Hi Marg:I had a look at a few records but didn't find a lot of information. Maybe it will help if I can add a few more bits and pieces to the puzzle though. In the Collingwood Presbyterian cemetery records, there is a stillborn child, parents are Alexander and Esther and the date of death is August 11,1927. On this record, Alexander used the SMITH name and his birthplace given is Singhampton. On Alexander's attestation records in 1917, his mother's location is given as Collingwood. In 1913, his half-sister, Elizabeth Ann Lomath, died in Halton County, Division of Nelson. She was 15 years of age and her birthplace given as Nottawasaga. James Wait(e)s, father of Margaret, died at the age of 85 on May 11, 1890 in Nottawasaga Twp., The informant was his son, Thomas Waits. I checked for records in Simcoe County for marriages of children born to James Waits and Jane. On one record (for Martha), the mother's maiden name is given as Jane STEEL: Martha Waits, b. abt 1855 in Ontario married Wm. Robert Brown in 1875. Residence given as Bradford Thomas Waits, age 50 or 56, married Eliza Molesworthy, age 29, in 1898. Residence given as W. Gwillimbury Maggie Waits, b. Canada m. Goerge Wm. Lomath, 28 in Maple Valley (Nottawasaga) in 1895 Do you know if there is any connection to the Smith family listed on the 1891 census right below the Waits family? There is an Alexander Smith in Nottawasaga on the 1861 census. He is age 26, married and has 2 children. On the 1881 census, there is an Alexander Smith, age 18, Clerk, living with his mother, Christina (Alutina) and siblings Sydney and Jennie (Jessie) in Collingwood. They are also listed on the 1891 census. I wonder if this Alexander could be a possibility too. Don't know if any of this is helpful but I hope you find something useful for your search. Regards, Lynne Kemp. > I have been trying to unravel my grandfather's life for some time but > sometimes it's best to just ask for help. This list is terrific and have > made suggestions in the past, so I'll add what I have found out from past > suggestions.> > The facts are:> He is listed in the 1891 census, Alexander, living with his mother's > brother, Thomas Waits, along with his grandmother, mother and three > siblings.> > 1891 Census District 117 Simcoe S Nottawasaga No 2 page 25> Waits Thomas m 30 Ontario England Ontario > Ch of England Farm labourer> Jane f 70 w mo Ireland > Ireland> Margaret Ann f 26 sister Ontario > England> Sarah f 12 neice > Ontario> Alexander m 10 neph> George m 8 neph> Mary f 5 neice> > He participated in WWI and is using the name SMITH> > Canadian Soldiers of World War I, 1914-1918> Name: Alexander Smith Residence: Collingwood, Ontario, Canada Biirth Date: > 18 Oct 1882 Birth Location: Singham, Ontario, Canada (sb > Singhampton)Relative: Margaret Homouth [sb Lomath, married George William > Lomath 31 May 1895, two half-sisters Elizabeth and Sarah May] Relationship: > Mother Regiment Number: 2250778 Previous Service: 35th Reg. Collingwood 2 > yrs> > He married my grandmother, Esther Etta Dawson, 6 June 1917 at the > Presbyterian Church, Collingwood.> > >From previous information suggested:> > He is NOT the Alexander Smith who marries Bella (Isabella) Kenney 1 November > 1882 in Euphrasia, Grey County. This Alexander is the son of William > Wigdom Smith and Charlotte Hilts, born 28 August 1853.> > He is NOT the Alexander Smith who marries Sarah McFadyen 22 Feb 1888 in > Osprey, Grey County. This Alexander is the son of Alexander Smith and Mary > McDonald, born 7 Jan 1883.> > Singhampton is not a very big centre even today. So where is he in 1901 and > 1911? (Not born for 1881 census, no birth registration has ever been found)> > Thanks for any help.> > Marg > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Use fowl language with Chicktionary. Click here to start playing! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

Hi Lynne, Yes, there are six children born to Alex Smith and Esther Dawson, including a daughter Elizabeth who died at two weeks, 12 April - 28 April 1921, and the stillborn boy as you indicated. The other four lived to maturity but all are deceased now. Alexander consistently uses the name SMITH, and consistently lists his father as Alexander SMITH, but this person appears to ba a phantom. Singhampton (Singham on the attestation papers) is consistently listed as his birth place. It was actually a farmhouse on the road heading south out of Singhampton and sometimes they are listed in Nottawasaga and sometimes they are in Osprey as that road appears to be the boundary line. I have much information