Hi Gwen Great column!! I am hoping that we can receive permission to post the story to the website under your heading. If there isn't any problem, please let me know, we would love to post it. Thanks so much Lisa Burke -------------------------------------------------- From: "gwendolyn cunningham" <gwenny@snet.net> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:58 PM To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Recollections of Henry Fraser's Son > The following column I found recently upon my rereading of the paper. I > hope some of you find it helpful and most of you find it interesting. I'm > quite excited about the info contained in it! Does anyone know what > Alexander means when he talks about the Indians "doucing" his grandfather > and the rest of the group? I usually associate dousing with having water > poured on one but I am not familiar with what exactly he means by the > term! > Thanks, > Gwen Cunninghan > > The Orillia Packet, October 8, 1914- FIRST THINGS IN ORILLIA- Some Of Mr. > Alexander Fraser’s Recollections- Mr. Alex. Fraser relinquished his post > of His Majesty’s mail carrier on the 30th of September, after holding it, > on and off, for more than a quarter of a century. Mr. Fraser leaves > shortly to visit his daughter, Mrs. Grant, at Thedford, and from there > intends to go to Cobalt, to reside with his youngest daughter, Mrs. Perry. > Mr. Fraser’s removal will break one of the few remaining links with the > early pioneer days. Born at Price’s Corner, in 1836, he, with his parents, > came to Orillia in 1838. His father, who was the son of a British soldier, > and a native of London, England, had emigrated to the United States on his > marriage, but after a short time spent at Geneva, New York, he came on to > Canada, and settled in the bush near Rugby. A carpenter by trade, he > assisted in the building of Brough’s mill, and also of the first mill > erected by Captain Drinkwater, father of the Captain who died a year or > two ago. On coming to Orillia, Mr. Henry Fraser’s first work was a > contract for the erection of twelve houses for the Indians on the Rama > Reserve, at the time of their removal from the present site of the town. > After completing his first comtract, he built another six houses, making > eighteen in all. He then worked as a carpenter on the Royal Hotel, built > by Mr. George, on the > lake front, between Mississaga and Coldwater streets. When it was > completed he rented the hotel from Mr. George and lived there for some > time. > Mr. Alex. Fraser’s recollections go back to those early days. The only > white men he can recall in the town when he first remembers it were a > carpenter named Brown, a carpenter named Alex. Latimer, and “Squire” > Alley. In 1842, his parents left Orillia for Holland Landing. They took > three teams to carry their household effects, one of them in charge of the > late Andrew Harvie. Near the mouth of the Holland river the party was > overtaken by a heavy snowstorm. His grandfather started across the ice to > where he saw lights, but when he called out, the Indian’s “deuced” them > and he was nearly lost, the other men stretching out in a string to > recover touch with him. They had to spend the night on the ice. Mr. Fraser’s > brother was only six weeks old at the time. They were protected from the > storm by boughs on the sleigh, and were heavily covered over with > blankets. The horses also were covered up as well as could be, but the men > had a bad night of it. > After about two years at the Landing, Mr. Henry Fraser returned to > Orillia. He resided for a few months in Mr. Gill’s house near the junction > of the Atherley-road and Front street; then for a few months longer in an > Indian house on the site of Church’s livery stable. He built a house for > himself at the foot of Coldwater street, but lived there only a short > time, when he began the construction of what was long well known as Fraser’s > hotel, on what is now Couchiching Beach Park. Mr. Alex. Fraser can > remember the construction of the wharf of which the remains were only > recently removed. It was at this wharf the steamers used to land. His > father also built and operated a chair factory and a bowling alley. > About this time Mr. Henry Fraser made the Atherley road. It was of > corduroy, and he rafted the logs down from Washago to the bay behind Cedar > Island. Up to that time there had been no bridge across the Narrows. > Cattle had to be swum across, and people crossed in boats. Mr. Alex Fraser > recalls the first regatta held at Orillia. Colin Harris built a boat for > his father for the occasion, and it was manned by seven Gaudaurs and > Gills, six rowing. They won, of course. On that day there was the biggest > fight he ever saw in Orillia. Twenty-five men were engaged, and the fight > lasted over half an hour. Some of the combatants were badly mauled. > Another of Mr. Fraser’s early recollections is of the first court in > Orillia, which was held in the dining room of his father’s hotel, by Judge > Gowan, who rode over from Barrie for the purpose. He also recalls the > advent of the first clock pedlar, a man named Newton, who went all through > this district, remaining here about three years. “Peddling” was then a > very common way of selling goods. He remembers also when the first one > horse waggon came to town. For a long time, Mr. Gill and his father owned > the only one horse waggons in town, the latter bringing his from Roche’s > Point. Mr. Fraser never saw a buggy till he went to Barrie to reside, the > county town being then comparatively quite a metropolis. > In those days the Indians used to come to Orillia to get their annuity > money. They wore their native dress- leggings instead of trousers and > nothing on their feet in the summer, and blankets tied with sashes and > drawn up over their heads in the winter. They were very picturesque. In > the summer they crossed the lake in canoes, and in the winter on > showshoes, drawing sleds after them. Mr. Fraser has seen 20 canoes drawn > up on the shore beside his father’s hotel. > The first doctor whom Mr. Fraser can remember in Orillia was Dr. Caddy, > who lived on the site of the house long occupied by Mr. T.H. World, at the > corner of Neywash and Laclie streets. Mr. Fraser can remember being tended > by Dr. Caddy. He can also remember the cutting out of Laclie street, from > Tecumseh to Neywash streets. Near the same spot, Mr. George Hunter, father > of Mr. J.F. Hunter,had a tinsmith shop. Dr. Robbins lived down the lake > shore, near Ardtrea. There was then no road to his home, simply a track > through the bush. Communication was chiefly by lake, both winter and > summer. > In 1852, Mr. Fraser’s father bought Moffatt’s store, at the foot of > Coldwater street, and converted it into a hotel, erecting a wharf and > bowling alley there. Some years later on he removed to Barrie, and went > into hotel keeping there. Mr. Alex Fraser accompanied his parents, and was > away from Orillia until 1886. In the interval, he was for some years > engaged in the mail stage business between Cookstown and Gilford and > between Cookstown and Rosemount. He had eight horses on the road, and > covered 75 miles a day. The advent of the railway killed this flourishing > business. Mr. Fraser afterwards bought out his father’s hotel business at > Gravenhurst, and carried it on for three years just previous to coming to > Orillia. Here he first engaged in the livery business. But for the last 26 > years he has been the faithful royal mail carrier, out early and late, to > meet the numerous trains. At 78 he lays down