Ancestry farmed the Drouin out to the Chinese to index......With their unique way of talking English, no wonder the index is flawed.......   Shar --- On Sun, 8/30/09, Colleen Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Andrews <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection & Ancestry problems To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 10:45 AM The Chinese? They probably mean the horrible job Ancestry did of indexing Drouin....Ancestry's indexing has never been great in English, but in French it's even worse. And they don't bother to actually read the entries...most Drouin records have an abbreviated form of the person's name in the margin & the full name in the entry, but Ancestry only indexes the abbreviated form, & frequently gets it wrong. Among other things, I've seen "Marg.," short for Marguerite, indexed as "Mary" over & over. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlene Bell-Haussmann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection & Ancestry problems Dang, I didn't realize how addictive the Drouin was until I couldn't access it yesterday.....It is a lifeline to our ancestors. Do they mean the lack of indexing as meaning the different unique ways the Chinease spell the names? Sharlene ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a response to the problem as posted in the Quebec-Research list: "As you might all know, the Institut généalogique Drouin took The Generation Network Inc. into arbitration over the lack of full and proper indexation of the Drouin Collection put on-line by Ancestry. > > On the 12th of August 2009, the juge(sic) name to arbitrate this case > sided with Drouin, and declared that Ancestry has failed in its > contractual obligation to properly and fully index the database prior to publication and since publication. The decision grants 60 (days) to TGN to remedy the situation. > > Should they fail to do so, the license granted by the Institut Drouin will > lapse. > > ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dang, I didn't realize how addictive the Drouin was until I couldn't access it yesterday.....It is a lifeline to our ancestors.    Do they mean the lack of indexing as meaning the different unique ways the Chinease spell the names?   Sharlene ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a response to the problem as posted in the Quebec-Research list: "As you might all know, the Institut généalogique Drouin took The Generation Network Inc. into arbitration over the lack of full and proper indexation of the Drouin Collection put on-line by Ancestry. > > On the 12th of August 2009, the juge(sic) name to arbitrate this case sided with Drouin, and declared that Ancestry has failed in its contractual obligation to properly and fully index the database prior to publication and since publication. The decision grants 60 (days) to TGN to remedy the situation. > > Should they fail to do so, the license granted by the Institut Drouin will lapse. > >

There have been some questions raised recently about difficulty with accessing the Drouin Collection on Ancestry. Here is a response to the problem as posted in the Quebec-Research list: "As you might all know, the Institut généalogique Drouin took The Generation Network Inc. into arbitration over the lack of full and proper indexation of the Drouin Collection put on-line by Ancestry. > > On the 12th of August 2009, the juge(sic) name to arbitrate this case sided with Drouin, and declared that Ancestry has failed in its contractual obligation to properly and fully index the database prior to publication and since publication. The decision grants 60 (days) to TGN to remedy the situation. > > Should they fail to do so, the license granted by the Institut Drouin will lapse. > > The case is not entirely decided as the parties must still meet on September 9, 2009 to decide on the amount of damages caused by this breach of contract. > > Following this decision, Jean Pierre Pépin has asked that Ancestry remove the Drouin collection from internet access until such time as it is fully and properly indexed. But Ancestry has not completely done so as of yet, and the Drouin collection seems to still be accessible. Will it still be after September 1st....? Now, there's the real question! > > For those of you who read French: > http://www.institutdrouin.com/avis180809.pdf > > There you have it." Cheers! Doreen _________________________________________________________________ Stay in the loop and chat with friends, right from your inbox! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671354

Sharlene, Are you possibly related to any of the Bell family from Singhampton, Nottawasaga Twp area ? My paternal grandmother was Annie T Bell, daughter of Angus Bell and Eliza Greenway Jan :) > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:04:17 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection > > Anyone know what happened to the Drouin Colleciton on Ancestry.com. > > Sharlene > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009

I believe it is 1912. > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:11:50 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne > > Doreen, > How recent do the LDS birth registers go up to, do you know? > Thanks for your help. > Gwen > > --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Conlin <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Conlin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:04 PM > > > The available dates for birth registrations in Ontario are for the period 1869-1909. LDS has microfilms with births to a later date and you would have to go to one of their Libraries to view. > > > > I found a few bits that might help: > > > > 1861 Canada Census for Simcoe shows the following PAYNE family: > > > > David - b. 1809 in England, Farmer - Anglican > > Sophia - b. 1812 - " - W. Methodist > > George - b. 1843 - " > > Mary A. - b. 1844 - " > > John W. - b. 1847 - Ontario > > Uriah - b. 1849 - " > > Sarah C. b. 1853 " > > S.M. - b. 1855 " > > > > The 1871 Canada Census shows the child noted a S.M. was called Mathilda, and the family religion Wesleyan Methodist. There was a Harvie family living adjacent to the Payne family in this Census. > > > > Sophia Mathilda Payne age 28 of South Orillia, daughter of David & Sophia Payne married on March 18, 1884 at Prices' Corners, South Orillia to Charles Harvie, age 30, son of Charles & Marion Harvie of South Orillia. > > > > The 1881 Canada Census shows Sophia living with her parents, who were born in England, in Matchedash & Orillia, Simcoe North, Ontario. > > > > George Payne married Eleanor Wylie 17 Jun 1890, Simcoe > > > > John William Payne married Ruth Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Maria Browne on 28 June 1882; & Jennie Downs on 19 Jan 1886 > > > > Uriah Payne married Naomi Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Catherine Anderson on 21 Dec 1904 > > > > Sarah C. Payne married William Walker Russell 17 Apr 1878, Simcoe > > > > If you check the 1901 and 1911 Canada Census it will show the children of the above couples. See: www.automatedgenealogy.com > > > > Cheers! > > Doreen > > ======== > > > > > > ======= > > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:50:15 -0700 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne > > > > Hello Listers, > > I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. > > I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have any info regarding the above family? > > Thanks for any information. > > Gwen Cunningham > > ***************** > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive email from all of your webmail accounts. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671356 > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Attention all humans. We are your photos. Free us. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047

Ancestry.ca has births online from 1869 until about 1909. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gwendolyn cunningham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne Doreen, How recent do the LDS birth registers go up to, do you know? Thanks for your help. Gwen --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Conlin <[email protected]> wrote: From: Conlin <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:04 PM The available dates for birth registrations in Ontario are for the period 1869-1909. LDS has microfilms with births to a later date and you would have to go to one of their Libraries to view. I found a few bits that might help: 1861 Canada Census for Simcoe shows the following PAYNE family: David - b. 1809 in England, Farmer - Anglican Sophia - b. 1812 - " - W. Methodist George - b. 1843 - " Mary A. - b. 1844 - " John W. - b. 1847 - Ontario Uriah - b. 1849 - " Sarah C. b. 1853 " S.M. - b. 1855 " The 1871 Canada Census shows the child noted a S.M. was called Mathilda, and the family religion Wesleyan Methodist. There was a Harvie family living adjacent to the Payne family in this Census. Sophia Mathilda Payne age 28 of South Orillia, daughter of David & Sophia Payne married on March 18, 1884 at Prices' Corners, South Orillia to Charles Harvie, age 30, son of Charles & Marion Harvie of South Orillia. The 1881 Canada Census shows Sophia living with her parents, who were born in England, in Matchedash & Orillia, Simcoe North, Ontario. George Payne married Eleanor Wylie 17 Jun 1890, Simcoe John William Payne married Ruth Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Maria Browne on 28 June 1882; & Jennie Downs on 19 Jan 1886 Uriah Payne married Naomi Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Catherine Anderson on 21 Dec 1904 Sarah C. Payne married William Walker Russell 17 Apr 1878, Simcoe If you check the 1901 and 1911 Canada Census it will show the children of the above couples. See: www.automatedgenealogy.com Cheers! Doreen ======== ======= > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:50:15 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne > > Hello Listers, > I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He > died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old > and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article > mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and > Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home > as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. > Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. > I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were > descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have > any info regarding the above family? > Thanks for any information. > Gwen Cunningham > ***************** > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive email from all of your webmail accounts. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671356 ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gwen You probably already know all this but David Payne (d. Dec 16, 1893) and Sophia Turner (d. May 21, 1896) are buried at St. Andrew's St. James' cemetery in Orillia. >From the transcript: In/ Memory Of/ David Payne/ Died 16 Dec. 1893/ In His 85th Year./ -/ Also Of/ Sophia Turner/ Wife Of The Above/ Died 21 May. 1896/ Aged 84 Yrs/ 6 Mos./ -/ In Life Beloved, In Death Lamented/ -/ Farewell Dear Mother Sweet Thy Rest Sophia & David are found in the 1861 Census There is a plot at St. Andrew's St. James' that has David, Garnet, Glen and Violet (Binsted) PAYNE, I have found a marriage registration for David & Violet, David is the son of John William Payne and Jane Downs, married January 18, 1912. I have found the marriage registration of John Payne and Jane Downs. John's parents are David & Sohie Payne. Heather in Orillia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of gwendolyn cunningham Sent: August 29, 2009 10:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne Hello Listers, I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have any info regarding the above family? Thanks for any information. Gwen Cunningham ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doreen, How recent do the LDS birth registers go up to, do you know? Thanks for your help. Gwen --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Conlin <[email protected]> wrote: From: Conlin <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:04 PM The available dates for birth registrations in Ontario are for the period 1869-1909.  LDS has microfilms with births to a later date and you would have to go to one of their Libraries to view. I found a few bits that might help: 1861 Canada Census for Simcoe shows the following PAYNE family: David - b. 1809 in England, Farmer - Anglican Sophia - b. 1812 -    " - W. Methodist George - b. 1843 -    " Mary A. - b. 1844 -    " John W. - b. 1847 - Ontario Uriah - b. 1849 -  " Sarah C.  b. 1853 " S.M.    - b. 1855   " The 1871 Canada Census shows the child noted a S.M. was called Mathilda, and the family religion Wesleyan Methodist.  There was a Harvie family living adjacent to the Payne family in this Census. Sophia Mathilda Payne age 28 of South Orillia, daughter of David & Sophia Payne married on March 18, 1884 at Prices' Corners, South Orillia to Charles Harvie, age 30, son of Charles & Marion Harvie of South Orillia. The 1881 Canada Census shows Sophia living with her parents, who were born in England, in Matchedash & Orillia, Simcoe North, Ontario. George Payne married Eleanor Wylie 17 Jun 1890, Simcoe John William Payne married Ruth Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Maria Browne on 28 June 1882; & Jennie Downs on 19 Jan 1886 Uriah Payne married Naomi Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Catherine Anderson on 21 Dec 1904 Sarah C. Payne married William Walker Russell 17 Apr 1878, Simcoe If you check the 1901 and 1911 Canada Census it will show the children of the above couples.  See: www.automatedgenealogy.com Cheers! Doreen ======== =======  > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:50:15 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne > > Hello Listers, > I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. > I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have any info regarding the above family? > Thanks for any information. > Gwen Cunningham > ***************** > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive email from all of your webmail accounts. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671356 ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heather, I have a lot of info abt John William Payne and Jennie Downs including some abt David John  and siblings and wife Violet. I didn't have the cemetery transcripts which is the piece I needed! Thanks so much. Gwen --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Heather Bertram <[email protected]> wrote: From: Heather Bertram <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:06 PM Hi Gwen You probably already know all this but David Payne (d. Dec 16, 1893) and Sophia Turner (d. May 21, 1896) are buried at St. Andrew's St. James' cemetery in Orillia. >From the transcript: In/ Memory Of/ David Payne/ Died 16 Dec. 1893/ In His 85th Year./ -/ Also Of/ Sophia Turner/ Wife Of The Above/ Died 21 May. 1896/ Aged 84 Yrs/ 6 Mos./ -/ In Life Beloved, In Death Lamented/ -/ Farewell Dear Mother Sweet Thy Rest Sophia & David are found in the 1861 Census There is a plot at St. Andrew's St. James' that has David, Garnet, Glen and Violet (Binsted) PAYNE, I have found a marriage registration for David & Violet, David is the son of John William Payne and Jane Downs, married January 18, 1912.  I have found the marriage registration of John Payne and Jane Downs.  John's parents are David & Sohie Payne. Heather in Orillia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of gwendolyn cunningham Sent: August 29, 2009 10:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne Hello Listers, I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have any info regarding the above family? Thanks for any information. Gwen Cunningham ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-requ[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jan, was your Eliza Greenway born in Oxofrdshire, England? If so, we may have a common ancestor. Mary researching HART, GREENWAY, TENNANT, MARTIN, MILLER ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:01:59 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Bell surname Sharlene, Are you possibly related to any of the Bell family from Singhampton, Nottawasaga Twp area ? My paternal grandmother was Annie T Bell, daughter of Angus Bell and Eliza Greenway Jan  :) > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:04:17 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection > > Anyone know what happened to the Drouin Colleciton on Ancestry.com. >  > Sharlene > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The available dates for birth registrations in Ontario are for the period 1869-1909. LDS has microfilms with births to a later date and you would have to go to one of their Libraries to view. I found a few bits that might help: 1861 Canada Census for Simcoe shows the following PAYNE family: David - b. 1809 in England, Farmer - Anglican Sophia - b. 1812 - " - W. Methodist George - b. 1843 - " Mary A. - b. 1844 - " John W. - b. 1847 - Ontario Uriah - b. 1849 - " Sarah C. b. 1853 " S.M. - b. 1855 " The 1871 Canada Census shows the child noted a S.M. was called Mathilda, and the family religion Wesleyan Methodist. There was a Harvie family living adjacent to the Payne family in this Census. Sophia Mathilda Payne age 28 of South Orillia, daughter of David & Sophia Payne married on March 18, 1884 at Prices' Corners, South Orillia to Charles Harvie, age 30, son of Charles & Marion Harvie of South Orillia. The 1881 Canada Census shows Sophia living with her parents, who were born in England, in Matchedash & Orillia, Simcoe North, Ontario. George Payne married Eleanor Wylie 17 Jun 1890, Simcoe John William Payne married Ruth Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Maria Browne on 28 June 1882; & Jennie Downs on 19 Jan 1886 Uriah Payne married Naomi Middleton 5 Sep 1873, Simcoe; & Catherine Anderson on 21 Dec 1904 Sarah C. Payne married William Walker Russell 17 Apr 1878, Simcoe If you check the 1901 and 1911 Canada Census it will show the children of the above couples. See: www.automatedgenealogy.com Cheers! Doreen ======== ======= > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:50:15 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Garnet Payne > > Hello Listers, > I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. > I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have any info regarding the above family? > Thanks for any information. > Gwen Cunningham > ***************** > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive email from all of your webmail accounts. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671356

On 29 Aug 2009 at 8:17, Sharlene Bell-Haussmann wrote: > Thanks, it isn't listed anymore on the world site.....so did > have to go through the Canadian site.....   Shar > Did you use the Card Catalogue on ancestry.com to search? The Drouin Collection 1621-1967 is still there, at http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1091 -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ [email protected] or [email protected]

Not that I know of, my dad came from Bothwell, Scotland.  Don't know if any of his family came to Canada other than a family of Rodger's.  My mother came from Waubaushene...a Plouffe   But all the Bells are probably related.   Sharlene --- On Sat, 8/29/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Bell surname To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 1:01 PM Sharlene, Are you possibly related to any of the Bell family from Singhampton, Nottawasaga Twp area ? My paternal grandmother was Annie T Bell, daughter of Angus Bell and Eliza Greenway Jan   :) > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:04:17 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection > > Anyone know what happened to the Drouin Colleciton on Ancestry.com. >  > Sharlene > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-O[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's still there....I just checked. Try: http://www.ancestry.ca/drouin/. Maybe it only shows up under Ancestry.ca? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlene Bell-Haussmann" <[email protected]> To: "Simcoe List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection Anyone know what happened to the Drouin Colleciton on Ancestry.com. Sharlene ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, it isn't listed anymore on the world site.....so did have to go through the Canadian site.....   Shar --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Colleen Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: From: Colleen Andrews <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 10:33 AM It's still there....I just checked.  Try:  http://www.ancestry.ca/drouin/. Maybe it only shows up under Ancestry.ca? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlene Bell-Haussmann" <[email protected]> To: "Simcoe List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Drouin Collection Anyone know what happened to the Drouin Colleciton on Ancestry.com. Sharlene ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, I'm trying to place the obit for a Garnet Payne son of David Payne. He died in August of 1937 at Foxmead. The obit says Garnet was 13 years old and died by falling on a pitchfork while working on his farm. The article mentions surviving relatives: a sister Mrs. A. Beers, brothers Gordon and Earl all of Lindsay and 4 sisters Alice, Irene, Bernice and a baby at home as well as two brothers Frank and William at home. Interment was at St. Andrew's cemetery in Orillia. I am trying to determine if Garnet and his father David Payne were descendants of David Payne and his wife Sophia Turner. Does anyone have any info regarding the above family? Thanks for any information. Gwen Cunningham

Could we please change the subject line as the topic has strayed far from the 38th Battalion? Perusing the archives of this list and seeing the reference to the 38th may cause people who could help you in your search to just bypass the messages. And those who might be interested in the 38th, but not in your present topic, might get a trifle upset after opening so many messages just to find they have no bearing on the 38th. And one other thing; please, please delete the previous messages when replying! Hitting reply doesn't eliminate all the previous replies or the entire digest, you have to highlight and delete. Thanks, Cranky Pam

Anyone know what happened to the Drouin Colleciton on Ancestry.com.   Sharlene

The Halls I know, emigrated from England, some settled in Scarboro, Ontario, later some married and moved further to the West in Ontario, one moved to Saskatchewan or Manitoba, descendants now live in USA. Some married Cowans in Ontario. There is a Bob Cowan on Channel ll TV or 6 maybe CTV, off the air and along with him a ? Hall female, who do the news and interviews in the mornings. Bob Cowan looks like my Hall (Male) family, so I am thinking he may be from my English Family. They may originate in the Hamilton, Ontario Area? I do not know about the ? Hall female. On Fri 28/08/09 4:49 PM , Colleen Andrews [email protected] sent: > I think most Irish who went to England went to the Liverpool area, since > > apparently it was cheaper to emigrate from Liverpool. Sometimes they had to > > work a year or so before they could afford to leave. But Scarborough is on > > the other side of the country from Liverpool. > > > > > > > > 2009/8/28 R & S Jardine rsjardi > [email protected]> > > > > Yes, Armagh is in Ireland. > > > > > > However, many Irish sailed from England, or had > emigrated to England before > > deciding to move to the Americas.... > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Colleen Andrews and > [email protected]> > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:48 pm > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th > battalion > > > > > > Armagh is in Ireland, not England..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/8/28 R & S Jardine rsjardi > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > hi Joan, > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure. They married in Armagh in 1842 and > were in > > > Tecumseth by the > > > > > 1851 Census. > > > > > > > > > > In between - ? > > > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Catt [email protected] > mus.ca> > > > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:41 am > > > > > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th > battalion > > > > > > > > > > Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England > emigration in > > > > > 1830 or so? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson jmatkin > [email protected] > > > sent:> > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from > newspapers in > > > > > the area of > > > > > > > Shallow Lake. (Indexed). > > > > > > > Joan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On > Twitter: > > > > > http://tr.im/hBAy > > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to CAN-ONT- > > > > > S > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On > Twitter: > > > http://tr.im/hBAy> > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > > > > http://tr.im/hBAy > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT- > > > S > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Oops...never thought of that. Saw England, assumed Scarborough, Yorkshire (!). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert & Shawna Jardine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > Just to clear this up - are you referring to Scarborough, Ontario? > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Catt > Sent: August-28-09 10:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Soldiers of the 38th battalion > > Did your Hall's come from Scarboro after England emigration in 1830 or so? > > On Fri 28/08/09 8:47 AM , Joan Atkinson [email protected] sent: >> Just a thought. >> >> The Archives at Grey Bruce has information from newspapers in the area of >> Shallow Lake. (Indexed). >> Joan > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message