on the WAITS side of the family. Margaret is his mother, Thomas his uncle, James his grandfather and Jane STEELE WAITS, his grandmother. All of this information I have. Unfortunately James WAITS died at a time when parents names were not asked and he is another stumbling block (but later) When Maggie WAITS marries George LOMATH in 1895 she is listed as a spinster, but clearly has four children listed in the 1891 census. I have all four children's marriage records and they all list a different father's name, none of whom appear to exist. They do not use the same surname. I can think the worst of Maggie and believe she was a wild woman, fathering four children by four differnt men, marrying George having two more, and then George dies and she enters into another relationship. This would make six relationships. The reality is that she is living on a remote farm in a time where there were few people and brothers and sisters married brothers and sisters for lack of selection. No, someone has suggested she may have been an early Mormon but I have been having a hard time finding out anything about her or her children's father(s). All of Margaret/Maggie WAITS siblings married and had normal lives. Besides Martha and Thomas as mentioned, there were Jane/Jennie, Agnes, Eliza Ann, Emma and George. George died at 13 years. Emma may or may not belong to this family, and married Homer McGinnis, Jane married Matthew Ney, Agnes married Thomas Kell, Eliza Ann died at 11 years old. A monkey wrench that confused me initially is that Alexander's sister Mary married Hiram SMITH, another bunch of Smith's, ain't it grand. I was thinking Alexander was part of Hiram's family, not Mary's. My grandfather is not born for either the 1861 or 1881 census, do you have the rest of the family information for the two Alexander Smith families mentioned. Thanks for all the help, but as usual, my grandfather remains a mystery man. Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Kemp" <dent_48@hotmail.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Waits/Smith > Hi Marg:I had a look at a few records but didn't find a lot of > information. Maybe it will help if I can add a few more bits and pieces > to the puzzle though. > In the Collingwood Presbyterian cemetery records, there is a stillborn > child, parents are Alexander and Esther and the date of death is August > 11,1927. On this record, Alexander used the SMITH name and his birthplace > given is Singhampton. > > On Alexander's attestation records in 1917, his mother's location is given > as Collingwood. In 1913, his half-sister, Elizabeth Ann Lomath, died in > Halton County, Division of Nelson. She was 15 years of age and her > birthplace given as Nottawasaga. > > James Wait(e)s, father of Margaret, died at the age of 85 on May 11, 1890 > in Nottawasaga Twp., The informant was his son, Thomas Waits. > > I checked for records in Simcoe County for marriages of children born to > James Waits and Jane. On one record (for Martha), the mother's maiden > name is given as Jane STEEL: > Martha Waits, b. abt 1855 in Ontario married Wm. Robert Brown in 1875. > Residence given as Bradford > > Thomas Waits, age 50 or 56, married Eliza Molesworthy, age 29, in 1898. > Residence given as W. Gwillimbury > > Maggie Waits, b. Canada m. Goerge Wm. Lomath, 28 in Maple Valley > (Nottawasaga) in 1895 > > Do you know if there is any connection to the Smith family listed on the > 1891 census right below the Waits family? There is an Alexander Smith in > Nottawasaga on the 1861 census. He is age 26, married and has 2 children. > > On the 1881 census, there is an Alexander Smith, age 18, Clerk, living > with his mother, Christina (Alutina) and siblings Sydney and Jennie > (Jessie) in Collingwood. They are also listed on the 1891 census. I > wonder if this Alexander could be a possibility too. > > Don't know if any of this is helpful but I hope you find something useful > for your search. > Regards, > Lynne Kemp. > > > > > >> I have been trying to unravel my grandfather's life for some time but > >> sometimes it's best to just ask for help. This list is terrific and have >> > made suggestions in the past, so I'll add what I have found out from >> past > suggestions.> > The facts are:> He is listed in the 1891 census, >> Alexander, living with his mother's > brother, Thomas Waits, along with >> his grandmother, mother and three > siblings.