Would anyone have information on Isabella Lindsay b. abt 1855 in Co. Cavan Ireland d. 1920 Howick, Huron Co. Ontario, who married William Weir in 1875 in Huron Co. On. Canada, b. 15 Dec 1854, Wentworth On. Canada d. 27 Nov 1913 Wentworth, Huron Co. On. Canada. They had at least on child David Lindsay Weir b. 11 Aug 1877 Wentworth, Huron co. On. Canada and d. 5 Dec 1958 Wingham On. Canada. Any info on her parents and/or her children would be greatly appreciated. thank You in advance for all your hard work. Thanks Again, Fran

These are my g grandparents. I think, but am not positive, that William Robert was born Apr 14, 1831 in Ottawa, Carleton County. . Approx. 1875, he married Jane Russell Spence. Jane would be his second wife, as on the 1881 Canadian Census there is a Belinda who is 18 yr. old and Jane was 27. It is impossible for Jane to be her mother. Can anyone find a record of his first marriage? Would there be any way to prove that the William born in 1831 is the same William who married Jane. They were both Presbyterian. Jane was supposed to be born in Ireland, I don't know where, on Apr 24, 1855 but of Scotch descent. I wonder if Jane was really born 1854. Jane's emigration was supposed to be in 1862 according to the census, so at age 7. Can anyone help me? Can anyone find William and Jane's marriage in Ontario? They had a son Allan Forest Johnson, born in Billings Bridge (where is that) Ontario, who died in Carman, Manitoba. William and Jane moved there later on. There ! was a Violet Jane, Gertrude, Cora May, Armon Harrington, and Benjamin James born in Manitoba. Armon is my grandfather. I do so want to find out more about William and Jane, especially their parents. Peggy

Sorry to ask this when I have seen it on this list but I can't find it now. I must have files it in the wrong place, would someone please re-send the list or URL that was on this list about 1or 2 mts ago. On where to look up about the Orange Men's Lodge in Ontario. Any help would be great, Thank You very much, Fran

Here is a website I found today that has the book, Township of Thorold 1793-1967, totally on line and searchable. You can find it here: http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.asp?id=4868 -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Here is a website listing, by county, those deported/transported from Ireland from 1737-1743. It is a big list (1,920 persons in 7 yrs): http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ua-free_Convicts-and-Vagabonds.html While it gives dates, and whether the transported person was a convict or a vagabond, I can't find where they were transported to. However, I would guess it was Australia. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

As you may know, I have transcribed many Griffith's Valuation records for the various counties I have covered on my website. In fact, I just did a bunch for 11 small civil parishes in county Leix/Laois/Queens. If you are new to Ireland genealogy or don't quite know what the GV covers, please check out my new blog where I have just entered a fairly complete description of the GV. It can be found in 'comments' under Ireland Genealogy Sources. Check it out and if you want to add to the description and/or add more sources, go right ahead, that is what the blog is for...the url for my website is under my name. At the top of my homepage, you will find a link for the blog. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

The Ireland GenWeb County Mayo website has been updated. A webpage for the Ballysakeery Civil Parish has been add. Webpages for the following town(land)s have been added/updated: Ballintecan, Broadlands, Knockafarson, Carrowkelly, Carrowreagh, Cloonawillin, Cloonshinnagh, Coonealcauraun, Coonealmore, Derreens, Knockalough, Knockatinnole, Lecarrow, Lisglennon, Mullafurry, Rathbal, Foxford Town, Newtownwhite, Rathglass East & West, Rathroeen, Rosserk, Rusheens, Freaghillan, Goose Island, Inishdugh, Balloughadalla, Ballybroony, Ballymackeehola, Cloonfadda, Cloonmaan, Coolcran, Farragh, Knockaunderry, Magherabrack, Raheens, Rathoma, Ballynaboll, Lauvlyer, Tooreenphilip, Ballysakeery, Cloonalough, Allwoan, Tonacrock, Gortbaun New records, links and surnames have also been added. If you have any additions, suggestions and/or corrections to this website, please write me off line. You can find the site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmayo/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

