Yes, the descriptions were varied and all over the map! On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Catt <gullake@primus.ca> wrote: > I researched 'what was New Jerusalem', and found several sites and one was > Wikipedia. > A bit beyond me! > > Catt > > On Sat 21/08/10 5:09 PM , Deborah Crawford deborahc8@gmail.com sent: > > Good day listers. I have come across a reference to what would appear to > > bea religious persuasion that I have never before heard of. It's from a > > baptismal record in 1941, a Catholic baptism for a fellow born in 1913, > > whowas converting from "New Jerusalem". I've googled and binged and > > searchedaround and can find vague references to this, but nothing > specific. I > > dobump into references from it as being an Australian practice. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I researched 'what was New Jerusalem', and found several sites and one was Wikipedia. A bit beyond me! Catt On Sat 21/08/10 5:09 PM , Deborah Crawford deborahc8@gmail.com sent: > Good day listers. I have come across a reference to what would appear to > bea religious persuasion that I have never before heard of. It's from a > baptismal record in 1941, a Catholic baptism for a fellow born in 1913, > whowas converting from "New Jerusalem". I've googled and binged and > searchedaround and can find vague references to this, but nothing specific. I > dobump into references from it as being an Australian practice.

Good day listers. I have come across a reference to what would appear to be a religious persuasion that I have never before heard of. It's from a baptismal record in 1941, a Catholic baptism for a fellow born in 1913, who was converting from "New Jerusalem". I've googled and binged and searched around and can find vague references to this, but nothing specific. I do bump into references from it as being an Australian practice. I just wondered if anyone has heard of this before in their research? This isn't a fellow in my family, but just someone I "met" while transcribing some information. I'm going to look into his background if I can to see if perhaps he was from Australia; then I will wonder how on earth he ended up in this neck of the woods. Anyway - just a curiosity for a Saturday afternoon. Hope all are doing well and enjoying the summer. Deborah

Thank heaven for volunteer indexers at Automated Genealogy and people like John Wright. This is how Samuel James Best is listed in THE 1911 census at Ancestry.ca: DOUNES, William DOUNES, Annie JAMES ANT I think it can be said now that Samuel James Best was indeed a Barnardo child. If you look closely at the page of the actual census return (Ontario, Simcoe East, Tiny, page 5) you will see that there is another child in the same household: Annie Powell, adopted daughter, born England in 1897, servant. In the next household, #38, is another child born in England in 1897 listed as "home boy". Good luck with his name! Three children in two neighbouring households........ two of whom are listed as adopted. I doubt this was a clerical error but more likely the way the person who replied to the census taker viewed the relationship between themselves and the children. Thanks for all your help, people! Much appreciated by me and the visitor who is yet to know about this. Pam

Francesco sounds Italian. McKinnon is obviously Irish. Lactose intolerance be hereditary but doesn't have to have anything to do with race. Generally though, only northern European people (such as English/Irish/Scottish/French etc.) continue to produce the enzyme to digest lactose (or something like that) into adulthood; most other people, esp in the southern hemisphere, cease to at about age 4. Maybe that includes Mediterranean people (& therefore Italians) as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catt" <gullake@primus.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Francesco or McKinnon of Stouffville, Ontario,Canada >I am wondering if there is French, Indian or Jewish blood in these families >to explain gluten allergies, or lactose > intolerance? > > I know there is Dutch, Black, Scotch, blood lines. Catt > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am wondering if there is French, Indian or Jewish blood in these families to explain gluten allergies, or lactose intolerance? I know there is Dutch, Black, Scotch, blood lines. Catt

