Charles because I can't view the <BR>> original record online.? I do have a copy of his?marriage record to?Marie <BR>> Bourdineau, however. They were married?on? 5 July 1897. This marriage record <BR>> gives Charles place of birth as?Pointe Levis Quebec and his age as?86 years <BR>> along with his estimated year of birth as?abt 1811. It also?lists ?his Fathers <BR>> Name as?Chas Lebert and his mother's name as?Louise Niesnard, which fits.? It <BR>> also give?the parents names for Marie Bourdineau, her age, est. birth year and <BR>> the marriage place as Victoria, Victoria?County. Family History Library <BR>> Microfilm: MS932_94. <BR>> ? <BR>> Family history is full of surprises isn't it! <BR>> ? <BR>> Kind Regards <BR>> Patti Molenaar? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ________________________________ <BR>> From: "thomaslanefarm@att.net" <thomaslanefarm@att.net> <BR>> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com <BR>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:22:48 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information <BR>> <BR>> To Patti Molenaar: re: Charles LaBare <BR>> <BR>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? You do not mention finding Charles in the 1901 census.? I found <BR>> him by merging alternate spellings with LaBare.? (Go to automated genealogy). <BR>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? LaBare is spelled as LaBair.? This census gives an exact <BR>> birthdate.? His line is flagged with a note as to the 1881 census (Charles was a <BR>> widower in 1881), and, furthermore, a researcher has stated that his wife is <BR>> also a great great great granddaughter of Charles. <BR>> You may contact this researcher directly. <BR>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Margaret Benelli <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <!--<BR>--> <BR>> <div>&nbsp;</div> <B R>> <blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid <BR>> #1010ff 2px"> <BR>> -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar <BR>> &lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&gt;: -------------- <BR>> <BR> <BR>> <BR> <BR>> I am hoping someone can direct me to some records I havent been able to find <BR>> <BR>> for my Great Great Great Grandfather and my Great Great <BR>> Grandfather LeBare: <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> Charles LEBAREwas born about 1812 in Point Levis, Quebec(unconfirmed). He died <BR>> 15 May 1903, in the city of Myrtle, Whitby Township, Missisquoi County, (Durham <BR>> Region) Ontario where he is buried in Hubbell's Cemetery (I have a photo of his <BR>> gravestone and a copy of his death record). According to a number of records I <BR>> have been able to obtain, he seems to have resided his entire adult life in <BR>> Whitby, ?MissisquoiCounty, (Durham Region) Ontario. He married Jane SAWYER (date <BR>> and place unknown) Jane SAWYER was born about 1819 (date and place unknown). She <BR>> died 28 Sep 1880, in the city of Myrtle, WhitbyTownship, Ontariowhere she is <BR>> <BR>> buried in Hubbell's Cemetery (I have a photo of her gravestone). <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> The Children of Charles LEBARE and Jane SAWYER were: <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> i. George Adolphus LEBARE, born 9 Dec 1860, in Whitby Twp, <BR>> Ontario, died 19 <BR>> <BR>> Feb 1930, in BillingsTownshipManitoulin Isl., Ontario. <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> ii. Margaret LEBARE, born 2 Sep 1840, in Myrtle, Ontario. She <BR>> married Samuel <BR>> <BR>> MOORE. <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> iii. Benjamin LEBARE. He married Diana ROSS. <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> iv. John LEBARE, (my Great Great Grandfather) was born 2 Sep <BR>> 1834, in <BR>> <BR>> Quebec(unconfirmed). He married Martha Moore (date and place <BR>> unknown, n ame of <BR>> <BR>> parents unknown). He died 27 May 1913, in Georgina Twp, Ontario. <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> v. Charles Malcolm LEBAR. He married (1) Agnes Ruth TORETTE. He <BR>> married <BR>> <BR>> (2) Catherine MURRAY. <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> vi. Edward James LEBAR. He married (1) Elizabeth DEMERAY. He <BR>> married (2) <BR>> <BR>> Bessie REID. <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> Charles LeBare, his wife and several children appear on the 1891 <BR>> Census <BR>> <BR>> (attached) but I cant seem to find him in the 1851 census. Can <BR>> anyone suggest <BR>> <BR>> where I can find them? or can direct me to any?early records in <BR>> Missisquoi that <BR>> <BR>> record this family and provide the documentation I am missing? <BR>> <BR>> ? <BR>> <BR>> Kind Regards <BR>> <BR>> Patti Molenaar <BR>> <BR>> The Netherlands <BR>> <BR>>? <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------- <BR>> <BR>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <BR>> <BR>> CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word <BR>> 'unsubscribe' without the <BR>> <BR>> quotes in the subject and the body of the <BR>> message <BR>> </blockquote> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------- <BR>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <BR>> CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the <BR>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------- <BR>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <BR>> CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the <BR>> quotes in the subject and the body of the <BR>> message </blockquote> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'u nsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message