Hi Pam, In regards to the Special and going from Staynor to Toronto I wonder if he was working at one of the hospitals, rehab centres, light industry, etc.? I have run into several cases, in my military research, that the overseas deployment was held up while they finished out a particular task - be it farming, some industrial work, hospital orderly, etc, etc. Sometimes at the end of the period the person was discharged to go back to his job for the war effort, as a civilian, rather than go overseas. By having him Attest they met the requirements of the Military Services Act and once having fulfilled the requirements could move people around. Not everyone was cut out for overseas and your young man may have been needed more on the home front. Although everyone of a certain age etc. was eligible for conscription they did have some leeway after the requirement was met. One case I remember was a young man, a labourer, who seemed to be in the same circumstances. He had a knack for gardening and being helpful and kind around some of the returning wounded at one of the Toronto hospitals. He was of more value in Toronto than in France. Hope that helps. As Ever, Pat ______________________________________________________________________ Keepers of the Flame www.54thbattalioncef.ca  www.102ndbattalioncef.ca  Patricia A. Rogers       P.O. Box 553 Nelson, B.C.

Pam, The attestation papers are only the front and back of the page filled out when an individual signed up. In order to get the details of his service, you have to order the complete records from LAC. Full records vary from person to person, it is not consistent, but generally you will at the least find the detailed log kept which will show the person's activities during his/her time in the military Thus you should see where he was on various dates, why he was there and when and why he left. For help with this, see FINDING A MILITARY ANCESTOR at The Canadian Military Heritage Project website at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~canmil/ancestor.htm Scroll down the page til you see World War 1 This is a free site Lorine Lorine > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Pam Tessier <[email protected]> > To: Simcoe List <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:07:12 PM > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] military questions > > A few questions for the military buffs out there............. > > - why would SPECIAL be stamped on Attestation papers? > > - fellow enlisted April 1916 according to his Attestation papers. > He was also drafted October 1917and his draft document states he had 6 > months of service as a private previously. He changed residences from > Staynor to Toronto during those months. Why would he have left the > service after 6 months? > > Puzzled Pam > ***************** -- http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ [email protected] Follow my genealogy updates on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS

I don't know whether this will shed any light on the "military question". but thought I would send it anyway. During World War II, a cousin of mine was in the army. He became a Lieutenant in the Royal Canadian Infantry Corp, but at that time they did not have enough men for his position. He as given the option of going on "temporary permanent leave,", until they needed him, or tranferring to the British Army. He chose the British army, and was serving as a CANLOAN Officer with the Durham Light Infantry, when,shortly after D-day he stepped on a mine near Caen, France. He is buried at Hottot-les-Bagues War Cemetery, Calvados, France. Just thought maybe the person you were asking about, might have had a similar option, after his training. If they did this also in World War I. Georgiana

I do not have access to the cemetery stones but here is some info in case you do not have it: Ontario Death Registration No. 015543 Patrick Casserly Died: January 5, 1887 - age 91 Born: Ireland Occupation: Farmer Cause of death: Old age Religion: Roman Catholic ... Cheers! Doreen ======= > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:12:49 -0400 > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Cemetery Lookup Request > > Hello, > > I am looking for a headstone transcription for Patrick CASSERLY who is buried at St. Margaret's of Scotland, Tuam Cemetery in Tecumseth Twp. > > Regards, > Richard Orr > Toronto > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582

Hello, I am looking for a headstone transcription for Patrick CASSERLY who is buried at St. Margaret's of Scotland, Tuam Cemetery in Tecumseth Twp. Regards, Richard Orr Toronto

Edward Poulette (Pouliet) was a young fellow, French Canadian, laborer, born and still living in the same area who stated he was not in the militia. Good answers, Art, that I will keep in mind if I run across SPECIAL again. Thanks, Pam > could have been in the militia..special - maybe spoke german? >

could have been in the militia..special - maybe spoke german? art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Tessier" <[email protected]> To: "Simcoe List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] military questions >A few questions for the military buffs out there............. > > - why would SPECIAL be stamped on Attestation papers? > > - fellow enlisted April 1916 according to his Attestation papers. > He was also drafted October 1917and his draft document states he had 6 > months of service as a private previously. He changed residences from > Staynor to Toronto during those months. Why would he have left the > service after 6 months? > > Puzzled Pam > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A few questions for the military buffs out there............. - why would SPECIAL be stamped on Attestation papers? - fellow enlisted April 1916 according to his Attestation papers. He was also drafted October 1917and his draft document states he had 6 months of service as a private previously. He changed residences from Staynor to Toronto during those months. Why would he have left the service after 6 months? Puzzled Pam

Was he too young to serve and found out? Was he released on compassionate grounds or to do essential work? What were the circumstances of his first discharge? Was he serving a jail sentence? Apologies to his family. Was he given a special assignment when he re-joined?   Joan ----- Original Message ---- From: Pam Tessier <[email protected]> To: Simcoe List <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:07:12 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] military questions A few questions for the military buffs out there............. - why would SPECIAL be stamped on Attestation papers? - fellow enlisted April 1916 according to his Attestation papers. He was also drafted October 1917and his draft document states he had 6 months of service as a private previously. He changed residences from Staynor to Toronto during those months. Why would he have left the service after 6 months? Puzzled Pam ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

I cannot seem to locate the above fellow in the usual records. He was drafted in 1917 and claimed to be the son of Delia PERAULT, born 27th January 1886 in Lafontaine. Delia was living in Victoria Harbour in 1917 and Joseph Daniel was living in Hamilton when he was drafted. I suspect his parents are Delia Forget and Francois Perrault, living in Tay Township in 1901 and earlier in Midland. The baptisms of a few of their children are in the Ste. Croix church records but there is no baptism for a son named Joseph Daniel. Nor is there a birth registration for this child. I'd like to connect him to a local (Penetang area) family, if possible so any help would be appreciated. Pam

In a message dated 6/13/2009 5:44:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Ancestry.com family trees also list their 13 children. Yeah, but shows the mother as Sarah Blakely Yes, it does show the mother as Sarah which is why I wanted to contact the submitter (which I did through Ancestry but have received no reply thus far.) I believe it should be Ann Jane as the mother because the dates cited for Sarah are the correct ones for Ann Jane. Always a mystery involved with genealogy! But the death record states the mother is Eliza Catherine CAMERON, Eliza Catherine, f, March 19, 1934, 82 years 8 months 23 days, Ontario, cause - myocarditis, burial - Sedgewick Alberta, widow, d/o Charles Cross born Ireland & Eliza Catherine blank, born England, infm - Wm T. Cameron of Barrie, son, Vespra Twp (Simcoe Co.) 029554-34 **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

In a message dated 6/13/2009 1:33:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Ancestry.com family trees also list their 13 children. Yeah, but shows the mother as Sarah Blakely Yes, it does show the mother as Sarah which is why I wanted to contact the submitter (which I did through Ancestry but have received no reply thus far.) I believe it should be Ann Jane as the mother because the dates cited for Sarah are the correct ones for Ann Jane. Always a mystery involved with genealogy! **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

In a message dated 6/13/2009 8:37:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Ancestry.com family trees also list their 13 children. Yeah, but shows the mother as Sarah Blakely **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

In a message dated 6/13/2009 3:03:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Is this one of the people you are talking about? Annie in Minnesota CAMERON, Eliza Catherine, f, March 19, 1934, 82 years 8 months 23 days, Ontario, cause - myocarditis, burial - Sedgewick Alberta, widow, d/o Charles Cross born Ireland & Eliza Catherine blank, born England, infm - Wm T. Cameron of Barrie, son, Vespra Twp (Simcoe Co.) 029554-34 Yes, this is the Eliza I was talking about. Now that I know she is "mine" I have found the above as well as her marriage to Donald in 1867 and also the death of Donald. Ancestry.com family trees also list their 13 children. Donald died in Alberta in 1918. Eliza died in Barrie but is buried in Alberta (I presume with Donald). Patt **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

Is this one of the people you are talking about? Annie in Minnesota CAMERON, Eliza Catherine, f, March 19, 1934, 82 years 8 months 23 days, Ontario, cause - myocarditis, burial - Sedgewick Alberta, widow, d/o Charles Cross born Ireland & Eliza Catherine blank, born England, infm - Wm T. Cameron of Barrie, son, Vespra Twp (Simcoe Co.) 029554-34 In a message dated 6/12/2009 10:09:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Some years ago I was researching the Cross family of Oro. Charles Cross who married Ann Jane Blakely. Charles was the father of my husbands great grandmother, Sarah Fox. Someone on this list asked if there was any relation to Eliza Cross Cameron of Alberta. At the time I had no knowledge of Eliza so could not make a connection. Now that the 1861 census is available on line I have discovered Eliza! And sure enough, she is the sister of my Sarah. If that person is still on the list would like to connect with them...........or anyone else who is researching the CROSS/CAMERON line. Patt Foley **************Shop Dell’s full line of Laptops now starting at $349! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221881320x1201406166/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2 Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218036%3B37264217%3Bz) ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: penguin1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/2671.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes of course - he is William H. Martin who was born in Ponsanooth, Cornwall in 1834 - he married Abigail Hill around 1858 in Toronto - first place of residence was Vaughn township then to Barrie, Bell Ewart, Innisifl and Thornton. I have found the original family on 1851 English census - William H.Martin married Mary Ann Paul- sons were William,James, Edward and George - no mention of daughter but in my great grandfather's obit in Ontario mentioned sister Mrs. Hugh McDonald. Mary Ann RosaS nee Martin in theUS. - I also belong to Ancestry in US - Abigail Hill was daughter of George Hill and Jane Reid m. 1838 Toronto. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Some years ago I was researching the Cross family of Oro. Charles Cross who married Ann Jane Blakely. Charles was the father of my husbands great grandmother, Sarah Fox. Someone on this list asked if there was any relation to Eliza Cross Cameron of Alberta. At the time I had no knowledge of Eliza so could not make a connection. Now that the 1861 census is available on line I have discovered Eliza! And sure enough, she is the sister of my Sarah. If that person is still on the list would like to connect with them...........or anyone else who is researching the CROSS/CAMERON line. Patt Foley **************Shop Dell’s full line of Laptops now starting at $349! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221881320x1201406166/aol?redir=http:%2F%2 Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218036%3B37264217%3Bz)

