Listers, Time for an update on the Carter family query. If you remember, my original questions concerned William Carter and Jennie Taylor, residents of Penetanguishene for 40 years and, in particular, the search for William's parents, William and Sarah. They were alleged to have been a Black family on the 1901 census. Before writing to the list, I try to make sure I have my 'homework' done. As mentioned earlier in my query, we had copies for the original census returns from 1881 to 1911 for this family but thanks to those who sent them again. I was not aware of the Black community in London and will certainly look into this. John Brown is, of course, a prominent name in the abolitionist movement. Expanding the search to the Middlesex list was next on my to-do list. I was in Dresden just last week and visited the Josiah Henson (Uncle Tom) settlement at Dawn. Most of the families who lived there are well documented. I highly recommend visiting it - a bit off the usual 401 path but worth the trip. Raleigh Township in Kent County is where my ancestors settled when they came from England and Ireland in the early 1800s. In fact, the Irish contingent lived in Charing Cross and Buxton, next door to the Black settlement, so I am familiar with that area. It became a bit of a challenge when researching the Brown family (my maiden name) as the 'brown' Browns and the 'white' Browns used the same names for their children. Very few records, other than census returns, mention race but they do name names. We will contact the museums and historical societies in that area and post a query to the Kent list. There is no 1830 census for Simcoe County. The 1871 census could be a help and we are searching through it again. His mother's name is Sarah at his birth in 1846 but that may not be the name of the woman with whom his father is living in 1871. Wives come and go but fathers' names remain the same - if he is alive in 1871. Lots of William Carters out there. Problems, problems! I am familiar with the Oro Settlement and again, the people who received the original grants are documented. Those of you who have read my Black History month stories of the Davenports of Simcoe County will know he was among the original settlers in Oro and later in Hillsdale. Grey Roots Museum is one of my favourite places in Simcoe County and I visit it often as my daughter and her family live in OS. They do indeed have a great display of Black history material and artifacts and..... a fabulous research area! The collections manager is the former curator/manager of the Penetang Museum and you should see what she has done there! Of all the places where it was suggested I look, this area is the closest Black settlement area to Sunnidale where William Carter met Jennie Taylor. I have been playing the Devil's Advocate on this search but I think there is a good possibility that a very clever enumerator has made an astute observation and the family does indeed have Black origins, albeit many generations back in time. Proof would be very nice indeed but every person in one's ancestry is worthy of our attention and respect, no matter what their origins. Just being able to continue the line back in time would be very nice. Thanks to all who responded. Pam