Could someone send me the postal code for the above cemetery, please.? Am having trouble finding it on line. Annie in Minnesota

Hi Heather, SMITH, Geo, 1850-1923 his wife , Martha, 1849-1925 , Annie 1892-1918 , Zella 1883-1907 Hope this is the one you're looking for. Regards, Chris N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Bertram" <[email protected]> To: "SIMCOE LIST" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Elmvale Presbyterian Cemetery > Hi all > > Does anyone have the transcript for Elmvale Presbyterian Cemetery? > > I am looking for George Smith 1850 - 1923 and his wife Martha Drysdale > 1849 - 1925, and anyone else who may be in there with them. > > (Please note: I already have their registrations.) > > TIA > > Heather Bertram > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

999 Queen St. West was a standing joke as you say Jani. Yep if you did anything off the wall you were going to 999 Queen St. Everything today is to get them fixed and out in a day it seems. A stay in hosp to have a baby was 10 days...Now it's like 24 hrs. It's sad mentally ill are living on the streets. Sanitorium/Instution whatever the label I wasn't aware the one on Hamilton Mountain use to house TB patients until I did my family tree and discovered my mom was a patient there for 2 years. I wish those records was online. xoxo Sandy From: Jani Carless <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] With reference to - WILLIAMS, William Elwood & SCOTT, George Buster To: Simcoe List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Paul and Pam, I lived in west end Toronto in the late '60s. Twice daily I passed this sad place on the streetcar, to and from work. Red Brick, flat fronted, and turn-of-the-century institutional-looking, it is forever etched in my memory. Of course, the sorry joke in Toronto at the time, if one did anything odd or mistaken, was that they would be sent to '999' (Queen St. West). Even sadder was the closing of many of these institutions (however inadequate), including '999', by the Harris government in the early 1990's, forcing many very ill people to live under bridges. But now I am getting into political comment and beyond the scope of this list. Regards Jani

Hi all Does anyone have the transcript for Elmvale Presbyterian Cemetery? I am looking for George Smith 1850 - 1923 and his wife Martha Drysdale 1849 - 1925, and anyone else who may be in there with them. (Please note: I already have their registrations.) TIA Heather Bertram

John,   If you could make your way to either the Land Registry Office for Simcoe County or the Provincial Archives in Toronto and look at the Abstract Index for Concession 10 Lot 2 Essa Township you would find out how they acquired the lot.  The index will list all the activity on the lot from the time it was patented by the Crown to the most current date that is available.  At both locations the index will be on microfilm that you can freely access.  As well, at both locations there are staff that can help you.  The benefit of going to the source, is the other documents that go hand in hand with the land records.  If you're lucky, sometimes there are more interesting comments and documents (ie wills) noted on the index.  It's worth the treck.   PS. There is an excellent book "A Guide to Ontario Land Registry Records" out out by the Ontario Genealogical Society in 1994 that explains the process and documents well.  Also, the May 2007 issue of SCAN, the quarterly publication of the Simcoe County Branch of the Ontario Genealogial Society explained these land documents as they pertain to Simcoe County.  It's on the shelves at both the Barrie Public Library and the North York Public Library.    Hope this helps, Nancy   --- On Sun, 8/9/09, John Ausman <[email protected]> wrote: From: John Ausman <[email protected]> Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Essa Township To: [email protected] Received: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 1:55 PM Hello folks: I just joined this list and am wondering if anyone is familiar with early pioneers in Essa. I am researching the (Alexander, then John) Stewart family that settled on Concession 10 Lot 2.   Would anyone know when that area was first settled? I found no land petitions for a Stewart in Essa Twp in the Land records at the National Archives. Does this mean that at some point people just bought land without petitioning the colonial govermnment for it?   John ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 1861 Canadian Census for Essa Township, Simcoe County shows an Alexander Stewart, born about 1859 in Upper Canada, religion was Episcopal. Details can be found in Archives Canada film No. C-1072. Perhaps they did not own the land but instead were tenant farmers. Cheers! Doreen ======== > Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:55:12 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Essa Township > > Hello folks: I just joined this list and am wondering if anyone is familiar with early pioneers in Essa. I am researching the (Alexander, then John) Stewart family that settled on Concession 10 Lot 2. > > Would anyone know when that area was first settled? I found no land petitions for a Stewart in Essa Twp in the Land records at the National Archives. Does this mean that at some point people just bought land without petitioning the colonial govermnment for it? > > John > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047

