Dear Listers, I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they were from Donegal, Ireland. While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so this is something else I would like to investigate. I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and further ancestoral information and their descendants. Can you please help me with my search? Many thanks, Patricia Johnson Bailey Cloverdale, B. C.
I have found that for some of my Irish ancestors whose origins before coming to Ireland were England, Scotland or Wales. They gave their ancestry as being from the original country rather than Ireland, which is where they lived prior to coming to Canada. There was often strong anti-Irish sentiment in those early days and I think some folks felt it was wiser to cite their distant ancestral origin, rather than admitting they had come from Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:33 pm Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey To: Administrator <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal > GGGrandfather,Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia > (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they > were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father > always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information > stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families > to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was > born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my > Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of > 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of > Scottishdescent - my father always stated to us that his > ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their > BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Patricia Your Bailey family may have been in Ireland for two of three generations before coming to Canada. Before that they may well have been from Scotland. There was a large movement of Protestant Scots to the north of Ireland during the early 18th century. Are you sure you were looking at the 1841 census for Orillia? There may have been attempts to have a census in Canada in 1841 but they were few and far between. The Free Church (FC)--a Presbyterian group--did not come into existence in Scotland or Ireland or Canada until 1843. The 1851 census would be the more likely one. Hope this helps /cheers Pat Jeffs On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Patricia A. M. Johnson <patrace@telus.net>wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that > a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle > in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thank you Pat for your info. I know that there was a great influx of Scots in the 1600s, sent to Ireland, by the British forming "Donegal". I also understand that some of the early Canadian settlers to U Canada were from this Irish group and known as the "Peter Robinson" settlers - mine might have come in this group as I see articles on Robert Bailey settling in Orillia, in the groups of the first 6 families. I found the 1841 census on ancestry.com where believe I saw these entries for my Baileys - will check again at the library in the next few days. In the meanwhile I am also looking for descendants - do you know any Baileys as my grandfather came from a family of 7 boys, I understand. I believe they all stayed in Ontario with the exception of my grandfather. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Jeffs" <pat.jeffs@dsl.pipex.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > Patricia > > Your Bailey family may have been in Ireland for two of three generations > before coming to Canada. Before that they may well have been from Scotland. > There was a large movement of Protestant Scots to the north of Ireland > during the early 18th century. > > Are you sure you were looking at the 1841 census for Orillia? There may have > been attempts to have a census in Canada in 1841 but they were few and far > between. The Free Church (FC)--a Presbyterian group--did not come into > existence in Scotland or Ireland or Canada until 1843. The 1851 census would > be the more likely one. > > Hope this helps > > /cheers > > Pat Jeffs > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Patricia A. M. Johnson <patrace@telus.net>wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that > > a > > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle > > in > > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > > > Can you please help me with my search? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > > Cloverdale, B. C. > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The 1861 Canada Census for Simcoe County, Orillia shows the following information: BAILEY " Robert - age 53, born Ireland, Occ: carpenter, rel: FC >Ann - age 51, born Ireland >William - age 21, born UC >James - age 17, born UC >Samuel - age 13, born UC Patricia, your Cloverdale library has an excellent genealogy section complete with microfiche, old maps and books of early inhabitants all across Canada and parts of the USA. There is also a genealogy group that meets there once a month which you might find very helpful. Cheers! Doreen ============== > From: patrace@telus.net > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:35:14 -0700 > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Pat Your Baileys are buried at St. Andrew's St. James' Cemetery in Orillia. Heather Bertram Orillia -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia A. M. Johnson Sent: August 2, 2010 12:35 AM To: Administrator Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Dear Listers, I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they were from Donegal, Ireland. While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so this is something else I would like to investigate. I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and further ancestoral information and their descendants. Can you please help me with my search? Many thanks, Patricia Johnson Bailey Cloverdale, B. C. ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Heather, Thank you and how do you know this? Patricia -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Heather Bertram Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:05 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Hi Pat Your Baileys are buried at St. Andrew's St. James' Cemetery in Orillia. Heather Bertram Orillia -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia A. M. Johnson Sent: August 2, 2010 12:35 AM To: Administrator Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Dear Listers, I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they were from Donegal, Ireland. While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so this is something else I would like to investigate. I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and further ancestoral information and their descendants. Can you please help me with my search? Many thanks, Patricia Johnson Bailey Cloverdale, B. C. ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi, I did some quick searches and this is what I have found (and not found): Looks like this is the marriage registration of one of the daughters (which provides a maiden name): http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/simcoe58.htm William PEARD, 22, Ireland, Orillia, s/o John PEARD & Hellen SUTTON, married Martha BAILEY, 22, Orillia, same, d/o Robert BAILEY & Anne LINTON (SINTON), witn; John BAILEY of Orillia. 4 Oct, 1858. Here is their gravestone: http://www.gravemarkers.ca/ontario/centont/simcoe/orillia/standrew/blocka/ba iley5.jpg Based on this marriage record, it looks like they came before 1838. Found this marriage registration for a son on ancestry: Name: John Bailey Age: 23 Birth Place: Orillia Spouse Name: Dunn, Catharine Spouse Age: 20 Spouse Birth Place: Orillia Marriage Date: 7 Mar 1862 Spouse Father Name: Thomas Dunn Spouse Mother Name: Margaret Jamieson Microfilm Roll: 1030064 Father Name: Robert Bailey Mother Name: Ann Linton Spouse residence: Orillia Residence: Orillia County: Simcoe Marriage Place: Orillia St James Church seems to have some information on Robert as a patron in 1841-49 : http://www.stjamesorillia.com/history.html A search of the Simcoe Settlers Database (http://www.simcoebogs.com/database/settlersdata_list.php) shows a Robert Bailey dying in 1885 and Ann (nee Linton) on May 4, 1888. I did a quick look for death registrations but have not found any... A pic of their stone is here: http://www.gravemarkers.ca/ontario/centont/simcoe/orillia/standrew/blockh/ba iley2.jpg, unfortunately nothing on their stone regarding where they were from... There is another Ann Bailey ( don't think this is your Ann though) in the Settlers Database who died May 16, 1887 and this is her death record from: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onvsr/death/deathindex_ba-bd_new.htm: BAILEY, Ann, f, May 16, 1887, 81 years, Belfast Ireland, cause - old age, infm - J.T. Bailey, Orillia (Simcoe Co.) 015847-87 I looked at the Orillia newspaper index for a Bailey obit (or marriage record etc): http://news.ourontario.ca/orillia/search.asp but the only hit I got was J.T Bailey (referenced in the "other" Ann Bailey above) In the 1891 Canadian Census's people were asked for their immigration year and the country of birth for their mother and father. If you have the names of any children before Martha it might be possible to search for this person in the census (or BMD records) to see if any info can be found that can point to where the family came from. Martha noted that both her parents were from Ireland in the 1891 census.. Sorry not much help but maybe the maiden name of Ann may help if you did not know if previously. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia A. M. Johnson Sent: August-02-10 12:35 AM To: Administrator Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Dear Listers, I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they were from Donegal, Ireland.
