Do we assume he was SUE; because UE's weren't born in Canada, or do you know for sure he was UE from a listing somewhere. An OIC normally didn't give the lot granted. It simply said the amount of property you were granted by either the land grant board or the executive council. You would need some other instrument issued by Attorney Generals Office, Surveyor Generals Office, etc. A fiat, warrant, etc. Most of those granted land as UE, DUE, SUE, ML, etc never lived on the land. They usually sold the warrant, fiat, etc to someone else because they had no intention of moving and becoming a settler. It was free money. 1834 was very late for getting UEL land under terms. The laws had been extended a number of times and I think the final extension went to 1836. JK Delphine Large wrote: > Hello: > > Joseph J. BUCK b 1812 Leeds County, Lansdowne Township. UE, got OC for land grant in 1834. His grant was for St. Vincent Township (no County mentioned). > > He m Jane Seaman also from Leeds. had at least 2 children and migrated to Dunnsville. He is on 1851 and 61 Censuses there. Other children were born. At least two d. there. > > His wife died as result of a freak accident. He remarried and his trail has disappeared. I did find two daughters in the 1871 Toronto Census but I was not able to establish their residence.The girls were both m within 4 years. > > My question is: Did he ever live on that land? One daughter mentions spending some time on an island in Georgian Bay which suggests they lived close-by. I have followed the two daughters, one became my > G/M Does anyone have knowledge of these family members ? > I appreciate any assistance you might offer. Thank you. > Delphine Large (Cameron). > Victoria, B.C. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-GREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please explain SUE, UE, DUE, ML UEL and OIC. Thanks :-) JK wrote: > Do we assume he was SUE; because UE's weren't born in Canada, or do you > know for sure he was UE from a listing somewhere. > An OIC normally didn't give the lot granted. It simply said the amount > of property you were granted by either the land grant board or the > executive council. > You would need some other instrument issued by Attorney Generals Office, > Surveyor Generals Office, etc. A fiat, warrant, etc. > > Most of those granted land as UE, DUE, SUE, ML, etc never lived on the > land. They usually sold the warrant, fiat, etc to someone else because > they had no intention of moving and becoming a settler. It was free money. > > 1834 was very late for getting UEL land under terms. The laws had been > extended a number of times and I think the final extension went to 1836. > > JK >

Hi: OIC - Order in Council - land was granted to those in the now-USA who stayed loyal to Britain and they were called UEL's - United Empire Loyalists. The SUE perhaps means Son of a United Empire Loyalist, DUE - daughter of an Empire Loyalist. Type United Empire Loyalists in to your search engine, google, etc and you will be able to read more about them. Marg Connie wrote: >Please explain SUE, UE, DUE, ML UEL and OIC. Thanks :-) > >JK wrote: > > >>Do we assume he was SUE; because UE's weren't born in Canada, or do you >>know for sure he was UE from a listing somewhere. >>An OIC normally didn't give the lot granted. It simply said the amount >>of property you were granted by either the land grant board or the >>executive council. >>You would need some other instrument issued by Attorney Generals Office, >>Surveyor Generals Office, etc. A fiat, warrant, etc. >> >>Most of those granted land as UE, DUE, SUE, ML, etc never lived on the >>land. They usually sold the warrant, fiat, etc to someone else because >>they had no intention of moving and becoming a settler. It was free money. >> >>1834 was very late for getting UEL land under terms. The laws had been >>extended a number of times and I think the final extension went to 1836. >> >>JK >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-GREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Technically speaking, no one in the now-USA was granted land as a UE. It was for loyalists FROM the US and you had to be in Canada and had to prove allegiance to the crown prior to 1783. You then had to swear allegiance in Canada and meet a number of conditions These were changed about 6 times between 1816 and 1832 JK marg mcfarlane wrote: > Hi: > > OIC - Order in Council - land was granted to those in the now-USA who > stayed loyal to Britain and they were called UEL's - United Empire > Loyalists. The SUE perhaps means Son of a United Empire Loyalist, DUE - > daughter of an Empire Loyalist. > > Type United Empire Loyalists in to your search engine, google, etc and > you will be able to read more about them. > > Marg > > Connie wrote: > >> Please explain SUE, UE, DUE, ML UEL and OIC. Thanks :-) >> >> JK wrote: >> >> >>> Do we assume he was SUE; because UE's weren't born in Canada, or do you >>> know for sure he was UE from a listing somewhere. >>> An OIC normally didn't give the lot granted. It simply said the amount >>> of property you were granted by either the land grant board or the >>> executive council. >>> You would need some other instrument issued by Attorney Generals Office, >>> Surveyor Generals Office, etc. A fiat, warrant, etc. >>> >>> Most of those granted land as UE, DUE, SUE, ML, etc never lived on the >>> land. They usually sold the warrant, fiat, etc to someone else because >>> they had no intention of moving and becoming a settler. It was free money. >>> >>> 1834 was very late for getting UEL land under terms. The laws had been >>> extended a number of times and I think the final extension went to 1836. >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-GREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-GREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Son, daughter, military, Order-in-council Connie wrote: > Please explain SUE, UE, DUE, ML UEL and OIC. Thanks :-) > > JK wrote: >> Do we assume he was SUE; because UE's weren't born in Canada, or do you >> know for sure he was UE from a listing somewhere. >> An OIC normally didn't give the lot granted. It simply said the amount >> of property you were granted by either the land grant board or the >> executive council. >> You would need some other instrument issued by Attorney Generals Office, >> Surveyor Generals Office, etc. A fiat, warrant, etc. >> >> Most of those granted land as UE, DUE, SUE, ML, etc never lived on the >> land. They usually sold the warrant, fiat, etc to someone else because >> they had no intention of moving and becoming a settler. It was free money. >> >> 1834 was very late for getting UEL land under terms. The laws had been >> extended a number of times and I think the final extension went to 1836. >> >> JK >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAN-ONT-GREY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >