I'm afraid that I didn't take down good notes when I read a film. I have an 1871 Census of Toronto Township being in Peel county; Would an 1861 Censusof Toronto 4th Ward be in Peel also, or would that be York? I'd really appreciate someone's help with this. Barbara L.

Will someone please post to the list here the address of the general Ontario mailing list...I'm having a hard time finding it among all the listings...... thank you Barb L.

To all -- It may not seem that records of veterans would be a great part of genealogy -- but it is my belief these records are important. My personal hope is -- in the future -- the names of the 516 Canadians who died in the Korean War conflict will be put in provinces. The names are on my homepage http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/ Click on TRIBUTE, then at the top, click on the POPPY to open the memorial at Meadowvale Cemetery There is one line beneath the site with the poppy -- click on that -- and 516 names will appear. Also, The Maple Leaf Project is there on this same page. Enjoy!! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "kiigma" <treeclimber@sympatico.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-PEEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Can-Ont-Peel] Veterans of Peel > Hi all! > > I have just returned from the Peel Archives where I have had a very > enjoyable morning looking through the Veterans cards relating to my > family. Some of them have a lot of information, some of them do not - > but they are interesting reading anyway and I came away with more > information than I had before. All in alphabetical order, neatly typed > and easy to read. > > I just thought I would pass the word that the Archives has recently been > refurbished and they are still hard at work getting things back in place > so, if you do drop in, please be patient with them. There were a few > calls come in about the cards while I was there so it seems the word is > spreading quickly. > > I had a nice chat with Brian. I met him once some 25/30 years ago but I > recognized him immediately. Of course, knowing ahead of time that he > worked there helped. ;-) He sends his regards Muriel! > > Katie > Brampton, Ontario > > > > > Muriel M. Davidson wrote: > > >"In recognition of the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second > >World War, the Region of Peel Archives has released a searchable > >collection of rare searchable cards from the Peel War Records Board. > >"It took volunteers one year to create the index of cards-- on > >long-term loan from the Brampton Public Library. > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/05 > >

Hi all! I have just returned from the Peel Archives where I have had a very enjoyable morning looking through the Veterans cards relating to my family. Some of them have a lot of information, some of them do not - but they are interesting reading anyway and I came away with more information than I had before. All in alphabetical order, neatly typed and easy to read. I just thought I would pass the word that the Archives has recently been refurbished and they are still hard at work getting things back in place so, if you do drop in, please be patient with them. There were a few calls come in about the cards while I was there so it seems the word is spreading quickly. I had a nice chat with Brian. I met him once some 25/30 years ago but I recognized him immediately. Of course, knowing ahead of time that he worked there helped. ;-) He sends his regards Muriel! Katie Brampton, Ontario Muriel M. Davidson wrote: >"In recognition of the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second >World War, the Region of Peel Archives has released a searchable >collection of rare searchable cards from the Peel War Records Board. >"It took volunteers one year to create the index of cards-- on >long-term loan from the Brampton Public Library. > >

Thank you Muriel!!!!! I may have missed this in the Guardian (depends on who gets it first in the house ;-) ) so glad that you brought it to our attention. I have found my father, my grandfather and three of my uncles in the index (not to mention the cousins, in-laws and friends of my family that I grew up around at the Legion). It was a nice walk down memory lane. Although the family members on file are close enough that I have their vital stats already, this will add so much more to my general interest files. I was resigned to the fact that we were probably going to have to wait a lot longer before seeing anything on the WWII vets. Looks like I will be paying a visit to the archives in the very near future. Katie Muriel M. Davidson wrote: >"In recognition of the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second >World War, the Region of Peel Archives has released a searchable >collection of rare searchable cards from the Peel War Records Board. >"It took volunteers one year to create the index of cards-- on >long-term loan from the Brampton Public Library. >

To all:- Many counties in various parts of Canada are collecting and completing records/names of veterans from their areas from World War One, World War Two and Korean War. My local newspaper, The Brampton Guardian, had an interesting small article today about Veterans of Peel County. "In recognition of the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second World War, the Region of Peel Archives has released a searchable collection of rare searchable cards from the Peel War Records Board. "It took volunteers one year to create the index of cards-- on long-term loan from the Brampton Public Library. "We were excited that thse cards are now readily available for research by the public," said Peel reference archivist Brian Gilchrist. "This is an important homage to our veterans whose heroic actions helped establish the freedoms we enjoy today." "An alphabetical list of names is available to search online at www.peelheritagecomplex.org If a name is listed, the veteran's card can be found in the archives. Admission to the Region of Peel Archives is free. [Telephone number for Brian Gilchrist is also given] --- The Brampton Guardian, November 16, 2005 =============== Counties in Nova Scotia are starting to gather records of those who served -- when one scans the list, should a name be missing, please contact the PEEL mail list or Peel Archives. It is my hope that all veterans who volunteered and fought for our freedom in Canada be recognized. We owe them our gratitude and thanks by acknowledging them in this way. One of the best lists is in Guysborough County, in Nova Scotia Guysborough Veterans http://www.angelfire.com/folk/guysboroughvets/ Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca List Admin -- PEEL, SIMCOE and CARLETON lists

