Marie A Beattie was married to William McMichael in Ireland He was born abt 1785 and She was born abt 1790 and d. 3 aug 1842 in Kilmore Cem. Kilmore Cavan Ireland. the had at least one son Archibald b 5 apr 1833 in Ireland and d. 9 aug 1902. Any info would be greatly appreciated, Thank You. Fran

Yes, it will always be a Merry Christmas and Happy Healthy and wealthy New Year to all my friends on these lists. You have been so very patient with me and all my questions and mistakes, that I'm really proud to call all of you my friends. Thank You and Have a Good One. Fran

again, thanks to the Irish Heritage Newsletter for sharing this recipe.... Irish Triffle Makes about 8 servings Triffle Loaf: 1 stale spongecake 4 tablespoons raspberry jam 1/2 to 2/3 cup sherry 1/3 cup irish whiskey, optional (see note) *custard (recipe follows) 1/2 tablespoon granulated sugar **few drops vanilla 1/2 cup almonds, blanched and slivered, optional **slices of kiwifruit and strawberries for garnish, opional Custartd 1 egg 2 egg yolks 1 tablespoon granulated sugar 2 cups milk To make triffle: Split the spongecake into three or four layers and spread each layer with raspberry jam. Put the pieces in a pretty glass bowl. Pour the sherry (mixed with the whiskey, if desired) over the spongecake and let it soak an hour To make the custard: Beat the egg and egg yolks together with the sugar. Heat the milk to just below boiling point and pour over the eggs, beating constantly. Cook the custartd in the top of a double boiler over simmering hot, not boiling, water until it's thick and creamy. Pour the custard over the cake and cool. Meanwhile, whip the cream with the sugar, fold in the vanilla. Pile the whipped cream over the top of the triffle. Decorate with the almonds, kiwi and strawberries if desired. Note: The whiskey, when added to the sherry, gives the triffle a more pungent flavor. It's not for all tastes. If in doubt, leave it out! -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

thanks to George Steeler from the Ireland Heritage Newsletter... Turnip Candleholder In Ireland, it is a Christmas tradition to place lighted candles in the front windows of the house. In the past, many families did not own enough candleholders, so they improvised. Turnips were plentiful and both large and heavy enough to hold a candle. What the Irish refer to as a turnip is a rutabaga in America. Assemble: rutabaga paring knife candle (preferably a drip candle) small plate or plastic lid holly and greens To view step by step directions please go to http://www2.worldbook.com/features/holidays/html/candle.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Would anyone have information on these two people, Denis O'NEIL b. abt.1830 not sure were and Julie O'CONNOR b. abt 1835. They have at least 3 children, my grgrandmother (Julia) Julie Catherine b. 13 Jul 1858 in Ontario Canada and 2 others, and all I have is there names, Richard Michel, and Mary. That's about all I have on them. What I would like is there parents and date of there marriage and place and did they have other children, and where are they from Ireland? or Canada. They were Catholic so might have a registration in a church for marriage or Christening but where? Any information would be greatly appreciated and Thank You in advance for all your hard work. All the best of luck, Fran

I received an advertisement from Ancestry yesterday that said they would be adding some vital records and the 1911 Canadian census to the databases very soon. This is an FYI for those who may be interested. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added 2000 more records to the Index for the 1851 Census for Liverpool Irish born people. I will be taking a break from transcribing the records until the New Year when I will get up to speed again. I am sure you all understand that it is a very busy time of the year for everyone. I wish you all a very Happy Christmas and a prosperous and healthy New Year. May all your brick walls come tumbling down in 2006. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Good morning List, My Ontario, Canada Irish ancestors: WALSH, David, birth date unknown, place of birth, Ireland, death date unknown, probable place, Toronto, Ontario, Canada after 1879 but before 1886, married Jemina E. McMullen abt 1877. David's name is off of my Great Grandfather's Death Record in St. Paul, Minnesota, he (Oliver WALSH, son of David WALSH and Jemina McMULLEN) died March 23, 1909. McMULLEN, Thomas born abt. 1834 in Ireland, only census that I have seen was 1881/St. Patrick's Ward/Toronto/York/Canada, died Toronto? Wife of Thomas was Susan born abt. 1839 in Ireland (info. from same census) Death record of their daughter Jemina E. WALSH SHIRLEY nee McMULLEN states: 1. Name of Father: Thomas McMULLEN Birthplace of Father: Ireland 2. Maiden name of Mother: Susan DELMADGE Birthplace of Mother: Ireland Thomas and Susan had atleast 11 children with the last 4 being born in Ontario. Anyone connected to Thomas and Susan McMULLEN? Or anyone connected to David WALSH? David and Jemina had 3 children, all I know of is my Great Grandfather, Oliver WALSH. And the surname DELMADGE, anyone ever heard of this name? I have tried on the net and can't seem to find any leads on it but when it comes to WALSH or McMULLEN....Wow, it would take me 50 years to filter through those! Any help forward with my Grt Grt Grandfather David WALSH or my Grt Grt Grt Grandparents Thomas McMULLEN and Susan DELMADGE would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Connie Westcott --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

I have added a blog to my website and one of the topics I started yesterday was Irish Christmas Recipes. Instead of sending them to the list, I think this is an easier way to share recipes and ask questions about them, rather than on the list which is mostly geared to genealogy. Please feel free to add recipes to the blog and/or put questions on the blog. If you have problems using it, write me off list and I'll do what I can to help you. I am actually in a learning curve with it myself. You will find a link to the blog near the top of my website (URL under my name). -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Here is an interesting article that a couple of people have sent me to pass on to my Irish lists. It is about how Canada is helping Ireland with getting their censuses on line with free access for all. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051206/tc_afp/irelandcanadahistory -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Thank You, I have been looking for a good recipy for a while. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: [Ontario Irish] Irish Christmas Scones, recipe > George of the Irish Heritage Newsletter is busy, just be the Christmas > season, he sends along another recipe. You can try this after the Ginger > cake.... > > Irish Christmas Scones > > These rich scones are commonly served during the festive season in > Ireland. > > 3 cups plain flour > 1 teaspoon cream of tartar > 1 cup of buttermilk > 1 teaspoon salt > 1 teaspoon baking powder > 1. Stir together dry ingredients and mix lightly with hands. > 2. Make a hollow in the centre and add enough buttermilk to make a soft > dough. > 3. Turn onto floured board and knead quickly and lightly until the dough > is free from cracks. > 4. Roll out until 1/2cm thick and cut into rounds. > 5. Place on greased oven sheet and bake at 350 degrees for 15 minutes > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > ==== CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Check out the ONTARIO IRISH webpage at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/OntarioIrish/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

George of the Irish Heritage Newsletter is busy, just be the Christmas season, he sends along another recipe. You can try this after the Ginger cake.... Irish Christmas Scones These rich scones are commonly served during the festive season in Ireland. 3 cups plain flour 1 teaspoon cream of tartar 1 cup of buttermilk 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon baking powder 1. Stir together dry ingredients and mix lightly with hands. 2. Make a hollow in the centre and add enough buttermilk to make a soft dough. 3. Turn onto floured board and knead quickly and lightly until the dough is free from cracks. 4. Roll out until 1/2cm thick and cut into rounds. 5. Place on greased oven sheet and bake at 350 degrees for 15 minutes -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is from George Steeler of the Irish Heritage Newsletter. I also left his remarks about the recipe. Irish Heritage member Jean sent in this tasty recipe. I recommend this recipe highly. I made it last year and it was a tremendous hit was my wife's family. And if I can do it, believe me anyone can. Hahahaha Top it off with whip cream, and you have a delicious after dinner desert. Hi George, here is a recipe that is really good. Instead of Molasses use the black treacle. Jean from my grandmother's recipe file IRISH BLACK GINGER CAKE 1/2 cup butter, softened (1 stick) --do not use margarine 1/2 cup sugar 1 egg 1 cup dark molasses 2 1/2 cups flour 1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon 1 teaspoon ground cloves 1 teaspoon ground ginger 1/2 teaspoon salt 1 1/2 teaspoons baking soda 1 cup hot, freshly brewed strong coffee Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Butter an 8-inch square or 9-inch round cake pan and set aside. Beat together the butter and sugar until smooth. In a large bowl, beat egg into molasses, then add to the butter mixture. Sift together flour, cinnamon, cloves, ginger and salt, then fold into the butter mixture. Dissolve baking soda in coffee, then add it to the batter. Beat vigorously until well blended. Scrape the batter into the prepared pan. Bake 45 to 60 minutes or until a tester inserted into the center of the cake comes out clean. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Dear Stuart Keill, Thank you for contacting me. The Patrick Slater book is the same as John Mitchell's. He used a pseudonym for this publication so you are on the right track. You will be interested in Catherine Wilson's book, A NEW LEASE ON LIFE: LANDLORDS, TENANTS AND IMMIGRANTS IN IRELAND AND CANADA, published in 1994 by McGill-Queen's Press. It deals with Irish settlement on Amherst Island. In the index, I see a reference to Eliza Scott (Mrs. McMaster), so there is probably some relationship. Best wishes, Michael Kenneally -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Keill, MD [mailto:skeill@lords.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:53 PM To: CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Ontario Irish] 1911 Canadian census Dear Prof. Kenneally, . The note about your research project arrived yesterday. Since my 2 of my great grandparents, Francis and Mary (Scott) McMaster, emigrated from County Down in 1856 to settle on Amherst Island, the subject struck me. You referred to Slater's "The Yellow Briar" from the 1920s. I tried to find the book without success. I did find a novel "The Yellow Briar: a Story of the Irish in the Canadian Countryside" : by John Mitchell published in the thirties and reissued in 1940. Is this a coincidence or? In any case the local library has agreed to borrow a copy for me. Meanwhile good luck on your venture. I hope it will be published. Best regards. Stuart Keill -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kenneally [mailto:kenneal@vax2.concordia.ca] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:20 PM To: CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Ontario Irish] 1911 Canadian census Dear Pat Connors, I would like to be permitted to send out a message on your listserv, if I may. I am doing research on the Irish in Canada, especially in Ontario, in the nineteenth and into the twentieth century. I am interested in two general areas: How Irish immigrants represented themselves and their experiences in diaries, memoirs, letters, autobiographies, travel writing and even biographies. How do they remember and write about Ireland, its landscape and people, and how they remember and write about the idea of home? How do they respond to the physical, social and political reality of Canada? How are the memories of Ireland compared with the realities of Canada? I am also interested in these same subjects but this time as written by others, by non-Irish writers, in the literary forms mentioned above but also in novels, short stories, plays, essays or poems. I would be extremely grateful for any information about the existence of these two general categories of texts from you subscribers. The texts can have been published or not; unpublished diaries, memoirs or letters would be particularly interesting. If any of your subscribers would like to contact me about their knowledge of such texts, I would be very grateful. For example, Patrick Slater's 1920's novel, THE YELLOW BRIAR: A Story of the Irish on the Canadian Countryside gives us fascinating insight in the experience of the Irish in the countryside of Ontario in the second half of the nineteenth century. The use of such texts and references to them would be appropriately recognized and acknowledged. I would welcome any comments or suggestions from your members. Yours sincerely, Professor Michael Kenneally Chair in Canadian Irish Studies Concordia University, Montreal ==== CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH Mailing List ==== Check out the ONTARIO IRISH webpage at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/OntarioIrish/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH Mailing List ==== Add your names to the Ontario Irish surname registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/OntarioIrish/surnames.