The earliest surviving Oro census is 1861., but there are Return of Settlers records for 1831 and 1836. These list the head of household and were rather like a census. I have transcribed both and Joseph Harrington doesn't appear in either. There are a number listed as coloured in 1836 so they weren't left out because of that. Perhaps your family was missed or they were in a nearby in township. I know we had family missed in the 1861 and 1881 census'. The assessment records at the Simcoe County Archives may have them listed. I found them really useful. Marjorie Cameron McQuay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Andrews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:10 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] 1831, 1848 Oro censuses? > Where can I find the 1831 & 1848 censuses for Oro? My > gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather Joseph Harrington was described in the 1861 > West Gwillimbury census as "mullatto", & so were all his children, but he > was dead by 1871 so I have no further information. According to the 1861 > census, he was born about 1807 in Upper Canada, but that's all I know. > His wife was from Quebec. By 1871 only his one son was described on the > census as "African"; the rest of his children weren't listed as anything > other than white (most listed their origins/birthplaces the same as their > spouses'). The same son listed his birthplace as Lloydtown, Ontario on a > marriage register. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nieva" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family > > >> Just a quick note, my Thompson family was one of the original families >> from >> Oro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul and Ruth >> Robins >> Sent: July-27-09 11:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family >> >> ORO, in Spanish, means GOLD . I am told. >> >> The last, black family, in ORO , was living on the Second Concession, of >> ORO, just above what is now a GOLF COURSE, IN THE LATE MONTHS OF 1940. >> >> I REMEMBER WELL, my Mother driving us past the Family Home, and seeing >> the >> old couple, sitting on the front steps, of the house. No porch. It was my >> first exposure to `` people of colour `` . We had just previously moved >> to >> Oro, from Coldwater, Ontario ( in Medonte, about 20 miles, as the crow >> flies. ) My Mother, a Public School Teacher, was steeped in History. >> >> Paul Robins >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of catherine >> campbell >> Sent: July-26-09 10:18 PM >> To: simcoe rootsweb >> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family >> >> >> I was just wondering - if William Carter's parents, William and Jenny, >> were >> married in Angus in 1872, born in Canada, could THEIR parents have been >> part >> of the black community in nearby Oro? In 1819 the government sponsored a >> black settlement in Oro, along Wilberforce Street, one concession east of >> the Penetanguishene road and offered lots to the "Men of Color" who had >> served in the War of 1812. The census of 1831 show a black population of >> 97 >> in 1831 and 64 in 1848, with a peak of 101 in 1860-61, but by 1901 the >> numbers were down to about 1831. Many of the black settlers sold their >> land >> and moved elsewhere. "Some moved into the local towns such as Barrie and >> Collingwood; others went to the southern parts of the province or >> returned >> to the United States" Since Angus, where William and Jenny were married >> in >> 1872, is just a few miles from the (then) Oro, they and their parents >> could >> well have been among the first black settlers in Oro (the name Oro, by >> the >> way, comes from ! >> the Rio del Oro, a river and settlement in the north-west coast of >> Africa. >> It was reportedly given this name, due to the intent to set apart this >> township, or a part of it, as a colony for men of colour). Also, the >> colony >> was beside the Penetanguishene Road, which went directly to >> Penetanguishene, >> so a logical place to move to. >> >> >> >> It might be worth checking out the census for Oro in the 1830s and on for >> the names Carter and Taylor to see if this is a possible connection. (I >> have >> the book "the Story of Oro", since my own ancestors settled in Oro in >> 1831 >> from Ireland.) Apparently the African Episcopal Church, erected in 1849 >> and >> renovated one hundred years