"To Their Heirs Forever." Eula C. Lapp, Global Heritage Press (Ontario), 2000. (Fourth Printing) A story of the Loyalists of the American Revolution who left Camden Valley, Charlotte Co., New York Province, to join the British in 1776. Some of the surnames involved were: Bininger, Carscallen, Detlor, Dulmage, Embury, Heck, Hoffman, Lawrence, Miller, Sparling and Switzer. FROM EDWARD SCOTT, 01OCT02: George Lawrence, Private. ["Larence", "laurence"] Born 26Mar1757, in County Limerick, Ireland. Emigrated to Vermont with his parents when he was ten years old. Married Sarah [BECROFT/BEACRAFT/ETCof Schoharie, N.Y.]. Drawing rations at Niagara in Bradt's company in Nov 1783; twenty-six years olf. His wife, Sary, and son, William, eight months old, were not yet at Niagara. Took the oath of allegiance at Niagara sometime between Nov1784 and Jun1785. Wife and one child in 1786. Settled at Lawrenceville (Virgil), Niagara Township, Upper Canada. Land entitlement in the district of Nassau in 1792 totaled 550 acres. On the UE list, 1797. Captain 1st Regiment, Lincoln Militia, in 1812. Seven children. Died 5Aug1848, aged 91. buried in the Virgil Methodist Cemetery. //A(16)B; C(2)B; C(2); D(1)A; E(2)D; E(50); E(54); E(73). ---HE DID NOT GIVE THE SOURCE OF THIS RECORD, but most of this comes from An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784 With Documentary Sources as compiled and arranged by Lieutenant Colonel William A. Smy, OMM, CD, UE; also, William A. Sym called "An Annotated Nomial Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784 With Documentary Sources" It is from page 118. . . FOLLOW UP: This information is taken from An annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784 With Documentary Sources as mentioned in the email earlier. The codes at the bottom identify the original source of the records. Since we are selling this book as a fund-raiser for the Friends of The Loyalist Collection at Brock University I would hope that you would invest in the purchase of the book, and thereby have the all the information available. The book may be purchased on line through our website www.brockloyalisthistorycollection.ca or by mail with a cheque or money order for $50.00 CDN from The Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University, P.O. Box 23041, RPO Seaway Mall 800 Niagara Street, Welland, ON Canada L3C 7E7 Loyally Ed Scott UE Peter Lawrence, s/o Loyalist Captain George LAWRENCE, Sr., Butlers Rangers, Fort Niagara, and The War of 1812, founder of Lawrenceville, aka "Virgil, Methodist teacher, resided in Thorold in 1815. UCLP L11/13 C2126 Upper Canada Land Records: Of Thorold, yeoman, son of Captain George Laurence of the Township of Niagara, a U.E. Loyalist, is 24 years of age, born in the Township of Niagara, asks for 200 acres. Has taken the Oath of allegiance. His idenity is testified to by George Laurance, 1812. Granted 20 May1817. VIRGIL & VICINITY "The early inhabitants called it the Four Mile Creek Settlement where the Four Mile Creek Road met the Black Swamp Road. The community slowly grew and consisted of a few farm houses. Later Mills were built on the Four Mile Creek and George Lawrence and John C. Ball laid out the Village and its first name was "Crossroads'. In the very early days, the Church of England, the Baptists and the Methodists all had a strong religious following in the Village. George Lawrence, a Methodist, stood out as an outstanding leader in the Methodist Church and the Community decided to name their village "Lawrenceville". VIRGIL METHODIST CHURCH "In this small graveyard is a stone to one who is called in Carroll's Case (the history of Canadian Methodism) a saint; he was a prisoner at the capture of Niagara and was long a class leader in the village named after him. GEORGE LAWRENCE, born Mar. 26, 1757 died Aug.5, 1848, age 91 yrs. Other Lawrence Family Members buried in this Church yard: LAWRENCE, Catherine, 1816-1844 Wife of George B. LAWRENCE, Eliza Ann, 1798 - 1851, wife of Benjamin.

I don't know those names myself but I would bet my aunts did. Unfortunately they are all gone now. As for the St. Catharines library...I am planning a road trip down there in the next couple of weeks (depending on how the weather behaves). I discovered they have an online news index with births, marriages, deaths etc. You can access through there web site and the local history link. I found a ton of items that I want to go and get copies of (online it's just an index). The time frame is around 1900 - 1930 but they are continuously adding to it. If you find anything interesting for yourself in the index, I would be happy to grab the copies for you while I'm there. The Niagara Public Library also has an online news index. I sent them an email asking how I could get copies of the articles and they actually scanned them and put them online right in the index for me and all to see. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors [mailto:nymets11@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:48 PM To: CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ontario Irish] Thorold > > >I noticed on your home page that you have a section >called "Thorold" coming soon. This is where he eventually settled and raised >his family. Can you tell me what that section will contain or if you need >any help as I am still close by the area. > I have three families that settled in Thorold in the early-mid 1800s. Boyle and Booth from County Kilkenny and Carter from the Chesterfield area of England. I have been there a couple of times and need to go back for a couple more days. I found St Catherine's library most informative. BTW I was contacted by the owners of the house built by my ggrandfather, Henry Carter. The house has been designated as a historical building. The owners are going to send me pictures and history of the house and it will really be good for my family history book. When I get the time to open that section of my website, it will look like most of the others, format wise. I try to keep the same format for each surname and/or locality. They are different, of course, than the mailing list webpages that I keep at the site for the convenience of the mailing list's subscribers. Some of the lists' webpages, such as the NY-Irish list, have taken on a life of their own with links, lookup volunteers, etc. Other than a couple of my family surnames, the Canada, Thorold section of my website is the last to open, so your email is a good reminder to me to get started...will do so soon. Thanks. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ==== CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH Mailing List ==== Add your names to the Ontario Irish surname registry at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/OntarioIrish/surnames.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Pat, thank you for all of the great information you send. The recipes, stories and helpful information. My great great grandfather was a young 20 year old man in the west of Mayo during the time of this big wind. Perhaps that and the famine were what inspired him to board that ship in Killala in 1846 and come to Canada. I noticed on your home page that you have a section called "Thorold" coming soon. This is where he eventually settled and raised his family. Can you tell me what that section will contain or if you need any help as I am still close by the area. Regards, Sharon -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors [mailto:nymets11@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:32 PM To: CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ontario Irish] The Night of the BIG WIND, Sunday, January 6-7, 1839 Thanks to George Trainor of the Irish Heritage Newsletter for passing this on. The Night of the BIG WIND Oi'che na Gaoithe Mo'ire_ (The Night of the Big Wind) is the name given to the night of Sunday, January 6-7, 1839 A disastrous storm struck Ireland Sunday, January 6, 1839. The day began well enough. The children were outside playing in the snow. Indoors was hustle and bustle as everyone was looking forward to the evening's festivities of Little Christmas. At about three o'clock in the afternoon it became unnaturally still. So calm that voices floated between farmhouses more than a mile apart. Something strange was happening but no one knew exactly what. Maybe it was just as well for what followed was the most terrifying night of their lives. The violence of the storm, its sheer brutality, horrified those who lived through it; many counted it the most extraordinary experience of their lives. Along the western seaboard people made their peace with God, convinced that the end of the world was at hand. The morning after, the sun rose on a wasted land. Familiar things were unrecognizeable. Known landmarks were gone. The country came to a standstill. People were dazed and bleary from lack of sleep and nervous exhaustion. The storm had been an ecological disaster. Nothing was where it should be. The produce of the land was in the rivers and the rivers were in the fields. Boats were put out to gather hay. Much of the harvest ended up in the Atlantic and the waters of the Irish Sea swept into "old scaws and bog holes". Grain was killed by frost or eaten by birds and grew where it dropped. People survived by helping each other. There was an outbreak of something close