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    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Land/deed records from 1790 -1840
    2. Depending where you are looking YES on file in Archives in Ottawa, some on micro film in certain library possessions There are some at the Nathional Archives Quebec at the Viger branch in Montreal,

    02/27/2009 01:49:52
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Land/deed records from 1790 -1840
    2. Are there records of land transactions extant from this period?

    02/27/2009 07:27:45
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] HOOPER & WAGGONER, plus CONKLIN, VALENTINE, LADUE, TEACHOUT, MOORE, FONDA, etc.
    2. Hi Folks, Here's some excerpts I had posted on a Hooper family forum, but there are Missisquoi families mentioned here too. (I'm a Francis Waggoner descendant.) Any feedback appreciated. Thanks, Linda Waggoner General Parsons, writing from Crompound in Westchester county, advises Governor Clinton that,  "Five persons are apprehended on their road to New York, who will be sent to Poughkeepsie to-morrow. By one of them, from Stillwater, we are informed that one, Stephen Hooper, is on the road to New York and that he has two letters, one from Governor Carleton (of Canada), the other from Sir John Johnson, concealed in the heels of his shoes. He is about five feet six inches high, about thirty years of age, a large black beard, blue coat turned up with the same, flat brass buttons and a small brimmed hat and leather breeches. One, James Conklin, is in the company with him, is something taller, thin visage, light countenance, basket buttons on his coat. The informant says, he believes these persons are now near Poughkeepsie at John Valentine's, who is a relative of his. This information I thought necessary to give you that proper measures may be taken to apprehend them. There are at this place about one hundred barrels of provisions. I am and & Sam. H. Parsons To Governor N. Clinton" [Life and Letters of Samuel Holden Parsons: Major-general in the Continental Army and Chief Judge of the Northwestern Territory 1737-1789, Page 148-149, by Charles S. Hall, 1905] "That on the second day of said meeting, being the 20th Instant they had bound the following Persons in Recognizance's for their good behavior doing their duty and appearing before any three of the Commissioners for Conspiracies when thereunto required during the Continuance of the present war with Great Britain-- Stephen Hooper of New Town Farmer in [pounds sign] 100 Simon Van Camp of the same place Farmer his bail in [pounds sign] 100 John Hooper of New Town Farmer in [pounds sign] 100 Francis Waggoner of the same place his bail in [pounds sign] 100 [also listed from New Town for 100 lbs. bail: Joseph Devall, Stephen Hooper, Joseph Conklin, Dirk Heemstraedt, Jr., James Conklin, Dirk Heemstraedt, John A. Conklin, William Bartin, Peter Van Campen, Hendrick Brevoort, Stephen Ladue, John Vincent, Nicholas Teachout, Amos Moore, William Williams, Jr. and William Williams [page 466] Met Albany 27th July 1781--Present John M. Beekman, Samuel Stringer, Isaac D. Fonda, Christina Hooper, formerly of Thurlough of Tryon County having been cited to appear before the Board and she appearing this day agreeable to the said Order and being Examined as to the Thurlough inhabitants saith as follows (to wit) (see examination on file)" [page 753] [Minutes of the Commissioners for Detecting and Defeating Conspiracies in the State of New York, Albany County Sessions, 1781-1781, googlebooks.com] "Estates confiscated" include Stephen Hooper, John Hooper, Jr. [New York in the Revolution as colony and state, ancestry.com] Francis Waggoner (whose property in Half Moon, near Newtown, was confiscated during the American Revolution) was the "bailsman" for John Hooper who was held as prisoner along with Stephen Hooper, the spy with the secrets in his shoe. A few of the Saratoga area Tory-loyalists from the Newtown "squirmish," including a Conklin, lived near Waggoner in the Missisquoi area of Vermont and Canada. Janette Hooper (who might have been Stephen's sister) was Waggoner's wife and of their 4 sons, one was named John and one Stephen. A Stephen Hooper enlisted at Ulster Co., New York, in 1762 during the French Indian War. The enlistment record shows he was born in New Jersey, 5'3", brown hair and eyes.  Name: Stephen HOOPER . . . Death: 1808 in Junius, Seneca Co, NY . . . Will: 24 MAR 1808 Probate: 20 JUN 1810 Seneca Co. Courthouse, Waterloo, NY Residence: BEF 1776 Settled at Malta, NY.["The UPDIKE GENEALOGY,"  http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi ?]

    02/26/2009 01:38:33
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Lalanne records
    2. What are the Leon Lalanne's records? Paula Zoccoli **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

    02/20/2009 11:10:37
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] For those with Irish Ancestors
    2. Kathleen Grubb Bailey
    3. I'm not affliliated with this, but thought someone might find it of interest. The Quebec Family History Society is offering a seminar, A Genealogical Day in Ireland, on Saturday, March 7, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., in the society’s library, 173 Cartier Avenue, Montreal (Pointe Claire). Led by Gary Schroder and W.B. Yeates, the seminar will examine the major Irish sources used in family history research in both Ireland and Northern Ireland. And, will also explore the exciting new Internet developments in the world of Irish genealogy. From Civil Registration to Probate Records to Land Records, come and discover how to find your Irish ancestors. Cost: members $30, non-members $40. For more information, contact the society at telephone (514) 695-1502 or (514) 482-3418, or by fax (514) 695-3508, or visit www.qfhs.ca/. __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca

    02/20/2009 05:43:34
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Ancestry.ca Announces Global Project To Preserve Deteriorating Historical Canadian Records
    2. Kathleen Grubb Bailey
    3. The following announcement was written by Ancestry.ca: (Toronto, ON – February 18, 2009) Ancestry.ca, Canada’s leading online family history website, today launched the Canadian arm of the World Archives Project, which will give individuals the opportunity to help preserve historical Canadian records from the comfort of their own homes. New software designed and available for free download on all Ancestry websites enables participants to take images of original records and create indexes containing key information such as name, age, date, gender and location. Ancestry websites will host those indexes, which will be free to access. The first Canadian collection that will be available for World Archives Project participants is Ontario, Canada Marriage Registers by Clergy 1896 – 1948. These important records include approximately 24,000 names captured in marriage registrations compiled by members of the clergy under the Registration Act of 1896. The World Archives Project is launching through Ancestry websites in the UK, US, Australia, Canada, Germany, Sweden, France and Italy to their six million site users and anyone with a general interest in preserving historical records. In the past decade, the Internet has resulted in an explosion of interest in family history, which has in turn highlighted the poor state of many historical records around the world, many of which are deteriorating faster than they can be saved. The World Archives Project aims both to raise awareness of this fact and also to inspire people to help preserve these precious records. Preserving historical records is both costly and time consuming. In recent years, governments, libraries, archives, the family history community and websites have worked hard to preserve historical records: Ancestry.ca aims to accelerate the rate at which Canadian records are being preserved by providing the community with the tools it needs to assist with this significant task. Anyone can participate, and in the process get a ‘sneak preview’ of collections not yet publicly available. Indexes transcribed through the World Archives Project will be free on Ancestry.ca and participants can spend as much or as little time as they want assisting. Karen Patterson, Marketing Director, Ancestry.ca comments: “Historical record preservation and access go hand-in-hand so it is important that institutions, businesses and individuals all play an active role to ensure that as many Canadian records are preserved for future generations as possible. “Due to their age and condition, many Canadian records are in urgent need of preservation and so we are encouraging people to log on, download the free software and start to do their bit to preserve our country’s history.” Please on this link to access the download page and for instructions on how to use the indexing tool http://community.ancestry.com/wap/download.aspx __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

    02/20/2009 05:40:55
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] 1891 Census of Canada free access at Library &Archives Canada
    2. RICHARD POLLOCK
    3. A word of caution when searching family names on this website: I found several of my POLLOCK ancestors listed under PALLOCK. It appears to me that the scanning of the originals is too perfect and misspelling will occur. The actual originals, if scanned and read according to what is seen, it will report what is seen. In my case, if I did not know better, I would have reported PALLOCK too. -----Original Message----- From: can-qc-missisquoi-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-qc-missisquoi-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen Grubb Bailey Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:12 AM To: Missisquoi Message Board; Roots Web ET Message Board Subject: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] 1891 Census of Canada free access at Library &Archives Canada Press release: Library and Archives Canada (LAC) is pleased to announce the launch of a new online database, Census of Canada, 1891. Through this online database researchers can access digitized images of original census returns featuring the name, age, country or province of birth, nationality, religion, and occupation of Canada's residents at the time of the 1891 Census. The database is available at: www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/index-e.html The 1891 Census marked the third regularly scheduled collection of national statistics. Information was collected for Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, British Columbia and the North-West Territories (which at the time covered much of modern-day Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, northern Ontario, northern Quebec, Labrador, Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut). The 1891 Census also marks the launch of a new feature that allows visitors to suggest a correction to a record. This will be launched on a wider scale in the next few months. Library and Archives Canada gratefully acknowledges the contribution of Ancestry.ca, without which this project would not have been possible. Additionally, the contributions of many LAC staff were instrumental in the success of this project, and their efforts are much appreciated. For more information, please contact us at webservices@lac-bac.gc.ca. About Library and Archives Canada Library and Archives Canada collects and preserves Canada's documentary heritage, and makes it accessible to all Canadians. This heritage includes publications, archival records, sound and audio-visual materials, photographs, artworks, and electronic documents such as websites. The Canadian Genealogy Centre (www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy <http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html ) includes all physical and online genealogical services of Library and Archives Canada. It offers genealogical content, services, advice, research tools and opportunities to work on joint projects, all in both official languages. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/06/2009 06:52:22
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] 1891 Census of Canada free access at Library & Archives Canada
    2. Kathleen Grubb Bailey
    3. Press release: Library and Archives Canada (LAC) is pleased to announce the launch of a new online database, Census of Canada, 1891. Through this online database researchers can access digitized images of original census returns featuring the name, age, country or province of birth, nationality, religion, and occupation of Canada's residents at the time of the 1891 Census. The database is available at: www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/index-e.html The 1891 Census marked the third regularly scheduled collection of national statistics. Information was collected for Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, British Columbia and the North-West Territories (which at the time covered much of modern-day Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, northern Ontario, northern Quebec, Labrador, Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut). The 1891 Census also marks the launch of a new feature that allows visitors to suggest a correction to a record. This will be launched on a wider scale in the next few months. Library and Archives Canada gratefully acknowledges the contribution of Ancestry.ca, without which this project would not have been possible. Additionally, the contributions of many LAC staff were instrumental in the success of this project, and their efforts are much appreciated. For more information, please contact us at webservices@lac-bac.gc.ca. About Library and Archives Canada Library and Archives Canada collects and preserves Canada's documentary heritage, and makes it accessible to all Canadians. This heritage includes publications, archival records, sound and audio-visual materials, photographs, artworks, and electronic documents such as websites. The Canadian Genealogy Centre (www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy <http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html ) includes all physical and online genealogical services of Library and Archives Canada. It offers genealogical content, services, advice, research tools and opportunities to work on joint projects, all in both official languages. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

    02/05/2009 09:11:44
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Who Do You Think You Are?
    2. Kathleen Grubb Bailey
    3. Some of you may have heard of or seen the excellent BBC show called Who Do You Think You Are? For those of you who didn't know, an American version is being produced and is set to air on NBC in April. Some of the stars to look into their past are Lisa Kudrow, Sarah Jessica Parker and Susan Sarandon. >From NBC: From producer Lisa Kudrow comes a new series that is unlike anything on U.S. television. Based on the popular BBC documentary series, Who Do You Think You Are? takes viewers on an inspiring and personal journey into the past of America's best-known celebrities, sharing their emotion and surprise as they uncover stories of heroism, tragedy, love and betrayal that lie at the heart of their family story. At the same time, the series celebrates the making of our great nation and the people who traveled here in search of freedom and opportunity. __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/

    02/03/2009 11:40:28
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Genealogist's Resource for Interpreting Causes of Death
    2. Kathleen Grubb Bailey
    3. This website is a collection of archaic medical terms and their old and modern definitions. The primary focus of this web site is to help decipher the Causes of Death found on Mortality Lists, Certificates of Death and Church Death Records from the 19th century and earlier. http://www.antiquusmorbus.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

    02/03/2009 05:52:56
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information
    2. Hi Patty, I referred back to yourfolks.com They also refer to the marriage of Charles Sr. as being to Louise Menard. I think this is important. They were married at St Mathius sur Richelieu in Rouville County. This is a Catholic parish. To get more on Catholic records, you might get a better answer from the Quebec general list. There should also be Catholic baptisms. Re the Moores An interesting site for you to look at to see the lay of the land is to do a google search for: digital- map- Ontario-McGill. That will find it for you. Go to Ontario County & Whitby> people list.. Charles is not recorded as a land owner, but several Moores. (Possibly Charles lived in the village ? ) I then went to the 1881 census. Most of the Moores were English or Irish. I had thought that Samuel Moore and Martha were likely siblings. The only Moore that fits in 1881 is a Peter Moore ( lists ethnic as German). Margaret's husband Samuel Yeo Moore was born in Whitby in 1836 per roots web His father, Samuel, was born about 1810, but where?. That is about the end of the leads that I can offer. Persue the given names of Samuel and Peter.. I will send you that personal Coolidge E-mail address direct Margaret. <!--&lt;BR&gt;--> &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid #1010ff 2px"&gt; -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar &amp;lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&amp;gt;: -------------- &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Hi Margaret &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   Many thanks. I'll try looking up the 1881 census from Ancestry.com. By the way &lt;BR&gt;&gt; the web address you copied didn't make it with your email (see below).  &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   I would love to be put into contact with cousins from the area -  that would be brilliant! If you or anyone reading this can help me to contact family members  from the Moore's and LeBar's and related families I'd be very grateful. My Ancestors from these families resided in Whitby, Dunham and then later in Monck, Scuggog, Coboconk, Scott and Georginaand Pefferlaw during the late 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. Some of them are reported to have been United Empire Loyalists. A few immigrated to the USAinto counties located in Michigan's Thumb area. I have only been able to find two rather reluctant contacts in the Ontarioarea who are related by marriage to descendants of my gr-gr grandfather &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Charles LeBar.  &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   Because I live in The Netherlands my research is limited to what I can obtain &lt;BR&gt;&gt; on-line and what other family researchers share with me. I keep an open mind &lt;BR&gt;&gt; about everything I read and always try to obtain records substantiating &lt;BR&gt;&gt; information whenever possible. Living in Europe, I've been able to visit the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; areas of Scotland, Englandand Francewhere some of my ancestors are believed to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; have come from. Some of my ancestors are very well recorded and came from Alsace &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Lorraine France which is located on the French and German border -  a lovely &lt;BR&gt;&gt; area where wine is now produced. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any &lt;BR&gt;&gt; European records for my ancestors yet because the vital link of their American &lt;BR&gt;&gt; and Canadian immigration records have been unobtainable to me. I'd love to be &lt;BR&gt;&gt; able to research records for ancestors I share with others. I travel throughout &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Europeand would be very willing to  do look ups. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; My information on John Sawyer's wife's name was Sarah Kimball versus Sarah &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Cambell as you wrote. I found her birthplace mentioned as St. Armand on the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Canada/Vermont border abt. 1775. The Kimball family is recorded in Americafrom &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 1634 to 1897. Their ancestors were possibly the Kemballs or Kemboldes of &lt;BR&gt;&gt; England. Regardless, its important I obtain some record on them at the time they &lt;BR&gt;&gt; were living. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; My information about Charle's LeBar Sr's. wife is that she was named Louise &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Nisnard rather than Menard  as you wrote. Menard in French is Ménard and in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; English is Maynard. I'm starting to doubt the name was Nisnard - it's a very &lt;BR&gt;&gt; unusual spelling although it could have  developed from the name Nisard, which &lt;BR&gt;&gt; is a famous surname recorded in almost every European country since the late &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Middle Ages but again having records to verify their names when they were living &lt;BR&gt;&gt; is essential. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; The LeBar surname has continued to &quot;develop&quot; in it's spellings, with numerous &lt;BR&gt;&gt; variants of the original even within the same family making my research very &lt;BR&gt;&gt; difficult. Speaking of LeBar's that was an iinteresting story you shared &lt;BR&gt;&gt; regarding the marriage of Jane Sawyer and Charles LeBar. You didn't provide a &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ref. to whoever was responsible for writing it though - would please share that &lt;BR&gt;&gt; with me? To my knowledge, no records have been found that confirm the date of &lt;BR&gt;&gt; their marriage as 2/7/1843- that is 7 months before John LeBar's supposed birth &lt;BR&gt;&gt; date. Perhaps it was an imagined hypothesis based on general knowledge of the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; situation about marriages at that time? I wonder if there are any validated &lt;BR&gt;&gt; stories of other marriages that were performed in that area at that time to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; support it? &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; I found names for all 13 of Charles and Jane LeBar's children and have compiled &lt;BR&gt;&gt; records on some of them validating births, marriages and deaths so I feel &lt;BR&gt;&gt; comfortable with my knowledge of that generation forward. It is the names of &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Martha Moore's parents (John LaBar's wife) that I am trying to discover. Anyone &lt;BR&gt;&gt; who is reading this who has information on what their names may have been - &lt;BR&gt;&gt; please could you share that with me? &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; That's all from my side of this discussion for now - Greetings from the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Netherlandsto you and everyone following this. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Kind Regards &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Patti Molenaar &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; From: &quot;thomaslanefarm@att.net&quot; &lt;thomaslanefarm@att.net&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 20098:41:29 PM &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Hi Patti, &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Bring up the 1901 census screen &amp; go to Ontariosouth as you would on ancestry.  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To get an alternate 1881 census (from Ancestry), you must go to : &lt;BR&gt;&gt; family search.org &lt;BR&gt;&gt;                &lt;BR&gt;&gt; There is a lot more information on line after all.  A descendant of Edward did a &lt;BR&gt;&gt; lot of research &amp; posted way back. Jane's parents were John Sawyer and Sarah &lt;BR&gt;&gt; (Sally ) Campbell.  Sarah was an American &amp; probably the child of a loyalist. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Charles and Jane may have been married by a justice.  The reason for the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 2/7/1843date was that had to wait until a traveling missionary visited the area &lt;BR&gt;&gt; to have a church ceremony.  In the early days of settlements, if word was &lt;BR&gt;&gt; received that a missionary would be passing through the area, word was sent out &lt;BR&gt;&gt; to local families &amp; many would attend even if  they had to sit on freshly cut &lt;BR&gt;&gt; logs and stumps..  This was also common in the United Statesas the frontier &lt;BR&gt;&gt; spread westward. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; It appears that Charles and Jane had 12 or 13 children in all.  There was a &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Minerva, John, Asa was born in 1839, (He settled in Peterborough),  Margaret was &lt;BR&gt;&gt; born about 1840, Edward in 1844, Benjamin 1845, then Julia.  Joseph was thought &lt;BR&gt;&gt; to have been born in Quebecalso (1849), but in the Cornwall/Stormont census, he &lt;BR&gt;&gt; states Ontario.  Jane's parents and her brother Benjamin also moved to Ontario.  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; There is no question but that the younger  LeBare children were born in Ontario &lt;BR&gt;&gt;                       &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Edwards' descendant believes that  the LaBars were also loyalist related.  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; (Possibly descended from American French Huguenots). This was not unknown.  The &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Griggs family of the Eastern Townships had ancestors who had lived in the lower &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Hudson Valley of New York prior to the American Revolution. In this case, I am &lt;BR&gt;&gt; not so sure.  In the 1901 census, Charles stated that his mother tongue was &lt;BR&gt;&gt; French.  It is possible that Charles Sr. did have American ancestry, and became &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Roman Catholic because of his marriage to Louise of Lisette Menard. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;                          &lt;BR&gt;&gt; This is a lot of history.  I hope you can correspond with one of your Canadian &lt;BR&gt;&gt; cousins soon.  If in Ontario, there should be much more to be found. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;                                          &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Margaret.. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; quotes in the subject and the body of the message &lt;/blockquote&gt;

