Hi Rhoda: I have been trying to see if I could find Jane's parents names but have found anything yet. Are you aware that they (Thomas, Jane, etc. Ireton) are buried in Greenwood Cemetery in Owen Sound? This cemetery is on-line at http://city.owen-sound.on.ca/cemetery/index.cfm with an e-mail contact address. Maybe you could try sending them a message to see if they have more information in their records. Regards, Lynne Kemp. P.S. I did find a Margaret Lee married to a George Ireton. Since in so many families there were often marriages of 2 sisters to 2 brothers or cousins, I wonder if this Margaret could be a sister to Jane. Her parents were Robert Lee and Isa(bella) McAuley and on the 1851 census there is a daughter, Jane (of the right age as yours), with them in Grey County (Holland Township). Maybe you could check the 1861 Grey County census to see if Jane is still living with the family. Margaret Lee Ireton and her husband were married in Grey County (Flesherton) in 1868 and her residence was given as Artemesia Township. The transcription gives her parents as Robert Lee and Isa McNally but I am pretty sure it is the same person as the one on the 1851 census. Since they all end up in Grey County eventually, I wonder if there is a connection. > Message: 2> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:41:48 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Presbyteriand Church, Bradford, Gwillimbury> twp.> To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1199407308.316366@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: eandrcook> Surnames: Ireton, Lee> Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2580/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction. > > Thomas Ireton b. 1834 Ireland and Jane Lee b. 1836 Ontario were married in Bradford on 12 July 1859. Thomas was the son of Jacob Ireton and Ann Lee. > > I would like to find out the name of Jane Lee's parents. > > 1. Does anyone have any idea if there is anyway of finding this other than church records.> 2. If I need to search church records, I assume it would be a Presbyterian Church, any idea what the name of the church would be and where would the records be kept.> > Thanking you in advance for any help.> > Rhoda Cook> East St Paul, Manitoba> > > Found her death registration but her parents aren't given.> > Jane Ireton, 4 Feb 1885, 48, blacksmith's wife, b Simcoe County, cause: cardiac dropsy about 1 yr, Informant: Thomas Ireton , blacksmith, of Derby, Grey County, Registration # 005584.> > The 1851 census for Simcoe County is missing/destroyed.> Looked on 1861 Simcoe census for them but they aren't there. Jacob and Ann Ireton are in West Gwillimbury Tp. There are MANY Lees listed. > > The Presbyterian church records would likely be in the United Church Archives. www.unitedchurcharchives.ca> > _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006

Hi, I'll try this again (I keep sending messages, but the text is missing when it is posted). Anyway, you can contact Doug Skelding directly if you are interested in buying his book "Ordeal By Fire - A History of the Collingwood Fire Department". The cost of the book is $31.50 which includes the GST but not the shipping (actually I think it just covers the cost of the printing of the book). His email address is firebuff@sympatico.ca John

Hello All, While Deb has been having fun with her conveyance book and sheriff's ledger, I have been slogging away at another fun project. Fun for me, anyway! Each year the Lafontaine Festival du Loup organizers pick three families of early settlers to honour. See their website for more information on this event. Last year it was the Chretien, Leblanc and Desroches families who had centre stage at their 'museum'. If you had attended this event, you would have seen wonderful old photographs and met the cousins of all three families. It really was a great families reunion! Someday, the volunteers would like to see a museum in Lafontaine and to make sure they have something to put on the shelves, I created books for each of the three families. They are compilations of information and copies of original documents pertaining to the immigrant ancestor and every generation down to the grandchildren of the Lafontaine settlers. I don't write family histories in narrative form but I do spend time doing the research. It is all there in one book! They are for sale at the Museum. This year, 2008, the families to be honoured are the Marchands, Daousts and St-Amands. The 1.75 inch thick Volume 1 of the Marchand family history has been completed and is now in our collection and for sale, of course. <g> Forgive the commercials but we do need the money! The Marchand Family, Volume 11 is almost ready for the copier. Copies can be ordered in advance. If you descend from Louis or Zephirin, you will be interested in this volume. Louis Vital is the subject of Volume 1 and if you descend from one of his daughters or live in Minnesota, this one is for you. A very special thanks to the Friends of the Museum who underwrite the printing costs of all our projects. They ensure that what little profit there is goes directly to the Research Centre. Bless their hearts! The Daoust family book is in the research stage. If I survive this part of the project, it will be ready in February or March. Incidentally, all the research on these families was done at the Centre, using the facilities available to everyone. With luck, the St-Amand book will be completed before the July event but don't count on it. We are planning an event - the Settlers' Day Drummond Island Families Reunion - that will be receiving all our attention for many months to come. Some news from the Research Centre: The bad news first - we have had to raise the cost of "The Marriage Repertoire" by $8.00. (I didn't give the price, List Admin!) It is now bound. If you using the old Hamelin and Desroches versions, it is past time to buy this one. It is cheaper, contains many corrections and is much easier to use. For first time visitors --two free hours of research, or just browsing, any Saturday until the end of April. Call ahead if you will need assistance as I am now working only from 1 to 4:30 on Saturdays. Help is also available on Wednesdays from the "ladies who know". Of course, you are welcome to come up anytime the museum is open. Enthusiastic volunteers are welcome to assist in planning the Drummond Island event in September. Email me off-list for more information. Whatever your talents, we can use you. We guarantee you will meet really nice people and have fun. The Research Centre has been given 'official' recognition by the Museum board as an archive and we are now subject to the same rules as all archives everywhere. So leave your Timmies in the car if you are visiting! Give us 100 hours of volunteer time (including planning for the 2008 event) and we will give you a membership at the Museum. This is a great offer (stop snickering!) as this is a family membership with reciprocal privileges for admission to other Ontario museums, archives etc., including the ROM. I can't tell you the value because we don't mention cost on this list but it is substantial. In addition to unlimited research time, you can also use it for reduced prices on kids' camps and the gift shop. Just like Deb, you will get to see the secrets buried in the archives or get your name in a book! Interested? Email me for more information. Here is something you may not have known about us. You don't have to be researching French Canadian families or Drummond Islanders to use our facilities to full advantage or to enlist our help. We can help you with research - anywhere. We are brave and bold! At present, we are helping a member with family in Newfoundland -- early settlers on the Island. What fun! Seriously. I could give you a long, long list of all the goodies (donated and purchased) we have added to our collection this past year but it would be much more fun if you came up yourself and browsed the shelves. From the sins of our forefathers in the sheriff's ledger to the remarkable stories of our brave ancestors written in French or English, we've got it all. See you soon? Pam Tessier Genealogy & History Research Centre Penetanguishene Centennial Museum & Archives

I may not be related to these people but I do enjoy reading about the mortgage details. Thank you for taking the time to do this transcription and to send this interesting article to the list. Once the initial excitement of finding birth, marriage and death dates passes it's nice to be able to "flesh out" the life and times of our ancestors. People on this list have been so generous with their time and hard work helping others find answers and break down those brick walls. I have been the recipient of a great deal of information about my family tree from list members and I hope to repay their kindness when I retire and more time to devote to the search. Mary Leunissen researching EMMS, HART, TENNANT, STAMP, MARTIN and many others Deborah Crawford <orkney5@sympatico.ca> wrote: Just thought I'd pass on a passage that I found interesting in the conveyancing mortgage book I'm transcribing. Yes, I'm still working on it - up to 1908 now. Interest rates still hovering about 7% (up from 6 1/2 from previous years for most mortgages). Many women held mortgages - most listed as the "wife of so & so", but never the less, the mortgages were held by the wives. Lots of chattel mortgages issued, with property listed for chattel as diverse as teams of horses and milk cows, to one such as this - thought the group out there would enjoy reading this.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: satch42179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2579.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a town named Simcoe in Norfolk County. This board is for Simcoe County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: satch42179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2580.