to brotherly love. Folks opened their homes, sheltering, and where necessary, feeding and clothing relatives and neighbors. This warmth was so universal that it is almost shocking to read of the clergyman in County Cork who took refuge in a hotel. Had he no friends or neighbors? Did no one love him? All did not suffer equally. Ulster, the West and Midlands bore the brunt of the storm. Almost every class of building was damaged; factories and barracks were ruined; windmills were decapitated and set on fire. Agriculture, industry, commerce and communications were all seriously disrupted. Belfast's great cathedrals of manufacture were hard hit. Given the storm's ferocity, the death toll was surprisingly low. Perhaps 250-300 people lost their lives, most at sea in the disastrous wrecks. There were many lucky escapes. The story of the relief effort reads like a dry run for the Famine. What did the administration do? Nothing! At first glance this may seem to reveal the British indifference towards Ireland's suffering but it was not. Liverpool and Manchester, equally devastated, received no help either. The explanation runs deeper. Even if the government wished to intervene, the mechanism to do so was lacking. In most places, it was down to self help and charity. Schools were opened as shelters, soup kitchens were set up and straw was distributed for thatching. Another problem was the contract between landlord and tenant. This required the tenant to make good on storm damage. In the crowded West the situation was critical. Food shortages, typhus and cholera were feared. The price of food was high even before the storm. Potatoes were "at a famine price" in January and the storm decimated reserves. In Connemara, where provisions were already scarce, fears of famine were widely voiced. A natural disaster was the last thing these people needed, particularly in the south-west. The countryside had secret societies with interclass and factional outrages a daily occurrence. Rural violence was an important part of the background of the storm. Although it heightened many of the pre-existing stresses in the social order, it did not upset it, at least not enough to require reform. Ireland did not profit from the experience but marched toward the Famine. The Big Wind of 1839 was a landmark experience, a horror that was in its way comparable to the Famine. What the Wind did to property, the Famine did to life. More people were made homeless during the night of the Big Wind than were evicted during the years 1850-1880. It straddled Ireland and England, did great damage to parts of Scotland, the northeast and Midlands of England, and the coast of Wales. It crossed the North Sea to Denmark, then dominated the eastern Baltic for several days before dissipating. The storm generated a mass of lore. Stories by the millions circulated. Why did it cast such a spell? The answer is probably fear and people's sense of helplessness in the face of it. Even though it was common experience, the storm was essentially a personal affair. It had a life in the hearts of the men and women who experienced it, in the detail of personal experience. The storm came in the night, climaxing in its darkest hours, and totally without warning. There was a profusion of weird wind effects. The losses were not only measured in pounds, shillings and pence, but in the personal tragedies of homelessness, lost limbs and deaths. Effects were subtle and delayed. The full impact was registered in the spring when people went to market. The towns looked patched and the fields were overgrown with wheat and oats and mongrel crops. A great source for historians is newspapers. In 1839 some 83 newspapers were being published in Ireland, seventeen of them in Dublin. While Ireland was viewed from a range of political perspectives, it was covered from a high and relatively narrow social base. All the papers grieved over the condition of the country, but few took the trouble to send out correspondents. Editors depended on letters from subscribers, borrowed copy and lurid travelers' tales. From Sunday night on, horrendous reports flooded in the newspaper offices. But within a fortnight the disaster disappeared from the newspapers. Memories of the Big Wind were rekindled in 1909 when the Old Age Pension was initiated. Everyone aged seventy and over was entitled to a weekly pension. How do you prove your age if there are no birth records? If you could remember the Big Wind, or make a good show of remembering, you were eligible for the pension. One reason the storm was so memorable was the extraordinary sound of the wind. What else happened because of the Big Wind? Building standards changed. Thatching was pegged. Houses were placed with the gable to the west. Implementation of the Poor Law was hastened by the need for disaster relief. Historians have mostly ignored the Big Wind. It had no social origins, few social consequences and it did not topple a government. No one could use it as a political weapon as they did with the Famine. Reprinted with permission from The Celtic Knot Vol.1, No.1 February 1994 -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ==== CAN-ONTARIO-IRISH Mailing List ==== Check out the ONTARIO IRISH webpage at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/OntarioIrish/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