Below is a link to a wonderful book about Vernardo Children As most of you know, a lot of my research on this list has been Frenc Penetanguishene families Bernardo homes had a benefactor George Albertus Cox who was one time mayor of Peterborough and owned HAzelbrae - donated in 1912 outright to Bernardo's - George was my 1st cousin three times removed - through my father Charles Colling who lived in Midland for many years http://books.google.ca/books?id=knJiAzudkRoC&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=hazelbrae+cox&source=bl&ots=f2zhAWJgxi&sig=6CO-BssyqF76EZ8ITdp8kLK8uqc&hl=en&ei=cLNuTPX3JILmnAf-ram-CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=hazelbrae%20cox&f=false ----- Original Message ----- From: "john thomas" <thomas.captnt@powergate.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children > Hi Pam, > > There is a website for a Barnardo group located in Peterborough ON. They > hold meetings once a month during the winter. The name of the home where > the > girls > were sent is called Hazelbrae, no longer standing, but the lady in charge > of > the meetings is Ivy, she may be able to > help. > > 'barnardohazelbraegroup.com' > > Sherry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> > To: "Simcoe Mailing List" <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:39 PM > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children > > > >> Pam >> Penetang >> >> >> >> >> ***************** >> Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy >> >> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3080 - Release Date: 08/18/10 > 14:35:00 > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most Home children were never formally adopted, & rarely described as such in records...people were not looking for additional children or new family members when they took in a Home child, they were looking for cheap labour. This must have been a very rare exception, or a clerical error on the part of the census-taker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wright" <john.laurie.wright@sympatico.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] BEST, Samuel James - Barnardo child? > PAM > > The following is from the 1911 Census, Simcoe East, 30 Tiny, p.5 > > 28 37 Downer William Lot 11 Con 11 M Head M Feb 1856 55 Ontario Ireland > Anglican Farmer > 29 37 Downer Annie F Wife M Sep 1856 55 Ont English Anglican 30 37 Best > James M Adopted Son S Feb 1897 14 Ireland 1909 Ireland Anglican Labourer > > The emigration date is fairly close for the Barnardo boy and the birth > date > matches that in the attestation papers for the soldier. > > John Wright > Barrie, Ontario > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Tessier > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:54 AM > To: Simcoe Mailing List > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] BEST, Samuel James - Barnardo child? > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

PAM The following is from the 1911 Census, Simcoe East, 30 Tiny, p.5 28 37 Downer William Lot 11 Con 11 M Head M Feb 1856 55 Ontario Ireland Anglican Farmer 29 37 Downer Annie F Wife M Sep 1856 55 Ont English Anglican 30 37 Best James M Adopted Son S Feb 1897 14 Ireland 1909 Ireland Anglican Labourer The emigration date is fairly close for the Barnardo boy and the birth date matches that in the attestation papers for the soldier. John Wright Barrie, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Tessier Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:54 AM To: Simcoe Mailing List Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] BEST, Samuel James - Barnardo child?

