Can you help me understand the location of this cemetery? The OCFA has the cemetery in SunnidaleTwp. Is it in Tosorontio or Sunnidale Twp. ? PROCTOR Lewis Glencairn Simcoe Sunnidale LDS971.317V3m PROCTOR Hannah (Willard) Glencairn Simcoe Sunnidale LDS971.317V3m Thanks much, Dee Miller Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Everett, Simcoe County Cemeteries? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheiladavidson11 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2493.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: They may be buried in Everett but, unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be a gravestone for them. According to the Adjala-Tosorontio Cemetery book, the only Willard listed (both townships) is a Hannah Willard, wife of Lewis Proctor, she died Jan. 28 1915 at age 48, and is buried in the Glencairn Village Cemetery in Tosorontio Township. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sheiladavidson11 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2493.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: They may be buried in Everett but, unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be a gravestone for them. According to the Adjala-Tosorontio Cemetery book, the only Willard listed (both townships) is a Hannah Willard, wife of Lewis Proctor, she died Jan. 28 1915 at age 48, and is buried in the Glencairn Village Cemetery in Tosorontio Township. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbdale_1 Surnames: Willard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2493.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I looked on the Ontario locator website, and saw that there is a village named Everett in Tosorontio township, Simcoe County. The Ontario archives has a microfilm for a ST. David's Anglican Church Cemetery in Everett, concession 5, lot 10. That might be the one you are looking for. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] 7th Line Cemetary, Anten Mills Could someone look up the following Cemetery Check for me: Janet SNEATH, born 06 December 1812, Hyson Green, Nottinghamshire, England died; 12 April 1845, Vespra Township. (She is my great grandmother.) I have been told by a relative that she was buired in the 7th Line Cemetery at Anten Mills. Ron C. Johnston

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Thanks for your words on mulatto. I lived in West Africa for 2 years so understand the red hair. Lady Patricia > To Paul and Lady Patricia:- > Possibly many are familiar with Nova Scotia -- my ancestors arrived > at Shelburne with an American habit - slaves - after my gr.gr.gr. > granfather was in prison because they lost at one battle. This was 1783. > As soon as they arrived at this British colony, the black slaves had to > go -- the younger ones were given land to farm and formed the town > of Birchtown, first black settlement in Nova Scotia. > Over the years they drifted to Liverpool -- and I guess I was young > when I expected to see a black couple together, but parents of a dear > friend were black and white, > My husband was brought up in a totally white community and was > suddenly awakened when he saw a very tall black man hugging and > kissing me -- good thing he was president of the local Legion! > My husband then became acquainted with the brother of a man > killed overseas in 1944, one of my friends. > Should anyone ever see WOMEN with very pale carroty coloured > hair, they are descendants of slaves picked up in Gambia, Africa. > The colour is real, but has to be pale. > Also, at Sunnybrook, my husband had four black caregivers - he > died in the arms of one. > Muriel > -----Original Message----- > From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of paron > Sent: June-29-07 1:12 PM > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] HARRINGTON / HERRINGTON > > Colleen, In reply to you ? "mulatto". > I did my DNA and found the same. I did see on a census from Hawaii that > stated Mulatto =not native. Has any one else seen that? > Lady Patricia > > The Canadian "NELSON" Dictionary describes the term as > (1) a PERSON HAVING ONE WHITE AND ONE BLACK PARENT > (2) A PERSON OF MIXED WHITE AND BLACK ANCESTRY > The origin of the word is evidentally SPANISH !!!!!!!!!!!! > > The Americans ( Bless Them ) in the days before Abe Lincoln declared > everyone equal, had a term for every mixture of black and white Ancestry. > > The one that comes to mind is QUADROON .... a person with one quarter > Black > Ancestry ......... one of your four Grandparents were of black Ancestry > !!!! > > Seem to recall that these terminologies had a basis in law, and determined > your particular " rights " to inheritance, land ownership, and a host of > other things, which thankfully are now HISTORY. > > Unfortunately, many of these past terms had derogatory usage .... which is > why I am (described as ) a WASP ..... White Anglo Saxon Protestant and > most > of the Neighbourhood are Pure White and Protestant !!!!!!!!!! > > Right now, some reader is probably preparing a pot full of > tar-and-feathers > :-) > > All in the interest of History, > > Paul Robins > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ABrewitt Surnames: Willard, Shepherd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2493.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for your time and help! I had been searching for a lot of that info! I now have some more leads to track down. Thanks again, Amy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

To Paul and Lady Patricia:- Possibly many are familiar with Nova Scotia -- my ancestors arrived at Shelburne with an American habit - slaves - after my gr.gr.gr. granfather was in prison because they lost at one battle. This was 1783. As soon as they arrived at this British colony, the black slaves had to go -- the younger ones were given land to farm and formed the town of Birchtown, first black settlement in Nova Scotia. Over the years they drifted to Liverpool -- and I guess I was young when I expected to see a black couple together, but parents of a dear friend were black and white, My husband was brought up in a totally white community and was suddenly awakened when he saw a very tall black man hugging and kissing me -- good thing he was president of the local Legion! My husband then became acquainted with the brother of a man killed overseas in 1944, one of my friends. Should anyone ever see WOMEN with very pale carroty coloured hair, they are descendants of slaves picked up in Gambia, Africa. The colour is real, but has to be pale. Also, at Sunnybrook, my husband had four black caregivers - he died in the arms of one. Muriel -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of paron Sent: June-29-07 1:12 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] HARRINGTON / HERRINGTON Colleen, In reply to you ? "mulatto". I did my DNA and found the same. I did see on a census from Hawaii that stated Mulatto =not native. Has any one else seen that? Lady Patricia The Canadian "NELSON" Dictionary describes the term as (1) a PERSON HAVING ONE WHITE AND ONE BLACK PARENT (2) A PERSON OF MIXED WHITE AND BLACK ANCESTRY The origin of the word is evidentally SPANISH !!!!!!!!!!!! The Americans ( Bless Them ) in the days before Abe Lincoln declared everyone equal, had a term for every mixture of black and white Ancestry. The one that comes to mind is QUADROON .... a person with one quarter Black Ancestry ......... one of your four Grandparents were of black Ancestry !!!! Seem to recall that these terminologies had a basis in law, and determined your particular " rights " to inheritance, land ownership, and a host of other things, which thankfully are now HISTORY. Unfortunately, many of these past terms had derogatory usage .... which is why I am (described as ) a WASP ..... White Anglo Saxon Protestant and most of the Neighbourhood are Pure White and Protestant !!!!!!!!!! Right now, some reader is probably preparing a pot full of tar-and-feathers :-) All in the interest of History, Paul Robins

Hi Annie and Marjorie: You're both welcome. Glad I was of some help to you. Regards, Lynne. > > Thankss Lynne,> >> Annie in Minnesota> > > Knowing that one of the family was born in Stouffville, I will now be able> to check early census records for the family's origins, believed to be in> Quebec. > Thank you so much for your help, it is greatly appreciated.> > Marjorie _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debglover_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2489.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You need to visit the Archives on Ontario Website. Under estates and Probates go to Simcoe County Surrogate and get the reel #. Then you can order it in. It is not help at the local library but you could check where the hold is with the Barrie City Libary by calling them directly. Their circulation desk is VERY helpful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: debglover_1 Surnames: Willard, Shepherd Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2493.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking at the marrige cert. for your James Alfred Willard it indicates that when he married (30 Nov. 1878) he indicates that he is 22 years old bachelor born in Ontario; his father is Ebenezer Willard and his mother is jane Shephard. James Alfred Willard married Mary Jane Peeler age 22 born in Ontario daughter of Charles Peelor (sp sic) and Sarah Clarke) I can also tell you that Jame's sister Annie Willard (born in Tossorontio Twp) married age 23 d/o Ebenezer Willard and Jane Shephard She was married 1 Aug. 1894 to chas. Carr also 23 years old son of jas. Carr and annie McEachern Cert. #010979 The were married at Alliston, Ontario, Nottawasaga Twp. Another sister Hannah Jane Willard born in Toronto aged 22 d/o Ebenezer Willard and Jane Shepherd married Louis Proctor age 40 born in England his parents were Jonas Proctor and Emma Horning. They were married 13 Oct. 1887 Cert. # 010966 married also at Alliston, Ontario and yes he was a bachelor on the licence. George Willard age 68 s/o Ebenezer Willard and Jane Shepherd married Mary Ann Marsland age 59. George indicates that he had been born in Simcoe Co. and Mary Ann Marsland had been born in Hohnstown. Her parents names were Thomas WALL (this was her 2nd marriage too) and her mother is listed as maria Williams. They were married 9 Dec. 1920 @ Timiskaming District (New Liskeard) The bride's father was originally from Tipperary, Ireland. Both he and his bride had been previously married listed as widow and widower. Next another sister Isabella age 16 d/o Ebenezer and Jane married ira Harris age 18 son of Ansen Harris and Margret Mowell (sp??) married 15 Dec. 1874 @ Barrie, Simcoe Cert. #07747 Next I found Susan listed place of birth as East Gwillimbury age 21 parents Ebenezer and jane married Thomas mcGaw born in Ireland age 22 parents Robert and Sarah McGaw. Married 12 May 1875 @ Essa, Simcoe Co. Cert. #08340 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I knew this group would have answers Thanks so much. Don't forget I have extensive documentation of Penetanguisheners that are connected to BOUCHER Just ask Georgina deansden@sympatico.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul and Ruth Robins" <robins0379@rogers.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] UEL > Georgina ........ O.C. refers to " ORDER-IN-COUCIL " , or otherwise put, the > Order giving a Land Grant to the Loyalist, or the Loyalist's daughter, or > son. > Sons received their O.I.C. for their 21st Birthday, daughters the same > or, at the time of their first marriage .. should they not be of age. > (Undoubtedly made the girls a desireable catch !!!!!! ) > Handy to know this, because it gives a close, approximate age, of an > Individual. It closed the gap on a 3rd G-Grandfather of mine, and helped > narrow down the year of his birth, to approx 1779., the Grant having been > made in 1800. > Paul Robins, U.E. ( My Ancestor was PETER FITZPATRICK, 2nd Battalion, > King's Royal Regiment of New York ) Peter, and all of his children received > O.C. Grants. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Georgina Dean > Sent: June-30-07 7:22 PM > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] UEL > > This is a knowledgable bunch of people. > In the book Loyalists in Ontario, most people have O.C. after the name, but > before the date > What does that refer to? Thanks for helping > > Georgina > Stratford > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Georgina ........ O.C. refers to " ORDER-IN-COUCIL " , or otherwise put, the Order giving a Land Grant to the Loyalist, or the Loyalist's daughter, or son. Sons received their O.I.C. for their 21st Birthday, daughters the same or, at the time of their first marriage .. should they not be of age. (Undoubtedly made the girls a desireable catch !!!!!! ) Handy to know this, because it gives a close, approximate age, of an Individual. It closed the gap on a 3rd G-Grandfather of mine, and helped narrow down the year of his birth, to approx 1779., the Grant having been made in 1800. Paul Robins, U.E. ( My Ancestor was PETER FITZPATRICK, 2nd Battalion, King's Royal Regiment of New York ) Peter, and all of his children received O.C. Grants. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Georgina Dean Sent: June-30-07 7:22 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] UEL This is a knowledgable bunch of people. In the book Loyalists in Ontario, most people have O.C. after the name, but before the date What does that refer to? Thanks for helping Georgina Stratford -------------------------------

This is a knowledgable bunch of people. In the book Loyalists in Ontario, most people have O.C. after the name, but before the date What does that refer to? Thanks for helping Georgina Stratford

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: glodaw_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2498.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Isaac Hart Sr was my gg-grandfather. Unfortunately I don't have much info regarding his coming to the US, but do have copy of his immigration papers, although they are hard to read! I've also been trying to find info on Rachel Terwilliger's family, have hit a brick wall on all counts! Would like to exchange any info you have and compare, maybe each of us has info that can help the other one. I don't often get on the rootsweb site (haven't done much genealogy lately) but you can email me at glodaw@comcast.net, just put Hart geneaolgy on it to let me know so I don't delete it! Gloria Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Greetings All By this time you will all be aware of the low response of YES answers to the informed consent question on the 2006 Census. We all agree that something must be done to prevent a similar result for the Census of 2011. Bill S-18 provided for a review of the administration and operation of the 'informed consent' provision that we were forced to accept without opposition in order to regain public access to Historic Census records. We are hoping that pressure from genealogists and historians might prompt an early review and ask that you write your parliamentary representatives seeking their support for this to happen. On 16 July 2007, representatives of the Canadian Historical Association, along with myself will be meeting with Anil Arora, Director General, Census Program Branch, Census Manager of Statistics Canada. Representatives of the Canadian Sociological Association and the Canadian Political Science Association may be in attendance as well. The meeting will be held in Ottawa, and the subject matter of the meeting will be the 'informed consent' question imposed on us by Bill S-18. We are hoping that meetings with Information Commissioner Robert Marleau, and Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart can be arranged for the same time, but that has yet to be confirmed. I will keep you informed of any further developments. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm

Well Paul, if anyone wants to get huffy, they need to invent a time machine that would enable them to go back and undo the terms in use back then. The terms were used to describe "property owned" and each term meant something of importance for that time period. The saddest thing is some of the States may still have laws defining "black". Even one drop in a 99.99% white person meant they HAD to list themselves as black! I seem to recall that was Louisiana and happened to a woman maybe 10-15 (maybe 20) yrs ago. Wish I could recall more of the details. I load down on trivia and can't remember anything important! How bout the 80 yr old man down in Va. that quit smoking 50 yrs before and was cleaning his attic. For some reason he decided he wanted a cigarette and caught his house on fire! Now what good is it to remember that? Ruth

-----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of paron Sent: June-29-07 1:12 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] HARRINGTON / HERRINGTON Colleen, In reply to you ? "mulatto". I did my DNA and found the same. I did see on a census from Hawaii that stated Mulatto =not native. Has any one else seen that? Lady Patricia The Canadian "NELSON" Dictionary describes the term as (1) a PERSON HAVING ONE WHITE AND ONE BLACK PARENT (2) A PERSON OF MIXED WHITE AND BLACK ANCESTRY The origin of the word is evidentally SPANISH !!!!!!!!!!!! The Americans ( Bless Them ) in the days before Abe Lincoln declared everyone equal, had a term for every mixture of black and white Ancestry. The one that comes to mind is QUADROON .... a person with one quarter Black Ancestry ......... one of your four Grandparents were of black Ancestry !!!! Seem to recall that these terminologies had a basis in law, and determined your particular " rights " to inheritance, land ownership, and a host of other things, which thankfully are now HISTORY. Unfortunately, many of these past terms had derogatory usage .... which is why I am (described as ) a WASP ..... White Anglo Saxon Protestant and most of the Neighbourhood are Pure White and Protestant !!!!!!!!!! Right now, some reader is probably preparing a pot full of tar-and-feathers :-) All in the interest of History, Paul Robins

Thankyou all for your helpful hints. I heard from Mike who handles the publications for Simcoe OGS soon after I posted my message and have since received my package. I guess I should have been a bit more patient. Have a great long weekend all. HAPPY CANADA DAY!!! Wendy Gust Surrey, B.C.