Hi Marg: Here is the Alexander SMITH family on the 1861 census: Nottawasaga, Page 48, Line 11, SMITH, Alex'r/Farmer/b. Scotland/CE/age 26/Married Mary/b. Canada West/CS/age 26/Married Isabella/b. CW/CS/age 3 Robert/b.CW/CS/age 2 SIMPSON, Thomas/b. England/CE/age 25/Single/Non-Family This is the other Alexander SMITH I mentioned: 1891 census, Collingwood, B2, Page 17, Line 2, SMITH, Christina/age 54/Widow/b. Ontario, father b. Scotland, mother b. Scotland/CP Alexander/age 27/Son/Single/b. Ont., father Scotland, mother Ontario/CP Jessie/age 22/Daughter/b. Ont., Scotland, Ontario/CP/School Teacher also in the household, MORRISON, Annie, age 17 McCAFFREY, Christina, age 19 SING, Edith, age 23 I believe this is the same family on the 1881 census: Alutina SMITH W Female Scottish 40 Ontario Presbyterian Alex SMITH Male Scottish 18 Ontario Clerk Presbyterian Sydney SMITH Male Scottish 16 Ontario School Presbyterian Jenie SMITH Female Scottish 12 Ontario School Presbyterian Alex GILLESPIE W Male Scottish 89 Scotland Presbyterian Source Information: Census Place Collingwood, Simcoe North, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375887 NA Film Number C-13251 District 139 Sub-district C Division 2 Page Number 66 Household Number 313 Good luck with your search. Regards, Lynne Kemp. P.S. Thanks again, Paul for your kind remarks :) > My grandfather is not born for either the 1861 or 1881 census, do you have > the rest of the family information for the two Alexander Smith families > mentioned.> > Thanks for all the help, but as usual, my grandfather remains a mystery man.> > Marg _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006