    01/29/2009 09:30:03
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Seeking LeBare and Moor family information
    2. Patti Molenaar
    3. Thanks Lorraine I'll think about that once I've been able to discover who Martha Moore's parents were. Kind Regards Patti ________________________________ From: L Gosselin <lorgo@sympatico.ca> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:21:38 PM Subject: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Seeking LeBare and Moor family information If some of them were loyalists, you might like to consult the United Empire Loyalist directory at http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Info/loyalist_list.php The names of many are listed, sometimes with extensive biographies. Again, for some, contacts exist. Hope this helps, Lorraine in Montreal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:41:25 -0800 (PST) From: Patti Molenaar <pattimolenaar@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family     information To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <724151.17193.qm@web46211.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Some of them are reported to have been United Empire Loyalists. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/29/2009 05:39:00
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information
    2. Patti Molenaar
    3. Hi Margaret   I've already been corresponding with Coolidge - no need to send his direct e-mail address.   I looked at the marriage record you are referring to at Yourfolks.com. It is between Charles Hebert Marie-Louise Menard who were married in 1814. Because I have 6 records including census reports and marriage records verifying that Charles LeBar Jr. was born sometime between 1808 and 1813 which is years earlier than Charles Herbert and Louise Menard were married, I’m not convinced Charles Hebert is the same person as Charles Lebar Sr.  It will be a good exercise for me to pursue it further via the Catholic Parrish records as you suggest.   I’ve been studying old and new maps of Missisquoi Maps and although I don’t if he is an ancestor, there is a B. LaBare (just above LaGranges Mill and plot 44 belonging to Geo. Krans on an old map of Stanbridge on the  Missisquoi Museum web site page link: http://www.museemissisquoi.ca/zmap/missmap5.htm  I sure am looking forward to all the maps of Missiquoi!   On the 1851 Census report, Charles and Louise LeBare (both age 59) are shown as residing in Province: Canada East (Quebec), District: Missisquoi County, District Number: 16, Sub-District: Dunham, Sub-District Number: 223, Page: 136, Line: 25, Roll: C_1127, Schedule: A  along with two of their children; Emily age 14 and Justice age 19. I’d love to get a hold of the 1851 census map and pinpoint exactly where they were living then. I love Google Earth and use it all the time to pinpoint locations I’m researching.   I am corresponding with descendents of Samuel Moore’s and am hoping that among us, we can work out how Martha was related to Samuel. I’ll check for a Peter LeBar as you suggest.   To everyone who is following - the quest to learn the names of Martha Moore’s parents continues!  I very much appreciate every tip and all the info anyone cares to share with me.   Kind Regards Patti Molenaar ________________________________ From: "thomaslanefarm@att.net" <thomaslanefarm@att.net> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:30:03 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information Hi Patty,                   I referred back to yourfolks.com  They also refer to the marriage of Charles Sr. as being to Louise Menard.  I think this is important.  They were married at St Mathius sur Richelieu in Rouville County.  This is a Catholic parish.  To get more on Catholic records, you might get a better answer from the Quebec general list.  There should also be Catholic baptisms.                   Re the Moores      An interesting site for you to look at to see the lay of the land is to do a google search for: digital- map- Ontario-McGill. That will find it for you.    Go to Ontario County & Whitby> people list..  Charles is not recorded as a land owner, but several Moores.  (Possibly Charles lived in the village ? )  I then went to the 1881 census.  Most of the Moores were English or Irish.  I had thought that Samuel Moore and Martha were likely siblings.  The only Moore that fits in 1881 is a Peter Moore  ( lists ethnic as German).  Margaret's husband Samuel Yeo Moore was born in Whitby in 1836 per roots web  His father, Samuel, was born about 1810, but where?.  That is about the end of the leads that I can offer.  Persue the given names of Samuel and Peter..                   I will send you that personal Coolidge E-mail address direct                                   Margaret.

    01/29/2009 05:36:02
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Seeking LeBare and Moor family information
    2. L Gosselin
    3. If some of them were loyalists, you might like to consult the United Empire Loyalist directory at http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Info/loyalist_list.php The names of many are listed, sometimes with extensive biographies. Again, for some, contacts exist. Hope this helps, Lorraine in Montreal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:41:25 -0800 (PST) From: Patti Molenaar <pattimolenaar@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <724151.17193.qm@web46211.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Some of them are reported to have been United Empire Loyalists.

    01/29/2009 04:21:38
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Call Family of Dunham, Missisquoi, Quebec, Canada
    2. Leon Cochran
    3. Not really sure how to get my info request on the Missisquoi County Canada Genealogy Research page. Call Family of Dunham, Missisquoi, Quebec, Canada I have my 3x great grandfather Nathan Call living, alot of "documented" material (getting married, raising a family, farming, and dying) in Dunham, Missisquoi, Canada. My problem is...I can't connect Nathan to a documented father. I'm the type of family genealogist that, if I can't connect a family member with a paper trail...I am not a happy camper and refuse to put an "undocumented" member into my family or engraved in stone until he or she is "documented" with a paper trail. My great grandfather indicated on the 1900 census that his father Lyman Call was born in Vermont, but on his death certificate, it is indicated that his father was born in Canada. I believe the census before I believe the death certificate. Death certificate information always comes from a family member, sometimes, many times removed from the decendent, whereas the census information comes from the primary individual himself/herself. The census informaton just leaves more mystery to the search. Did Nathan and Mary Embury move back to Vermont to have his/her son in 1821 and then move/travel back to Dunham where they continued their lives. Obviously, folks moved/traveled back and forth across the Canada/Vermont in the early 1800's with ease. Was his father Caleb Call of Guildhall, Essex Co., Vt. (easy access to Canada), where I have documentation that a Nathan was born to Caleb in 1791 or was his father Joseph Call who lived in Fletcher, Franklin Co., VT in 1800 with two sons (their ages could fit the 1791 time frame). Joseph is also in Fletcher, Franklin Co., in 1810, but his sons are gone. Fletcher is only 40 miles from Dunham, Mississque...very interesting. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009

    01/29/2009 02:26:04
    1. [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Clarenceville
    2. What Parish is the town of Clarenceville in 1896? I know it's in the county of Missisquoi. I'm having trouble reading a blurred copy of the Drouin Collection. Paula Zoccoli **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