the burden to enjoy a period > of well earned rest. Of > the friends and acquaintances of his early days, very few now remain, Mr. > John Regan, still off to the bush at 80, and Mr. Jacob Wilson, being two > of the few. The PACKET joins many friends in wishing Mr. Fraser health and > happiness in his new surroundings. > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following column I found recently upon my rereading of the paper. I hope some of you find it helpful and most of you find it interesting. I'm quite excited about the info contained in it! Does anyone know what Alexander means when he talks about the Indians "doucing" his grandfather and the rest of the group? I usually associate dousing with having water poured on one but I am not familiar with what exactly he means by the term! Thanks, Gwen Cunninghan The Orillia Packet, October 8, 1914- FIRST THINGS IN ORILLIA- Some Of Mr. Alexander Fraser’s Recollections- Mr. Alex. Fraser relinquished his post of His Majesty’s mail carrier on the 30th of September, after holding it, on and off, for more than a quarter of a century. Mr. Fraser leaves shortly to visit his daughter, Mrs. Grant, at Thedford, and from there intends to go to Cobalt, to reside with his youngest daughter, Mrs. Perry. Mr. Fraser’s removal will break one of the few remaining links with the early pioneer days. Born at Price’s Corner, in 1836, he, with his parents, came to Orillia in 1838. His father, who was the son of a British soldier, and a native of London, England, had emigrated to the United States on his marriage, but after a short time spent at Geneva, New York, he came on to Canada, and settled in the bush near Rugby. A carpenter by trade, he assisted in the building of Brough’s mill, and also of the first mill erected by Captain Drinkwater, father of the Captain who died a year or two ago. On coming to Orillia, Mr. Henry Fraser’s first work was a contract for the erection of twelve houses for the Indians on the Rama Reserve, at the time of their removal from the present site of the town. After completing his first comtract, he built another six houses, making eighteen in all. He then worked as a carpenter on the Royal Hotel, built by Mr. George, on the lake front, between Mississaga and Coldwater streets. When it was completed he rented the hotel from Mr. George and lived there for some time. Mr. Alex. Fraser’s recollections go back to those early days. The only white men he can recall in the town when he first remembers it were a carpenter named Brown, a carpenter named Alex. Latimer, and “Squire” Alley. In 1842, his parents left Orillia for Holland Landing. They took three teams to carry their household effects, one of them in charge of the late Andrew Harvie. Near the mouth of the Holland river the party was overtaken by a heavy snowstorm. His grandfather started across the ice to where he saw lights, but when he called out, the Indian’s “deuced” them and he was nearly lost, the other men stretching out in a string to recover touch with him. They had to spend the night on the ice. Mr. Fraser’s brother was only six weeks old at the time. They were protected from the storm by boughs on the sleigh, and were heavily covered over with blankets. The horses also were covered up as well as could be, but the men had a bad night of it. After about two years at the Landing, Mr. Henry Fraser returned to Orillia. He resided for a few months in Mr. Gill’s house near the junction of the Atherley-road and Front street; then for a few months longer in an Indian house on the site of Church’s livery stable. He built a house for himself at the foot of Coldwater street, but lived there only a short time, when he began the construction of what was long well known as Fraser’s hotel, on what is now Couchiching Beach Park. Mr. Alex. Fraser can remember the construction of the wharf of which the remains were only recently removed. It was at this wharf the steamers used to land. His father also built and operated a chair factory and a bowling alley. About this time Mr. Henry Fraser made the Atherley road. It was of corduroy, and he rafted the logs down from Washago to the bay behind Cedar Island. Up to that time there had been no bridge across the Narrows. Cattle had to be swum across, and people crossed in boats. Mr. Alex Fraser recalls the first regatta held at Orillia. Colin Harris built a boat for his father for the occasion, and it was manned by seven Gaudaurs and Gills, six rowing. They won, of course. On that day there was the biggest fight he ever saw in Orillia. Twenty-five men were engaged, and the fight lasted over half an hour. Some of the combatants were badly mauled. Another of Mr. Fraser’s early recollections is of the first court in Orillia, which was held in the dining room of his father’s hotel, by Judge Gowan, who rode over from Barrie for the purpose. He also recalls the advent of the first clock pedlar, a man named Newton, who went all through this district, remaining here about three years. “Peddling” was then a very common way of selling goods. He remembers also when the first one horse waggon came to town. For a long time, Mr. Gill and his father owned the only one horse waggons in town, the latter bringing his from Roche’s Point. Mr. Fraser never saw a buggy till he went to Barrie to reside, the county town being then comparatively quite a metropolis. In those days the Indians used to come to Orillia to get their annuity money. They wore their native dress- leggings instead of trousers and nothing on their feet in the summer, and blankets tied with sashes and drawn up over their heads in the winter. They were very picturesque. In the summer they crossed the lake in canoes, and in the winter on showshoes, drawing sleds after them. Mr. Fraser has seen 20 canoes drawn up on the shore beside his father’s hotel. The first doctor whom Mr. Fraser can remember in Orillia was Dr. Caddy, who lived on the site of the house long occupied by Mr. T.H. World, at the corner of Neywash and Laclie streets. Mr. Fraser can remember being tended by Dr. Caddy. He can also remember the cutting out of Laclie street, from Tecumseh to Neywash streets. Near the same spot, Mr. George Hunter, father of Mr. J.F. Hunter,had a tinsmith shop. Dr. Robbins lived down the lake shore, near Ardtrea. There was then no road to his home, simply a track through the bush. Communication was chiefly by lake, both winter and summer. In 1852, Mr. Fraser’s father bought Moffatt’s store, at the foot of Coldwater street, and converted it into a hotel, erecting a wharf and bowling alley there. Some years later on he removed to Barrie, and went into hotel keeping there. Mr. Alex Fraser accompanied his parents, and was away from Orillia until 1886. In the interval, he was for some years engaged in the mail stage business between Cookstown and Gilford and between Cookstown and Rosemount. He had eight horses on the road, and covered 75 miles a day. The advent of the railway killed this flourishing business. Mr. Fraser afterwards bought out his father’s hotel business at Gravenhurst, and carried it on for three years just previous to coming to Orillia. Here he first engaged in the livery business. But for the last 26 years he has been the faithful royal mail carrier, out early and late, to meet the numerous trains. At 78 he lays down the burden to enjoy a period of well earned rest. Of the friends and acquaintances of his early days, very few now remain, Mr. John Regan, still off to the bush at 80, and Mr. Jacob Wilson, being two of the few. The PACKET joins many friends in wishing Mr. Fraser health and happiness in his new surroundings.