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Found her death registration but her parents aren't given. Jane Ireton, 4 Feb 1885, 48, blacksmith's wife, b Simcoe County, cause: cardiac dropsy about 1 yr, Informant: Thomas Ireton , blacksmith, of Derby, Grey County, Registration # 005584. The 1851 census for Simcoe County is missing/destroyed. Looked on 1861 Simcoe census for them but they aren't there. Jacob and Ann Ireton are in West Gwillimbury Tp. There are MANY Lees listed. The Presbyterian church records would likely be in the United Church Archives. www.unitedchurcharchives.ca They used to do lookups but I don't know if they still do that or not. Sorry couldn't be of more help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Just thought I'd pass on a passage that I found interesting in the conveyancing mortgage book I'm transcribing. Yes, I'm still working on it - up to 1908 now. Interest rates still hovering about 7% (up from 6 1/2 from previous years for most mortgages). Many women held mortgages - most listed as the "wife of so & so", but never the less, the mortgages were held by the wives. Lots of chattel mortgages issued, with property listed for chattel as diverse as teams of horses and milk cows, to one such as this - thought the group out there would enjoy reading this. Oct 15 1908: Chatttel mortgage George Herbert KNIGHT of Penetang, book-keeper, to Fanny J. MACKIN of Penetang assistant station agent, $200.00 Int 7% as follows: $25 on principal and interest on amount of principal outstanding from time to time, payable on 15th January, April, July & October of the years 1909 and 1910 of the following household furniture and chattels, contained in dwelling upon part Lot 128 W of Church St Penetang now occupied by mortgagor. Mahogany table, mahogany chair upholstered, mahogany china cabinet with mirror panels, Axminster rug, oak dining table, 6 oak dining chair, Axminster Rug, 1 set china fruit dishes, 1 cut-glass fruit bolw, 3 china jardinieres, 1 set dinner service, 1 cook stove & utensils, 1 oil stove, 1 kitchen table and two chairs, 1 iron & brass bed stead with mattresses & springs, 1 mahogany dresser & 1 mahogany wash stand, one small coal heater. Quite the inventory. I wonder, in case of non-payment, how Miss Mackin would go out seizing the chattel? Take the rug one day, a dinner service the next, perhaps a fruit bowl or two..... Interesting glimpse into life & times of 100 years ago. As you can see, this ledger has all kinds of genealogical hints - occupation, address, date living at said address & at said occupation. Miss Mackin interests me as she holds many mortgages in the years 1907/08. I will be investigating her further the next time I'm at the museum. Hope you find this kind of interesting as well, if not, I apologize for taking up your time - kindly hit the delete button.... Have a great night, one & all

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eandrcook Surnames: Ireton, Lee Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2580/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Thomas Ireton b. 1834 Ireland and Jane Lee b. 1836 Ontario were married in Bradford on 12 July 1859. Thomas was the son of Jacob Ireton and Ann Lee. I would like to find out the name of Jane Lee's parents. 1. Does anyone have any idea if there is anyway of finding this other than church records. 2. If I need to search church records, I assume it would be a Presbyterian Church, any idea what the name of the church would be and where would the records be kept. Thanking you in advance for any help. Rhoda Cook East St Paul, Manitoba Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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I found it interesting enough to forward to two cousins who are also working on a family tree in the area with me. Keep up the good work and thank you for it. Annie in Minnesota In a message dated 1/3/2008 7:42:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, orkney5@sympatico.ca writes: Hope you find this kind of interesting as well, if not, I apologize for taking up your time - kindly hit the delete button.... **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Hi Debra This is great. Things like this really tell us how our ancestors lived. Thanks very much. Malcolm Campbell Searching for CURRIE and McDOUGALL on Lagmore Farm, in Simcoe Co. -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Deborah Crawford Sent: January 3, 2008 8:41 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Quite a chattel mortgage Just thought I'd pass on a passage that I found interesting in the conveyancing mortgage book I'm transcribing. Yes, I'm still working on it - up to 1908 now. Interest rates still hovering about 7% (up from 6 1/2 from previous years for most mortgages). Many women held mortgages - most listed as the "wife of so & so", but never the less, the mortgages were held by the wives. Lots of chattel mortgages issued, with property listed for chattel as diverse as teams of horses and milk cows, to one such as this - thought the group out there would enjoy reading this. Oct 15 1908: Chatttel mortgage George Herbert KNIGHT of Penetang, book-keeper, to Fanny J. MACKIN of Penetang assistant station agent, $200.00 Int 7% as follows: $25 on principal and interest on amount of principal outstanding from time to time, payable on 15th January, April, July & October of the years 1909 and 1910 of the following household furniture and chattels, contained in dwelling upon part Lot 128 W of Church St Penetang now occupied by mortgagor. Mahogany table, mahogany chair upholstered, mahogany china cabinet with mirror panels, Axminster rug, oak dining table, 6 oak dining chair, Axminster Rug, 1 set china fruit dishes, 1 cut-glass fruit bolw, 3 china jardinieres, 1 set dinner service, 1 cook stove & utensils, 1 oil stove, 1 kitchen table and two chairs, 1 iron & brass bed stead with mattresses & springs, 1 mahogany dresser & 1 mahogany wash stand, one small coal heater. Quite the inventory. I wonder, in case of non-payment, how Miss Mackin would go out seizing the chattel? Take the rug one day, a dinner service the next, perhaps a fruit bowl or two..... Interesting glimpse into life & times of 100 years ago. As you can see, this ledger has all kinds of genealogical hints - occupation, address, date living at said address & at said occupation. Miss Mackin interests me as she holds many mortgages in the years 1907/08. I will be investigating her further the next time I'm at the museum. Hope you find this kind of interesting as well, if not, I apologize for taking up your time - kindly hit the delete button.... Have a great night, one & all ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for the Paul Currier family -I have seen it spelled E'Currier and etc. Love to exchange info. This is the right area Lady Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Campbell" <malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Quite a chattel mortgage > Hi Debra > > This is great. Things like this really tell us how our ancestors lived. > > Thanks very much. > > Malcolm Campbell > > Searching for CURRIE and McDOUGALL on Lagmore Farm, in Simcoe Co. > > -----Original Message----- > From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Deborah Crawford > Sent: January 3, 2008 8:41 PM > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Quite a chattel mortgage > > Just thought I'd pass on a passage that I found interesting in the > conveyancing mortgage book I'm transcribing. Yes, I'm still working on it > - up to 1908 now. Interest rates still hovering about 7% (up from 6 1/2 > from previous years for most mortgages). Many women held mortgages - most > listed as the "wife of so & so", but never the less, the mortgages were > held > > by the wives. Lots of chattel mortgages issued, with property listed for > chattel as diverse as teams of horses and milk cows, to one such as this - > thought the group out there would enjoy reading this. > > Oct 15 1908: Chatttel mortgage George Herbert KNIGHT of Penetang, > book-keeper, to Fanny J. MACKIN of Penetang assistant station agent, > $200.00 > > Int 7% as follows: $25 on principal and interest on amount of principal > outstanding from time to time, payable on 15th January, April, July & > October of the years 1909 and 1910 of the following household furniture > and > chattels, contained in dwelling upon part Lot 128 W of Church St Penetang > now occupied by mortgagor. Mahogany table, mahogany chair upholstered, > mahogany china cabinet with mirror panels, Axminster rug, oak dining > table, > 6 oak dining chair, Axminster Rug, 1 set china fruit dishes, 1 cut-glass > fruit bolw, 3 china jardinieres, 1 set dinner service, 1 cook stove & > utensils, 1 oil stove, 1 kitchen table and two chairs, 1 iron & brass bed > stead with mattresses & springs, 1 mahogany dresser & 1 mahogany wash > stand, > > one small coal heater. > > Quite the inventory. I wonder, in case of non-payment, how Miss Mackin > would go out seizing the chattel? Take the rug one day, a dinner service > the next, perhaps a fruit bowl or two..... > > Interesting glimpse into life & times of 100 years ago. As you can see, > this ledger has all kinds of genealogical hints - occupation, address, > date > living at said address & at said occupation. Miss Mackin interests me as > she holds many mortgages in the years 1907/08. I will be investigating > her > further the next time I'm at the museum. > > Hope you find this kind of interesting as well, if not, I apologize for > taking up your time - kindly hit the delete button.... > > Have a great night, one & all > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a quick note to let listers know that there is a new book by Douglas Skelding detailing the history of the Collingwood Fire Department available at the department offices and at the Collingwood Library. The hardcover book not only has the history of the department, but also details many of the fires, where they occurred, and who was involved. I was pleasantly surprised by all of the names given, and think it would be useful to anyone doing research in the area (family history, architecture, etc.). It has many period photographs as well. John

SIMCOE COUNTY BRANCH, ONTARIO GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY P.O. Box 892, Barrie, Ontario L4M 4Y6 Phone (705) 435-3071 E-mail: chair@simcoebogs.com Website: www.simcoebogs.com I hope that all of you had a happy and safe holiday season. Our next meeting is coming up fast so mark your calendars for Saturday, January 5th when we will be welcoming Ellen Millar from the Simcoe County Archives. We meet at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at 79 Ferris Lane (east of Bayfield Street, south of Cundles Road) in Barrie at 2 p.m. Preview for 2008 for Simcoe County branch meetings February 2nd – Keith Butler from Extreme Imaging – restoring old photographs March 1st – Jane MacNamara – Manorial Records April 12th – Rick Roberts from Global Genealogy – Canadian Military Records Just a reminder to renew your OGS membership. If you wish to renew your membership online, please go to www.ogs.on.ca/membership.php Remember to indicate the branches to which you wish to belong. The annual OGS Conference is in London, Ontario this year on the weekend of May 30th to June 1st. Please see their website at www.ogs.on.ca/conference for further information. The Lost Cousins website is free until January 6th. This is the website where you input all your relatives that are on the 1881 census from England, Wales, United States and Canada and the site connects you with others who have input the same names. I have personally used the site and have had success in connecting with distant relatives. Their website address is www.LostCousins.com Linda Reid from the Toronto branch has advised that the National Archives of Ireland are digitizing their census records. 1911 is available at no charge on the website www.nationalarchives.ie The Toronto branch is presenting a full day on “Keys to Ontario Research” on February 23rd. Please see the following website for further information www.torontofamilyhistory.org/ontariokeys.html “Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least.” --Van Goethe I hope to see you Saturday. Linda Mitchell Chair, Simcoe County branch of OGS

Hello Listers, The Penetanguishene Museum is hosting some of the events for the 60th Winterama in February 2008. One of our board members is assembling a pictorial history of the previous 59 Winteramas. He is interested in meeting and talking to any member of the ULRICHSON family who owned the NORSE Boat Company. He has pictures of the "advanced" model of their scoot but would like more information on the company and the family. Please contact me off list if you can help. For those of you who are shaking their heads, wondering what in the world a *_scoot_* is; it was a unique invention that enabled the operator and passengers to travel on either ice and water. Basically, it was a boat with the motor mounted aft and above the water line - similar to the tour boats used in the Everglades. It ran over the ice but if it encountered open water it proceeded along just like a boat. You can still see a few in operation on Penetang Bay once in a while during the winter. Pam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 4867175 Surnames: Brethet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2578.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi -- Thanks for your message. We are very interested in learning about the Brethet family but are not related to them. As young girls, my mother and my aunt spent two summers staying with the Brethet family in 1941 and 1942 on their farm near Stayner. They have VERY fond memories of their time with them on the farm. I recently came across some photographs of the Brethets (James and his son William) and was wanted to find out a little more about their family to share with my Mom, in particular when they passed away. I noticed some people have posted trees related to them on rootsweb but no details as to their dates of death were posted there. If you are interested in seeing photos of James and his son William please let me know. (Three in total.) Did you know them? I would be interested in any information you might have on James and Isabella and their immediate family. Thanks and thanks again for your message. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Try Google Maps for Simcoe, Norfolk Cty., Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:12 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Head Street > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: spindelpalm > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2579/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Does anyone have any history about Head Street in Simcoe? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message