Hello John, I use the following site. www.waynecook.com/zessa.html Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ausman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Essa Township Hello folks: I just joined this list and am wondering if anyone is familiar with early pioneers in Essa. I am researching the (Alexander, then John) Stewart family that settled on Concession 10 Lot 2. Would anyone know when that area was first settled? I found no land petitions for a Stewart in Essa Twp in the Land records at the National Archives. Does this mean that at some point people just bought land without petitioning the colonial govermnment for it? John ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Richard. Interesting, but unfortunately no mention of my Stewart. John --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Richard Orr <[email protected]> wrote: From: Richard Orr <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Essa Township To: [email protected] Received: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 2:06 PM Hello John, I use the following site. www.waynecook.com/zessa.html Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ausman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Essa Township Hello folks: I just joined this list and am wondering if anyone is familiar with early pioneers in Essa. I am researching the (Alexander, then John) Stewart family that settled on Concession 10 Lot 2. Would anyone know when that area was first settled? I found no land petitions for a Stewart in Essa Twp in the Land records at the National Archives. Does this mean that at some point people just bought land without petitioning the colonial govermnment for it? John ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello folks: I just joined this list and am wondering if anyone is familiar with early pioneers in Essa. I am researching the (Alexander, then John) Stewart family that settled on Concession 10 Lot 2.   Would anyone know when that area was first settled? I found no land petitions for a Stewart in Essa Twp in the Land records at the National Archives. Does this mean that at some point people just bought land without petitioning the colonial govermnment for it?   John

Hi Paul and Pam, I lived in west end Toronto in the late '60s. Twice daily I passed this sad place on the streetcar, to and from work. Red Brick, flat fronted, and turn-of-the-century institutional-looking, it is forever etched in my memory. Of course, the sorry joke in Toronto at the time, if one did anything odd or mistaken, was that they would be sent to '999' (Queen St. West). Even sadder was the closing of many of these institutions (however inadequate), including '999', by the Harris government in the early 1990's, forcing many very ill people to live under bridges. But now I am getting into political comment and beyond the scope of this list. Regards Jani > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:05:08 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] With reference to - WILLIAMS, William Elwood & SCOTT, George Buster > > Hi Paul, > > I was not familiar with the place until another lister told me what was > at that address. Not all of us grew up in or are familiar with Toronto, > you know! ;-) > Dorothy Scott may have been an inmate but as the other fellow, Williams, > married her in 1919, I hope her affliction (if there was one) was cured > by then. > > Pam > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive email from all of your webmail accounts. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671356

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colleen Andrews Sent: August-05-09 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Native people on census Yes, I've been wondering that too....wondering if an 1861 white censustaker would even know the difference between light-skinned "mulatto" & mixed-blood Native. 2009/8/5 Nicki Harper <[email protected]> An interesting discussion !!!!!!! Coming from a Pure White, and Protestant Corner of Ontario, the first non-white that I ever encountered was a Japanese-Canadian, Shigaro, who with his Family had been displaced from the West Coast, in 1942. We became good friends, for the short time that he was in Ontario. The first coloured teenagers, with whom I crossed paths, were "Hostellers", on bicycles, passing thru' Shanty Bay, Ontario. The two girls, light-skinned, as I remember, were the most gorgeous creatures, that God ever graced his Green earth with !!! Their companions, two boys, were somewhat darker. One had blonde hair, and the other red hair, both natural, not coloured. The date was 1947-1948. It was an experience that has remained with me, all these years. We have a Great-Grandchild, of mixed blood, a happy little guy, who fits in well with his 12 cousins ( on our side ), of Italian, Austrian, Hungarian, Dutch, English, Irish, and Scottish Ancestry. Have to go . The kitten just stepped on my keyboard, and erased a lot of what I intended to say .......... The old Census taker perhaps didn't have the opportunities opened up to later Generatiions. Paul Robins

I found this interesting link via Google today: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~afgs/givenname.html It includes several names that can be found among my Harringtons & descendants, that I thought were unique: Parmelia or Milly (Parmelie), Melissa or Milly (Melise), Sophronia (Sophie), Delia, Flora (Flavie).

Colleen: Contact me off list, My wife is related to the Tegarts through the Milligans. Also I can redirect you to other info Ron Makin, UE Etobicoke, [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Andrews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Mt. Tegart Cemetery records > I've just discovered that my Mary (Vallad) Harrington's 3rd husband James > Tegart was actually James Montgomery Tegart (1800-1881), who was > apparently > an important person in Simcoe Co. Also there is a Mary Tegart buried in > Mt. > Tegart Methodist Cemetery in Tecumseth, where James is with his first > wife. > I'm wondering if it's the same person. Does anyone have access to this > cemetery transcription? > > Thanks, > Colleen > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just discovered that my Mary (Vallad) Harrington's 3rd husband James Tegart was actually James Montgomery Tegart (1800-1881), who was apparently an important person in Simcoe Co. Also there is a Mary Tegart buried in Mt. Tegart Methodist Cemetery in Tecumseth, where James is with his first wife. I'm wondering if it's the same person. Does anyone have access to this cemetery transcription? Thanks, Colleen

Hi 999 Queen St not only had people with mental disorders in it. In the 50's and possibly even later the Toronto Children's Aid Society used it as a dumping ground for the kid's that they had run out of resources' for. The theory behind that was that if they could not get along in foster homes they had a mental problem. It was either that or they were charged as incorrigible and sent to Reform School which was an actual prison for under 21's. The kids that were sent to Queen St were there until they "behaved" with punishments of hydro therapy (being tied into a bath tub full of water) or electric shock treatment. The majority of these kids were at the rebellious age of 12 to 16 years old. The kids that went to the reform school were usually kept there until they were 21 and of course by that time they learned all the things that they shouldn't of. This was not generally known and most that this happened to kept it a secret due to the stigma attached. But it is a fact. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul and Ruth Robins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:56 PM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] With reference to - WILLIAMS,William Elwood & SCOTT, George Buster > Pam .......... No known connection . > The assumption is, of course, that you know ( BUT OTHERS MAY > NOT ) that 999 Queen Street, Toronto, was an Insane Asylum, for the > Mentally > Deficient. In was still in existence, in the mid, and late 1960's. I had > occasion to be thru' it, at that time. > The lady, in question, may have been an Inmate, or possibly a > nurse, or paid employee, altho' I doubt that employees were residents, or > had that given address. > > Paul Robins > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Tessier > Sent: August-03-09 11:40 AM > To: Simcoe List > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] WILLIAMS, William Elwood & SCOTT, George Buster > > Does anyone have connections to either of these two men? > > WILLIAMS, William Elwood > born 17 August 1896 in Tottenham, ON > father Arthur Williams > mother:Margaret McMullen Williams living at 992 Queen St., Toronto in 1915 > Salesman in Toronto in 1915 Carpenter in Toronto in 1919 married 1 > November > 1919 Dorothy Scott born abt. 1897 in Penetanguishene to David and Sarah > Sparling > ------------------------------------ > > SCOTT, George Buster > born 17 August 1895 in Penetanguishene > sister: Miss Doherty Scott of 999 Queen St., Toronto Salesman in Toronto > in > 1916 In the active militia in 1916 > > Thanks, > > Pam > ***************** > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marg

Hi Janice, I was wondering if you would be interested in coming and speaking at our OGS meeting? It wouldn't be until late spring next year, so lots of warning and topic can be of your choice. We may also do brickwalls around that time so you may want to do something along that line. Or perhaps promote the booklet you wrote? ... Open to suggestions. Thanks Marg Aldridge

Hi Paul, I was not familiar with the place until another lister told me what was at that address. Not all of us grew up in or are familiar with Toronto, you know! ;-) Dorothy Scott may have been an inmate but as the other fellow, Williams, married her in 1919, I hope her affliction (if there was one) was cured by then. Pam

The French name is Marie PARMELIA. Pam (Pamela in Enlgish, Parmelia en Francais) > so maybe Permilla was > a skewed version of that (or vice-versa), although again, does not sound > French. > > >

Pam .......... No known connection . The assumption is, of course, that you know ( BUT OTHERS MAY NOT ) that 999 Queen Street, Toronto, was an Insane Asylum, for the Mentally Deficient. In was still in existence, in the mid, and late 1960's. I had occasion to be thru' it, at that time. The lady, in question, may have been an Inmate, or possibly a nurse, or paid employee, altho' I doubt that employees were residents, or had that given address. Paul Robins -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Tessier Sent: August-03-09 11:40 AM To: Simcoe List Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] WILLIAMS, William Elwood & SCOTT, George Buster Does anyone have connections to either of these two men? WILLIAMS, William Elwood born 17 August 1896 in Tottenham, ON father Arthur Williams mother:Margaret McMullen Williams living at 992 Queen St., Toronto in 1915 Salesman in Toronto in 1915 Carpenter in Toronto in 1919 married 1 November 1919 Dorothy Scott born abt. 1897 in Penetanguishene to David and Sarah Sparling ------------------------------------ SCOTT, George Buster born 17 August 1895 in Penetanguishene sister: Miss Doherty Scott of 999 Queen St., Toronto Salesman in Toronto in 1916 In the active militia in 1916 Thanks, Pam *****************