Hi everyone, Big news! Upper Canada Land Petitions Index is now available online Subscribers familiar with OliveTreeGenealogy Blog know that I talk about Upper Canada Land Petitions (UCLP) a lot! See http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/ and look down the right side TOPICS for UPPER CANADA LAND PETITIONS I also talk about it a lot on AskOliveTree Blog See http://askolivetree.blogspot.com/ You can view an example of a Land Petition for a Loyalist claim which shows genealogists how much detailed information can be found in this wonderful resource. See Upper Canada Land Petition for a Loyalist Ancestor at http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/2008/10/upper-canada- land-petition-for-loyalist.html (that's a 2 line URL, must be copied and pasted into your web browser as one line) The terrific news is that Library and Archives Canada (LAC) has just launched a new online database, Upper Canada Land Petitions (1763-1865). Caveat - this is NOT the petitions themselves, this is an INDEX to the petitions, with full details on where the actual petitions can be found for each individual listed. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/upper-canada- land/index-e.html (another 2 line URL. If you can't get it to work, go to my blog at http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/ and click on the highlighted link) Through this online database, researchers can access more than 77,000 references to petitions for grants or leases of land created by individuals who lived in present-day Ontario between 1763 and 1865. This is an amazing new resource and one I'm utilizing already to double-check my previous searches of the microfilm in the Ontario Archives. With the online index you can use wildcards to represent letters, making it much easier to find all spellings of a surname. Using the microfilm index of course you cannot do that and must be very creative in your spelling! Enoy this wonderful new resource! Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ olivetreegenealogy@rogers.com or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