To all -- During the past few days, I have received many messages to say "Hello" to the vets at Sunnybrook -- I know I have mentioned this place many times as my husband has been there almost five years. There are two other large veterans' homes in Ontario -- one in London and one in Ottawa -- Camp Hill in Nova Scotia, plus others in every province. In addition, there are ten veterans in one nursing home near where I live -- part of my volunteer work. DVA has many beds for veterans -- in Brampton, at the hospital plus two nursing homes. I know in Nova Scotia, there are DVA beds in "your backyard". Become acquainted with them -- the stories might be interesting. However -- back to Sunnybrook -- Is it possible to visualize a painting 16 feet high by at least six feet across? One veteran worked on this for six monthswith some help from the art therapist. The scene is his remembrances of a place in Italy during WW!!. In the foreground are three tombstones representing Army, Navy AirForce, with poppies growing around them. Behind these -- looking between the bottom and the top are fields, a farm with a small horse and buildings, forest, mountains and the beautiful blue and white sky at the top. The painting is hung above the fireplace in the main veterans lobby, which in two stories high. It is an outstanding work of art! Our thoughts about Rmembrance Day are best summed up by Diana Tibert in the following:- With the 11th hour fast approaching, it is our duty to stop for two minutes to remember. To view Terry Kelly's video, "A Pittance of Time" visit this link. http://www.army.gc.ca/chief_land_staff/remembrance/English/video.asp Diana Thank a Veteran - we are here because they were there. Diana Lynn Tibert Veterans of Guysborough County http://www.angelfire.com/folk/guysboroughvets/ Muriel

Many thanks Diane!!! -- I know the veterans will enjoy Ottawa, and Marc Léger's mother is the Silver Cross Mother this year. I can imagine some of the veterans remembered the troop trains of WWII -- I know I do -- in both Halifax and Sydney, NS Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Lynn Tibert" <wheelsandweeds@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <CAN-NS-GUYSBOROUGH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: [Guys.] The Troop Train of Yesterday Hello List, In the Halifax Herald today (and with many papers around the region), you can read about the Troop Train of Veterans that left Halifax yesterday headed for Ottawa and the Remembrance Day ceremony. The picture accompanying the article is one of Clyde Walback of Giants Lake, Guysborough County, waving to the crowd gathered at Westchester Station, Cumberland County. Read more: http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/463475.html Thank a Veteran - we are here because they were there. Diana Lynn Tibert Veterans of Guysborough County http://www.angelfire.com/folk/guysboroughvets/ NOW AVAILABLE: Sawdust and Sea Breezes - A History of Liscomb Mills, Guysborough County by Ruth M. (Rumley) Legge Read More: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/guysboroughvets/Legge.html

MERCER, Donald ''Don'' - Passed away into the arms of the Lord on Thursday, November 3, 2005 at the Royal Victoria Hospital, Barrie, at the age of 77 years. Don was the beloved husband of 58 years to Ethel (nee Hawkins) of Barrie. Loving father of Carol and her husband Tom Jefferies of Stittsville, Wayne and his companion Joan of Mississauga, and Richard and his wife Jamie of Courtice. Loved grandfather of 9 grandchildren. Dear brother of Eileen Rinehart of Barrie, Bernice Todoroff of Orillia, Dalton of Sutton, and Harold of Orillia. Don was a devoted Christian and a long time active member of the Independent Order of the Oddfellows. A celebration of Don's life will be held at ''Heritage Place'', I.O.O.F. Senior Citizens Home, 20 Brooks Street, Barrie on Saturday, November 12th at 11 a.m. As an expression of sympathy, donations in memory of Don may be made to the I.O.O.F. Senior Citizens Home ''Redevelopment Fund''. Arrangements entrusted to the COLDWATER FUNERAL HOME, Coldwater (705-686-3344 or 1-888-645-5485). Toronto Star; 2005-11-05 == Residents of Brampton, Ontario will remember Don Mercer as an employee of The Conservator, then The Daily Times. Muriel M. Davidson -- List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net> To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: 'Gordon Watts Reports" - new issue posted Greetings All. For those interested, the latest issue of 'Gordon Watts Reports' is now posted online, and may be accessed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0079.htm Topics of this issue include; Lest we forget; Veteran's Licence Plates; Saskatchewan Homestead Records Index; and LDS digitizing Family History Books. Your comments about my newsletters, and suggestions for future articles are welcomed. Send me an email with 'Gordon Watts Reports' in the subject line. Enjoy the Census! Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Back issues of 'Gordon Watts Reports" are available at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all -- I forwarded a posting this afternoon about "A New Page Every Day" posted by Sympatico http://remember.sympatico.ca/ The subject on the page will be changed daily. Look carefully -- you will see underlines under all stories and have the speakers on -- the #1 story was about Clare Laking, one of seven WWI vets still alive - Clare and Lloyd Hammett live at Sunnybrook. As Clare's family is not complete on the 1901 census, it did not take many minutes for a reader to forward the 1911 URL http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1911a/e080/e001990197.pdf Many thanks, Eileen!! We are still not certain about several names. The Seventh Book of Remembrance will be unveiled by Silver Cross Mother Claire Léger - her son Marc was one of four from Princess Patricia's Light Infantry when a bomb was accidentally dropped on them. For the ceremony the book will be opened to the page on which Marc's name is inscribed. The book is an "open end" book, room for more names which we hope are never inscribed. At present, Korean War and the fallen from Newfoundland (joined Canada in 1949) and the recently recognized Merchant Navy. Many write to me, asking about sites where loved ones can be found. These are from the latest Legion magazine, giving the various military cemeteries where family members are buried. www.forces.gc.ca/cemetery or 1-800-883-6094. Eileen forwarded a query re the number of WWI vets remaining alive in Newfoundland -- I hope someone can answer this. The following has been "borrowed" from Lloyd Rowsell's posting http://worldatwar.net/article/newfoundland In Remembrance, Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, On -- formerly Nova Scotia Code Talker -- WWII