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Dear Prof. Kenneally, . The note about your research project arrived yesterday. Since my 2 of my great grandparents, Francis and Mary (Scott) McMaster, emigrated from County Down in 1856 to settle on Amherst Island, the subject struck me. You referred to Slater's "The Yellow Briar" from the 1920s. I tried to find the book without success. I did find a novel "The Yellow Briar: a Story of the Irish in the Canadian Countryside" : by John Mitchell published in the thirties and reissued in 1940. Is this a coincidence or? In any case the local library has agreed to borrow a copy for me. Meanwhile good luck on your venture. I hope it will be published. Best regards. Stuart Keill -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kenneally [mailto:kenneal@vax2.concordia.ca] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:20 PM To: CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Ontario Irish] 1911 Canadian census Dear Pat Connors, I would like to be permitted to send out a message on your listserv, if I may. I am doing research on the Irish in Canada, especially in Ontario, in the nineteenth and into the twentieth century. I am interested in two general areas: How Irish immigrants represented themselves and their experiences in diaries, memoirs, letters, autobiographies, travel writing and even biographies. How do they remember and write about Ireland, its landscape and people, and how they remember and write about the idea of home? How do they respond to the physical, social and political reality of Canada? How are the memories of Ireland compared with the realities of Canada? I am also interested in these same subjects but this time as written by others, by non-Irish writers, in the literary forms mentioned above but also in novels, short stories, plays, essays or poems. I would be extremely grateful for any information about the existence of these two general categories of texts from you subscribers. The texts can have been published or not; unpublished diaries, memoirs or letters would be particularly interesting. If any of your subscribers would like to contact me about their knowledge of such texts, I would be very grateful. For example, Patrick Slater's 1920's novel, THE YELLOW BRIAR: A Story of the Irish on the Canadian Countryside gives us fascinating insight in the experience of the Irish in the countryside of Ontario in the second half of the nineteenth century. The use of such texts and references to them would be appropriately recognized and acknowledged. I would welcome any comments or suggestions from your members. Yours sincerely, Professor Michael Kenneally Chair in Canadian Irish Studies Concordia University, Montreal ==== CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH Mailing List ==== Check out the ONTARIO IRISH webpage at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/OntarioIrish/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Dear Pat Connors, I would like to be permitted to send out a message on your listserv, if I may. I am doing research on the Irish in Canada, especially in Ontario, in the nineteenth and into the twentieth century. I am interested in two general areas: How Irish immigrants represented themselves and their experiences in diaries, memoirs, letters, autobiographies, travel writing and even biographies. How do they remember and write about Ireland, its landscape and people, and how they remember and write about the idea of home? How do they respond to the physical, social and political reality of Canada? How are the memories of Ireland compared with the realities of Canada? I am also interested in these same subjects but this time as written by others, by non-Irish writers, in the literary forms mentioned above but also in novels, short stories, plays, essays or poems. I would be extremely grateful for any information about the existence of these two general categories of texts from you subscribers. The texts can have been published or not; unpublished diaries, memoirs or letters would be particularly interesting. If any of your subscribers would like to contact me about their knowledge of such texts, I would be very grateful. For example, Patrick Slater's 1920's novel, THE YELLOW BRIAR: A Story of the Irish on the Canadian Countryside gives us fascinating insight in the experience of the Irish in the countryside of Ontario in the second half of the nineteenth century. The use of such texts and references to them would be appropriately recognized and acknowledged. I would welcome any comments or suggestions from your members. Yours sincerely, Professor Michael Kenneally Chair in Canadian Irish Studies Concordia University, Montreal

Here is a website where an index for every surname in the census in Ontario is being developed. Many counties are already on line and more go on each day. http://allcensusrecords.com/canada/ontario/ontario1911.shtml -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This if from John Grenham's, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors, 1st Edition. 1641 Book of Survey and Distribution 1654 Civil Survey 1659 Pender's Census 1663 Hearth Money Roll (partial) 1775-1835 Schools of Kildare and Leighlin 1798 List of thos who suffered loss in 1798 Rebellion 1820s-30s Tithe books 1831 Kilcullen, Protestant returns, 19th century census returns 1837 Registered voters 1840 Castledermott and Moone 1851 Griffith's Valuation 1901 Census 1911 Census The above sources are either in books or microfilmed. Most are at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. Many have been filmed by the LDS Family History Library. You can check for them here: http://www.familysearch.org -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Howdy. Does anyone know of closing dates for the Archives in December? Will the Archives be open on 23 December (Friday)? Thanks -- Bruce J. Martin comstone@gmail.com

I would like to take this time to thank everyone who offered good Luck wishes on my hospital stay thank You. And If I have missed anyone or not replied now that I can see my screen, Please resend and I will be delighted to reply. Now I go to eat and look at my recipes. Thank You all, Fran from Ottawa.