> > 1891 Census District 117 >> Simcoe S Nottawasaga No 2 page 25> Waits Thomas m 30 Ontario England >> Ontario > Ch of England Farm labourer> Jane f 70 w mo Ireland > Ireland> >> Margaret Ann f 26 sister Ontario > England> Sarah f 12 neice > Ontario> >> Alexander m 10 neph> George m 8 neph> Mary f 5 neice> > He participated >> in WWI and is using the name SMITH> > Canadian Soldiers of World War I, >> 1914-1918> Name: Alexander Smith Residence: Collingwood, Ontario, Canada >> Biirth Date: > 18 Oct 1882 Birth Location: Singham, Ontario, Canada (sb > >> Singhampton)Relative: Margaret Homouth [sb Lomat! > h, married George William > Lomath 31 May 1895, two half-sisters Elizabeth > and Sarah May] Relationship: > Mother Regiment Number: 2250778 Previous > Service: 35th Reg. Collingwood 2 > yrs> > He married my grandmother, > Esther Etta Dawson, 6 June 1917 at the > Presbyterian Church, > Collingwood.> > >From previous information suggested:> > He is NOT the > Alexander Smith who marries Bella (Isabella) Kenney 1 November > 1882 in > Euphrasia, Grey County. This Alexander is the son of William > Wigdom > Smith and Charlotte Hilts, born 28 August 1853.> > He is NOT the Alexander > Smith who marries Sarah McFadyen 22 Feb 1888 in > Osprey, Grey County. > This Alexander is the son of Alexander Smith and Mary > McDonald, born 7 > Jan 1883.> > Singhampton is not a very big centre even today. So where is > he in 1901 and > 1911? (Not born for 1881 census, no birth registration > has ever been found)> > Thanks for any help.> > Marg > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use fowl language with Chicktionary. 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I sent you 1901 & 1911 Census information on the McLeod family, the marriages of the two daughters as well........ I don't know why they didn't show up in the email post. Doreen ============ > From: conlin2004@hotmail.com > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:38:25 -0800 > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] re McLeod > > > Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 > about Hector McLeod > Name: Hector McLeod > Birth Place: Ontario > Age: 22 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 > Father Name: John McLeod > Mother Name: Christiana McLeod > Spouse Name: Agnes Mary Gratrix > Spouse's Age: 20 > Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 > Spouse Birth Place: Ontario > Spouse Father Name: William Gratrix > Spouse Mother Name: Agnes Gratrix > Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1878 > Marriage Place: Simcoe > Marriage County: Simcoe > Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_28 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1881 Canada Census - Household: McLEOD > > Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion > Hector MCLEOD M Male Scottish 24 England Farmer Presbyterian > Agnes M. MCLEOD M Female English 21 England Presbyterian > Georgina MCLEOD Female Scottish 2 England Presbyterian > Thos. H. MCLEOD S Male Scottish Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:39 -0500 >> From: betiva@personainternet.com >> To: CAN-ONT-SIMCOE@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] re McLeod >> >> Looking for information on descendants of Hector and Agnes (nee Gratrix) >> McLeod of Tay Twp., Simcoe County. They had 8 children, Thomas, >> William, James C., Christina, Wesley R., Robert, Albert, Charles >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! > http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Read what Santa`s been up to! For all the latest, visit asksantaclaus.spaces.live.com! http://asksantaclaus.spaces.live.com/

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Hector McLeod Name: Hector McLeod Birth Place: Ontario Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Father Name: John McLeod Mother Name: Christiana McLeod Spouse Name: Agnes Mary Gratrix Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Spouse Birth Place: Ontario Spouse Father Name: William Gratrix Spouse Mother Name: Agnes Gratrix Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1878 Marriage Place: Simcoe Marriage County: Simcoe Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 Canada Census - Household: McLEOD Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion Hector MCLEOD M Male Scottish 24 England Farmer Presbyterian Agnes M. MCLEOD M Female English 21 England Presbyterian Georgina MCLEOD Female Scottish 2 England Presbyterian Thos. H. MCLEOD S Male Scottish Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:39 -0500 > From: betiva@personainternet.com > To: CAN-ONT-SIMCOE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] re McLeod > > Looking for information on descendants of Hector and Agnes (nee Gratrix) > McLeod of Tay Twp., Simcoe County. They had 8 children, Thomas, > William, James C., Christina, Wesley R., Robert, Albert, Charles > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

-----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Kemp Sent: December-10-07 4:27 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Waits/Smith Lynne .. Just wanted to say that I am having an ever-deepening respect for the scope, and depth of your research !!!!!!! The name SMITH always jumps off the page at me .. BUT .. have no connection to this lot . Just wanted to say, that if you ever get involved with the Irish SMITHS, of Tiny, Tay, Midland, Wyebridge, etc .. just give me a whistle !!!! I started, years ago, with HEBER SMITH, Mayor of Barrie, and later M.P. for Simcoe Centre, and a Second cousin, once removed. He told me that when SMITHs married SMITHs, even the SMITHs gave up trying to sort themselves out !!! However, believe that I have made the necessary connections. My Great-Grandmother was MARY JANE SMITH . ( from County ANTRIM, Ireland) now, ain't that an original name. AGAIN, thanks for your input .. It is always appreciated ! Paul Robins

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suncoaster Surnames: Walker, Gilbert Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks very much for your help. There is an LDS church in my town (Powell River BC) and I have used it before to order in films for the paternal side of my family. I will have them bring in the 1991 film for Dufferin co as I believe that is where I will find the Thomas Walker listing for that year. Tracy (note spelling--no 'e') may well have been unaware of his birth father's name, though you will note that in the 1881 census there were two children, Tracy and William O.A. who were listed as 1 year old, so unless he thought he was a twin, he must have been aware at some point that he was adopted. I had some correspondence with Helen Gilbert, wife of a Gilbert decendent of my line. She had never heard of Tracy but supplied me with much information on the family and pictures of Hezekiah and his syblings, including a brother, William Tracy Gilbert, who was doubtless my Tracy's namesake as well as his uncle. Again, thanks so much for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: satch42179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have tried every trick I know to find his birth registration. Looked under last name Beatty, even looked under Lawrence but no luck. If you are anywhere near a big LDS History Centre, they may have the Ontario BMD. I know the one in Vancouver does. They may also have the 1891 census for Mulmer [look in Dufferin County as well as Simcoe]. If not, they will certainly order it in for you. They will have the census indexes and numbers at the centre. Surely somebody in the Walker/Gilbert family knows about him. The name Tracey isn't that common. Did he know he was adopted? Family bible? I'm sure there are many Walkers and Gilberts in Simcoe but try this: canada411.ca Also here is the Simcoe Genealogy Site. http://www.waynecook.com/index.shtml Good luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Even as an Old ORO RESIDENT .. I was in the dark, about this location !!!! I certainly remember the name, but 50 years ago, when I left Oro, it was ( perhaps) not as important to me, at that time !!!!!!! Next time that I am thru the area, I will pinpoint it more closely. On the 15-16th Sideroad, it must only be a couple of miles east of MITCHELL SQUARE. And I remember Monty Leigh .. and certainly know the log house, where he is said to have lived. THANKS, again, everyone .. This list is truly productive . ASK, and Ye shall be Enlightened !!!!!!! Paul Robins

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suncoaster Surnames: Walker, Gilbert Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thankyou very much for this email-it has exactly the sort of information I hoped to get on the subject. It has been very frustrating to be facing a total dearth of information on my grndfather's early life, while at the same time having good information on him from age 20 or so to his death in 1918. Nobody in my family, I am convinced, had any knowledge of his birth parents; I only learned of it by accident myself. His birthday was given, on the 1911 census of Wetaskiwin, as December 1881. I therefore never bothered to check the 1881 census, but when I eventually did I was astounded to find a Tracy Gilbert in the Thomas Walker family. This, and one other source that I found in a Beatty family tree is the only place the name Gilbert shows up as his last name. Hi name everywhere after that is listed as Tracy Lawrence Walker. Hezekiah Gilbert, his birth father, eventually did marry Mary A.M. Beatty in 1885, but never claimed Tracy as their first child. This, despite the fact that the Gilberts and Thomas Walker's family both lived near Stanton in Mulmur twp, probably from 1880 to 1901 at least and would certainly have known each other. This is why I continue to look for evidence of his movements during his early life. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I believe there was a book "Monty Leigh Remembers" the book is available in Orillia book stores and is aobut this area. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wright" <john.laurie.wright@sympatico.ca> To: <robins0379@rogers.com>; <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Leighs Corners > Paul > > Directions to most cemeteries in Simcoe County are listed on the Simcoe > County Branch OGS website. There is also a short history for Leigh's > Corners. It is much older than indicated on the "Saving Graves" site. > > http://www.simcoebogs.com/Resources/cemeteries/townships/oro/leighs_corners. > htm > > John F. Wright > Barrie, Ontario > > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Ruth > Robins > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:21 PM > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Leighs Corners > > Perhaps WAYNE COOK CAN TELL US , just WHERE ( precisely ) is LEIGHS > CORNERS > . > > > > It is NOT listed in ONTARIO LOCATOR !!!!!!!!! How about some map > co-ordinates . Township, concession, etc .. > > > > I am acting, upon the assumption, that it is somewhere , in proximity, to > (CURRENT) EAST ORO , on the Old Highway # 11, between Barrie , and > Orillia > . > > > > Have lived here, for at least a Zillion Years, but AM STILL LEARNING > !!!!!!!!! > > > > Paul Robins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the Canada Census website, http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02012102_e.html Mulmur was enumerated under Simcoe County in 1891, though it had become part of Dufferin County by then. The reel number is listed as ... Mulmur - SIMCOE COUNTY (SOUTH) ONT 1891 T-6369 1901 T-6497 I don't have easy access to the census, but know from the newspaper indexes that there is an obituary for Mrs. H. Gilbert in the Orangeville Sun in Oct. 1902 and a Garfield Gilbert in July 1932. There is no obituary noted in the Sun for Hezekiah Gilbert, but there is a chance there was one in the Orangeville Banner for him, as well as for his daughter Lois Gilbert (Mrs Dowling) who died in 1982 and is buried in Greenwood, Orangeville. I do not have the full item, but note that the Dec. 1913 obituary for Thomas Walker in the Orangeville Banner names Tracey as a surviving child. Would any of these items be useful to you? If so, please contact me directly at sheiladavidson@sympatico.ca Sheila Davidson, Orangeville, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: December 10, 2007 3:45 AM To: CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Census data 1881-1901 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: satch42179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2.1 .1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found Thomas & Margaret Walker on 1881 census in Mulmur Tp with Tracey Gilbert, b approx 1880. This you likely already have. On the 1891 census for Simcoe, there is a Thomas Walker but none of the children listed with him are any match for the ones on the 1881 census so I don't think that it is the right family. No Tracey Gilbetr or Tracey Walker on the Simcoe census that I can find. I have the 1891 CD. Registration was very spasmodic in "northern' Ontario at the time of Tracey's birth. Simcoe could still have been considered north I think. The government assessor only came around periodically and lots of registrations just never happened. As Tracey Walker was in Mulmur in 1881 and 1901, chances are he was there in 1891. Mulmur is one of those townships that moved counties every once in awhile. I suspect it is not in Simcoe County in 1891. There is no Mulmur County on 1891 CD of Simcoe County. It was likely in Dufferin County. If you get the 1891 census either through your local library or LDS library you may find him. 1891 is not on line yet for Dufferin is not on line yet as far as I can find. Thomas is still in Mulmur in 1901 census so they never moved so must be there in 1891. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, thanks for your enquiry. I probably meant 1880, not 1890. His actual birthdate is still not entirely nailed down, but was listed as Dec.1880 on the 1911 census of Wetskiwin AB, and on his marriage licence in Manitoba, in 1905. According to the 1901 census, when he was listed as a domestic in the John Ewing family of Mulmur twp, his birthday is listed as "Don't know", and 1880, age 20. On the 1881 census which was, I think, taken in April of that year, he is shown as age 1. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Davidson" <sheiladavidson@sympatico.ca> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com>; <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Census data 1881-1901 > I am trying to follow the various emails on this subject to see if I could > help, but I am confused. > In another email you say Tracy was born c1890, but below you say he was in > 1881 census. > Did you mean 1891 census ? > > > Sheila Davidson, Orangeville, Ontario > > Researching: > > Proctor, Cole, Williams, Fish, Baxter, Sirr, Robbins, Rawn, Markle, Wilson, > Culbert, > > Davidson, McDonald, Norton, Courtney, Hambly, Hubbard, Brown, Greenaway > > and all pioneer families of Dufferin County & area. > > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/ > > Volunteer of Dufferin County GenWeb, Free Look-ups at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~onduffer/dufferin.html > > Volunteer of Ontario Cemeteries Resources, for Dufferin County at > http://www.wightman.ca/~dkaufman/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Sent: December 9, 2007 1:56 PM > > I'm looking for a way to access census data between the above dates, to find > out more about my grandfather's whereabouts after he appeared on the 1881 > census as Tracy Gilbert, apparently adopted by the Thomas Walker family then > living at Stanton in Mulmur twp. He shows up on the 1901 census as Tracey > Walker, a domestic in the John Ewing family, also near Stanton. I can find > no birth record for him, though I have confirmed that his birth father was > Hezekiah Gilbert, birth mother Mary Anne McLean Beatty, daughter of Nancy > Walker (Thomas Walker's sister)and William Hamilton Beatty. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

List members Further to my previous message, if you have problems accessing the site due to the "wrap" in address, please use the following link and than scroll down to Leigh's Corners under Oro Township. http://www.simcoebogs.com/Resources/re_cemeteries_geographic.htm John -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Wright Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:41 AM To: robins0379@rogers.com; can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Leighs Corners Paul Directions to most cemeteries in Simcoe County are listed on the Simcoe County Branch OGS website. There is also a short history for Leigh's Corners. It is much older than indicated on the "Saving Graves" site. http://www.simcoebogs.com/Resources/cemeteries/townships/oro/leighs_corners. htm John F. Wright Barrie, Ontario

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: satch42179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found Thomas & Margaret Walker on 1881 census in Mulmur Tp with Tracey Gilbert, b approx 1880. This you likely already have. On the 1891 census for Simcoe, there is a Thomas Walker but none of the children listed with him are any match for the ones on the 1881 census so I don't think that it is the right family. No Tracey Gilbetr or Tracey Walker on the Simcoe census that I can find. I have the 1891 CD. Registration was very spasmodic in "northern' Ontario at the time of Tracey's birth. Simcoe could still have been considered north I think. The government assessor only came around periodically and lots of registrations just never happened. As Tracey Walker was in Mulmur in 1881 and 1901, chances are he was there in 1891. Mulmur is one of those townships that moved counties every once in awhile. I suspect it is not in Simcoe County in 1891. There is no Mulmur County on 1891 CD of Simcoe County. It was likely in Dufferin County. If you get the 1891 census either through your local library or LDS library you may find him. 1891 is not on line yet for Dufferin is not on line yet as far as I can find. Thomas is still in Mulmur in 1901 census so they never moved so must be there in 1891. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Paul Directions to most cemeteries in Simcoe County are listed on the Simcoe County Branch OGS website. There is also a short history for Leigh's Corners. It is much older than indicated on the "Saving Graves" site. http://www.simcoebogs.com/Resources/cemeteries/townships/oro/leighs_corners. htm John F. Wright Barrie, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Ruth Robins Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:21 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Leighs Corners Perhaps WAYNE COOK CAN TELL US , just WHERE ( precisely ) is LEIGHS CORNERS . It is NOT listed in ONTARIO LOCATOR !!!!!!!!! How about some map co-ordinates . Township, concession, etc .. I am acting, upon the assumption, that it is somewhere , in proximity, to (CURRENT) EAST ORO , on the Old Highway # 11, between Barrie , and Orillia . Have lived here, for at least a Zillion Years, but AM STILL LEARNING !!!!!!!!! Paul Robins ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suncoaster Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes. I have all that, but thank you for your interest in my query. My main interest is what happened to Tracy after he joined the Thomas Walker family in 1880/1. Apparently, he was adopted, though not formally, by his great Uncle Thomas Walker, but because I haven't been able to access any census records between 1881 and 1901, I don't know where he was, where he might have gone to school, and so on. After 1901 he went to Manitoba, where he married Blanche Martin in 1905 and they had two children, Marjory (my mother) and Lawrence. After that they went to Wetaskiwin AB and had threemore children, Blanche, Mel and Thelma. He, his wife and son Lawrence died within a few days of each other in December, 1918 of Spanish flu. I am particularly interested in the blank period between 1881 and 1901, because no details of his illegitemate birth and subsequent early life with the Thomas Walker family have come down to us, his decendents. There may be surviving Gilbert decendents who have some knowledge of it, but if so, I have yet to find them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Paul, Heide done that cemetery for me and that is what I precisely asked her. Where the hell is Leigh's Corners (but in a nice way). I'm on vacation for 3 weeks in January so I hope to add all the locations to all the cemeteries on that page. Cheers for now Wayne Cook http://www.waynecook.com (A History Television Approved Site) Host for the Simcoe County Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml Ontario, Canada Host for the Parry Sound Muskoka Genweb site at http://www.waynecook.com/parrysound.html 1. Historic Plaques of Ontario 1,588 Plaques online http://www.waynecook.com 2. The Canadian Query Boards at http://www.waynecook.com/bulletin.html 3. Tombstone Territory (online gravemarkers in Simcoe County) http://www.waynecook.com/Tombstone_Territory.html 4. CHAT at http://www.waynecook.com/chat.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul and Ruth Robins" <robins0379@rogers.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Leighs Corners > Perhaps WAYNE COOK CAN TELL US , just WHERE ( precisely ) is LEIGHS > CORNERS > . > > > > It is NOT listed in ONTARIO LOCATOR !!!!!!!!! How about some map > co-ordinates . Township, concession, etc .. > > > > I am acting, upon the assumption, that it is somewhere , in proximity, to > (CURRENT) EAST ORO , on the Old Highway # 11, between Barrie , and > Orillia > . > > > > Have lived here, for at least a Zillion Years, but AM STILL LEARNING > !!!!!!!!! > > > > Paul Robins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: satch42179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hezekiah Walker and wife Mary A M are living in Mulmur on 1901 census [www.automatedgenealogy.com] with children, Garfield, 16, Lois 5 and Cecil 3. Hezekiah and Mary Ann Beatty got married in 1885. She was 19 which would have only made her 14/15 when she had Tracey. Hezekiah died 10 Feb 1921 of diabetes, b 31 May 1860 in Ontario. He was merchant in general store. Hezekiah and family are well covered in Ancestry.ca. [except for Tracey] If you want the full marriage/death registrations let me know through this site. Hezekiah is widow in 1911 census. No sign of Tracey near by. Is there a chance you could get Mary Gilbert's obituary? It may list Tracey on it. I cannot find a death registration for her. Cannot find a thing on Tracey/Thomas after 1901 census. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suncoaster Surnames: WALKER Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Doen't sound like the right Walker. Tracy was born either 1890 or 1891, so coudn't be more than 10 yrs old in 1891. Also, he was Methodist, not Roman Catholic. Thanks for the effort, though. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.