AH !!!!!! I LOVE THESE EXCHANGES ......... It gives me a chance to look-back, and reminisce !!!! In 1950, when I began work in the Bank of Toronto, in Barrie, UNDERHILL'S was (still) a major account, but, I gather from what I learned, was in trouble ...... Particularly in the Management. WITH THAT, AND NEW COMPETITORS, I suspect that they were in their early death throes. Manufacturers of (primarily) work shoes, I imagine that the New Boys, in the Market, BATA among them, were creating agony. Blake Underhill was (I believe) the C.E.O. I remember him , in and out, of the Managers Office, on a regular basis. I remember, also, overhearing the Bank Manager, Russ Nettleton, dictating a letter to Head Office ... " Well, the Underhill Boys are at it again !!!! " Russ Nettleton's Home, on the South-West Corner of Wellington and Bayfield, is now the parking lot for Bell Telephone !!! One hot August AFTERNOON, back in 1949, or so, Underhill's left the outside door, on the main floor, off Dunlop East, open, to create an air flow, thru' the factory. Several kids went in and had a lot of fun, playing with the time card punch-clock , and the time cards. EVERYBODY drew a full week's pay, that week !!!!!!! Just to the East, almost beside Cotty's, was a vacant lot, and the remnants of a foundation. The lot was on, I believe, Kempenfeldt Drive. It remained vacant until fairly recent times. The lot was said to be contaminated, having been the site of the old Barrie Gas Light Company . I am assuming ACETYLENE . The lot was eventually excavated, cleaned up, and now is home to a Zillion Dollar Home, overlooking Kempenfeldt Bay. As to the fill, in what is now Lakeshore Drive, a contract was let for back-fill, between the C.N.R. Railway tracks, and the water's edge. It was possible to drive, over a truck path, from Bayfield to Victoria, as early as 1958 .... I once beat my boss, back to work, using this route, while he went thru' town. We were going to the Clarke and Clarke Tannery, which was opposite Centennial Park, now the site of two Apartment/condo buildings. It is said that one of the original contractors, on the fill, went broke, for the want of another FIVE CENTS A TON ! What does five cents buy today :-) Thanks for the chance to reminisce ! Paul Robins -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Wingrove Sent: August-28-09 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Cotty's/Lakeview Dairy/Shoe Factory When my mother left Barrie I purchased several history books of Barrie and Simcoe Co. for her. "Beautiful Barrie The City and Its People," is a beautiful pictorial history of Barrie. I purchased it at the Museum. "The Underhill Shoe Company was in the process of relocating from Aurora to Barrie , bringing with it 75 to 125 jobs, much to the chagrin of Aurora.(the year was 1913).... "The decade saw the establishment of two durable industrial enterprises in Barrie: Underhill Shoes and the Fisher Mill. On October 21, 1912, work began to transform the Spencer Industrials building on Dunlop Street into a modern shoe factory. Underhills Limited purchased the property for $1500 or $150 a year for 10 years, interest free. Under the agreement with the town, the company was expected to employ 75, be manufacturing by February 1, 1913, and continue in business in Barrie until November 1, 1921, by which time it was to have invested at least $7,000 in the plant. From January 1, 1914, the firm was to employ at least 75 workers for 300 days of 10 hours each a year and pay at least $30, 000 in wages. In july 17, the company closed its Aurora factory, doubling its staff and payroll in Barrie. Underhills would manufacture shoes in the same plant in Barrie until the late 1950s. On page 195 of the book there is a picture of the factory. Ron Wingrove

Colleen, Thanks a million, you have given me a direction to look at and a reason why. I am trying to look up the Armitages who were originally from Ireland, but England had been coming up and I had been saying "No, that is the wrong line". My mother just told me that my GGparents were married in England, SO... Sharon

Colleen, The Irish who went to England who emigrated to the Americas, does that POSSIBLY include those Irish who went to Canada (Ontario and Quebec mostly)? Sharon

Sharon, do you know when they were married? You can check for the index entry in the England marriage registers at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com. England's civil registration started in 1837 so it's likely there....it would give you an approx. location & an index entry to send away for the actual marriage certificate. Have you found their passenger list? It would say which port they left from....if they came before 1865 though the lists are much less likely to be found. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > Colleen, > Thanks a million, you have given me a direction to look at and a reason > why. > I am trying to look up the Armitages who were originally from Ireland, but > England had been coming up and I had been saying "No, that is the wrong > line". My mother just told me that my GGparents were married in England, > SO... > Sharon > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just to clear this up - are you referring to Scarborough, Ontario? Rob -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Catt Sent: August-28-09 10:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in 1830 or so? On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] sent: > Just a thought. > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in the area of > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). > Joan ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not certain, but I think so....it was cheaper to emigrate to Canada than the US, & cheaper to leave from Liverpool than Ireland, for reasons I can't remember....this is the reason many Irish emigrants to the USA came via Canada...it was cheaper. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > Colleen, > The Irish who went to England who emigrated to the Americas, does that > POSSIBLY include those Irish who went to Canada (Ontario and Quebec > mostly)? > Sharon > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think most Irish who went to England went to the Liverpool area, since apparently it was cheaper to emigrate from Liverpool. Sometimes they had to work a year or so before they could afford to leave. But Scarborough is on the other side of the country from Liverpool. 2009/8/28 R & S Jardine <[email protected]> > Yes, Armagh is in Ireland. > > However, many Irish sailed from England, or had emigrated to England before > deciding to move to the Americas.... > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colleen Andrews <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:48 pm > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > > > Armagh is in Ireland, not England..... > > > > > > > > 2009/8/28 R & S Jardine <[email protected]> > > > > > hi Joan, > > > > > > I am not sure. They married in Armagh in 1842 and were in > > Tecumseth by the > > > 1851 Census. > > > > > > In between - ? > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Catt <[email protected]> > > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:41 am > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > > > > > > > Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in > > > > 1830 or so? > > > > > > > > On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] > > sent:> > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in > > > > the area of > > > > > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). > > > > > Joan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > > > > http://tr.im/hBAy > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > > http://tr.im/hBAy> > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > > http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Keep in mind that during the famine there were many Irish who were moved to England. Some left from there for Canada or USA, others returned to Ireland and left from there. Some online reading material on this subject: http://www.genealogical.com/products/Scotch-Irish%20Settlers%20in%20America/7276.html http://www.yourirish.com/irish-diaspora-history.htm http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1800-1820.shtml http://www.history.ac.uk/ihr/Focus/welfare/articles/crossmanv.html Cheers! Doreen ======== _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047

Armagh is in Ireland, not England..... 2009/8/28 R & S Jardine <[email protected]> > hi Joan, > > I am not sure. They married in Armagh in 1842 and were in Tecumseth by the > 1851 Census. > > In between - ? > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catt <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:41 am > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > > > Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in > > 1830 or so? > > > > On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] sent: > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in > > the area of > > > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). > > > Joan > > > > > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > > http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When my mother left Barrie I purchased several history books of Barrie and Simcoe Co. for her. "Beautiful Barrie The City and Its People," is a beautiful pictorial history of Barrie. I purchased it at the Museum. "The Underhill Shoe Company was in the process of relocating from Aurora to Barrie , bringing with it 75 to 125 jobs, much to the chagrin of Aurora.(the year was 1913).... "The decade saw the establishment of two durable industrial enterprises in Barrie: Underhill Shoes and the Fisher Mill. On October 21, 1912, work began to transform the Spencer Industrials building on Dunlop Street into a modern shoe factory. Underhills Limited purchased the property for $1500 or $150 a year for 10 years, interest free. Under the agreement with the town, the company was expected to employ 75, be manufacturing by February 1, 1913, and continue in business in Barrie until November 1, 1921, by which time it was to have invested at least $7,000 in the plant. From January 1, 1914, the firm was to employ at least 75 workers for 300 days of 10 hours each a year and pay at least $30, 000 in wages. In july 17, the company closed its Aurora factory, doubling its staff and payroll in Barrie. Underhills would manufacture shoes in the same plant in Barrie until the late 1950s. On page 195 of the book there is a picture of the factory. Ron Wingrove -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin & Nancy Caldwell Sent: August-28-09 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Cotty's/Lakeview Dairy/Shoe Factory The old shoe factory housed commercial businesses later, including a furniture restoration(1950-1970) and most recent Canadiana Curtains in the 1980's, but the building was always referred to as the shoe factory. I remember as a kid, sitting on the rocks below it, watching the fireworks, finding a perfectly round 1" stone, wedged between the rocks. Might have been used in the factory. What totally amazes me still, is that the original water's edge, around the bay followed the traintracks, and that most of the parkland along the waterfront from Heritage park to Centennial Beach was created by trucking in fill/rocks, etc. This is what I was told as a kid. Can anyone verify this? What a huge undertaking, especially for back then. Nancy ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Armagh is in Ireland. However, many Irish sailed from England, or had emigrated to England before deciding to move to the Americas.... Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Andrews <[email protected]> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:48 pm Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > Armagh is in Ireland, not England..... > > > > 2009/8/28 R & S Jardine <[email protected]> > > > hi Joan, > > > > I am not sure. They married in Armagh in 1842 and were in > Tecumseth by the > > 1851 Census. > > > > In between - ? > > > > Rob > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Catt <[email protected]> > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:41 am > > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > > > > > Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in > > > 1830 or so? > > > > > > On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] > sent:> > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in > > > the area of > > > > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). > > > > Joan > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > > > http://tr.im/hBAy > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy> > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

hi Joan, I am not sure. They married in Armagh in 1842 and were in Tecumseth by the 1851 Census. In between - ? Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Catt <[email protected]> Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:41 am Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in > 1830 or so? > > On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] sent: > > Just a thought. > > > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in > the area of > > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). > >   Joan > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in 1830 or so? On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] sent: > Just a thought. > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in the area of > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). >   Joan

A tragic tale. A sick soldier returns to his family, gives his wife TB, then dies later of it himself. On Fri 28/08/09 10:36 AM , Pam Tessier [email protected] sent: > One of the things we mention in our courses at the museum, is to go > > beyond the cold hard data and discover the story of an ancestor's life - > > to read between the lines and 'live' their life.

One of the things we mention in our courses at the museum, is to go beyond the cold hard data and discover the story of an ancestor's life - to read between the lines and 'live' their life. Earl Daniel Stacey was born in Tiny Township on the 13th of January 1893 to Thomas Stacey and his wife Arletta Jane Brunson. When Dan was just 14 months old, his father Thomas died of heart failure, leaving a wife and 9 children on the farm. Shortly after Thomas' death, Dan's mother married George Smith and the family moved to Midland. The marriage produced half-siblings for Dan but by 1906 Arletta, again a widow, had married Gideon Cripps and moved to Penetanguishene. In his first 13 years of life, Dan had called three different men 'Father' and moved at least three times. By age 18 years in 1911, Dan was no longer in school and working in a sawmill. At age 20 in 1913, Dan married 18 year old Eva Beaudoin, a Penetanguishene girl. In the next 3 years she gavee birth to 2 stillborn children and another child who lived but 4 short days. In February of 1916, just 2 short weeks after the stillbirth of their third child, Dan enlisted in the army. He was considered fit for service and shipped overseas. Sometime later he was "invalided back to Canada for further medical treatment". His service records would probably reveal exactly the illness that caused the army to send him home, but it was likely "miliary tuberculosis". This was the disease listed on Eva's death registration when she died in April 1918, after a short illness. It is not known if Dan was in Canada when she died but her residence was given as the American Hotel in Penetanguishene. Almost exactly 1 year after her death, Dan married Margaret Kingston. She became a widow when Dan died in 1920 at age 27 years, only 14 months after their marriage, of "tuberculosis of lungs". The registration states he was a returned soldier and had the disease for 3 years. Earl Daniel Stacey is the only soldier I have located to date who died and was buried in Canada yet was given the same honours as any other soldier who gave his life for his country in World War 1. He is commemorated on Page 553 of the First World War Book of Remembrance. Pam

The old shoe factory housed commercial businesses later, including a furniture restoration(1950-1970) and most recent Canadiana Curtains in the 1980's, but the building was always referred to as the shoe factory. I remember as a kid, sitting on the rocks below it, watching the fireworks, finding a perfectly round 1" stone, wedged between the rocks. Might have been used in the factory. What totally amazes me still, is that the original water's edge, around the bay followed the traintracks, and that most of the parkland along the waterfront from Heritage park to Centennial Beach was created by trucking in fill/rocks, etc. This is what I was told as a kid. Can anyone verify this? What a huge undertaking, especially for back then. Nancy

Just a thought. The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in the area of Shallow Lake. (Indexed).   Joan ----- Original Message ---- From: Heather Bertram <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:00:28 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion The local papers quite often had articles about the wounded or those that died overseas. Heather -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert & Shawna Jardine Sent: August 27, 2009 10:55 PM To: Simcoe List; Grey County List Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion Hi, I am wondering if any listers have any connections to/knowledge of soldiers who served in the 38th Battalion of the CEF during WW1? I am researching my great-uncle, John Sammiel Hall, who was killed Aug 10, 1918 near Hallu, France. He was born 22 Mar 1895 in Shallow Lake, the son of John and Margaret Hall. His sister, Myrtle, was my grandmother. The family had moved from Tecumseth in the early 1890s. I have his personnel file and a copy of his entry in the unit's casualty report. However, I am hoping against hope that someone has a letter in their collections that might mention him (eg, as a friend in the unit, etc.) At the time of his death he was serving with "D" Company. I know this is a long shot, but I would love to round out his story... Thanks, Robert H. Jardine ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

The local papers quite often had articles about the wounded or those that died overseas. Heather -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert & Shawna Jardine Sent: August 27, 2009 10:55 PM To: Simcoe List; Grey County List Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion Hi, I am wondering if any listers have any connections to/knowledge of soldiers who served in the 38th Battalion of the CEF during WW1? I am researching my great-uncle, John Sammiel Hall, who was killed Aug 10, 1918 near Hallu, France. He was born 22 Mar 1895 in Shallow Lake, the son of John and Margaret Hall. His sister, Myrtle, was my grandmother. The family had moved from Tecumseth in the early 1890s. I have his personnel file and a copy of his entry in the unit's casualty report. However, I am hoping against hope that someone has a letter in their collections that might mention him (eg, as a friend in the unit, etc.) At the time of his death he was serving with "D" Company. I know this is a long shot, but I would love to round out his story... Thanks, Robert H. Jardine ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have been a few days away from reading the recent mailings to this list ! Am following, with interest, the discussions on the "dit" names. Fortunately, ( or unfortunately ), depending upon your persuasion, I have no "dit" names in my Ancestry, BUT .... have a litany of Smiths, Jones, and Browns, to cope with :-) Do I assume, correctly, that "dit" can be translated as ' KNOWN AS ' ......... TO SIGNIFY SO-AND-SO, separately from others of the same given surname . I don`t believe that English Monikers, made it into official records, but it might have helped some. Might have been easier to trace the movements of STINKY SMITH , than simple old Bill Smith :-) Keep up the `Good WORKS` , Folks .......... this is an interesting site, Paul Robins

Hi List Again with the incredible help of family and friends (camera didnt have time to collect dust) we were able to photograph St Johns Anglican Cemetery in Waverley, Tay Twp....please send any requests offlist...many thanx Ciao for now Heide Barrie, On _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047