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Thank you to everyone who has replied. I will be contacting the book store in Owen Sound today to see if they still have a copy and if they'd be willing to set it aside or mail it. You're such a wonderfully helpful group! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Jones" <janet-jones@sympatico.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: Looking for a Melba Croft Book > Please forgive me, if I don't recall the title of the book accurately - > the title of it was something to the effect of "In Our Own Words" (unless > I'm thinkin of another book entirely). It was a fairly large publication > that I found in the Wiarton library on a visit a year or so ago. I recall > reading in the front of the book that it would be much too costly to print > it in hardcover. The topic was the natives of the area and included some > JONES family. I know when I see the title it will be clear... > > Does anyone know if and how I can purchase a copy of this book - looking > ahead at Christmas for my mother-in-law. > > If her publications are still for sale, can someone share the titles with > me as I believe there is at least one more she has had on her wish list. > > Thanks in advance... > Jan >
Hi Janet: I know you are wanting to purchase the book but for those who might like to borrow some of her books, the National Library of Canada has a number of them. There are a number of hits for Croft, Melba at the National Library of Canada Search page: http://amicus.collectionscanada.ca/aaweb-bin/aamain/basic_search?sessionKey=1137859341020_66_222_164_223&l=0&v=0&lvl=1 Change the drop-down box to Name Browse and in the box beside that type in Croft, Melba then click submit. There are 15 results that come up for her. Click on her name to see the records. On the results page, click on each book title to find out the info on it. The first section, NLC Copies will tell you how many copies they have and beside each entry for that if it says No ILL then you can't borrow it but if there is nothing written at the end of each line then it can be borrowed on ILL through your local library. If you find one you want to borrow, copy and paste the full info about the book onto a blank sheet of paper and take it in to your library and they will request it from the Nat'l Library or a library closer to you. A lot of them are not available for ILL but the ones that I found that look like they are available are: A port of some importance : Owen Sound, Canada, 1845-1984 / Melba Morris Croft Fourth entrance to Huronia : the history of Owen Sound / by Melba Morris Croft - paperback Growth of a country town : Owen Sound 1900-1920 / by Melba Morris Croft - copy 2 Renewal of a Canadian port : Owen Sound on Georgian Bay - copy 2 Tall tales and legends of the Georgian Bay - copy 2 Tall tales and legends of the Georgian Bay. Volume II In their own words : 1626-1994 : the story of Ontario and Quebec but in particular about the Georgian Bay Recipes from Grandma's files - copy 2 Memories of Brooke : Nawash, Brookefield, Brookeholm, Brooke, Owen Sound North, Owen Sound As I said, print off each book's page info, take it to your library and ask them to please try to get them on ILL. You may not get all of them but it's worth a shot! Marg in Sunny Alberta Janet Iles wrote: >Hello Janet > >The following is the catalogue record for the book you are asking about. The >title is "In their own words". It is quite large as you remember it includes >copies of original documents. > >In their own words 1626-1994 : the story of Ontario and Quebec but in >particular about the Georgian Bay / by Melba Morris Croft >Owen Sound, ON : Melcroft, c2001 >556 p. : ill., maps, ports, photos >Includes bibliographical references and index >Includes some text in French and Mohawk >Indians of North America--Ontario--History--Sources >Indians of North America--Québec (Province)--History--Sources >Georgian Bay Region (Ont.)--History--Sources >Québec (Province)--Social life and customs--Sources > >As far as I know there are still copies available for sale through Coates & >Best in Owen Sound. You would have to check with them. > >Since this book she has also published > >Memories of Brooke / researched and edited by Melba Morris Croft > Croft, Melba Morris, 1909- >Variant title: Memories of Brooke Nawash, Brookefield, Brookeholm, Brooke, >Owen Sound North, Owen Sound) >Owen Sound, ON : M. M. Croft, c2004 >F, 436 p., 6 p. : ill. maps, photos >Brooke (Owen Sound, Ont.)