Here is further information regarding the Home Child Quilt. I have also forwarded this information to the Collingwood Library. There is also a book that is available if individuals would like to order through Gail, but keeping this information informative rather than capitalistic, please contact Gail directly for further infomation. To keep the Spirit of 2010 alive, I am hoping that you will want to arrange a display in your area. Quilt Displays already arranged: Aug 7 2010 - Catherine West, Nova Scotia Descendants Association Reunion Aug 14 - Linda Thompson, Powassan Heritage Day and then 3 weeks North Bay Museum Sep 9 - MP Kenney, LAC, Ottawa Sept 18/19 - Marion Crawford, New Brunswick Reunion Oct 23/24 - Brantford OGS Reunion Nov 2010 - Brantford Library May 2011 - Gail Collins, St Catharines June 2011 - Dawn Heuston, Chatham, Kent County Sept 2011 - Pat Skidmore, Fairbridge, British Columbia Gail Collins 508½ Niagara St St Catharines, On L2M 3P5 (905) 935-4960 gcollen@sympatico.ca ________________________________ From: Paul Robins <robins0379@rogers.com> To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 11:17:51 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children PAM ........... 2010 is " THE YEAR OF THE BRITISH HOME CHILD " . and a book is in the works, for publication, as I understand, AT THIS TIME . Have been in correspondence with others, on this list, further to this, some months ago. EVEN CONTRIBUTED A STORY. When the weather clears, and the dust settles, hopefully can get a couple of e-mail addresses to you . :-) Keep plugging .. this story has great promise. Paul Robins -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:39 PM To: "Simcoe Mailing List" <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children > > Hi Everyone, > > My turn to ask for some help. We had a visitor to the museum from > Belfast, Ireland today. He is looking for information on his > grandmother's brother who was sent to an orphanage in Ireland. He had > located Attestation Papers for Samuel Best who gave his place of > residence as Penetanguishene in 1915. He believes him to be his gr-uncle. > I have not had time to really get into this as yet and since it is a new > area of research I thought you great people might have some direction > for me and, of course, to eventually forward on to our visitor. > > Here is what I have so far: > > 1901, 1911 censuses: > No Samuel Best. Nor is there one in the 1911 census in Ireland. > > Personal knowledge: > He was an illegitimate child, as were his two sisters, supposedly all > had the same father. The girls did not go into an orphanage but he did. > All were Church of England. > > Attestation Papers: > His name as Samuel James Best. He enlisted Nov. 5, 1915 in Parry Sound > and gave his place of residence as Penetang. He was born 24th February > 1897 in County Down, Ireland and was a farmer on the date of enlistment. > His next-of-kin is his sister is Mrs. Nellie Jess (one of 2 sisters who > remained in Ireland) of Belfast. > > Civil registration of marriage: > He married Emma Brownsward in Guelph, Wellington County in 1923. He > stated he was 26 years old, a sawyer, bachelor. living in Toronto, C of > E., mother Ellen Best, father John Best and both died young. > > Immigration Record: > Samuel Best, born 1897 , arrived from Liverpool May 1908, destination > Toronto. Cleary states these were Dr. Barnardo's party. > > Home Children database in LAC records: > Samuel Best, age 11, male, Ship Dominion, arrived Quebec May 1908, > destination Toronto. Girls to Peterborough, no mention of where the boys > were sent. > > My task is now to prove the soldier Samuel and child Samuel are one and > the same. And of course, to figure out who he stayed with in Penetang > and how he got there. I'd really like to add him to our list of WW1 > soldiers from the area. > Any ideas? > > Pam > Penetang > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I made an oops today, hit the wrong button and sent a message prematurely - if so, please ignore previous message. My sincere thanks to all who responded to my plea for help, especially Bill Bennett who found the family on the 1901 Irish census when I had been told it had already been checked with no results. Check and recheck! Lesson learned. I have compiled a list of websites for our visitor to access when he returns home to Belfast. In addition, I have copied all material for him and requested a copy of Samuel's service file. The CD will be sent to him when it is received. The question still remains s to whether or not he is the Barnardo child arriving in 1908. It certainly would seem so, but our visitor will have to ascertain that for himself. He now has a starting point for his family research. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to pursue this further although I would certainly like to. Below is the information gleaned from the 1901 census, marriage registration, service papers and immigration records. Note: I have assumed he is a Barnardo child. Again, thanks to all. Pam First Generation 1. Unknown father BEST died before 1901. Unknown father BEST and Sarah (UNKNOWN) BEST were married. Sarah (UNKNOWN) BEST was born about 1838 in County Down, Ireland. In 1901 she was a seamstress in Ballynahinch, Dromore Urban, County Down, Ireland. She is listed as a widow in the 1901 census. Unknown father BEST and Sarah (UNKNOWN) BEST had the following children: +2 i. Evangeline "Ellen" BEST, born abt 1870, County Down, Ireland. +3 ii. Susan BEST, born abt 1874, County Down, Ireland; married John WHITE, abt 1899, Ireland. Second Generation 2. Evangeline "Ellen" BEST (Unknown-1) was born about 1870 in County Down, Ireland. In 1901 she was a seamstress in Ballynahinch, Dromore Urban, County Down, Ireland. John BEST was born (date unknown). His name is given in the marriage record of his son, Samuel. John BEST and Evangeline BEST had the following children: +4 i. Ellen "Nellie" BEST, born abt 1894, County Down, Ireland; married Unknown JESS. +5 ii. Samuel James BEST, born abt 1897, County Down, Ireland; married May BROWNSWARD, 4 Apr 1923, St. George's Church, Guelph, Wellington County, Ontario. 6 iii. Margaret Olive May BEST was born about 1900 in County Down, Ireland. 3. Susan BEST (Unknown-1) was born about 1874 in County Down, Ireland. Susan BEST and John WHITE were married about 1899 in Ireland. John WHITE was born about 1872 in County Down, Ireland. In 1901 he was a linen weaver in Ballynahinch, Dromore Urban, County Down, Ireland. He was Church of Ireland. John WHITE and Susan BEST had the following child: 7 i. Thomas WHITE was born about 1900 in County Down, Ireland. Third Generation 4. Ellen "Nellie" BEST (Evangeline Best-2, Unknown-1) was born about 1894 in County Down, Ireland. Ellen "Nellie" BEST and Unknown JESS were married. 5. Samuel James BEST (Evangeline Best-2, Unknown-1) was born about 1897 in County Down, Ireland. He immigrated in 1908 to Montreal, Quebec. After a trip of 10 days, Samuel arrived from Liverpool, England on board the ship "Dominion" in the company of 218 boys and 109 girls under the sponsorship of Dr. Barnardo and in the care of 'Mr. Lloyd'. Samuel's destination was listed as Toronto. He served in the military from 5 Nov 1915. He signed his Attestation Papers in Parry Sound. He stated his name was Samuel James Best, born 24 February 1897 in Dromore, County Down, Ireland and was residing in Penetanguishene, Ontario at the time of his enlistment. His next-of-kin was his sister, Mrs. Nellie Jess, living at 23 Collberg Street, Dondale, Belfast, Ireland. In 1923 Samuel was a sawyer living at 189 Palmerston St. in Toronto, York County, Ontario. Samuel James BEST and May BROWNSWARD were married on 4 Apr 1923 in St. George's Church, Guelph, Wellington County, Ontario. The marriage registration states "parents died young and maiden name can't be ascertained". May BROWNSWARD, daughter of Henry BROWNSWARD and Emma BATES, was born about 1895 in Newcastle, Staffordshire, England. In 1923 she was a machine operator living at 122 Palmer St. in Guelph, Wellington County, Ontario. <#INDEX_38>