later, "still stands as a memorial to an >> episode >> in the early settlement and history of Upper Canada". "The Oro Township >> community is unique in that it was the only black settlement sponsored by >> the government in Ontario." >> >> >> >> Catherine >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:28:24 -0400 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] CARTER family >>> >>> All Carter researchers - sharpen your pencils and open your databases. >>> I have a puzzle for you. I am addressing the list with this problem as >>> it contains an element that gave me and my colleague a bit of a >>> surprise last week. We were approached for assistance in locating the >>> ancestors of a visitor who claimed a family member was a Black man >>> from London, Ontario who had lived in Penetanguishene. As evidence he >>> produced a copy of the 1901 census that clearly shows the record was >>> altered to read "B'" and the origin was entered as African. A Black >>> man living on the main street in Penetanguisehene for 40 years (late >>> 1800s to 1933) and nobody had ever heard of this? Not even local >> historians? >>> Knowing the inaccuracy of census returns, we were not inclined to >>> believe this one. It is exceedingly difficult to prove the census was >>> wrong in this case, unless we can locate his ancestors. Please take a >>> look at the following and perhaps it will twig a memory or an idea. >>> The Sunnidale in the report is the town near Angus, Creemore and >>> Staynor - sort of in the middle. If you have questions or need >>> clarification, please email the list or if the topic gets too boring, >> email me off list. >>> Note: all material is sourced. Principal sources are the 1871 to 1911 >>> census returns, OVS registrations and local records. >>> >>> I am sure formatting will make for difficult reading and I apologize >>> in advance. >>> >>> 1. *William CARTER* was born on 8 November 1846 in London, Middlesex >>> County, Ontario. In 1901 he was a millwright at the Davidson Lumber >>> Mill in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. In 1933 he was a >>> retired milling hand. His ethnic origin was English. William died on >>> 13 March >>> 1933 at the age of 86 in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario.^1 >>> <#ENDNOTE_1> He was buried on 15 March 1933 in Presbyterian Cemetery, >>> Penetanguishene, Ontario. Both his parents were born in Ontario. >>> William CARTER and Ann Jane (Jennie) TAYLOR^2 <#ENDNOTE_2> were >>> married on 12 December 1872 in Angus, Essa Township, Simcoe County, >>> Ontario.^3 <#ENDNOTE_3> The Rev. J. W. Totten officiated at the >>> ceremony. >> W. >>> Brocher (?) was the only witness. They lived at 150 Main Street West >>> in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. They were residents of >>> Penetanguishene for 40 years prior to William's death (from 1893). >>> *Ann Jane (Jennie) TAYLOR*, daughter of Thomas TAYLOR and Elizabeth >>> MCGILVRAY, was born about 1855 in Creemore, Ontario. She died on 18 >>> April 1937 at the age of 82 in Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. >>> Her ethnic origin was Scottish. She was buried in Presbyterian >>> Cemetery, Penetanguishene, Ontario. Both her parents were born in >>> Ontario. >>> >>> William CARTER and Ann Jane TAYLOR had the following children: >>> >>> 2 i. *Franklin (Frank) CARTER* was born about 1876 in Ontario. >>> >>> +3 ii. *Ellen/Ella E. CARTER.* >>> >>> 4 iii. *Jasper CARTER* was born in October 1879 in Sunnidale, Simcoe >>> County, Ontario.^4 <#ENDNOTE_4> In 1900 he was a clerk in >>> Penetanguishene, Simcoe County, Ontario. He lived at the 5th >>> Concession, Park lot 5 in Simcoe County, Ontario in 1900. Jasper died >>> of La grippe on 1 December 1900 at the age of 21 in Penetanguishene, >>> Simcoe County, Ontario. He was buried in Presbyterian Cemetery, >>> Penetanguishene, Ontario. >>> >>> +5 iv. *William Thomas CARTER.* >>> >>> 6 v. *Norman CARTER* was born in January 1888 in >>> Ontario.^5 <#ENDNOTE_5> He lived in Sault-Ste-Marie, Algoma District, >>> Ontario in 1911. >>> >>> >>> Have fun! >>> >>> Pam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ***************** >>> Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: >>> http://tr.im/hBAy >>> >>> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Attention all humans. We are your photos. 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