Where can I find the 1831 & 1848 censuses for Oro? My gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather Joseph Harrington was described in the 1861 West Gwillimbury census as "mullatto", & so were all his children, but he was dead by 1871 so I have no further information. According to the 1861 census, he was born about 1807 in Upper Canada, but that's all I know. His wife was from Quebec. By 1871 only his one son was described on the census as "African"; the rest of his children weren't listed as anything other than white (most listed their origins/birthplaces the same as their spouses'). The same son listed his birthplace as Lloydtown, Ontario on a marriage register. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nieva" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family > Just a quick note, my Thompson family was one of the original families > from > Oro > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul and Ruth > Robins > Sent: July-27-09 11:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family > > ORO, in Spanish, means GOLD . I am told. > > The last, black family, in ORO , was living on the Second Concession, of > ORO, just above what is now a GOLF COURSE, IN THE LATE MONTHS OF 1940. > > I REMEMBER WELL, my Mother driving us past the Family Home, and seeing the > old couple, sitting on the front steps, of the house. No porch. It was my > first exposure to `` people of colour `` . We had just previously moved to > Oro, from Coldwater, Ontario ( in Medonte, about 20 miles, as the crow > flies. ) My Mother, a Public School Teacher, was steeped in History. > > Paul Robins > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of catherine > campbell > Sent: July-26-09 10:18 PM > To: simcoe rootsweb > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family > > > I was just wondering - if William Carter's parents, William and Jenny, > were > married in Angus in 1872, born in Canada, could THEIR parents have been > part > of the black community in nearby Oro? In 1819 the government sponsored a > black settlement in Oro, along Wilberforce Street, one concession east of > the Penetanguishene road and offered lots to the "Men of Color" who had > served in the War of 1812. The census of 1831 show a black population of > 97 > in 1831 and 64 in 1848, with a peak of 101 in 1860-61, but by 1901 the > numbers were down to about 1831. Many of the black settlers sold their > land > and moved elsewhere. "Some moved into the local towns such as Barrie and > Collingwood; others went to the southern parts of the province or returned > to the United States" Since Angus, where William and Jenny were married > in > 1872, is just a few miles from the (then) Oro, they and their parents > could > well have been among the first black settlers in Oro (the name Oro, by the > way, comes from ! > the Rio del Oro, a river and settlement in the north-west coast of Africa. > It was reportedly given this name, due to the intent to set apart this > township, or a part of it, as a colony for men of colour). Also, the > colony > was beside the Penetanguishene Road, which went directly to > Penetanguishene, > so a logical place to move to. > > > > It might be worth checking out the census for Oro in the 1830s and on for > the names Carter and Taylor to see if this is a possible connection. (I > have > the book "the Story of Oro", since my own ancestors settled in Oro in 1831 > from Ireland.) Apparently the African Episcopal Church, erected in 1849 > and > renovated one hundred years later, "still stands as a memorial to an > episode > in the early settlement and history of Upper Canada". "The Oro Township > community is unique in that it was the only black settlement sponsored by > the government in Ontario." > > > > Catherine > > > > >> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:28:24 -0400 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family >> >> All Carter researchers - sharpen your pencils and open your databases. >> I have a puzzle for you. I am addressing the list with this problem as >> it contains an element that gave me and my colleague a bit of a >> surprise last week. We were approached for assistance in locating the >> ancestors of a visitor who claimed a family member was a Black man >> from London, Ontario who had lived in Penetanguishene. As evidence he >> produced a copy of the 1901 census that clearly shows the record was >> altered to read "B'" and the origin was entered as African. A Black >> man living on the main street in Penetanguisehene for 40 years (late >> 1800s to 1933) and nobody had ever heard of this? Not even local > historians? >> Knowing the inaccuracy of census returns, we were not inclined to >> believe this one. It is exceedingly difficult to prove the census was >> wrong in this case, unless we can locate his ancestors. Please take a >> look at the following and perhaps it will twig a memory or an idea. >> The Sunnidale in the report is the town near Angus, Creemore and >> Staynor - sort of in the middle. If you have questions or need >> clarification, please email the list or if the topic gets too boring, > email me off list. >> Note: all material is sourced. Principal sources are the 1871 to 1911 >> census returns, OVS registrations and local records. >> >> I am sure formatting will make for difficult reading and I apologize >> in advance. >> >> 1. *William CARTER* was born on 8 November 1846 in London, Middlesex >> County, Ontario. In 1901 he was a millwright at the Davidson Lumber >> Mill in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. In 1933 he was a >> retired milling hand. His ethnic origin was English. William died on >> 13 March >> 1933 at the age of 86 in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario.^1 >> <#ENDNOTE_1> He was buried on 15 March 1933 in Presbyterian Cemetery, >> Penetanguishene, Ontario. Both his parents were born in Ontario. >> William CARTER and Ann Jane (Jennie) TAYLOR^2 <#ENDNOTE_2> were >> married on 12 December 1872 in Angus, Essa Township, Simcoe County, >> Ontario.^3 <#ENDNOTE_3> The Rev. J. W. Totten officiated at the ceremony. > W. >> Brocher (?) was the only witness. They lived at 150 Main Street West >> in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. They were residents of >> Penetanguishene for 40 years prior to William's death (from 1893). >> *Ann Jane (Jennie) TAYLOR*, daughter of Thomas TAYLOR and Elizabeth >> MCGILVRAY, was born about 1855 in Creemore, Ontario. She died on 18 >> April 1937 at the age of 82 in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. >> Her ethnic origin was Scottish. She was buried in Presbyterian >> Cemetery, Penetanguishene, Ontario. Both her parents were born in >> Ontario. >> >> William CARTER and Ann Jane TAYLOR had the following children: >> >> 2 i. *Franklin (Frank) CARTER* was born about 1876 in Ontario. >> >> +3 ii. *Ellen/Ella E. CARTER.* >> >> 4 iii. *Jasper CARTER* was born in October 1879 in Sunnidale, Simcoe >> County, Ontario.^4 <#ENDNOTE_4> In 1900 he was a clerk in >> Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. He lived at the 5th >> Concession, Park lot 5 in Simcoe County, Ontario in 1900. Jasper died >> of La grippe on 1 December 1900 at the age of 21 in Penetanguishene, >> Simcoe County, Ontario. He was buried in Presbyterian Cemetery, >> Penetanguishene, Ontario. >> >> +5 iv. *William Thomas CARTER.* >> >> 6 v. *Norman CARTER* was born in January 1888 in >> Ontario.^5 <#ENDNOTE_5> He lived in Sault-Ste-Marie, Algoma District, >> Ontario in 1911. >> >> >> Have fun! >> >> Pam >> >> >> >> >> ***************** >> Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: >> http://tr.im/hBAy >> >> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. 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