PAM ........... 2010 is " THE YEAR OF THE BRITISH HOME CHILD " . and a book is in the works, for publication, as I understand, AT THIS TIME . Have been in correspondence with others, on this list, further to this, some months ago. EVEN CONTRIBUTED A STORY. When the weather clears, and the dust settles, hopefully can get a couple of e-mail addresses to you . :-) Keep plugging .. this story has great promise. Paul Robins -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:39 PM To: "Simcoe Mailing List" <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children > > Hi Everyone, > > My turn to ask for some help. We had a visitor to the museum from > Belfast, Ireland today. He is looking for information on his > grandmother's brother who was sent to an orphanage in Ireland. He had > located Attestation Papers for Samuel Best who gave his place of > residence as Penetanguishene in 1915. He believes him to be his gr-uncle. > I have not had time to really get into this as yet and since it is a new > area of research I thought you great people might have some direction > for me and, of course, to eventually forward on to our visitor. > > Here is what I have so far: > > 1901, 1911 censuses: > No Samuel Best. Nor is there one in the 1911 census in Ireland. > > Personal knowledge: > He was an illegitimate child, as were his two sisters, supposedly all > had the same father. The girls did not go into an orphanage but he did. > All were Church of England. > > Attestation Papers: > His name as Samuel James Best. He enlisted Nov. 5, 1915 in Parry Sound > and gave his place of residence as Penetang. He was born 24th February > 1897 in County Down, Ireland and was a farmer on the date of enlistment. > His next-of-kin is his sister is Mrs. Nellie Jess (one of 2 sisters who > remained in Ireland) of Belfast. > > Civil registration of marriage: > He married Emma Brownsward in Guelph, Wellington County in 1923. He > stated he was 26 years old, a sawyer, bachelor. living in Toronto, C of > E., mother Ellen Best, father John Best and both died young. > > Immigration Record: > Samuel Best, born 1897 , arrived from Liverpool May 1908, destination > Toronto. Cleary states these were Dr. Barnardo's party. > > Home Children database in LAC records: > Samuel Best, age 11, male, Ship Dominion, arrived Quebec May 1908, > destination Toronto. Girls to Peterborough, no mention of where the boys > were sent. > > My task is now to prove the soldier Samuel and child Samuel are one and > the same. And of course, to figure out who he stayed with in Penetang > and how he got there. I'd really like to add him to our list of WW1 > soldiers from the area. > Any ideas? > > Pam > Penetang > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pam, There is a website for a Barnardo group located in Peterborough ON. They hold meetings once a month during the winter. The name of the home where the girls were sent is called Hazelbrae, no longer standing, but the lady in charge of the meetings is Ivy, she may be able to help. 'barnardohazelbraegroup.com' Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> To: "Simcoe Mailing List" <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children > Pam > Penetang > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3080 - Release Date: 08/18/10 14:35:00

Hi Pam There is a home child email list you should post too A few years back I contacted Barnardo's in England to find out about a girl who lived with my Aunt Sarah Selina Tate in Orillia. The secretary in England did give me a fair bit of information so Barnardo's is worth a try for sure. This girl Elsy was with the Tates same time frame as your boy , early 1900s Give them a single Rob in Thunder Bay _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 18/08/2010 Tested on: 18/08/2010 19:30:51 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software.

Barnardo's might send a copy of his file to you, but is more likely to only send it to a direct descendant. Moreover they now charge what I think is an obscene rate for this, but it's worth it because the files have a lot of information in them you will never find anywhere else, including--usually--a photo taken of the child upon admission, & another one just before emigration. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> To: "Simcoe Mailing List" <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children > > Hi Everyone, > > My turn to ask for some help. We had a visitor to the museum from > Belfast, Ireland today. He is looking for information on his > grandmother's brother who was sent to an orphanage in Ireland. He had > located Attestation Papers for Samuel Best who gave his place of > residence as Penetanguishene in 1915. He believes him to be his gr-uncle. > I have not had time to really get into this as yet and since it is a new > area of research I thought you great people might have some direction > for me and, of course, to eventually forward on to our visitor. > > Here is what I have so far: > > 1901, 1911 censuses: > No Samuel Best. Nor is there one in the 1911 census in Ireland. > > Personal knowledge: > He was an illegitimate child, as were his two sisters, supposedly all > had the same father. The girls did not go into an orphanage but he did. > All were Church of England. > > Attestation Papers: > His name as Samuel James Best. He enlisted Nov. 5, 1915 in Parry Sound > and gave his place of residence as Penetang. He was born 24th February > 1897 in County Down, Ireland and was a farmer on the date of enlistment. > His next-of-kin is his sister is Mrs. Nellie Jess (one of 2 sisters who > remained in Ireland) of Belfast. > > Civil registration of marriage: > He married Emma Brownsward in Guelph, Wellington County in 1923. He > stated he was 26 years old, a sawyer, bachelor. living in Toronto, C of > E., mother Ellen Best, father John Best and both died young. > > Immigration Record: > Samuel Best, born 1897 , arrived from Liverpool May 1908, destination > Toronto. Cleary states these were Dr. Barnardo's party. > > Home Children database in LAC records: > Samuel Best, age 11, male, Ship Dominion, arrived Quebec May 1908, > destination Toronto. Girls to Peterborough, no mention of where the boys > were sent. > > My task is now to prove the soldier Samuel and child Samuel are one and > the same. And of course, to figure out who he stayed with in Penetang > and how he got there. I'd really like to add him to our list of WW1 > soldiers from the area. > Any ideas? > > Pam > Penetang > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, My turn to ask for some help. We had a visitor to the museum from Belfast, Ireland today. He is looking for information on his grandmother's brother who was sent to an orphanage in Ireland. He had located Attestation Papers for Samuel Best who gave his place of residence as Penetanguishene in 1915. He believes him to be his gr-uncle. I have not had time to really get into this as yet and since it is a new area of research I thought you great people might have some direction for me and, of course, to eventually forward on to our visitor. Here is what I have so far: 1901, 1911 censuses: No Samuel Best. Nor is there one in the 1911 census in Ireland. Personal knowledge: He was an illegitimate child, as were his two sisters, supposedly all had the same father. The girls did not go into an orphanage but he did. All were Church of England. Attestation Papers: His name as Samuel James Best. He enlisted Nov. 5, 1915 in Parry Sound and gave his place of residence as Penetang. He was born 24th February 1897 in County Down, Ireland and was a farmer on the date of enlistment. His next-of-kin is his sister is Mrs. Nellie Jess (one of 2 sisters who remained in Ireland) of Belfast. Civil registration of marriage: He married Emma Brownsward in Guelph, Wellington County in 1923. He stated he was 26 years old, a sawyer, bachelor. living in Toronto, C of E., mother Ellen Best, father John Best and both died young. Immigration Record: Samuel Best, born 1897 , arrived from Liverpool May 1908, destination Toronto. Cleary states these were Dr. Barnardo's party. Home Children database in LAC records: Samuel Best, age 11, male, Ship Dominion, arrived Quebec May 1908, destination Toronto. Girls to Peterborough, no mention of where the boys were sent. My task is now to prove the soldier Samuel and child Samuel are one and the same. And of course, to figure out who he stayed with in Penetang and how he got there. I'd really like to add him to our list of WW1 soldiers from the area. Any ideas? Pam Penetang

Pam, check out the British Home Children Descendants website and e- mailing list archives, etc.: http://www.britishhomechildren.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Tessier <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:40 pm Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Simcoe County Barnardo children To: Simcoe Mailing List <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com>

Hello, List: I am looking for the obituary of Vera (Atkinson) RUSHTON, who died February 9th, 2000 She was born October 19th, 1938 and lived in Belleville since the 1970s Thank you for your help Kale Liam Hobbes hobbes_k@hotmail.com ---------------

Hi Richard Try the Simcoe County OGS website. Unfortunately this was all for the Derhams, but that could be due to spelling variations. Derham Mary Anne ---- ---- 1891 Simcoe Cty Probate Records Index Index J43 Derham Patrick ---- ---- 1891 Simcoe Cty Probate Records Index Index J24 http://www.simcoebogs.com/index.htm Also, the Simcoe County Archives may have some information on the Derhams Heather -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Orr Sent: August 14, 2010 10:01 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Patrick Derham of Tuam, Tecumseth Twp. Hello, Looking for information on Patrick. (Not birth, death details etc.) Patrick was an entrepreneur, area builder and founder of Tuam. According to a book, Tecumseth Township - The Unforgettable Past, he built at least 4 homes in the area, one of which is listed as being occupied in the late 1800's by my McGinty ancestors. His nickname was "Yankee Derham". I would be interested in finding out more about his general history in the area as well as the homes that he built. Regards, Richard Orr Toronto ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Looking for information on Patrick. (Not birth, death details etc.) Patrick was an entrepreneur, area builder and founder of Tuam. According to a book, Tecumseth Township - The Unforgettable Past, he built at least 4 homes in the area, one of which is listed as being occupied in the late 1800's by my McGinty ancestors. His nickname was "Yankee Derham". I would be interested in finding out more about his general history in the area as well as the homes that he built. Regards, Richard Orr Toronto