> > >I noticed on your home page that you have a section >called "Thorold" coming soon. This is where he eventually settled and raised >his family. Can you tell me what that section will contain or if you need >any help as I am still close by the area. > I have three families that settled in Thorold in the early-mid 1800s. Boyle and Booth from County Kilkenny and Carter from the Chesterfield area of England. I have been there a couple of times and need to go back for a couple more days. I found St Catherine's library most informative. BTW I was contacted by the owners of the house built by my ggrandfather, Henry Carter. The house has been designated as a historical building. The owners are going to send me pictures and history of the house and it will really be good for my family history book. When I get the time to open that section of my website, it will look like most of the others, format wise. I try to keep the same format for each surname and/or locality. They are different, of course, than the mailing list webpages that I keep at the site for the convenience of the mailing list's subscribers. Some of the lists' webpages, such as the NY-Irish list, have taken on a life of their own with links, lookup volunteers, etc. Other than a couple of my family surnames, the Canada, Thorold section of my website is the last to open, so your email is a good reminder to me to get started...will do so soon. Thanks. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Thanks to George Trainor of the Irish Heritage Newsletter for passing this on. The Night of the BIG WIND Oi'che na Gaoithe Mo'ire_ (The Night of the Big Wind) is the name given to the night of Sunday, January 6-7, 1839 A disastrous storm struck Ireland Sunday, January 6, 1839. The day began well enough. The children were outside playing in the snow. Indoors was hustle and bustle as everyone was looking forward to the evening's festivities of Little Christmas. At about three o'clock in the afternoon it became unnaturally still. So calm that voices floated between farmhouses more than a mile apart. Something strange was happening but no one knew exactly what. Maybe it was just as well for what followed was the most terrifying night of their lives. The violence of the storm, its sheer brutality, horrified those who lived through it; many counted it the most extraordinary experience of their lives. Along the western seaboard people made their peace with God, convinced that the end of the world was at hand. The morning after, the sun rose on a wasted land. Familiar things were unrecognizeable. Known landmarks were gone. The country came to a standstill. People were dazed and bleary from lack of sleep and nervous exhaustion. The storm had been an ecological disaster. Nothing was where it should be. The produce of the land was in the rivers and the rivers were in the fields. Boats were put out to gather hay. Much of the harvest ended up in the Atlantic and the waters of the Irish Sea swept into "old scaws and bog holes". Grain was killed by frost or eaten by birds and grew where it dropped. People survived by helping each other. There was an outbreak of something close to brotherly love. Folks opened their homes, sheltering, and where necessary, feeding and clothing relatives and neighbors. This warmth was so universal that it is almost shocking to read of the clergyman in County Cork who took refuge in a hotel. Had he no friends or neighbors? Did no one love him? All did not suffer equally. Ulster, the West and Midlands bore the brunt of the storm. Almost every class of building was damaged; factories and barracks were ruined; windmills were decapitated and set on fire. Agriculture, industry, commerce and communications were all seriously disrupted. Belfast's great cathedrals of manufacture were hard hit. Given the storm's ferocity, the death toll was surprisingly low. Perhaps 250-300 people lost their lives, most at sea in the disastrous wrecks. There were many lucky escapes. The story of the relief effort reads like a dry run for the Famine. What did the administration do? Nothing! At first glance this may seem to reveal the British indifference towards Ireland's suffering but it was not. Liverpool and Manchester, equally devastated, received no help either. The explanation runs deeper. Even if the government wished to intervene, the mechanism to do so was lacking. In most places, it was down to self help and charity. Schools were opened as shelters, soup kitchens were set up and straw was distributed for thatching. Another problem was the contract between landlord and tenant. This required the tenant to make good on storm damage. In the crowded West the situation was critical. Food shortages, typhus and cholera were feared. The price of food was high even before the storm. Potatoes were "at a famine price" in January and the storm decimated reserves. In Connemara, where provisions were already scarce, fears of famine were widely voiced. A natural disaster was the last thing these people needed, particularly in the south-west. The countryside had secret societies with interclass and factional outrages a daily occurrence. Rural violence was an important part of the background of the storm. Although it heightened many of the pre-existing stresses in the social order, it did not upset it, at least not enough to require reform. Ireland did not profit from the experience but marched toward the Famine. The Big Wind of 1839 was a landmark experience, a horror that was in its way comparable to the Famine. What the Wind did to property, the Famine did to life. More people were made homeless during the night of the Big Wind than were evicted during the years 1850-1880. It straddled Ireland and England, did great damage to parts of Scotland, the northeast and Midlands of England, and the coast of Wales. It crossed the North Sea to Denmark, then dominated the eastern Baltic for several days before dissipating. The storm generated a mass of lore. Stories by the millions circulated. Why did it cast such a spell? The answer is probably fear and people's sense of helplessness in the face of it. Even though it was common experience, the storm was essentially a personal affair. It had a life in the hearts of the men and women who experienced it, in the detail of personal experience. The storm came in the night, climaxing in its darkest hours, and totally without warning. There was a profusion of weird wind effects. The losses were not only measured in pounds, shillings and pence, but in the personal tragedies of homelessness, lost limbs and deaths. Effects were subtle and delayed. The full impact was registered in the spring when people went to market. The towns looked patched and the fields were overgrown with wheat and oats and mongrel crops. A great source for historians is newspapers. In 1839 some 83 newspapers were being published in Ireland, seventeen of them in Dublin. While Ireland was viewed from a range of political perspectives, it was covered from a high and relatively narrow social base. All the papers grieved over the condition of the country, but few took the trouble to send out correspondents. Editors depended on letters from subscribers, borrowed copy and lurid travelers' tales. From Sunday night on, horrendous reports flooded in the newspaper offices. But within a fortnight the disaster disappeared from the newspapers. Memories of the Big Wind were rekindled in 1909 when the Old Age Pension was initiated. Everyone aged seventy and over was entitled to a weekly pension. How do you prove your age if there are no birth records? If you could remember the Big Wind, or make a good show of remembering, you were eligible for the pension. One reason the storm was so memorable was the extraordinary sound of the wind. What else happened because of the Big Wind? Building standards changed. Thatching was pegged. Houses were placed with the gable to the west. Implementation of the Poor Law was hastened by the need for disaster relief. Historians have mostly ignored the Big Wind. It had no social origins, few social consequences and it did not topple a government. No one could use it as a political weapon as they did with the Famine. Reprinted with permission from The Celtic Knot Vol.1, No.1 February 1994 -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

The County Armagh website at Ireland Genealogy Projects has been updated. The following civil parish webpages have been added and/or updated: Armagh, Ballymore, Ballymyre, Confeacle, Creggan, Derrynoose, Jonesborough, Killyman, Tartaraghan. The following town(land) pages have been added and/or updated: Aghanore, Allistragh, Annahagh, Aughnacloy, Ballygassoon, Ballymackilmurry, Cabragh, Carganamuck, Carrickaloughran, Drumcarn, Drumsill, Grange Blundel, Grangemore, Killylyn, Shantally, Breagh, Portadown Town, Derryhirk, Knockaconey, Lisdonwilly, Moneycree, Mullynure, Teeraw, Tirgarve, Tullyard, Tullygarran, Tullygarran, Tullygoonigan, Annaclare, Ballybrannan, Drumman Beg & More, Drumogher, Kilmachugh, Salters Grange, Annacrampt, Ballknick, Tiregerty, Drumart, Greenan, Carricktroddan, Ardrea, Lurgan Town, Crossdall, Carrive The following sections have also been updated: Surnames, Records, Land Divisions. You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ If you have any suggestions, additions or corrections for the website, email me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

My gg grandfather, John Stock married Bridget Quinn of Albion Tp. at the Gore Mission in 1844. I believe Bridget to be the daughter of Laughlin Quinn and Ellen Moore, immigrants from Co. Offaly, Ireland. I have no proof. John's older brother Edward married Harriet O'Hara, daughter of James and Catherine O'Hara of Co. Antrim, Ireland, in 1836 at St. Paul's, Toronto. John Quinn, son of Laughlin and Ellen, married Jean O'Hara at Gore Mission in 1847. Is there a list member who might know if there is a relationship between Jean O'Hara, and James/Catherine/Harriet? I would appreciate any response. Mr. Rene Stock Saskatoon SK Email: rene@stockfamily.ca

1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added 2000 more records to the Index for the 1851 Census for Liverpool Irish born people. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

The IGW County Tipperary website has been updated. The following civil parish webpages have either been added or updated: Cullen, Glenbane, Clonbeg and Dolla. The following town(land) pages have either been added or updated: Addane, Ballycarn, Barnagore, Boherlody, Cooneen, Cooneen South, Coumnagillagh, Curraghleigh, Curreeny Commons, Clonmore, Cullen, Glenbane, Tipperary, Cordangan, Holycross, Nenagh, Cashel, Mullinhone, Newport, Ballintogher, Foilnamuck, Glenduff, Grallagh, Kerane, Kilnashannally, Kilriffet, Knockmeale, Lisgarriff, Lisgarriff East & West, Pollanorman, Tooreen, Traverston, Turtulla, Windygap, Ballinulty, Ballybrunoge, Boherduff, Cloonmanagh, Fortyacres, Garryheakin, Gortakilleen, Gortnabarnan, Illaunmeen, Longstone, Milltown, Monearmore, Rathduff, Rathcabban, The Pike, Cappaghrattin Other items added this month include new civil parish maps with townlands deliniated, Hearth Money Rolls for Iffa and Offa baronies, new Griffith Valuations, and new surname links. You can find this website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm If you have suggestions, corrections and additions for this website, please write me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

McCutcheon Ontario and Dublin Ireland

Sorry this is a couple of days late, I've been enjoying the warm sun in Mexico for the past week. Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. This is from the Irish Heritage Newsletter, thanks to George Steeler for keeping this service up year after year. St. Stephen's Day in Ireland December 26 St. Stephen's Day honors the first Christian martyr, stoned to death shortly after the Crucifixion. St. Stephen's Day is a national holiday in Ireland, but the celebrations have little connection to the Saint. In Ireland, St. Stephen's Day is the day for "Hunting the Wren" or "Going on the Wren." Originally, groups of small boys would hunt for a wren, and then chase the bird until they either caught it or it died from exhaustion. The dead bird was tied to the top of a pole or holly bush, which was decorated with ribbons or colored paper. Early in the morning of St. Stephen's Day, the wren was carried from house to house by the boys, who wore straw masks or blackened their faces with burnt cork, and dressed in old clothes (often women's dresses.) At each house, the boys sing the Wren Boys' song. There are many versions and variations of this song, including the following: The wren, the wren, the king of all birds, On St. Stephen's Day was caught in the furze, Although he is little, his family is great, I pray you, good landlady, give us a treat. My box would speak, if it had but a tongue, And two or three shillings, would do it not wrong, Sing holly, sing ivy--sing ivy, sing holly, A drop just to drink, it would drown melancholy. And if you draw it of the best, I hope in heaven your soul will rest; But if you draw it of the small, It won't agree with these wren boys at all. Sometimes those who gave money were given a feather from the wren for good luck. The money collected by the Wren Boys was used to hold a dance for the whole village. There are different legends about the origin of this custom. One is that St. Stephen, hiding from his enemies in a bush, was betrayed by a chattering wren. The wren, like St. Stephen, should be hunted down and stoned to death. Another legend holds that during the Viking raids of the 700's, Irish soldiers were betrayed by a wren as they were sneaking up on a Viking camp in the dead of night. A wren began to eat breadcrumbs left on the head of a drum, and the rat-a-tat-tat of its beak woke the drummer, who sounded the alarm and woke the camp, leading to the defeat of the Irish soldiers and the continuing persecution of the wren. The pursuit and capture of the wren is also related to the pagan custom of sacrificing a sacred symbol at year's end. In contrast to the legends of the wren as betrayer, the wren has also been revered in Ireland as the "king of the birds." An Irish folktale tells of a contest held among birds to see which could fly the highest and should be accorded this title. The eagle soared higher than any other bird, but lost the contest when a clever wren, who had been hiding on the back of the eagle, flew off the eagle and soared higher in the sky. The custom of going on the wren fell into disfavor around the turn of the century, and died out completely in most parts of Ireland, but has been revived throughout much of the country. Wrens are no longer killed-- an artificial wren may be used, or a real wren may be carried about in a cage.The "Wren Boys" now include girls, and adults often accompany the young people. Folk costumes and traditional music and dancing are often part of going on the wren, and the money collected is often used for community or school projects. For more information: "Christmas in Ireland," a book produced by the World Book Encyclopedia (Chicago, 1985; LCCN 85-51171) includes more information in St. Stephen's Day in Ireland, including several illustrations. "The Christmas Revels Songbooks," compiled by Nancy and John Langstaff, Boston: David R. Godine, 1985; LCCN 85-70140) includes words and music for the Wren Boys Song. The same version of the song can be heard on "The Christmas Revels" compact disc, Revels Records, 1988, CD 1078. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

It's that time of year again when we reflect on the past & look forward to another new year. We would like to take this time to wish all our friends a very Merry Xmas & a safe & Happy Holiday Season. Also big thanks to everyone who helped us locate new family members in Ireland. It has been quite the adventure . It has been so nice being able to finally put names to faces.We look forward to emails & letters. And we will be able to catch up on a past that has been lost for so long. It is wonderful to know we have made a connection with family we didn't know but we also made many new friends along the way from all corners of the globe.. Without your help we couldn't have done it. Please keep in touch. All the Best in 2006 June, Kent & Family Thunder Bay,Ontario Canada June & Kent Warren Braden Clumbers Reg'd Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada bradenclumbers@hotmail.com

Here is one often overlooked technique to find out where in Ireland when the records only say Ireland. Check all the records of the ancestor's siblings and their children. Your ancestor's siblings probably were born in the same Irish town as your ancestor. If one sibling had a son who got married in the bride's parish, the town clerk or parish priest there might have written "Father's birthplace: " or "ex loco" and the exact town. This needs to be verified but if accurate is very valuable. Tom Alciere webmaster@SurnamesByTown.com