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I should have had another coffee before attempting to write this.......... Henault in France Henault Canada in 1688 when the immigrant ancestor arrived until 1720 when his son married as Henault Lafreniere Canada. Henault Lafreniere Canada from 1720 to the next generation, about 1764, when it became and remained just Henault until finally about 1866 when the surname Cadat was used in Ontario. Clear as mud? Pam

A question was asked a few days ago about the name Cadat and when it became Henault. This problem was interesting and since I am an early riser with only a dog to talk to................. This particular Cadat family (Joseph Cyrille Cadat and Lea Grozelle) changed the name from Henault to Cadat when the first children were baptised here in Penetanguishene. Cyrille Cadot's father Pierre Henault was baptised and married with the surname Henault, no dit name, just Henault. Prior to their arrival in Penetang about 1866, all the children (Cyrille's siblings) born in Quebec were baptised with the surname Henault. So in the same family we have children baptised Henault (later known as Cadat in Ontario) and children baptised as Cadat. Until 1720 when Pierre Henault Lafreniere Canada was born, Henault was the surname used by the family. The 1688 marriage of Pierre Henault Canada, the immigrant ancestor, recorded his surname using only the dit name Canada. Deb mentioned this in her post. There is really no rhyme or reason for the name changes over the centuries but beware confusing this group with other local families. Pam

The following announcement was included in Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter this morning: The following announcement was written by Library and Archives Canada: Ottawa, September 23, 2010 - Library and Archives Canada (LAC) is pleased to announce the launch of a new online database, “Upper Canada Land Petitions (1763–-1865).” If you are planning on applying for a certificate from the War of 1812 Society established by the Ontario Genealogical Society, these documents will help in your research. Pam

All the lists have been on the quiet side this summer. If you think you may have missed something you can check the list at the Rootsweb Archives. Cheers! Doreen ========== > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:00:52 -0700 > From: gwenny@snet.net > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Am I still subscribed? > > Dear List, > I haven't received any mail from the list for a few days now and I am wondering if I am still subscribed. I had mentioned that since I had changed providers I though my email address was being canceled but it turns out that the old provider did not cancel it after all and my address still is gwenny@snet.net. > How do I find out if I am still subscribed? > Thanks, > Gwen Cunningham > gwenny@snet.net > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes you are still subscribed Gwen If you did not unsubscribe, yourself, through the list then you are still subscribed. Heather -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gwendolyn cunningham Sent: September 23, 2010 9:01 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Am I still subscribed? Dear List, I haven't received any mail from the list for a few days now and I am wondering if I am still subscribed. I had mentioned that since I had changed providers I though my email address was being canceled but it turns out that the old provider did not cancel it after all and my address still is gwenny@snet.net. How do I find out if I am still subscribed? Thanks, Gwen Cunningham gwenny@snet.net ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thanks Jane, I guess things are just quiet on the mailing list. Gwen --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Jane Watt <jwatt@ica.net> wrote: From: Jane Watt <jwatt@ica.net> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Am I still subscribed? To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 8:17 PM This message got through to the list so I guess you are still subscribed! Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: gwendolyn cunningham <gwenny@snet.net> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:00 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Am I still subscribed? > Dear List, > I haven't received any mail from the list for a few days now and I am wondering if I am still subscribed. I had mentioned that since I had changed providers I though my email address was being canceled but it turns out that the old provider did not cancel it after all and my address still is gwenny@snet.net. > How do I find out if I am still subscribed? > Thanks, > Gwen Cunningham > gwenny@snet.net > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Heather! Phew --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Heather Bertram <aaron@bmts.com> wrote: From: Heather Bertram <aaron@bmts.com> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Am I still subscribed? To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 8:20 PM Yes you are still subscribed Gwen If you did not unsubscribe, yourself, through the list then you are still subscribed. Heather -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gwendolyn cunningham Sent: September 23, 2010 9:01 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Am I still subscribed? Dear List, I haven't received any mail from the list for a few days now and I am wondering if I am still subscribed. I had mentioned that since I had changed providers I though my email address was being canceled but it turns out that the old provider did not cancel it after all and my address still is gwenny@snet.net. How do I find out if I am still subscribed? Thanks, Gwen Cunningham gwenny@snet.net ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, I haven't received any mail from the list for a few days now and I am wondering if I am still subscribed. I had mentioned that since I had changed providers I though my email address was being canceled but it turns out that the old provider did not cancel it after all and my address still is gwenny@snet.net. How do I find out if I am still subscribed? Thanks, Gwen Cunningham gwenny@snet.net

This family is one of the best of the joyful challenges faced when researching our French ancestors. Pierre CADEAU and Josephte DUHAIME are my 3 x great grandparents - you'll have to dig around until you're comfortable with your own sources etc - but what I have found (and I'm not listing the sources here, too challenging for me to find at the moment, tucked away in another computer) is that the first HENAULT/ENAULT/ENAUD to set foot on these shores from Normandie used "dit Canada" upon his arrival in 1665. That fellow would be my 9x great grandfather Jacques (his wife one of the filles du rois, Marie LEROUX). So - as you can see, the confusion began when they hopped off the boat! The story of this first couple can be found in Volume 2 of King's Daughters and Founding Mothers: The Filles du Roi, 1663-1673 by Peter Gagne. Have fun! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Georgina Dean <deansden@wightman.ca> wrote: > hi again > Pierre Cadeau married Josephte Duhaime 1857 > SON > Joseph Cyrille Cadeau married Lea Grozelle 1887 > > THIS ancestry - can't quit figure what generation was Huneault > > I have a whole collection of research done by someone - but I keep finding > errors as I try to sort it out > > Lots of diect descendents still living in Penetanguishene > > Georgina > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> > To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Henault Cadeau > > > > > > This is one of those French Canadian names that makes researching such > > fun. A lot depends on which branch of which family you are tracing and > > where they originated in Quebec or France. > > Cadeau has more variations than Carter has liver pills: Cadieu, Cadieux, > > Cadat, Cadot, Cadotte and Henault has Anault, Enault, Eno. I am sure you > > get the picture by now! Good, because there are some clinkers to throw > > into this mix of names. > > Lets add a few more for Cadeau: Delorme, Canada and Deschamps. And just > > for fun, there can be any combination of 1 to 2 or even 3 names > > associated with one father. When we get to the children, they can all be > > known by different surnames with the word "dit" or a dash in the middle. > > If you are unfamiliar with the use of dit names, check out this website: > > http://www.afgs.org/termphra.html#dit and for a comprehensive, but in no > > way complete, list of dit names associated with French Canadian > > surnames: http://www.afgs.org/ditnames/index1.html > > > > Georgina, it would help if we knew which Cadeau you are looking for and > > where they were from in Simcoe County. I suspect I know where you are > > going with this so let's make it easier and give me a teeny weeny clue! > > > > Pam > > > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

