Hi Margaret   I've already been corresponding with Coolidge - no need to send his direct e-mail address.   I looked at the marriage record you are referring to at Yourfolks.com. It is between Charles Hebert Marie-Louise Menard who were married in 1814. Because I have 6 records including census reports and marriage records verifying that Charles LeBar Jr. was born sometime between 1808 and 1813 which is years earlier than Charles Herbert and Louise Menard were married, I’m not convinced Charles Hebert is the same person as Charles Lebar Sr.  It will be a good exercise for me to pursue it further via the Catholic Parrish records as you suggest.   I’ve been studying old and new maps of Missisquoi Maps and although I don’t if he is an ancestor, there is a B. LaBare (just above LaGranges Mill and plot 44 belonging to Geo. Krans on an old map of Stanbridge on the  Missisquoi Museum web site page link: http://www.museemissisquoi.ca/zmap/missmap5.htm  I sure am looking forward to all the maps of Missiquoi!   On the 1851 Census report, Charles and Louise LeBare (both age 59) are shown as residing in Province: Canada East (Quebec), District: Missisquoi County, District Number: 16, Sub-District: Dunham, Sub-District Number: 223, Page: 136, Line: 25, Roll: C_1127, Schedule: A  along with two of their children; Emily age 14 and Justice age 19. I’d love to get a hold of the 1851 census map and pinpoint exactly where they were living then. I love Google Earth and use it all the time to pinpoint locations I’m researching.   I am corresponding with descendents of Samuel Moore’s and am hoping that among us, we can work out how Martha was related to Samuel. I’ll check for a Peter LeBar as you suggest.   To everyone who is following - the quest to learn the names of Martha Moore’s parents continues!  I very much appreciate every tip and all the info anyone cares to share with me.   Kind Regards Patti Molenaar ________________________________ From: "thomaslanefarm@att.net" <thomaslanefarm@att.net> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:30:03 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information Hi Patty,                   I referred back to yourfolks.com  They also refer to the marriage of Charles Sr. as being to Louise Menard.  I think this is important.  They were married at St Mathius sur Richelieu in Rouville County.  This is a Catholic parish.  To get more on Catholic records, you might get a better answer from the Quebec general list.  There should also be Catholic baptisms.                   Re the Moores      An interesting site for you to look at to see the lay of the land is to do a google search for: digital- map- Ontario-McGill. That will find it for you.    Go to Ontario County & Whitby> people list..  Charles is not recorded as a land owner, but several Moores.  (Possibly Charles lived in the village ? )  I then went to the 1881 census.  Most of the Moores were English or Irish.  I had thought that Samuel Moore and Martha were likely siblings.  The only Moore that fits in 1881 is a Peter Moore  ( lists ethnic as German).  Margaret's husband Samuel Yeo Moore was born in Whitby in 1836 per roots web  His father, Samuel, was born about 1810, but where?.  That is about the end of the leads that I can offer.  Persue the given names of Samuel and Peter..                   I will send you that personal Coolidge E-mail address direct                                   Margaret.