Hello Patricia, Here is their gravestone in St Andrews St James. Gary J49-6 In Memory Of/ Robert Bailey/ Born 1806. Died 1885./ And His Wife/ Ann Linton/ Born 1808./ Died May 4. 1888./-/ BAILEY/ F.S. [Father] [Mother] Quoting "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net>: > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello Gary, Thank you so very much for this precious information - now I know why my father was named "Linton", which he thought was a mistake made at his birth by the recording priest (the Catholic Church was the only place at that time in 1901, to record births), in St. Boniface, Manitoba, for "Milton" as his father and grandfather had been named. Do you have the contact info for the cemetery as I would like to contact the office to see if they would take photos for me of all my ancestors and email back to me. I have had this done here and in California. Do you happen to know how I may trace my GGgrandparent's arrival in Orillia, their marriage, their ancestors, etc., and if they were indeed from Donegal? Again many thanks for this precious information. Best wishes, Patricia Johnson BAiley -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of highfield-jane@comnet.ca Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:48 AM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Hello Patricia, Here is their gravestone in St Andrews St James. Gary J49-6 In Memory Of/ Robert Bailey/ Born 1806. Died 1885./ And His Wife/ Ann Linton/ Born 1808./ Died May 4. 1888./-/ BAILEY/ F.S. [Father] [Mother] Quoting "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net>: > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Patricia, The website for the cemetery is http://www.stastjcemetery.com/ However a picture of the Robert Bailey gravestone can be found under "Block H" on the StA/StJ part of the Gravemarker Gallery site. http://www.gravemarkers.ca/ontario/centont/simcoe/orillia/standrew/blockh/page0001.htm I'll contact you off list about your other questions. Gary Quoting "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net>: > > Hello Gary, > > Thank you so very much for this precious information - now I know why my > father was named "Linton", which he thought was a mistake made at his birth > by the recording priest (the Catholic Church was the only place at that time > in 1901, to record births), in St. Boniface, Manitoba, for "Milton" as his > father and grandfather had been named. > > Do you have the contact info for the cemetery as I would like to contact the > office to see if they would take photos for me of all my ancestors and email > back to me. I have had this done here and in California. > > Do you happen to know how I may trace my GGgrandparent's arrival in Orillia, > their marriage, their ancestors, etc., and if they were indeed from Donegal? > > Again many thanks for this precious information. > > Best wishes, > > Patricia Johnson BAiley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of > highfield-jane@comnet.ca > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:48 AM > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > > > Hello Patricia, > Here is their gravestone in St Andrews St James. > Gary > > J49-6 > In Memory Of/ Robert Bailey/ Born 1806. Died 1885./ And His Wife/ > Ann Linton/ Born 1808./ Died May 4. 1888./-/ BAILEY/ > F.S. [Father] [Mother] > > Quoting "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net>: > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, >> Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the >> time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in >> Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they >> were from Donegal, Ireland. >> >> While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that > a >> Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle > in >> Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in > Upper >> Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born > in >> Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at >> Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. >> >> On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish >> descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so >> this is something else I would like to investigate. >> >> I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and >> further ancestoral information and their descendants. >> >> Can you please help me with my search? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Patricia Johnson Bailey >> Cloverdale, B. C. >>
Hi Patricia: I thought that with the details from the gravestone it would be easier to find Robert Bailey and Ann Linton's death registration in Ontario.... but nothing was found. Perhaps their deaths were never registered with the Province. I even tried a search with only the dates given for Ann, but still nothing came up. Sorry, as that might have offered more info. Cheers! Doreen ========== > From: patrace@telus.net > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:46:12 -0700 > CC: jrober37@twcny.rr.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > > > Hello Gary, > <snip>
Info on a gravestone isn't always correct, as has turned out to be the case with one of our family. Someone compiled a family tree many years ago which turns out to have many errors, as we learned when more records both in Ontario and in Ireland became available. A man who actually died in 1859, as documented in the surrogate court records, has a tombstone which claims he died in 1875. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conlin" <conlin2004@hotmail.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > > Hi Patricia: > > > > I thought that with the details from the gravestone it would be easier to > find Robert Bailey and Ann Linton's death registration in Ontario.... but > nothing was found. Perhaps their deaths were never registered with the > Province. I even tried a search with only the dates given for Ann, but > still nothing came up. > > > > Sorry, as that might have offered more info. > > > > Cheers! > > Doreen > > ========== > > > > > >> From: patrace@telus.net >> To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:46:12 -0700 >> CC: jrober37@twcny.rr.com >> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey >> >> >> Hello Gary, >> <snip> > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >