The 1861 Canada Census for Simcoe County, Orillia shows the following information: BAILEY " Robert - age 53, born Ireland, Occ: carpenter, rel: FC >Ann - age 51, born Ireland >William - age 21, born UC >James - age 17, born UC >Samuel - age 13, born UC Patricia, your Cloverdale library has an excellent genealogy section complete with microfiche, old maps and books of early inhabitants all across Canada and parts of the USA. There is also a genealogy group that meets there once a month which you might find very helpful. Cheers! Doreen ============== > From: patrace@telus.net > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:35:14 -0700 > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Heather, Thank you and how do you know this? Patricia -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Heather Bertram Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:05 PM To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Hi Pat Your Baileys are buried at St. Andrew's St. James' Cemetery in Orillia. Heather Bertram Orillia -----Original Message----- From: can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:can-ont-simcoe-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia A. M. Johnson Sent: August 2, 2010 12:35 AM To: Administrator Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey Dear Listers, I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they were from Donegal, Ireland. While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so this is something else I would like to investigate. I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and further ancestoral information and their descendants. Can you please help me with my search? Many thanks, Patricia Johnson Bailey Cloverdale, B. C. ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would need to know the name details of your Miss Bailey to answer you.re the relationship - do you know of any more Baileys as my grandfather came from a family of 7 boys who all stayed in Ontario except for him as far as I know. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catt" <gullake@primus.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > I do not know if you are related or not to a Miss Bailey who taught me some dances in Unionville Public School, > Ontario, Canada. The Shawtese? We had to perform in front of our parents in costumes. > That was a bit of fun for a change. > > Catt > > On Mon 02/08/10 1:46 AM , Sharon Haggerty smhaggerty@shaw.ca sent: > > I have found that for some of my Irish ancestors whose origins before > > coming to Ireland were England, Scotland or Wales. They gave their ancestry > > as being from the original country rather than Ireland, which is where they > > lived prior to coming to Canada. There was often strong anti-Irish > > sentiment in those early days and I think some folks felt it was wiser to > > cite their distant ancestral origin, rather than admitting they had come > > from Ireland. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patricia A. M. Johnson" us.net>Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:33 pm > > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > > To: Administrator an-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > > > Dear Listers, > > > > > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my > > paternal> GGGrandfather,Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne > > living in Orillia> (Upper Canada) at the > > > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 > > Census, they> were born in > > > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC > > religion. My father> always told me they > > > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > > > > > While at the library recently, I came across > > more information> stating that a > > > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first > > of six families> to settle in > > > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my > > GGrandfather, was> born in Upper > > > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert > > Milton, my> Grandfather, was born in > > > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel > > Rebellion of> 1885 at > > > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men > > were carpenters.> > > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born > > in Ireland of> Scottishdescent - my father always stated to us > > that his> ancestors were Irish, so > > > this is something else I would like to > > investigate.> > > > I am trying to establish when they came to > > Canada and find their> BMDs and > > > further ancestoral information and their > > descendants.> > > > Can you please help me with my > > search?> > > > Many thanks, > > > > > > Patricia Johnson > > Bailey> Cloverdale, B. C. > > > > > > ***************** > > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On > > Twitter:> http://tr.im/hBAy> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to CAN-ONT-> S > > IMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message> > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Pat for your info. I know that there was a great influx of Scots in the 1600s, sent to Ireland, by the British forming "Donegal". I also understand that some of the early Canadian settlers to U Canada were from this Irish group and known as the "Peter Robinson" settlers - mine might have come in this group as I see articles on Robert Bailey settling in Orillia, in the groups of the first 6 families. I found the 1841 census on ancestry.com where believe I saw these entries for my Baileys - will check again at the library in the next few days. In the meanwhile I am also looking for descendants - do you know any Baileys as my grandfather came from a family of 7 boys, I understand. I believe they all stayed in Ontario with the exception of my grandfather. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Jeffs" <pat.jeffs@dsl.pipex.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > Patricia > > Your Bailey family may have been in Ireland for two of three generations > before coming to Canada. Before that they may well have been from Scotland. > There was a large movement of Protestant Scots to the north of Ireland > during the early 18th century. > > Are you sure you were looking at the 1841 census for Orillia? There may have > been attempts to have a census in Canada in 1841 but they were few and far > between. The Free Church (FC)--a Presbyterian group--did not come into > existence in Scotland or Ireland or Canada until 1843. The 1851 census would > be the more likely one. > > Hope this helps > > /cheers > > Pat Jeffs > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Patricia A. M. Johnson <patrace@telus.net>wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that > > a > > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle > > in > > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > > > Can you please help me with my search? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > > Cloverdale, B. C. > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Sharon, My father always said his ancestors were from Donegal, Ireland and "were here in Canada when the boat came over." However, it seems they were here for the 1841 Census stating Ireland as their birth country and the next census they stated Ireland as their birth country and Scotland as their Origin. My search is for the BMDs for this pioneer Bailey couple and their ancestry. Patricia Johnson Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Haggerty" <smhaggerty@shaw.ca> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey I have found that for some of my Irish ancestors whose origins before coming to Ireland were England, Scotland or Wales. They gave their ancestry as being from the original country rather than Ireland, which is where they lived prior to coming to Canada. There was often strong anti-Irish sentiment in those early days and I think some folks felt it was wiser to cite their distant ancestral origin, rather than admitting they had come from Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:33 pm Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey To: Administrator <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal > GGGrandfather,Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia > (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they > were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father > always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information > stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families > to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was > born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my > Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of > 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of > Scottishdescent - my father always stated to us that his > ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their > BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ***************** Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not know if you are related or not to a Miss Bailey who taught me some dances in Unionville Public School, Ontario, Canada. The Shawtese? We had to perform in front of our parents in costumes. That was a bit of fun for a change. Catt On Mon 02/08/10 1:46 AM , Sharon Haggerty smhaggerty@shaw.ca sent: > I have found that for some of my Irish ancestors whose origins before > coming to Ireland were England, Scotland or Wales. They gave their ancestry > as being from the original country rather than Ireland, which is where they > lived prior to coming to Canada. There was often strong anti-Irish > sentiment in those early days and I think some folks felt it was wiser to > cite their distant ancestral origin, rather than admitting they had come > from Ireland. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia A. M. Johnson" us.net>Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:33 pm > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > To: Administrator an-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > > Dear Listers, > > > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my > paternal> GGGrandfather,Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne > living in Orillia> (Upper Canada) at the > > time of the 1841 Census.  According to 1841 > Census, they> were born in > > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC > religion.  My father> always told me they > > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > > > While at the library recently, I came across > more information> stating that a > > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first > of six families> to settle in > > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my > GGrandfather, was> born in Upper > > Canada in 1840.  Their Grandson, Robert > Milton, my> Grandfather, was born in > > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel > Rebellion of> 1885 at > > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men > were carpenters.> > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born > in Ireland of> Scottishdescent - my father always stated to us > that his> ancestors were Irish, so > > this is something else I would like to > investigate.> > > I am trying to establish when they came to > Canada and find their> BMDs and > > further ancestoral information and their > descendants.> > > Can you please help me with my > search?> > > Many thanks, > > > > Patricia Johnson    > Bailey> Cloverdale, B. C. > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On > Twitter:> http://tr.im/hBAy> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to CAN-ONT-> S > IMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message> > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I do not know if you are related or not to a Miss Bailey who taught me some dances in Unionville Public School, Ontario, Canada. The Shawtese? We had to perform in front of our parents in costumes. That was a bit of fun for a change. Catt On Mon 02/08/10 1:46 AM , Sharon Haggerty smhaggerty@shaw.ca sent: > I have found that for some of my Irish ancestors whose origins before > coming to Ireland were England, Scotland or Wales. They gave their ancestry > as being from the original country rather than Ireland, which is where they > lived prior to coming to Canada. There was often strong anti-Irish > sentiment in those early days and I think some folks felt it was wiser to > cite their distant ancestral origin, rather than admitting they had come > from Ireland. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia A. M. Johnson" us.net>Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:33 pm > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey > To: Administrator an-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > > Dear Listers, > > > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my > paternal> GGGrandfather,Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne > living in Orillia> (Upper Canada) at the > > time of the 1841 Census.  According to 1841 > Census, they> were born in > > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC > religion.  My father> always told me they > > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > > > While at the library recently, I came across > more information> stating that a > > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first > of six families> to settle in > > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my > GGrandfather, was> born in Upper > > Canada in 1840.  Their Grandson, Robert > Milton, my> Grandfather, was born in > > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel > Rebellion of> 1885 at > > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men > were carpenters.> > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born > in Ireland of> Scottishdescent - my father always stated to us > that his> ancestors were Irish, so > > this is something else I would like to > investigate.> > > I am trying to establish when they came to > Canada and find their> BMDs and > > further ancestoral information and their > descendants.> > > Can you please help me with my > search?> > > Many thanks, > > > > Patricia Johnson    > Bailey> Cloverdale, B. C. > > > > ***************** > > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On > Twitter:> http://tr.im/hBAy> Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to CAN-ONT-> S > IMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without> the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message> > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Patricia Your Bailey family may have been in Ireland for two of three generations before coming to Canada. Before that they may well have been from Scotland. There was a large movement of Protestant Scots to the north of Ireland during the early 18th century. Are you sure you were looking at the 1841 census for Orillia? There may have been attempts to have a census in Canada in 1841 but they were few and far between. The Free Church (FC)--a Presbyterian group--did not come into existence in Scotland or Ireland or Canada until 1843. The 1851 census would be the more likely one. Hope this helps /cheers Pat Jeffs On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Patricia A. M. Johnson <patrace@telus.net>wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, > Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that > a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle > in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper > Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish > descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have found that for some of my Irish ancestors whose origins before coming to Ireland were England, Scotland or Wales. They gave their ancestry as being from the original country rather than Ireland, which is where they lived prior to coming to Canada. There was often strong anti-Irish sentiment in those early days and I think some folks felt it was wiser to cite their distant ancestral origin, rather than admitting they had come from Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia A. M. Johnson" <patrace@telus.net> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:33 pm Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Robert Bailey and his wife Anne Bailey To: Administrator <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> > Dear Listers, > > I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal > GGGrandfather,Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia > (Upper Canada) at the > time of the 1841 Census.  According to 1841 Census, they > were born in > Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion.  My father > always told me they > were from Donegal, Ireland. > > While at the library recently, I came across more information > stating that a > Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families > to settle in > Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was > born in Upper > Canada in 1840.  Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my > Grandfather, was born in > Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of > 1885 at > Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. > > On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of > Scottishdescent - my father always stated to us that his > ancestors were Irish, so > this is something else I would like to investigate. > > I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their > BMDs and > further ancestoral information and their descendants. > > Can you please help me with my search? > > Many thanks, > > Patricia Johnson    Bailey > Cloverdale, B. C. > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: > http://tr.im/hBAy > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT- > SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers, I am looking for any details I can obtain for my paternal GGGrandfather, Robert Bailey and his wife, Anne living in Orillia (Upper Canada) at the time of the 1841 Census. According to 1841 Census, they were born in Ireland 1808 and 1810 and were FC religion. My father always told me they were from Donegal, Ireland. While at the library recently, I came across more information stating that a Robert Bailey and family were amongst the first of six families to settle in Orillia from Ireland. Their son William, my GGrandfather, was born in Upper Canada in 1840. Their Grandson, Robert Milton, my Grandfather, was born in Orillia in 1869 and was part of the Second Riel Rebellion of 1885 at Batoche, Manitoba. I believe all the Bailey men were carpenters. On the next Census it shows Robert and Anne born in Ireland of Scottish descent - my father always stated to us that his ancestors were Irish, so this is something else I would like to investigate. I am trying to establish when they came to Canada and find their BMDs and further ancestoral information and their descendants. Can you please help me with my search? Many thanks, Patricia Johnson Bailey Cloverdale, B. C.

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The website will always remain a "free-access" project for the benefit of those looking for the burial grounds of their ancestors. * 5. It is important to reiterate that the onboard search engine will search in seconds, through nearly 400,000 photographs and 700 cemeteries for your keyword. Remember, only complete cemeteries are online which raises the odds for your chances to make a "HIT"....! Many folks tell me they have found some of their long lost ancestors and in many cases they state that they have or will be visiting the cemetery to personally see their ancestor's stone. * * NEED A CHALLENGE..? **************** * 1. If you "have camera and will travel" to your local Canadian cemeteries, then we, at the Canadian Gravemarker Gallery would welcome your assistance and publish your name giving you full credit for your work. Family Researchers from around the world will be eternally grateful to you. * 2. If you feel you would like to help out with this huge, ongoing free project, please read the document located at: http://www.gravemarkers.ca/assist.htm for more details. * * COMPLETE CEMETERIES ADDED/UPDATED THIS MONTH ON THE CANADIAN GRAVEMARKER GALLERY. **************************************************************************** * * 1. Eastern Ontario, Leeds and Grenville County, Rideau Lakes Twp, Westport Presbyterian. * 2. Central Ontario, Regional Municipality of Durham, Brock Township, Beaverton, Union Cemetery. * 3. Central Ontario, Hastings County, Wollaston Twp, St. Andrew's United Cemetery. * 4. Central Ontario, Simcoe County, Ramara Twp, Sebright United Church Cemetery. * 5. Central Ontario, Simcoe County, Orillia, St. Michael's R.C. Cemetery (New) - Block A. * 6. Central Ontario, Simcoe County, Orillia, St. Michael's R.C. Cemetery (New) - Block D. * 7. Central Ontario, Simcoe County, Orillia, St. Michael's R.C. Cemetery (New) - Block F. * 8. Central Ontario, Victoria County, City of Kawartha Lakes, McIndoo Cemetery. * 9. Northern Ontario, Muskoka District, Draper Twp, St. Paul's Anglican Churchyard Cemetery. * 10. Northern Ontario, Muskoka District, Draper Twp, Uffington United Cemetery. * 11. Northern Ontario, Muskoka District, Medora Twp, Port Carling Cemetery. * 12. Northern Ontario, Muskoka District, Stephenson Twp, Port Sydney, Christ Church Anglican Cemetery. * 13. Northern Ontario, Muskoka District, Watt Twp, Ullswater, St. Thomas Anglican Cemetery. * 14. Northern Ontario, Muskoka District, Bracebridge, Society of St. John The Evangelist Cemetery. (The Cowley Fathers). * 15. Northern Ontario, Parry Sound District, Strong Twp, Sundridge, Sundridge Cemetery (New). Re-photographed. * 16. New Brunswick, Queens County, Cambridge Parish, Church of The Good Shepherd Anglican Cemetery. * 17. New Brunswick, Queens County, Cambridge Parish, Cambridge Baptist Cemetery. * 18. New Brunswick, Queens County, Cambridge Parish, Jemseg Community Cemetery. * 19. New Brunswick, Kings County, Greenwich Parish, Day's Corner Cemetery. * 20. New Brunswick, Kings County, Hammond Parish, Hammondvale Cemetery. * 21. New Brunswick, Kings County, Hammond Parish, Poodiac Cemetery. * 22. New Brunswick, Kings County, Hammond Parish, Hillsdale Baptist Cemetery. * 23. New Brunswick, Kings County, Upham Parish, Upham, Tabor Cemetery. * * CEMETERIES IN PROGRESS OR EXPECTED AT THE CANADIAN GRAVEMARKER GALLERY. ********************************************************************** * 1. Alberta, Heartland Region, Innisfail Cemetery. * 2. British Columbia, Southern Okanagan, Kelowna, 2 cemeteries. * 3. Central Ontario, Hastings County, Dungannon Twp, Egan Creek Cemetery. * 4. Central Ontario, Hastings County, Dungannon Twp, Grace United Cemetery. * 5. Central Ontario, Hastings County, Marmora Twp, St. Matilda R.C. Cemetery. * 6. Northern Ontario, Kenora District, Dryden Public Cemetery. * 7. Northern Ontario, Cochrane District, Black River-Matheson Twp, Shillington Cemetery. * 8. Northern Ontario, Parrys Sound District, Strong Township, Sundridge (Old) Cemetery re-photographed. * 9. Northern Ontario, Thunder Bay District, Thunder Bay, Mountainview Cemetery - Remaining Blocks. * 10. Northern Ontario, Temiskaming District, Teck Twp, Kirkland Lake Cemetery, Block D, Sects 7,8,9 & 10. * 11. Northern Ontario. Muskoka District, Watt Township, Ufford United Cemetery. * 12. Northern Ontario. Muskoka District, Watt Township, Ufford Anglican Cemetery. * 13. New Brunswick, Kings County, Quispamsis, 1 cemetery. * * OVERVIEW PROGRESS REPORT. ************************ * 1. Ontario, Renfrew County is now completely online. * 2. Ontario, Nipissing District is completely online. * 3. Ontario, Parry Sound District is completely online. * 4. Ontario, Timiskaming District. The Kirkland Lake and Elk Lake cemeteries may be fully online in 2009. * 5. Ontario, Kenora District. Kenora, Keewatin and Sioux Falls-Nestor Twp cemeteries are online. * 6. Ontario, Rainy River District. Volunteers are continuing work on Rainy River cemeteries. * 7. Ontario, Muskoka District. Good headway is being made on Muskoka District cemeteries. * 8. Ontario, Manitoulin District. Many cemeteries are online. * 9. Ontario, Cochrane District. Work continues on Timmins Memorial Cemetery and other cemeteries. * 10. Ontario, Hastings County. Work continues on Hasting County cemeteries. * 11. British Columbia, Thompson-Okanagan Region. Additional cemeteries are being processed. * 12. Nova Scotia, Cumberland County. Additional cemeteries are expected. * * WEBSITE ITEMS. ************ * 1. At the Canadian Gravemarker Gallery, which is online at: http://gravemarkers.ca ..we can accommodate unlimited numbers of photographs of complete cemeteries from anywhere in Canada. The photographers and/or organizations are given credit on the website for their interest and hard work. * 2. This long established, free-access National Site is proud to announce that there are more than 600 cemeteries completely photographed and onboard, amounting to over 350,000 searchable photographs. There have been over 580,000 visitors to the site. Each day there are over 200 folks browsing the site and there are over 10,000 name searches each month. * 3. If you have family or friends anywhere in Canada, who may be interested in photographing their local cemeteries, please inform them of the availability of The Canadian Gravemarker Gallery. Their photographed cemeteries will have world wide exposure on this National Cemetery Photograph website. * 4. If you and/or your organization are interested in your local cemeteries going online, please contact Murray P l e t s c h at: pletsch@cogeco.ca or murray@gravemarkers.ca - there are no cemeteries too big or too small...! * 5. 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Greetings All. The latest issue of 'Gordon Watts Reports' is now online and accessible at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0124.htm Topics in this issue include the following: * Public backlash on Canadian government Census decision * Conflicting statements prompts resignation * Minister 'consulted' with MPs - numbers don't add up * My Access to Information request * Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology to meet on Census issue Have a great day! Gordon A. Watts Co-chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC Permission to forward without notice is granted.

Beausoleil Island Cemetery, known as the Red Oak Cemetery, has indeed been transcribed. The Penetang Museum has a copy. Here is a bit of history from the book /"A Taste of Honey Harbour"/ "...there was a small cemetery where the graves were marked only with sticks. Over several years, Indians and local residents came to the island to identify the graves. George Lynn, (first Park warden) marked each one with with a shingle and over the winter months made and inscribed white wood crosses to be placed in the Cemetery of the Red Oak". I am late getting in on this conversation but what specifically did you want to know? Pam

Sort of - though I'm not sure who would have the records. There is a plaque on site at the cemetery listing the names of those buired there and some of the markers have brief biographical details on them - names and dates. I have a picture of the plaque, let me know if you'd like a copy sent to your home e mail. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:16 PM, MARGARET ALDRIDGE <jamaldridge@rogers.com>wrote: > Deborah, > > Would you happen to know if Beausoleil has been transcribed? > > Marg > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Deborah Crawford <deborahc8@gmail.com> > *To:* can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > *Sent:* Fri, July 16, 2010 3:52:08 PM > *Subject:* Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Beausoleil Island > > Georgina - sending the photo to your private e mail now. > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Conlin <conlin2004@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers, I travelled from Toronto to Tottenham today with no real agenda other than to stop at the Tottenham Library to see what historical information they had on the area. After finding a few interesting things, I left the library and decided on a whim to visit a local cemetery that I had visited many times before, again with no specific agenda. A volunteer cemetery worker struck up a conversation with me and it turned out that his wife was related to my maternal side probably on more than one level. I am sure that we have much information to exchange by email and hopefully in person also. I still had some extra time so I decided to stop at another library in a different township. I noticed that they had several copies of the hard to get "Tottenham, A History of Tottenham" as well as "Tecumseth Township, An Unforgettable Past". The Head Librarian said that "they had just received another copy of each through a donation but had not catalogued them yet". I offered to purchase them by making a donation to the library, to which she agreed. The moral of this story is to just get out and see where the genealogical gods take you. Regards, Richard

Georgina - sending the photo to your private e mail now. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Conlin <conlin2004@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >

Beausoleil Island is located in Muskoka / Parry Sound district of Ontario. See: http://www.flickr.com/photos/snuffy/2783108728/ Red Oak Cemetery - Beausoleil Island. See: http://www.geneofun.on.ca/db.php?database=cgwcems&&index=489&template=cgwcems-showON.html Cheers! Doreen ================= > From: deansden@wightman.ca > To: can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:59:41 -0400 > Subject: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Beausoleil Island > > Hi all > > I was just looking at a death cert for Marguerite Moreau died Feb 18 1936 Baxter twsp daughter of Andrew Moreau and Florestine Lamoureux > > Place of Burial listed as Beausoleil Island National Park > > Does anyone hav info about a cemetery or Burial grounds? > > Georgina > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388

Georgina - I have the pictures of the markers from this cemetery at home, I'll look to see if there's one for Marguerite when I get home tonight. It's a well kept, recently cleaned up cemetery; accessible to all. Of course, you have to get to Beausoleil Island by boat first. However - having said that - not all the graves / burials will have a marker. When the cemetery was given its facelift, they tried to ensure all markers were replaced and acknowledged, but I would think that many merely disappeared back into Mother Earth. I'll drop you a line later today and let you know if there is a marker for her; if so, I'll send it along to your personal e mail. IF - and it's a big if - I can retrieve it and transfer it from the older computer that it's on. Stay tuned......... On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Georgina Dean <deansden@wightman.ca>wrote: > Hi all > > I was just looking at a death cert for Marguerite Moreau died Feb 18 1936 > Baxter twsp daughter of Andrew Moreau and Florestine Lamoureux > > Place of Burial listed as Beausoleil Island National Park > > Does anyone hav info about a cemetery or Burial grounds? > > Georgina > ***************** > Ten People All Genealogists Should Follow On Twitter: http://tr.im/hBAy > > Simcoe Co. GenWeb at http://www.waynecook.com/simcoe.shtml > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all I was just looking at a death cert for Marguerite Moreau died Feb 18 1936 Baxter twsp daughter of Andrew Moreau and Florestine Lamoureux Place of Burial listed as Beausoleil Island National Park Does anyone hav info about a cemetery or Burial grounds? Georgina

Hi Martina: I contacted you directly as my wife, Dorothy, (similar to you) has Harriet Kate Gummerson as her 2nd g grandmother. Rachael Williams, a daughter of John and Harriet is Dorothy's g. grandmother. I have more detailed info that I can SHARE with you directly. Who would be your Gt grandmother? Ron Makin , U.E. ronmak at idirect.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "MThompson" <marvelthomp@gmail.com> To: <can-ont-simcoe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [CAN-ONT-SIMCOE] Gummerson. > Hello Doreen, > > Thank you for the information about my Gummerson family, you have given me > many options to > follow up on. This could be the break thru that I have been needing. I > appreciate your help. > > Regards Martina. > >