    01/28/2009 08:29:25
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Clarenceville
    2. Pam Wood Waugh
    3. Paula,   It used to be Parish of St George....does it look like that? Pam --- On Wed, 1/28/09, PaulaRandazzo@aol.com <PaulaRandazzo@aol.com> wrote: From: PaulaRandazzo@aol.com <PaulaRandazzo@aol.com> Subject: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] Clarenceville To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 3:29 PM What Parish is the town of Clarenceville in 1896? I know it's in the county of Missisquoi. I'm having trouble reading a blurred copy of the Drouin Collection. Paula Zoccoli **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/28/2009 05:32:15
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information
    2. Patti Molenaar
    3. Hi Margaret   Many thanks. I'll try looking up the 1881 census from Ancestry.com. By the way the web address you copied didn't make it with your email (see below).    I would love to be put into contact with cousins from the area -  that would be brilliant! If you or anyone reading this can help me to contact family members  from the Moore's and LeBar's and related families I'd be very grateful. My Ancestors from these families resided in Whitby, Dunham and then later in Monck, Scuggog, Coboconk, Scott and Georginaand Pefferlaw during the late 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. Some of them are reported to have been United Empire Loyalists. A few immigrated to the USAinto counties located in Michigan's Thumb area. I have only been able to find two rather reluctant contacts in the Ontarioarea who are related by marriage to descendants of my gr-gr grandfather Charles LeBar.    Because I live in The Netherlands my research is limited to what I can obtain on-line and what other family researchers share with me. I keep an open mind about everything I read and always try to obtain records substantiating information whenever possible. Living in Europe, I've been able to visit the areas of Scotland, Englandand Francewhere some of my ancestors are believed to have come from. Some of my ancestors are very well recorded and came from Alsace Lorraine France which is located on the French and German border -  a lovely area where wine is now produced. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any European records for my ancestors yet because the vital link of their American and Canadian immigration records have been unobtainable to me. I'd love to be able to research records for ancestors I share with others. I travel throughout Europeand would be very willing to  do look ups.   My information on John Sawyer's wife's name was Sarah Kimball versus Sarah Cambell as you wrote. I found her birthplace mentioned as St. Armand on the Canada/Vermont border abt. 1775. The Kimball family is recorded in Americafrom 1634 to 1897. Their ancestors were possibly the Kemballs or Kemboldes of England. Regardless, its important I obtain some record on them at the time they were living.   My information about Charle's LeBar Sr's. wife is that she was named Louise Nisnard rather than Menard  as you wrote. Menard in French is Ménard and in English is Maynard. I'm starting to doubt the name was Nisnard - it's a very unusual spelling although it could have  developed from the name Nisard, which is a famous surname recorded in almost every European country since the late Middle Ages but again having records to verify their names when they were living is essential.   The LeBar surname has continued to "develop" in it's spellings, with numerous variants of the original even within the same family making my research very difficult. Speaking of LeBar's that was an iinteresting story you shared regarding the marriage of Jane Sawyer and Charles LeBar. You didn't provide a ref. to whoever was responsible for writing it though - would please share that with me? To my knowledge, no records have been found that confirm the date of their marriage as 2/7/1843- that is 7 months before John LeBar's supposed birth date. Perhaps it was an imagined hypothesis based on general knowledge of the situation about marriages at that time? I wonder if there are any validated stories of other marriages that were performed in that area at that time to support it?   I found names for all 13 of Charles and Jane LeBar's children and have compiled records on some of them validating births, marriages and deaths so I feel comfortable with my knowledge of that generation forward. It is the names of Martha Moore's parents (John LaBar's wife) that I am trying to discover. Anyone who is reading this who has information on what their names may have been - please could you share that with me?   That's all from my side of this discussion for now - Greetings from the Netherlandsto you and everyone following this.   Kind Regards Patti Molenaar     -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thomaslanefarm@att.net" <thomaslanefarm@att.net> To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 20098:41:29 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information   Hi Patti,   Bring up the 1901 census screen & go to Ontariosouth as you would on ancestry.  To get an alternate 1881 census (from Ancestry), you must go to : family search.org                There is a lot more information on line after all.  A descendant of Edward did a lot of research & posted way back. Jane's parents were John Sawyer and Sarah (Sally ) Campbell.  Sarah was an American & probably the child of a loyalist. Charles and Jane may have been married by a justice.  The reason for the 2/7/1843date was that had to wait until a traveling missionary visited the area to have a church ceremony.  In the early days of settlements, if word was received that a missionary would be passing through the area, word was sent out to local families & many would attend even if  they had to sit on freshly cut logs and stumps..  This was also common in the United Statesas the frontier spread westward.   It appears that Charles and Jane had 12 or 13 children in all.  There was a Minerva, John, Asa was born in 1839, (He settled in Peterborough),  Margaret was born about 1840, Edward in 1844, Benjamin 1845, then Julia.  Joseph was thought to have been born in Quebecalso (1849), but in the Cornwall/Stormont census, he states Ontario.  Jane's parents and her brother Benjamin also moved to Ontario.  There is no question but that the younger  LeBare children were born in Ontario                       Edwards' descendant believes that  the LaBars were also loyalist related.  (Possibly descended from American French Huguenots). This was not unknown.  The Griggs family of the Eastern Townships had ancestors who had lived in the lower Hudson Valley of New York prior to the American Revolution. In this case, I am not so sure.  In the 1901 census, Charles stated that his mother tongue was French.  It is possible that Charles Sr. did have American ancestry, and became Roman Catholic because of his marriage to Louise of Lisette Menard.                          This is a lot of history.  I hope you can correspond with one of your Canadian cousins soon.  If in Ontario, there should be much more to be found.                                          Margaret..

    01/27/2009 11:41:25
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information
    2. Hi Patti, Bring up the 1901 census screen & go to Ontario south as you would on ancestry. To get an alternate 1881 census (from Ancestry), you must go to : family search.org There is a lot more information on line after all. A descendant of Edward did a lot of research & posted way back. Jane's parents were John Sawyer and Sarah (Sally ) Campbell. Sarah was an American & probably the child of a loyalist. Charles and Jane may have been married by a justice. The reason for the 2/7/1843 date was that had to wait until a traveling missionary visited the area to have a church ceremony. In the early days of settlements, if word was received that a missionary would be passing through the area, word was sent out to local families & many would attend even if they had to sit on freshly cut logs and stumps. This was also common in the United States as the frontier spread westward. It appears that Charles and Jane had 12 or 13 children in all. There was a Minerva, John, Asa was born in 1839, (He settled in Peterborough), Margaret was born about 1840, Edward in 1844, Benjamin 1845, then Julia. Joseph was thought to have been born in Quebec also (1849), but in the Cornwall/Stormont census, he states Ontario. Jane's parents and her brother Benjamin also moved to Ontario. There is no question but that the younger LeBare children were born in Ontario Edwards' descendant believes that the LaBars were also loyalist related. (Possibly descended from American French Huguenots). This was not unknown. The Griggs family of the Eastern Townships had ancestors who had lived in the lower Hudson Valley of New York prior to the American Revolution. In this case, I am not so sure. In the 1901 census, Charles stated that his mother tongue was French. It is possible that Charles Sr. did have American ancestry, and became Roman Catholic because of his marriage to Louise of Lisette Menard. This is a lot of history. I hope you can correspond with one of your Canadian cousins soon. If in Ontario, there should be much more to be found. Margaret.. . <!--&lt;BR&gt;--> &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid #1010ff 2px"&gt; -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar &amp;lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&amp;gt;: -------------- &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Hi Margaret &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   I went to the website you said to go to but the only Census reports on the page it didn't include a census screen. It also didn't  include the 1881 census. The only census reports I could select to search were the 1901, 1906, 1911, 1852CA, 1851NB census. I must have missed a step. Can you check back and let me know &lt;BR&gt;&gt; please? &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   The name LeBert was changed from Hebert. I'll check youfolks.com for the Charles &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Hebert as you suggested. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Kind Regards &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Patti &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ________________________________ &lt;BR&gt;&gt; From: &quot;thomaslanefarm@att.net&quot; &lt;thomaslanefarm@att.net&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:24:11 PM &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To Patti Molenaar                       Go to automatedgenealogy.com/census.  This is the version &lt;BR&gt;&gt; done by volunteers.                       I, too, had trouble finding the 1881 census.  I finally brought it up in the family search screen.  Go to the census screen.  I put in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; just Charles, born Quebec in 1812 + or- 5 years..  With the older age and the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Quebec birth  it was then right there. &lt;BR&gt;&gt;                       Interesting note that Charles may have been listed &lt;BR&gt;&gt; somewhere as Charles Hebert.  On yourfolks.com  a Jane Sawyer married a Charles &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Hebert in 1843 in Brome.  According to your dates, Jane had John when she was &lt;BR&gt;&gt; about 15.  Her parents could have objected to the marriage as she was a minor, &amp; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; they were married later on &amp; perhaps only after Charles agreed to be married in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; her church.  I suspect Charles came from a Roman Catholic family.  A lot of &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ifs.  If you have ancestry.ca with the 1843 date and the Brome, you may possibly &lt;BR&gt;&gt; be able to check this out with the Drouin records &lt;BR&gt;&gt;                 Margaret Benelli. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;!--&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;--&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;blockquote style=&quot;padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: solid &lt;BR&gt;&gt; #1010ff 2px&quot;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;amp;lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&amp;amp;gt;: -------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; What a very interesting reply indeed! &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Yes I do have the 1901 census report which gives Charles' birth date as 08 May &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 1808.  However, his headstone (which I have a photo of) as well as other census &lt;BR&gt;&gt; reports and marriage records cite different birth dates so I purposely listed it &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to be abt. 1812.  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; I don't seem to be able to get to the 1881 Census report on-line in order to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; review the notation you mentioned from the researcher and their contact details &lt;BR&gt;&gt; who stated that his wife was also a great great great granddaughter. I am so &lt;BR&gt;&gt; curious about that and hope I will be able to view it soon. Do you have the web &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; address to the page Charles appears on in the 1881 Census report &lt;BR&gt;&gt; by any chance? &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; In reference to the note  saying Charles was a widower in 1881, I have found a &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Marriage record for &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Charles LeBair and  M. Ann Widden, Marriage &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Date: 28 Sep &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 1881, Registration Number: 59619, Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Library. I don't know if this is the same Charles because I can't view the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; original record online.  I do have a copy of his marriage record &lt;BR&gt;&gt; to Marie &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bourdineau, however. They were married on  5 July 1897. This &lt;BR&gt;&gt; marriage record &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; gives Charles place of birth as Pointe Levis Quebec and his age &lt;BR&gt;&gt; as 86 years &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; along with his estimated year of birth as abt 1811. It also lists &lt;BR&gt;&gt;  his Fathers &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Name as Chas Lebert and his mother's name as Louise Niesnard, &lt;BR&gt;&gt; which fits.  It &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; also give the parents names for Marie Bourdineau, her age, est. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; birth year and &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the marriage place as Victoria, Victoria County. Family History &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Library &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Microfilm: MS932_94. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Family history is full of surprises isn't it! &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Kind Regards &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Patti Molenaar  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ________________________________ &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;quot;thomaslanefarm@att.net&amp;quot; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;thomaslanefarm@att.net&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To: can-qc-missisquoi@rootsweb.com &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:22:48 PM &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family &lt;BR&gt;&gt; information &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To Patti Molenaar: re: Charles LaBare &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;               You do not mention finding Charles in the 1901 &lt;BR&gt;&gt; census.  I found &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; him by merging alternate spellings with LaBare.  (Go to automated &lt;BR&gt;&gt; genealogy). &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;                 LaBare is spelled as LaBair.  This census gives &lt;BR&gt;&gt; an exact &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; birthdate.  His line is flagged with a note as to the 1881 census &lt;BR&gt;&gt; (Charles was a &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; widower in 1881), and, furthermore, a researcher has stated that &lt;BR&gt;&gt; his wife is &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; also a great great great granddaughter of Charles. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You may contact this researcher directly. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;                                 Margaret Benelli &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--&amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;--&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;div&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;lt;/div&amp;amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;blockquote style=&amp;quot;padding-left: 5px; margin-left: &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 5px; border-left: solid &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; #1010ff 2px&amp;quot;&amp;amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -------------- Original message from Patti Molenaar &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;amp;lt;pattimolenaar@yahoo.com&amp;amp;amp;gt;: -------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I am hoping someone can direct me to some records I havent been &lt;BR&gt;&gt; able to find &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; for my Great Great Great Grandfather &lt;BR&gt;&gt; and my Great Great &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Grandfather LeBare: &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Charles LEBAREwas born about 1812 in Point Levis, &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Quebec(unconfirmed). He died &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 15 May 1903, in the city of Myrtle, Whitby Township, Missisquoi &lt;BR&gt;&gt; County, (Durham &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Region) Ontario where he is buried in Hubbell's Cemetery (I have &lt;BR&gt;&gt; a photo of his &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; gravestone and a copy of his death record). According to a number &lt;BR&gt;&gt; of records I &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; have been able to obtain, he seems to have resided his entire &lt;BR&gt;&gt; adult life in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Whitby,  MissisquoiCounty, (Durham Region) Ontario. He married &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Jane SAWYER (date &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; and place unknown) Jane SAWYER was born about 1819 (date and &lt;BR&gt;&gt; place unknown). She &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; died 28 Sep 1880, in the city of Myrtle, WhitbyTownship, &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Ontariowhere she is &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; buried in Hubbell's Cemetery (I have a &lt;BR&gt;&gt; photo of her gravestone). &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; The Children of Charles LEBARE and &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Jane SAWYER were: &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; i. George Adolphus LEBARE, born 9 Dec &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 1860, in Whitby Twp, &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ontario, died 19 &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; Feb 1930, in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; BillingsTownshipManitoulin Isl., Ontario. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; ii. Margaret LEBARE, born 2 Sep 1840, &lt;BR&gt;&gt; in Myrtle, Ontario. She &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; married Samuel &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; MOORE. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; iii. Benjamin LEBARE. He married Diana &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ROSS. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; iv. John LEBARE, (my Great Great &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Grandfather) was born 2 Sep &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1834, in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; Quebec(unconfirmed). He married Martha &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Moore (date and place &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; unknown, name of &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; parents unknown). He died 27 May 1913, &lt;BR&gt;&gt; in Georgina Twp, Ontario. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; v. Charles Malcolm LEBAR. He married &lt;BR&gt;&gt; (1) Agnes Ruth TORETTE. He &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; married &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; (2) Catherine MURRAY. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; vi. Edward James LEBAR. He married (1) &lt;BR&gt;&gt; Elizabeth DEMERAY. He &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; married (2) &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; Bessie REID. &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; Charles LeBare, his wife and several &lt;BR&gt;&gt; children appear on the 1891 &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Census &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; (attached) but I cant seem to find him &lt;BR&gt;&gt; in the 1851 census. Can &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; anyone suggest &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; where I can find them? or can direct &lt;BR&gt;&gt; me to any early records in &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Missisquoi that &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; record this family and provide the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; documentation I am missing? &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;   &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; Kind Regards &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; Patti Molenaar &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; The Netherlands &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; ------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please &lt;BR&gt;&gt; send an email to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com &lt;BR&gt;&gt; with the word &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 'unsubscribe' without the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; quotes in the subject and the body of &lt;BR&gt;&gt; the &amp;amp;lt;BR&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt; message &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 'unsubscribe' without the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; quotes in the subject and the body of the message &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word &lt;BR&gt;&gt; 'unsubscribe' without the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; quotes in the subject and the body of the &amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&amp;gt; message &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; quotes in the subject and the body of the message &lt;BR&gt;&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&gt; ------------------------------- &lt;BR&gt;&gt; To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to &lt;BR&gt;&gt; CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the &lt;BR&gt;&gt; quotes in the subject and the body of the message &lt;/blockquote&gt;

    01/27/2009 12:41:29
    1. Re: [CAN-QC-MISSISQUOI] seeking LeBare and Moor family information unsubscribe
    2. Hi there: I think this message was sent to me by mistake as I am not aware of these families. I'm very sorry that I can be of no help to you, but wish I could as I'm very interested in Bullock geneology as my ancestors apparently came over from England before the 1800's and settled in the Clarenceville area which is very near where you are searching. Anyway, good luck to you! Sincerely, Gail Bullock Judd, Allison Park, Pa. (outside Pittsburgh, Pa. GO STEELERS!!! **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

    01/26/2009 07:39:18