To all:- A subscriber to several of the mail lists I administer has written to me with a very important question we all will have to face at some time. Her mother passed away last week, and the executor of the will is a neighbour who insisted he take on this big last task. What are the duties? What are the important first duties? How far does the neighbour's authority extend? I found one Ontario site -- there are many, but some are American http://www.servicelaw.ca/id59.htm Please reply with any other information no covered on this site to Ruth katolakita@quadro.net Please -- no emails that this is not genealogy -- it really is to help the ones who mourn his/her loss. Muriel -- List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulette Gilchuk" <paulette@chodovepeople.com> To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: [CCC] Some Questions. Hey everybody, I have a few questions and hope that some of you that checked out my site could let me know what you think about it. There were a few things that weren't working properly and over the last two days I have fixed most of them. I would really like someone's thoughts on what they think. Either through the list or just send them to me personally. The site is www.chodovepeople.com Also, if anyone has already transcribed some of the Canadian census, would you be willing to send me a sample. I am still trying to figure out the best way to go about doing all the census transcriptions. I want to cover all censii ? for all countries eventually and link them all into the trees and such. But, as I do up the 1873 Land Patents for Scotland, I am constantly changing the way I do them. LOL. I have never transcribed something for everyone before, only for my own personal use, so I am unsure of how to go about it and make it so that its useable, searchable and understandable. Thanks again! Chat with you soon, Paulette

Greetings All. For those interested, the latest of my "Gordon Watts Reports" newsletters has now been posted at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0078.htm Articles included are: Alberta Homestead Records index; Saskatchewan Vital Stats go online; and US Military Records opened. Past issues of my column can be accessed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/authors/authgw.htm Your comments regarding my newsletter, and suggestions for future articles are welcome. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-chair Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward without notice is granted

To all:- The Milne Report, Fall 2005 arrived today and one item is of special interest. As you read the following, you might like to make YOUR comments to your own Member of Parliament, prior to Third Reading. For your Member of Parliament check http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.html Also let's not forget the Senators!! Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Brampton, ON ==================== HILL HAPPENINGS After a quiet summer, we are back to business on the Hill, and I've been asked to sponsor two government bills that are now before the Senate. C-64 amends the Criminal Code to make it an offence to alter or remove the Vehicle Identification Number from a car or any of its parts. Each vehicle made in North America has a unique VIN. One of the first things that car thieves do after stealing a car is to remove or alter the VIN, making it much more difficult to prove that it was stolen. Anyone convicted of this offence could be sent to jail for up to five years. C-65 also amends the Criminal Code to stiffen penalties for street racers. There are many crimes that arise from street racing that range from criminal negligence causing death to careless driving. This provision will guide judges to increase the penalties when anyone involved in street racing is convicted of an offence. Both of these bills are awaiting Third Reading in the House of Commons. Bill C-65 in particular was championed by the late Chuck Cadman, the Conservative member from Surrey, BC. who wanted to increase safety and security on our streets. As sponsor of these bills, I will be presenting the government's position to the Senate, both during debate on the Senate floor, and when the bills are studied by the Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs. Hopefully they will both pass quickly.

The following was received from Bob Hulley, writer of The Building Historian -- residents of Brampton prior to 1950 will be able to associate with the following:- Some of the mysteries of Brampton's past lie buried beneath its streets. From earliest times the Etobicoke River (Creek) has flowed through what is now downtown Brampton. An 1800s writer described the Etobicoke as meandering through Brampton's streets, "its banks green with leeks, and spotted with early spring flowers." Half a century later it was almost entirely planked over. Buildings were either cantilevered or bridged over its watercourse. Some of these buildings still exist today. In 1952, because of the constant spring flooding, the river was diverted from the downtown area, and the old riverbed was backfilled. The very thought of the bountiful treasure trove of artifacts and historical debris vuried in its former silt laden river-bottom is enough to excite even the most prosaic archeologist and historian. Workmen who recently dug up a part of the old riverbed tell of finding all sorts of items. Pottery, shards, old light bulbs and even a coal burning stove with the coals still intact. Perhaps if they had dug deeper they might have found ancient arrowheads, tools and old firearms. Recently, there has been a renewed interest in probing our past, partly born of curiosity but also of a need for historical identity. The treasures hidden in this corridor of our history might be every bit as intriguing as any mystery novel. ========= I have been told every store had a basement which flooded so could not be used. The main areas of problem seemed to have been the level land which dipped downward at Church and Main Sts., through the business section to the rise below Wellington & Main Sts., a distance of more than four blocks. Other areas might have been affected. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca List Admin -- CAN-ONT-PEEL & CAN-ONT-SIMCOE lists Brampton, Ontario

The following may be forwarded To those who know City of Brampton residents:- The City of Brampton Citizens Awards deadline is almost here, as noted in The Brampton Guardian today. The awards cover sports, arts and volunteering. Do YOU know someone in the City of Brampton whom you feel is qualified to be recognized? The deadline for nominations is Monday, October 31, 2005. The Sports Awards ceremony will take place in February, 2006, and all other awards will be presented in May, 2006. These recognition awards were started 30 years ago and over 9,000 have been recognized. "The Sports Achievement Award and the Arts Acclaim Award recognize Brampton residents who have shone locally, provincially, nationally or internationally. The Long Term Service Awards recognize volunteers who have given 10, 25 or more years of service in the areas of recreational sports, the arts, and community services. There is also an award for anyone who has displayed "inspirational acts of humanitaritism." Nomination forms are available on the city's web site at www.brampton.ca -- at any city recreation centre, or by calling 905-874-3956. Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca List Admin -- CAN-ONT-PEEL mail list Brampton, Ontario

Halton Peel Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society is holding its monthly meeting in Oakville, next Sunday, below are the particulars. October 23, 2005 Sharon Murphy Timelines Research, on the Preservation of Photographs and Documents The meeting is held at the Oakville Public Library on Navy Street from 2:00-4:00. Visitors are welcome. Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/142 - Release Date: 18/10/05

The following may be copied and forwarded To all:- It was appropriate to read this article in the Toronto Sun while surrounded by veterans (including my husband) at Sunnybrook Veteran's Wing in Toronto. =========== OTTAWA -- The Liberal government has opened the door to compensating veterans who were denied benefits for the last 60 years because they failed to complete their discharge paperwork after the war. Grilled in the House of Commons yesterday (Oct. 7), Veterans Affairs Minister Albina Guarnieri vowed to "do justice" to any veterans who were misclassified. "I have asked officials to consult with veterans' organizations and I am working closely with the defence department to excavate the facts and dig up the truth," she said. NDP Pat Martin is pressing the government to overturn a 1946 order-in-council that obliterated the service records of 14,100 veterans. ============= The Merchant Navy FINALLY were recognized a few years ago, but there could be many others of all services who did not have proper instruction in completing paperwork. My husband's is complete and benefits are such that many should be receiving now. By all means, dig out the old SERVICE NUMBER (even from memory), visit the nearest D.V.A. office or Legion. I am working directly with one who has access to all areas of Canada. [I feel the number of 14,100 has been reduced by death by now] Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census committee; Code Talker WWII Brampton, ON -- formerly Nova Scotia

Here is the answer and I hope you copy and paste it into a message to yourself, saved on drafts or elsewhere. This is courtesy of Rick Roberts, Global Genealogy of Canada "1911 Census of Canada - Column 18" Web link to article: http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazgw/gazgw-0077.htm Sure saves a lot of paper!!! Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Smith" <jenny4275@hotmail.com> To: <CAN-ONT-PEEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:50 PM Subject: 1911 Census Question > I'm sure our listowner can answer this one. In column 18 it asks - > Employment Other than At Chief Occupation or Trade. On my family's entry > the answer reads numbers, i.e. 8-9-39 or 11-9-50. What do these numbers > mean? > Thank you all. > > _________________________________________________________________