Churchville Cemetery has been transcribed by Halton Peel OGS. Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul and Ruth Robins <[email protected]> To: 'Kenneth Calder' <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Churchville, Ontario --- Peel County. > And THAT, as they say, IS PROGRESS !!!!!!!!! > IT IS ENOUGH TO BRING TEARS TO YOUR EYES. > > Thanks Goodness, Ruth and I found it, along about 1994, from a small > black-and-white snapshot, taken in 1947, and the 1857 plaque, over the > central window. > > Thanks for the photos . particularly the '70's copy. Guard it well. > > Paul > > _____ > > From: Kenneth Calder [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: June-10-09 5:35 PM > To: paul robins; fowke kenneth; Joan Phillips > Subject: Churchville > > > I recently passed through Churchville on my way to the annual OGS conference > in Oakville. I am happy to report that the cemetery is well kept and our > numerous family tombstones are still standing, although they are getting > harder to read. I also noted that the part of the tombstone of Alexander > Robert that used to be beside Robert's tombstone is no longer to be found. > > We also visited the Calder farm where the news is not so good. Everything > save the house Charles built in 1857 has been torn down and it faces the > same fate. The farm is to become part of Brampton's suburbia, covered in > 'estate homes'. I attach photos, one taken in the 70's and a few I took > this time. > > Cheers > Ken Calder > > To the subscribers of the " SIMCOE LIST" , The house , in question, was > built by our 2G-Grandfather, Charles Calder , in 1857 .....now slated for > demolition. It was still inhabited, when we last saw it.The Calders came to > Peel County, in 1816, from New Hampshire, U,S.A., where Charles' > Grandfather, Robert, had been a Secretary/ Gardener, Confident, of the Last > Royal Governor of New Hampshire, John Wentworth. Everybody's world fell > apart, in 1775 !!!!!!! > > Paul Robins > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbdale_1 Surnames: Kenwell Potts Sanderson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.simcoe/438.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe William Kenwell was the son of Robert Kenwell and Rachel Lowry. Her parents were Charles Lowry and Margaret Sanderson, and Roberts parents were Joseph and Jane Kenwell. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

And THAT, as they say, IS PROGRESS !!!!!!!!! IT IS ENOUGH TO BRING TEARS TO YOUR EYES. Thanks Goodness, Ruth and I found it, along about 1994, from a small black-and-white snapshot, taken in 1947, and the 1857 plaque, over the central window. Thanks for the photos . particularly the '70's copy. Guard it well. Paul _____ From: Kenneth Calder [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: June-10-09 5:35 PM To: paul robins; fowke kenneth; Joan Phillips Subject: Churchville I recently passed through Churchville on my way to the annual OGS conference in Oakville. I am happy to report that the cemetery is well kept and our numerous family tombstones are still standing, although they are getting harder to read. I also noted that the part of the tombstone of Alexander Robert that used to be beside Robert's tombstone is no longer to be found. We also visited the Calder farm where the news is not so good. Everything save the house Charles built in 1857 has been torn down and it faces the same fate. The farm is to become part of Brampton's suburbia, covered in 'estate homes'. I attach photos, one taken in the 70's and a few I took this time. Cheers Ken Calder To the subscribers of the " SIMCOE LIST" , The house , in question, was built by our 2G-Grandfather, Charles Calder , in 1857 .....now slated for demolition. It was still inhabited, when we last saw it.The Calders came to Peel County, in 1816, from New Hampshire, U,S.A., where Charles' Grandfather, Robert, had been a Secretary/ Gardener, Confident, of the Last Royal Governor of New Hampshire, John Wentworth. Everybody's world fell apart, in 1775 !!!!!!! Paul Robins