--History > >It too should be available at Coates & Best in Owen Sound > >Janet Iles > >-----Original Message----- >From: Janet Jones [mailto:janet-jones@sympatico.ca] >Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:32 AM >To: CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Grey Co.] Looking for a Melba Croft Book > >Please forgive me, if I don't recall the title of the book accurately - the >title of it was something to the effect of "In Our Own Words" (unless I'm >thinkin of another book entirely). It was a fairly large publication that I > >found in the Wiarton library on a visit a year or so ago. I recall reading >in the front of the book that it would be much too costly to print it in >hardcover. The topic was the natives of the area and included some JONES >family. I know when I see the title it will be clear... > >Does anyone know if and how I can purchase a copy of this book - looking >ahead at Christmas for my mother-in-law. > >If her publications are still for sale, can someone share the titles with me > >as I believe there is at least one more she has had on her wish list. > >Thanks in advance... >Jan > > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta >rgetid=5429 > > > > > > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >
Hello Janet The following is the catalogue record for the book you are asking about. The title is "In their own words". It is quite large as you remember it includes copies of original documents. In their own words 1626-1994 : the story of Ontario and Quebec but in particular about the Georgian Bay / by Melba Morris Croft Owen Sound, ON : Melcroft, c2001 556 p. : ill., maps, ports, photos Includes bibliographical references and index Includes some text in French and Mohawk Indians of North America--Ontario--History--Sources Indians of North America--Québec (Province)--History--Sources Georgian Bay Region (Ont.)--History--Sources Québec (Province)--Social life and customs--Sources As far as I know there are still copies available for sale through Coates & Best in Owen Sound. You would have to check with them. Since this book she has also published Memories of Brooke / researched and edited by Melba Morris Croft Croft, Melba Morris, 1909- Variant title: Memories of Brooke Nawash, Brookefield, Brookeholm, Brooke, Owen Sound North, Owen Sound) Owen Sound, ON : M. M. Croft, c2004 F, 436 p., 6 p. : ill. maps, photos Brooke (Owen Sound, Ont.)--History It too should be available at Coates & Best in Owen Sound Janet Iles -----Original Message----- From: Janet Jones [mailto:janet-jones@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:32 AM To: CAN-ONT-GREY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Grey Co.] Looking for a Melba Croft Book Please forgive me, if I don't recall the title of the book accurately - the title of it was something to the effect of "In Our Own Words" (unless I'm thinkin of another book entirely). It was a fairly large publication that I found in the Wiarton library on a visit a year or so ago. I recall reading in the front of the book that it would be much too costly to print it in hardcover. The topic was the natives of the area and included some JONES family. I know when I see the title it will be clear... Does anyone know if and how I can purchase a copy of this book - looking ahead at Christmas for my mother-in-law. If her publications are still for sale, can someone share the titles with me as I believe there is at least one more she has had on her wish list. Thanks in advance... Jan ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429
Please forgive me, if I don't recall the title of the book accurately - the title of it was something to the effect of "In Our Own Words" (unless I'm thinkin of another book entirely). It was a fairly large publication that I found in the Wiarton library on a visit a year or so ago. I recall reading in the front of the book that it would be much too costly to print it in hardcover. The topic was the natives of the area and included some JONES family. I know when I see the title it will be clear... Does anyone know if and how I can purchase a copy of this book - looking ahead at Christmas for my mother-in-law. If her publications are still for sale, can someone share the titles with me as I believe there is at least one more she has had on her wish list. Thanks in advance... Jan
Hi: You likely already have all of this but... The Hannigan parents and siblings on the 1881 census: Richard HANNIGAN M Male Irish 70 Ontario Farmer Methodist Rebbeca HANNIGAN M Female Dutch 60 Ontario Methodist Hanna HANNIGAN Female Irish 22 Ontario Methodist Jane HANNIGAN M Female Irish 20 Ontario Methodist Sevina HANNIGAN Female Irish 16 Ontario Methodist Angeline HANNIGAN Female Irish 15 Ontario Methodist James HANNIGAN Male Irish 23 Ontario Farmer Methodist Wesley HANNIGAN Male Irish 18 Ontario Methodist Thomas H. HANNIGAN Male Irish 13 Ontario Farmer Methodist Source Information: Census Place Burpee & Carling & Ferguson, Muskoka, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375880 NA Film Number C-13244 District 131 Sub-district P Page Number 8 Household Number 3 Could this be John James and Maria Hannigan Clark in 1881? John CLARK M Male Irish 30 O <Ontario> Farmer Church of England Maria CLARK M Female Irish 24 O <Ontario> Farmer Church of England Heray A. CLARK Male Irish 2 O <Ontario> Farmer Church of England May J. CLARK Male Irish <1 Born: Apr; 11/12 O <Ontario> Farmer Church of England Elisabeth SMITH Female Irish 14 England Farmer Church of England Source Information: Census Place St Vincent, Grey East, Ontario Family History Library Film 1375897 NA Film Number C-13261 District 155 Sub-district I Division 1 Page Number 34 Household Number 160 Possible 1901 census: District: ON SIMCOE (North/Nord) (#114) Subdistrict: Collingwood (Town/Ville) B-5 Page 6 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6496 Clark James M Head M 1849 Methodist Engineer Clark Phoebe F Wife M Jul 4 1852 Clark Frank M Son S Dec 1 1874 Clark Samuel M Son S Oct 26 1878 Clark Andrew M Son S Feb 13 1880 Clark Annie F Daughter S Feb 19 1883 Clark Phoebe F Daughter S Dec 15 1886 Clark Lily F Daughter S Jul 21 1889 Clark John M Son S Sep 13 1891 Clark Jannie F Daughter S Jan 14 1895 All born Ontario. James born Ontario rural and the rest born Ontario urban. You likely already have these: 017311-04 Frank Enos CLARK, 31, Collingwood, same, labourer, s/o James CLARK & Phoebe HANNIGAN, married Alice NORTON, 22, Byng Inlet, Penetang, d/o Alfred NORTON & Emily BARETT, witn; Walter & Hilda NORTON of Penetang. 7 Dec, 1904 at Penetang. 1911 Census of Collingwood, Simcoe North /District 120, sub 40, page 16: Minnesota?? Street CLARK, Frank Head December, 1875?? ON Carpenter in Shipyard Methodist Alice Wife March, 1882?? ON Meth Gordon Son April, 1910 ON Meth Sorry, that's all that I could find. Marg in Sunny Alberta Dorothy wrote: >Hello all: >I am new to this list and am trying to break down a brick wall. I am hoping that someone on this list may already know this family, so that I can confirm them as mine, or keep searching. > >My great grandfather was John James Clark and on his first marriage to Maria Hannigan in 1874 in Parry Sound district, he said he was born in Owen Sound. >6191-74 James CLARK, 22, farmer, Owen Sound, Carling, s/o John & Mary, married Maria HANNIGAN, 23, Carling, Welland Co., d/o Richard & Rebecca, witn: J. M. FINLAYSON & Savila HANNIGAN, both of Carling twp., 18 April 1874 at Carling twp [as written] > >This would make his birth year somewhere around 1851. I have found a John and Mary Clark in Sydenham Tp. 1851 census, that fit: >Clark, John, 34, Ire., CE, Blacksmith >Clark, Mary, 34, Ire., CE >Clark, Jane, 7, CW >Clark, William, 4, CW >Clark, John, 2, CW > >1861 census: John, 43, is living on his own in Sullivan Tp, still says married, but Mary was not found. The 2 boys are living nearby with other families. William was 15 and James was 9. Jane wasn't found (she would be about 17). > >1871 census: John Clark, 52, widowed, blacksmith, living alone in Parry Sound. My John James wasn't found in the 1871 census (or the 1881, for that matter). In 1871, he should be 19-21. There was a James Clark that applied for land in Muskoka 14 March 1872 -- Draper Tp. >After my John James married a second time in 1882 to Phoebe Ann Hannigan, he worked as an engineer on the boats. > >I have found a marriage for a Jane Clark and this ties the other families in: > >William Wallace GUIDY (GOUDY?), 23, b. Atlantic Ocean, res. Bentinck Tp., parents: William GUIDY and Jane NEWBIGGINS. Jane CLARKE, 20 Sullivan To., res. Bentinck Tp, parents John CLARKE and Mary HAMILTON. July 20, 1864 Grey Co. 1030056 > >I am wondering if anyone knows anything more about these families. > >Dorothy (Clark) Hiltz >Collingwood > > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >
Yes, thank you Marg and everyone else who has helped point me to other sources to try and figure this McDonald family branch out. It's greatly appreciated! The search continues.... Kim --- Anne Pedicord <pedicord@stanford.edu> wrote: > Dear Marg, > > On behalf of all of us who aren't always sure > where to go or what > to do thank you for all your info and advice to a > fellow family tree > researcher... :-) =D> =D> =D> > > Anne in sunny California >
Hello all: I am new to this list and am trying to break down a brick wall. I am hoping that someone on this list may already know this family, so that I can confirm them as mine, or keep searching. My great grandfather was John James Clark and on his first marriage to Maria Hannigan in 1874 in Parry Sound district, he said he was born in Owen Sound. 6191-74 James CLARK, 22, farmer, Owen Sound, Carling, s/o John & Mary, married Maria HANNIGAN, 23, Carling, Welland Co., d/o Richard & Rebecca, witn: J. M. FINLAYSON & Savila HANNIGAN, both of Carling twp., 18 April 1874 at Carling twp [as written] This would make his birth year somewhere around 1851. I have found a John and Mary Clark in Sydenham Tp. 1851 census, that fit: Clark, John, 34, Ire., CE, Blacksmith Clark, Mary, 34, Ire., CE Clark, Jane, 7, CW Clark, William, 4, CW Clark, John, 2, CW 1861 census: John, 43, is living on his own in Sullivan Tp, still says married, but Mary was not found. The 2 boys are living nearby with other families. William was 15 and James was 9. Jane wasn't found (she would be about 17). 1871 census: John Clark, 52, widowed, blacksmith, living alone in Parry Sound. My John James wasn't found in the 1871 census (or the 1881, for that matter). In 1871, he should be 19-21. There was a James Clark that applied for land in Muskoka 14 March 1872 -- Draper Tp. After my John James married a second time in 1882 to Phoebe Ann Hannigan, he worked as an engineer on the boats. I have found a marriage for a Jane Clark and this ties the other families in: William Wallace GUIDY (GOUDY?), 23, b. Atlantic Ocean, res. Bentinck Tp., parents: William GUIDY and Jane NEWBIGGINS. Jane CLARKE, 20 Sullivan To., res. Bentinck Tp, parents John CLARKE and Mary HAMILTON. July 20, 1864 Grey Co. 1030056 I am wondering if anyone knows anything more about these families. Dorothy (Clark) Hiltz Collingwood
Hi Kim: I imagine this is the 1901 census entry you mention: District: ON GREY (South/Sud) (#66) Subdistrict: Durham (Town/Ville) C-3 Page 1 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6469 McDonald Alex'r M Head M Sep 10 1850 Engineer Presbyterian McDonald Harriet F Wife M Dec 11 1860 McDonald John C M Son S Apr 5 1882 Butter maker McDonald Thomas Wm M Son S Aug 19 1883 Student McDonald Alexander H M Son S Jul 4 1888 McDonald Norman C M Son S Nov 5 1896 McDonald Martha U F Daughter S Dec 27 1898 All born Ontario. Kim, you really need to go to your local LDS Family History centre and look up the birth reg for John Clark McDonald to see if this census entry is the correct family. Perhaps the names that are not familiar to your father in this census are for John's siblings who died very young, moved far away, etc. Unfortunately, our memories sometimes are a bit faulty, as mine is <smile>! Or they may have been called by a middle or nickname and so don't appear as he remembers them on the census entry. To find a Family History Centre near you: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp They will help you a lot and if they don't have the correct films on-site, they can order them for you for a small fee. The registration should show the mother's name so that will help you determine if this is your family on the 1901 census. If you are not near or cannot go to a Family History Centre, I use Marian Windley to do my registration, cemetery, census, etc lookups and she is VERY reliable, will email you the entries, and charges about $2 cdn for each one which is less than the cost of ordering in the films you will need, if your local Family History Centre doesn't have them in stock. If they are in stock it doesn't cost anything to look at them there. Here is Marian's email: windley@rogers.com I found your family on the 1911 census of Grey South, Durham town, District 74, subdistrict 33, page 4, and to view the page go to: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-100.01-e.html Check the Ontario box, and type in Durham in the search box, change number of references per page to MAX, click submit query. On the page that comes up scroll own to entry number 49 which will say Grey South, Durham Town, subdistrict 33, click on Associated Pages. This district has not yet been indexed on Automated Genealogy. On the page that comes up click on page 4. I use the left column and you can as well if you have Adobe acrobat reader on your computer. The entry begins on line 36, and the address is Queen Street: McDonald, John Head April, 1882 ON Scotch Laborer in Livery Barn Methodist Lizzie Wife Feb, 1886 ON German Lillie May? Dau December, 1905 Violet Clara Dau May, 1907 Lila Cristen? Dau September, 1909? WITTLE, Katie Mother-in-law January?, 1855 ON Lutheran No occupation and there is other info like insurance, wages in the far right columns which you can look at yourself. So now you have Elizabeth's mother's name as well. You can't rely on transcribers for your info - sometimes you have to troll through the pages yourself to find your family. The enumerator may have spelled their surnames differently than you expect or spelled them phonetically, and that is what will show on the transcription, not the way your family spells their name. To err is human... Kim, I really do think the 1901 census entry is also for your family. Just too much coincidence with the middle initial of John and his birth month matching up with the entry on the 1911 census. You really have to check out the birth reg for him to find out for sure, i.e. mother Harriet. Also, if you are able to, get a copy of the actual birth reg, not the transcript, for Violet as you may find the mother's surname to be slightly different in spelling from the way it was transcribed. You should be able to find all the birth, marriage, death reg's for these people, up to certain years, of course, at the LDS family history centre or using a researcher or volunteer. I did not find Elizabeth either on the 1901 census. Get the marriage reg for her and John and that will give you the parents' names and hopefully place of birth, etc. Grey County Branch Ontario Gene Society: http://www.bmts.com/~bgogs/ Grey County GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ongrey/ That's about all that I can find. Marg in Sunny Alberta Kim Watson wrote: >>Could you perhaps post to the list more info on >>these people than you >>already sent, like birth, marriage death dates, even >>approximate ones, >>what info you already have like census, etc. >>Marg >> >> > > >Dates that I do know are found below. > >I've used Automated Genealogy to try to locate them >both the 1901 census, but was unsuccessful. At that >time they would not have been married, but would have >been only 19 and 15 respectively. > >John Clark McDonald (my great-grandfather) father's >name was Alexander, but went by Sandy. I do not know >his mother's name. There is a John C McDonald listed >in the census for the town of Durham with Alexander as >the head and born in the right year, but have been >told by my father that he is pretty sure this is not >the right one, since that John's siblings are all >names that my dad has never heard before. > >And I don't have Elizabeth's parents names. Her last >name has been spelled both 'Weigle' and 'Weigel' - I >tried both, as well as Wiegel and Wiegle. No >Elizabeth anywhere in the 1901 census. > >I cannot find them at all in the 1911 census either. >My grandmother (Violet) was born in 1907 and her name >is no where to be found. This I find very strange, as >I have been told that they were definitely living in >Durham at that time. I believe they were on Garafraxa >Street in Durham, as I found my grandmothers birth >registration on the Ontario Vital Statistics site at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/McD_McJ_Surnames.htm >as such: >#017429-07 (Grey Co) McDONALD, Voilet(?Violet) Clara, >f, b. 10 May 1907, father - John Clark McDONALD, >laborer; mother - Elizabeth WEIGLE, infm - Elizabeth >McDonald, Garafraxa St., Durham > >Here's the rest of the info I have: > >John C. McDonald b. 1882 d.1969 >Elizabeth Weigle b. 1886 d. 1935 > >(My father remembers John being a mail carrier and he >also operated a livery.) > >John and Elizabeth's children: >Lillian May b. 1904 d. 1927 >Violet Clara b. 1907 d. 2003 >Lylia b. ? d. ? >Charles b. ? d. ? >Kathleen b. ? d. 2004 >Clara b. ? d. ? >John A (a.k.a. Sonny) b. 1927 d. 1935 > >The way they are listed, are the order they were born >in - that much I do know. I also know Elizabeth and >Sonny were killed in a car accident in 1935 and would >like to get more info on that (sorry I cannot get more >specific on the tie of year it occurred). > >Hoping someone can help with more info. >Thanks in advance, >Kim > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >
Dear Marg, On behalf of all of us who aren't always sure where to go or what to do thank you for all your info and advice to a fellow family tree researcher... :-) =D> =D> =D> Anne in sunny California At 09:52 AM 1/19/2006, you wrote: >Hi Kim: > >I imagine this is the 1901 census entry you mention: > >District: ON GREY (South/Sud) (#66) >Subdistrict: Durham (Town/Ville) C-3 Page 1 >Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6469 > >McDonald Alex'r M Head M Sep 10 1850 >Engineer Presbyterian >McDonald Harriet F Wife M Dec 11 1860 >McDonald John C M Son S Apr 5 1882 Butter >maker McDonald Thomas Wm M Son S Aug >19 1883 Student >McDonald Alexander H M Son S Jul 4 1888 >McDonald Norman C M Son S Nov 5 1896 >McDonald Martha U F Daughter S Dec 27 1898 >All born Ontario. > >Kim, you really need to go to your local LDS Family History centre >and look up the birth reg for John Clark McDonald to see if this >census entry is the correct family. Perhaps the names that are not >familiar to your father in this census are for John's siblings who >died very young, moved far away, etc. Unfortunately, our memories >sometimes are a bit faulty, as mine is <smile>! Or they may have >been called by a middle or nickname and so don't appear as he >remembers them on the census entry. >To find a Family History Centre near you: > >http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp > >They will help you a lot and if they don't have the correct films >on-site, they can order them for you for a small fee. The >registration should show the mother's name so that will help you >determine if this is your family on the 1901 census. If you are not >near or cannot go to a Family History Centre, I use Marian Windley >to do my registration, cemetery, census, etc lookups and she is VERY >reliable, will email you the entries, and charges about $2 cdn for >each one which is less than the cost of ordering in the films you >will need, if your local Family History Centre doesn't have them in >stock. If they are in stock it doesn't cost anything to look at >them there. Here is Marian's email: > >windley@rogers.com > >I found your family on the 1911 census of Grey South, Durham town, >District 74, subdistrict 33, page 4, and to view the page go to: > >http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-100.01-e.html > >Check the Ontario box, and type in Durham in the search box, change >number of references per page to MAX, click submit query. On the >page that comes up scroll own to entry number 49 which will say Grey >South, Durham Town, subdistrict 33, click on Associated Pages. This >district has not yet been indexed on Automated Genealogy. On the >page that comes up click on page 4. I use the left column and you >can as well if you have Adobe acrobat reader on your computer. The >entry begins on line 36, and the address is Queen Street: > >McDonald, John Head April, 1882 ON Scotch Laborer in Livery Barn >Methodist > Lizzie Wife Feb, 1886 ON German > Lillie May? Dau December, 1905 > Violet Clara Dau May, 1907 > Lila Cristen? Dau September, 1909? >WITTLE, Katie Mother-in-law January?, 1855 ON Lutheran No occupation >and there is other info like insurance, wages in the far right >columns which you can look at yourself. So now you have Elizabeth's >mother's name as well. You can't rely on transcribers for your info >- sometimes you have to troll through the pages yourself to find >your family. The enumerator may have spelled their surnames >differently than you expect or spelled them phonetically, and that >is what will show on the transcription, not the way your family >spells their name. To err is human... > >Kim, I really do think the 1901 census entry is also for your family. >Just too much coincidence with the middle initial of John and his >birth month matching up with the entry on the 1911 census. You >really have to check out the birth reg for him to find out for sure, >i.e. mother Harriet. Also, if you are able to, get a copy of the >actual birth reg, not the transcript, for Violet as you may find the >mother's surname to be slightly different in spelling from the way >it was transcribed. You should be able to find all the birth, >marriage, death reg's for these people, up to certain years, of >course, at the LDS family history centre or using a researcher or volunteer. > >I did not find Elizabeth either on the 1901 census. Get the >marriage reg for her and John and that will give you the parents' >names and hopefully place of birth, etc. > >Grey County Branch Ontario Gene Society: > >http://www.bmts.com/~bgogs/ > >Grey County GenWeb: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ongrey/ > >That's about all that I can find. > >Marg in Sunny Alberta > > > > > > > > >Kim Watson wrote: > >>>Could you perhaps post to the list more info on >>>these people than you already sent, like birth, marriage death dates, even >>>approximate ones, what info you already have like census, etc. >>>Marg >>> >> >> >>Dates that I do know are found below. >>I've used Automated Genealogy to try to locate them >>both the 1901 census, but was unsuccessful. At that >>time they would not have been married, but would have >>been only 19 and 15 respectively. >> >>John Clark McDonald (my great-grandfather) father's >>name was Alexander, but went by Sandy. I do not know >>his mother's name. There is a John C McDonald listed >>in the census for the town of Durham with Alexander as >>the head and born in the right year, but have been >>told by my father that he is pretty sure this is not >>the right one, since that John's siblings are all >>names that my dad has never heard before. >> >>And I don't have Elizabeth's parents names. Her last >>name has been spelled both 'Weigle' and 'Weigel' - I >>tried both, as well as Wiegel and Wiegle. No >>Elizabeth anywhere in the 1901 census. >> >>I cannot find them at all in the 1911 census either. My grandmother >>(Violet) was born in 1907 and her name >>is no where to be found. This I find very strange, as >>I have been told that they were definitely living in >>Durham at that time. I believe they were on Garafraxa >>Street in Durham, as I found my grandmothers birth >>registration on the Ontario Vital Statistics site at >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/McD_McJ_Surnames.htm >>as such: >>#017429-07 (Grey Co) McDONALD, Voilet(?Violet) Clara, >>f, b. 10 May 1907, father - John Clark McDONALD, >>laborer; mother - Elizabeth WEIGLE, infm - Elizabeth >>McDonald, Garafraxa St., Durham >> >>Here's the rest of the info I have: >> >>John C. McDonald b. 1882 d.1969 >>Elizabeth Weigle b. 1886 d. 1935 >> >>(My father remembers John being a mail carrier and he >>also operated a livery.) >> >>John and Elizabeth's children: >>Lillian May b. 1904 d. 1927 >>Violet Clara b. 1907 d. 2003 >>Lylia b. ? d. ? >>Charles b. ? d. ? >>Kathleen b. ? d. 2004 >>Clara b. ? d. ? >>John A (a.k.a. Sonny) b. 1927 d. 1935 >>The way they are listed, are the order they were born >>in - that much I do know. I also know Elizabeth and >>Sonny were killed in a car accident in 1935 and would >>like to get more info on that (sorry I cannot get more >>specific on the tie of year it occurred). >> >>Hoping someone can help with more info. >>Thanks in advance, >>Kim >> >> >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Anne Pedicord Administrative Associate Stanford University Office of Undergraduate Admission Bakewell Building, 355 Galvez St Stanford, CA 94305-3020 http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/
Hi Marie, I cannot help you with the Primitive Methodist Church in Euphrasia, but I was wondering if you have any information on your Driscoll ancestors that you could share with me. My maternal Granduncle's name was Albert Driscoll Blake. I know his father, Phineas Francis Blake, was born someplace in Ireland and his mother, Edith Dorothea Powell, was born in Marion Grant Co., Indiana. I've always been curious that Granduncle Albert's middle name is Driscoll and wondered if it could be a clue for me. Do you know where your Driscoll family originated? Since this does not relate to Grey Co., please feel free to reply to my email address: yondermoutain@gmail.com Thank you, Barbara Dancho
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Marriages Grey County 1895 (2) 004332-95 (GREY Co.) Ben CARTER, 39, farmer, England, Hanover, blank, married Mary KILLINGTON, 30, Fergus, Bentinck Twp., d/o Thomas and Mary KILLINGTON, witn; Thomas KILLINGTON and Eliza MANTER?, blank, 6 March 1895 at Durham. 004333-95 (GREY Co.) Frank STAVENS, 22, butcher, Michigan,Durham, s/o George and Harriet STAVENS, married Annie GRASBY, 23, Yorkshire England, Glenelg Twp., d/o Frank and Henreata(sic) GRASBY, witn; Joseph COULTER of Chatsworth and Sarah GRASBY of Glenelg, 7 March 1895 at Durham. 004334-95 (GREY Co.) Robert BALL, 30, farmer, Glenelg Twp., Glenelg Twp., s/o Alex? BELL and Susan LAWRENCE?, married Maggie R. MIGHTON, 22, Bentinck Twp., Bentinck Twp., d/o Joseph MIGHTON and Isabella PORTER, witn; Mary Ann BELL and Daniel McCOSERY?, 13 March 1895 at Durham.
Marriages Grey County 1895 (1) 004321-95 (Grey Co.) John BURNS, 39, farmer, St. Vincent Twp., Sydenham Twp., s/o Patrick and Catherine BURNS, married Rosey KIRBY, 23, Peel Twp. Wellington Co., Sydenham Twp., d/o William and Mary KIRBY, witn; John Robert BOYD of Owen Sound and Maggie KIRBY of Sydenham, 9 July 1895 at Sydenham. 004322-95 (Grey Co.) William McMAHON, 27, carpenter, Hope Twp., St. Vincent Twp., s/o Arthur and Eliza McMAHON, married Josephine ROWS, 21, St. Vincent Twp., St. Vincent Twp., d/o Thomas and Mary Ann ROWS, witn; Arthur CAMERON and Isabell McQUARRIE both of Leith, 18 September 1895 at Leith. 004323-95 (Grey Co.) Donald MORRISON, 30, farmer, Sydenham Twp., Sydenham Twp., s/o Duncan and Margaret MORRISON, married Mary GARBUTT, 23, St. Vincent Twp., Sydenham Twp., d/o George and Elizabeth GARBUTT, witn; Alex McPHERSON of Sydenham and Sarah HILL of Meaford, 11 September 1895 at N1/2 Lot 3 Con 4 Sydenham.
> > Could you perhaps post to the list more info on > these people than you > already sent, like birth, marriage death dates, even > approximate ones, > what info you already have like census, etc. >Marg Dates that I do know are found below. I've used Automated Genealogy to try to locate them both the 1901 census, but was unsuccessful. At that time they would not have been married, but would have been only 19 and 15 respectively. John Clark McDonald (my great-grandfather) father's name was Alexander, but went by Sandy. I do not know his mother's name. There is a John C McDonald listed in the census for the town of Durham with Alexander as the head and born in the right year, but have been told by my father that he is pretty sure this is not the right one, since that John's siblings are all names that my dad has never heard before. And I don't have Elizabeth's parents names. Her last name has been spelled both 'Weigle' and 'Weigel' - I tried both, as well as Wiegel and Wiegle. No Elizabeth anywhere in the 1901 census. I cannot find them at all in the 1911 census either. My grandmother (Violet) was born in 1907 and her name is no where to be found. This I find very strange, as I have been told that they were definitely living in Durham at that time. I believe they were on Garafraxa Street in Durham, as I found my grandmothers birth registration on the Ontario Vital Statistics site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/McD_McJ_Surnames.htm as such: #017429-07 (Grey Co) McDONALD, Voilet(?Violet) