MANY THANKS TO ROBERT NEIL, for an excellent dissertation on metes, and bounds. I am intending to print this one out, for sake of future reference. That said; let's expand, just a little. In SIMCOE COUNTY, which commenced in 1843 ( with it's first Council ), the concessions were, indeed, one-and-a-quarter miles apart. BUT, this allowed for a 66 ' (foot) road allowance, on either side of the enclosed SQUARE MILE. THE SQUARE MILE thus contained 640 acres, which was divided into FOUR FARMS. The actual farm thus became 160 acres, (more-or-less) allowing for natural allowances, as rivers and streams. Those of us OLD ENOUGH, will probably remember the Old Song "I've got 160 ACRES in the Valley, A 160 acres to call my own " THAT FRIENDS, was a QUARTER SECTION, or one-quarter of a square mile .. The square mile of 640 acres being known as ONE SECTION. My Mother purchased a farm, in Oro, in 1940, said to be 160 acres, more-or-less. She was second-owner, from the Crown. Thirty-three years later ( 1973 ), when I administered her estate, we were still trying to sort our titles, to various pieces of the farm, which had been sold to various persons, but the titles never registered !!!!!!! I eventually gifted some of it to various folks, who had been working their purchase, since before we became farmers !!!!! This was my initiaton into METES AND BOUNDS !!!! Paul Robins World Traveller, that I became :-) . I once became acquainted with a fellow who was farming TWENTY-TWO SECTIONS, in Alberta !!!!!!! Paul -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Neil Sent: December-20-07 7:34 AM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Measures & chains & acres - This may help: LAND MEASUREMENT IN ONTARIO. Land must be described in precise terms so that one tract can never be mistaken for another. There are two systems used in Ontario. 1. Lot and Plan of subdivision 2. Metes and Bounds, (angles and distances) commonly used in rural, non-settled areas LOT and PLAN In 1792, Governor Simcoe had the "new" PROVINCE of Ontario, divided into COUNTIES by having surveyors trek through the bush and mark the actual boundaries. In some cases the boundary followed a lake or water course, but in most cases just a straight line through bush established the boundary . Regards, --- Bob === Robert Neil Chatham-Kent, ON rneil@sympatico.ca

Deborah, this may add to the confusion but here are a few metric conversions of the 'Old Imperial Lengths & Areas' in case you wanted to make a table as Pat suggested. Length: Inch [2.54 cm] Link = 7.92 inches [20.116 cm] (see Chain for explanation) Foot = 12 inches [30.48 cm] Yard = 3 feet [91.44 cm] Rod, Pole or Perch = 25 links = 5œ yards [about 5 metres] Chain = 22 yards = 66 feet = 100 Links [length of a cricket wicket, about 20 metres] Furlong = 10 chains = 220 yards [length of a furrow, about 200 metres] Mile = 8 furlongs = 1760 yards = 5280 feet [a thousand Roman paces (a Roman 'pace' was actually 2 paces: left, right) – about 1600 metres] Area: Sq foot = 144 sq inches Sq yard = 9 sq feet = 1296 sq inches [0.836 sq metre] Sq Pole = 30Œ sq yards [often simply referred to as a Pole or Perch in land measurement] Rood = Œ acre = 1,210 sq yards = 40 sq poles Acre = 4 roods = 10 sq chains = 4840 sq yards = Statute acre [0.40 hectare] [eg. a good-sized football pitch – but note that a Customary (or Saxon) acre was different, and that Scottish and Irish acres were different again] Virgate = 30 acres [but varied in different districts - also called yardland] Hide = 4 virgates [but really denoted the amount of land sufficient to support a family, and varied according to the locality or quality of the land] Sq mile = 640 acres [259 hectares = 2.59 Sq Km] ............................ I wouldn't memorize all this as there won't be a test !! --- Bob === Robert Neil Chatham-Kent, ON rneil@sympatico.ca

This may help: LAND MEASUREMENT IN ONTARIO. Land must be described in precise terms so that one tract can never be mistaken for another. There are two systems used in Ontario. 1. Lot and Plan of subdivision 2. Metes and Bounds, (angles and distances) commonly used in rural, non-settled areas LOT and PLAN In 1792, Governor Simcoe had the "new" PROVINCE of Ontario, divided into COUNTIES by having surveyors trek through the bush and mark the actual boundaries. In some cases the boundary followed a lake or water course, but in most cases just a straight line through bush established the boundary . The Counties were then divided into large parcels called TOWNSHIPS. Many townshops are are squarish, but most have a boundary defined by water course of some kind: lake, stream, river, canal. Each township was divided into strips of land called CONCESSIONS and numbered in Roman Numerals starting at l. Each concession was separated by a road allowance, even though a road was not present. These road allowances are owned by the Province and are public property. This measuement was based on the old "Chains and Links" system where a chain is 66 feet, and 100 links make a chain. There were 80 chains in a mile. Each consession was 100 chains across or 1 1/4 mile. The townships were also divided into LOTS running in the opposite direction of the concessions and numbered Arabic Numerals starting at 1. Lots too are divided by a road allowance every 5 lots and separated each from the other by a Lot line. Although sizes varied with topography, a lot usually consisted of 200 acres which is still the size of many Ontario farms, but as farms were bought and sold, families grew, sons married and lots were separated for each to build a home, the descriptions of title changed to perhaps the North 1/2 of Lots7 and 8 or even the S.E. 1/4 of Lot 5 as long as the parcel contained a minimum of 50 acres. The description of a property could then be: Lot 5 Concession lll in the Township of Green in the County of York in the Province of Ontario. To create an area of smaller lots, as within a Town proper, a Plan of Subdivision showing those lots was made and submitted to the town council by the owner of the land. To identify specific properties in that plan of subdivision the properties were numbered. Initially Plansof Subdivision were named, then later numbered. The description of a property could then be: Lot 27, Robinson Plan, Town of Oakwood, Township of Scott, County of Bruce in Ontario. METES and BOUNDS Parcels less than 50 acres, as in the case of a building lot not part of a subdivision, could not be described by Concession, Lot and Plan. The perimeters of these parcels were measured with a system of angles and distances in very precise terms using compass directions and measurements called metes and bounds. Firstly location is established.... "PREMISING that the Westerly limit of the road allowance between Concessions lX and X has a bearing of North 45 degrees, 11 minutes, 30 seconds West and relating all bearings herein hereto; " Secondly the parcel to be severed is located.... "COMMENCING at a point in the Westerly limit of the said road allowance distaant 462.48 feet measured on a bearing of South 45 degrees, 11 minutes, 30 seconds East along the Westely linit of said road allownace from the Northeast angle of said Lot 8;" Then the perimeter of the severed property is described using compass directions and measurements to swing away from True North or South in an easterly or westerly direction from the starting point and ending back at the starting point. The term "more or less" is used to allow for minor error as the parcels must be completely enclosed with no gaps. Example: "THENCE South 38 degrees 15 minutes 22 seconds West a distance of 120.36 feet to a point; THENCE South 44 degrees 03 minutes 40 seconds East a distance of 113.26 feet to a point; THENCE North 43 degrees 9 minutes 52 seconds East a distance of 120.18 feet, more or less, to a point in the Westerly limit of raod alowance; THENCE North 45 degrees 11 minutes 30 seconts West along said Westerly linit of road allowance a distance of 114 feet more or less, to the place of commencement." Regards, --- Bob === Robert Neil Chatham-Kent, ON rneil@sympatico.ca From: "Deborah Crawford" <orkney5@sympatico.ca> Reply-To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Measures & chains & acres - oh my Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:07:04 +0000 Good morning one & all. A question to any budding or current land surveyor experts......... I'm in the midst of transcribing conveyancing instructions from a ledger housed in the archives at the Penetanguishene Centennial Museum. This ledger of mortgages, lease agreements, chattel loans, wills, etc commences in 1905 to ? (I haven't cheated and peeked at the end of the book yet!). One oddity I am encountering has me curious and I thought I'd see if any of our listers can explain this - the land descriptions are very detailed, but - in land descriptions I see the terms, which I have heard before, of - chains, measures, links, feet, yards, rods and acres - all in the same paragraph or on the same page. It's not a matter of it being entered by a different author - these reports were all entered by W.H. HEWSON. I was just curious to know if there was any sort of standard which determined when various terms were used, i.e. chains, links, etc. Or was it merely a matter of Mr. Hewson writing down descriptions perhaps based on previous descriptions, or just writing whatever his little heart desired. Any opinions? Methinks Mr. Hewson just did this, knowing that 100 years hence I'd be puzzled over the same...........No?

Hi Deborah What a lovely Christmas present you've got there! <ha ha> Could I suggest that once some other member of the list gives you the scientific definitions of all the terms and converts them all to Metric for you (and I'm quite sure one or ten may), you set them in a table and put said table in an easily accessible footnote in your transcription. That way "budding or current land surveyor experts" and just plain genealogical researchers of the future may be less confused. I think you might just be right about Mr Hewson. Have you found his qualifications for his job? /cheers & Merry Christmas & good luck Pat Jeffs who recalls reading a survey made in 1840 that referred to a post placed at one corner of the land in question. The land had been obtained originally as a settler's grant circa 1805. Now, what were the odds of the post being there in 1840? Or at the next sale? -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Deborah Crawford Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:07 AM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Measures & chains & acres - oh my Good morning one & all. A question to any budding or current land surveyor experts......... I'm in the midst of transcribing conveyancing instructions from a ledger housed in the archives at the Penetanguishene Centennial Museum. This ledger of mortgages, lease agreements, chattel loans, wills, etc commences in 1905 to ? (I haven't cheated and peeked at the end of the book yet!). One oddity I am encountering has me curious and I thought I'd see if any of our listers can explain this - the land descriptions are very detailed, but - in land descriptions I see the terms, which I have heard before, of - chains, measures, links, feet, yards, rods and acres - all in the same paragraph or on the same page. It's not a matter of it being entered by a different author - these reports were all entered by W.H. HEWSON. I was just curious to know if there was any sort of standard which determined when various terms were used, i.e. chains, links, etc. Or was it merely a matter of Mr. Hewson writing down descriptions perhaps based on previous descriptions, or just writing whatever his little heart desired. Any opinions? Methinks Mr. Hewson just did this, knowing that 100 years hence I'd be puzzled over the same...........No? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning one & all. A question to any budding or current land surveyor experts......... I'm in the midst of transcribing conveyancing instructions from a ledger housed in the archives at the Penetanguishene Centennial Museum. This ledger of mortgages, lease agreements, chattel loans, wills, etc commences in 1905 to ? (I haven't cheated and peeked at the end of the book yet!). One oddity I am encountering has me curious and I thought I'd see if any of our listers can explain this - the land descriptions are very detailed, but - in land descriptions I see the terms, which I have heard before, of - chains, measures, links, feet, yards, rods and acres - all in the same paragraph or on the same page. It's not a matter of it being entered by a different author - these reports were all entered by W.H. HEWSON. I was just curious to know if there was any sort of standard which determined when various terms were used, i.e. chains, links, etc. Or was it merely a matter of Mr. Hewson writing down descriptions perhaps based on previous descriptions, or just writing whatever his little heart desired. Any opinions? Methinks Mr. Hewson just did this, knowing that 100 years hence I'd be puzzled over the same...........No?

Hello List Members: Just a quick note to let you know that Owen Noble called me yesterday to let me know that he had received his letter from the town informing him that he had been accepted as a recipient for the Order of Collingwood. I'm sure Jopie Loughead's family will be receiving a letter soon too. Thanks to Carole Stuart of the Collingwood Public Library for nominating them and also thanks to all of you who sent supporting letters. The awards will be presented on January 6, 2008. Regards, Lynne Kemp. _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

Greetings All. For those interested, the latest issue of 'Gordon Watts Reports' is now on line at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0105.htm Topics include: * Library and Archives Canada (LAC) - Services Advisory Board * Canada-wide Genealogy Association * More about the former Canadian Federation of Genealogical and Family History Societies (CFGFHS) * More grave marker photos on line * Merry Christmas May I take this opportunity to wish everyone reading my post the very merriest Christmas and the happiest New Year ever. May the coming year find you prosperous and in good health. If you are traveling to be with family or friends for the Holidays (as I will be Thursday morning), I urge you to do safely. Take the time to arrive safely, and to return home the same way. A few minutes, or hours, difference in travel time is not worth the heartache and suffering that could result from being involved in an accident because you are in a hurry. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, British Columbia Read my column, 'Gordon Watts Reports' at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm Permission to forward this message without notice is granted.

Further information could be available at the Dufferin county museum and archives. They have a site. Direct your query to Steve. Mulmur was originally in Simcoe county until c1881 when it became part of Dufferin County, which was a new county formed of adjacent townships. When researching in Ontario, stick to the township as some townships are found in differing areas over the years, but usually retain their township status. Certainly in the time period that interests us. I am really incensed by the current renaming of townships to such meaningless terms as Clearview. Perhaps someone cleaned their glasses there. Best of luck. Joan Tracy <tracwalk@shaw.ca> wrote: Yes. I have all that, but thank you for your interest in my query. My main interest is what happened to Tracy after he joined the Thomas Walker family in 1880/1. Apparently, he was adopted, though not formally, by his great Uncle Thomas Walker, but because I haven't been able to access any census records between 1881 and 1901, I don't know where he was, where he might have gone to school, and so on. After 1901 he went to Manitoba, where he married Blanche Martin in 1905 and they had two children, Marjory (my mother) and Lawrence. After that they went to Wetaskiwin AB and had three more children, Blanche, Mel and Thelma. He, his wife and son Lawrence died within a few days of each other in December, 1918 of Spanish flu. I am particularly interested in the blank period between 1881 and 1901, because no details of his illegitemate birth and subsequent early life with the Thomas Walker family have come down to us, his decendents. There may be surviving Gilbert decendents who have some knowledge of it, but if so, I have yet to find them. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Census data 1881-1901 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: satch42179 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2574.2/m b.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hezekiah Walker and wife Mary A M are living in Mulmur on 1901 census [www.automatedgenealogy.com] with children, Garfield, 16, Lois 5 and Cecil 3. > > Hezekiah and Mary Ann Beatty got married in 1885. She was 19 which would have only made her 14/15 when she had Tracey. > > Hezekiah died 10 Feb 1921 of diabetes, b 31 May 1860 in Ontario. He was merchant in general store. > > Hezekiah and family are well covered in Ancestry.ca. [except for Tracey] > If you want the full marriage/death registrations let me know through this site. > Hezekiah is widow in 1911 census. No sign of Tracey near by. Is there a chance you could get Mary Gilbert's obituary? It may list Tracey on it. I cannot find a death registration for her. > Cannot find a thing on Tracey/Thomas after 1901 census. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail

Hi Marg: Here is the Alexander SMITH family on the 1861 census: Nottawasaga, Page 48, Line 11, SMITH, Alex'r/Farmer/b. Scotland/CE/age 26/Married Mary/b. Canada West/CS/age 26/Married Isabella/b. CW/CS/age 3 Robert/b.CW/CS/age 2 SIMPSON, Thomas/b. England/CE/age 25/Single/Non-Family This is the other Alexander SMITH I mentioned: 1891 census, Collingwood, B2, Page 17, Line 2, SMITH, Christina/age 54/Widow/b. Ontario, father b. Scotland, mother b. Scotland/CP Alexander/age 27/Son/Single/b. Ont., father Scotland, mother Ontario/CP Jessie/age 22/Daughter/b. Ont., Scotland, Ontario/CP/School Teacher also in the household, MORRISON, Annie, age 17 McCAFFREY, Christina, age 19 SING, Edith, age 23 I believe this is the same family on the 1881 census: Alutina SMITH W Female Scottish 40 Ontario Presbyterian Alex SMITH Male Scottish 18 Ontario Clerk Presbyterian Sydney SMITH Male Scottish 16 Ontario School Presbyterian Jenie SMITH Female Scottish 12 Ontario School Presbyterian Alex GILLESPIE W Male Scottish 89 Scotland Presbyterian Source Information: Census Place Collingwood, Simcoe North, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375887 NA Film Number C-13251 District 139 Sub-district C Division 2 Page Number 66 Household Number 313 Good luck with your search. Regards, Lynne Kemp. P.S. Thanks again, Paul for your kind remarks :) > My grandfather is not born for either the 1861 or 1881 census, do you have > the rest of the family information for the two Alexander Smith families > mentioned.> > Thanks for all the help, but as usual, my grandfather remains a mystery man.> > Marg _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

Hi Try the Simcoe County OGS website, settlers data base, it will help to narrow down the cemetery they are buried in. http://www.simcoebogs.com/ Heather -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Catt Sent: December 11, 2007 6:22 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Lakeview Cemetery , Midland , lookup I am researching the Descendants of Edward Piggott, who died in Midland and is buried with his wife and some of his descendants. I would appreciate any information or photo's of the Family and descendants. Carol On Tue 11/12/07 6:10 PM , 'Paul and Ruth Robins' sent: The name PRESTON is a dynasty, in Midland, in it's own right !!!!!!! They were a prolific lot. Can you put some "meat" on this message, of any sort ? Birth, or death dates ? I have a MABEL M. PRESTON , in my Tree, but she was one of six daughters, and two sons. One of her sisters, ADA, was a favourite Aunt, who made it to 95. Paul Robins Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Lakeview Cemetery , Midland , lookup Author: RuthWaite55 Surnames: Preston Gardner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575/mb. ashx Message Board Post: Researching Preston family many of whom are buried in Lakeview Rebecca (Gardner) John Alex Bertha Frederick John Mabel May W.E. Gladys ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com [1] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] mailto:CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am researching the Descendants of Edward Piggott, who died in Midland and is buried with his wife and some of his descendants. I would appreciate any information or photo's of the Family and descendants. Carol On Tue 11/12/07 6:10 PM , 'Paul and Ruth Robins' sent: The name PRESTON is a dynasty, in Midland, in it's own right !!!!!!! They were a prolific lot. Can you put some "meat" on this message, of any sort ? Birth, or death dates ? I have a MABEL M. PRESTON , in my Tree, but she was one of six daughters, and two sons. One of her sisters, ADA, was a favourite Aunt, who made it to 95. Paul Robins Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Lakeview Cemetery , Midland , lookup Author: RuthWaite55 Surnames: Preston Gardner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575/mb. ashx Message Board Post: Researching Preston family many of whom are buried in Lakeview Rebecca (Gardner) John Alex Bertha Frederick John Mabel May W.E. Gladys ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com [1] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] mailto:CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com

The name PRESTON is a dynasty, in Midland, in it's own right !!!!!!! They were a prolific lot. Can you put some "meat" on this message, of any sort ? Birth, or death dates ? I have a MABEL M. PRESTON , in my Tree, but she was one of six daughters, and two sons. One of her sisters, ADA, was a favourite Aunt, who made it to 95. Paul Robins Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Lakeview Cemetery , Midland , lookup Author: RuthWaite55 Surnames: Preston Gardner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575/mb. ashx Message Board Post: Researching Preston family many of whom are buried in Lakeview Rebecca (Gardner) John Alex Bertha Frederick John Mabel May W.E. Gladys

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthWaite55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tuesday morning ...11:11 ...have not received it . I am puzzled . Maybe you could put it on message board , if you don`t mind. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HABertram Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I resent the transcription last night to your email address. Heather Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthWaite55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No , Heather , I did not receive anything. rwaitec568@rogers.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HABertram Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ruth Did you get the transcriptions that I sent you? Heather Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthWaite55 Surnames: Preston Gardner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2575/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Researching Preston family many of whom are buried in Lakeview Rebecca (Gardner) John Alex Bertha Frederick John Mabel May W.E. Gladys Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Someone has the family on ancestry in the OneWorldTree, but with only 4 of the kids, Georgina, Thomas, William and James. Annie in Minnesota In a message dated 12/10/2007 9:39:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, conlin2004@hotmail.com writes: Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Hector McLeod Name: Hector McLeod Birth Place: Ontario Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Father Name: John McLeod Mother Name: Christiana McLeod Spouse Name: Agnes Mary Gratrix Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Spouse Birth Place: Ontario Spouse Father Name: William Gratrix Spouse Mother Name: Agnes Gratrix Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1878 Marriage Place: Simcoe Marriage County: Simcoe Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_28 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- 1881 Canada Census - Household: McLEOD Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion Hector MCLEOD M Male Scottish 24 England Farmer Presbyterian Agnes M. MCLEOD M Female English 21 England Presbyterian Georgina MCLEOD Female Scottish 2 England Presbyterian Thos. H. MCLEOD S Male Scottish Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:39 -0500 > From: betiva@personainternet.com > To: CAN-ONT-SIMCOE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] re McLeod > > Looking for information on descendants of Hector and Agnes (nee Gratrix) > McLeod of Tay Twp., Simcoe County. They had 8 children, Thomas, > William, James C., Christina, Wesley R., Robert, Albert, Charles > > ------------------------------- **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Georgina Almira McLeod Name: Georgina Almira McLeod Birth Place: Tp of Tay Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Father Name: Hector McLeod Mother Name: Agrus Mary Gratrix McLeod Spouse Name: Robt James Burnfield Spouse's Age: 22 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Spouse Birth Place: Vasey Spouse Father Name: Robert Burnfield Spouse Mother Name: Elizabeth Barr Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1900 Marriage Place: Simcoe Marriage County: Simcoe Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_105 Source: Indexed by: Ancestry.com Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Christina Anabell McLeod Name: Christina Anabell McLeod Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Father Name: Hecton McLeod Mother Name: Mary Agnes Gratrix McLeod Spouse Name: Frederick Hill Spouse's Age: 25 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Spouse Father Name: Henry Hill Spouse Mother Name: Ellen Haslop Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1910 Marriage Place: Simcoe Marriage County: Simcoe Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_150 _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

Looking for information on descendants of Hector and Agnes (nee Gratrix) McLeod of Tay Twp., Simcoe County. They had 8 children, Thomas, William, James C., Christina, Wesley R., Robert, Albert, Charles