hi again Pierre Cadeau married Josephte Duhaime 1857 SON Joseph Cyrille Cadeau married Lea Grozelle 1887 THIS ancestry - can't quit figure what generation was Huneault I have a whole collection of research done by someone - but I keep finding errors as I try to sort it out Lots of diect descendents still living in Penetanguishene Georgina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Tessier" <pamtessier@sympatico.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Henault Cadeau > > This is one of those French Canadian names that makes researching such > fun. A lot depends on which branch of which family you are tracing and > where they originated in Quebec or France. > Cadeau has more variations than Carter has liver pills: Cadieu, Cadieux, > Cadat, Cadot, Cadotte and Henault has Anault, Enault, Eno. I am sure you > get the picture by now! Good, because there are some clinkers to throw > into this mix of names. > Lets add a few more for Cadeau: Delorme, Canada and Deschamps. And just > for fun, there can be any combination of 1 to 2 or even 3 names > associated with one father. When we get to the children, they can all be > known by different surnames with the word "dit" or a dash in the middle. > If you are unfamiliar with the use of dit names, check out this website: > http://www.afgs.org/termphra.html#dit and for a comprehensive, but in no > way complete, list of dit names associated with French Canadian > surnames: http://www.afgs.org/ditnames/index1.html > > Georgina, it would help if we knew which Cadeau you are looking for and > where they were from in Simcoe County. I suspect I know where you are > going with this so let's make it easier and give me a teeny weeny clue! > > Pam > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is one of those French Canadian names that makes researching such fun. A lot depends on which branch of which family you are tracing and where they originated in Quebec or France. Cadeau has more variations than Carter has liver pills: Cadieu, Cadieux, Cadat, Cadot, Cadotte and Henault has Anault, Enault, Eno. I am sure you get the picture by now! Good, because there are some clinkers to throw into this mix of names. Lets add a few more for Cadeau: Delorme, Canada and Deschamps. And just for fun, there can be any combination of 1 to 2 or even 3 names associated with one father. When we get to the children, they can all be known by different surnames with the word "dit" or a dash in the middle. If you are unfamiliar with the use of dit names, check out this website: http://www.afgs.org/termphra.html#dit and for a comprehensive, but in no way complete, list of dit names associated with French Canadian surnames: http://www.afgs.org/ditnames/index1.html Georgina, it would help if we knew which Cadeau you are looking for and where they were from in Simcoe County. I suspect I know where you are going with this so let's make it easier and give me a teeny weeny clue! Pam

I seems that Henault became Cadeau does anyone know when and why? Georgina

Richard, I did not receive any other emails on this particular Robins family so had to piece it together with excerpts from books and documents. This Robins family probably came from Ireland to Grey County then finally to Simcoe County, Hillsdale area, about 1880. Thanks for your interest, Pam

Looking for info on my great-grandparents, Edward and Elizabeth Warmington Hayward. They were married 4/24/1844 somewhere in Ontario. I have no other vital stats on either of them. He was born in New York (unknown city) and she was either born in England or Ireland. She emigrated to Canada in 1840 with her mother and 6 of 7 siblings. My grandmother, Helen Marie Hayward was born in Walsingham 10/20/1862. She married Horatio Nelson Mather, probably in Michigan. She was Horatio's fourth wife and the only one to survive him. Her sister Orilla (b. 7/1857) was Horatio's third wife. Their other siblings were Levi, George, Thomas and Mary Jane Hayward. Mary Jane married Edwin Halsted and moved to Kansas after their first two children were born. I have a lot of information on her many children and their families. George fought in the Civil War. Prior to Helen's birth in 1862, the family was together in the 1861 census. By 1871, Helen and a brother Robert (who I presume died young?) were living with their uncle, James Warmington and their grandmother Elizabeth Warmington (Beaty). Elizabeth was a member of the Presbyterian church in Simcoe. I am trying to find: When and where Edward and Elizabeth (Liza) Hayward died and are buried. A death certificate for Elizabeth Warmington (Beaty). Information on the death of John Beaty between 1861-1871. Supposedly he got tired of hearing Elizabeth speak so fondly of her first husband, Lord Richard Warmington, that he went out to the barn and hung himself. Probably Norfolk Co. Emigration info on Orilla and Helen to Michigan. Grace

Sorry .but James' dad was George Loney ----- Original Message ----- From: "MAX SUTHERLAND" <maxandmarilynsutherland@rogers.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] obit Barrie Newspaper > Helen: If this is a son of a Samuel Loney, would you kindly let me know? > The > Sam Loney and family I'm interested in settled firstly in Lanark County, > then moved up to the McArthur Mills area northwest of Renfrew, dispersing > from there or shortly before leaving Lanark. Thanks.. > > Max Sutherland > (Ottawa) > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Helen Vaillancourt" <lucy@efni.com> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:37 PM > To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] obit Barrie Newspaper > >> Hello list >> Could some kind soul get an obit for me for James Loney? It's in the >> March >> 18, 1911, page 3 issue of the Barrie Saturday Morning Paper. >> Helen Vaillancourt >> ***************** >> Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy >> >> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >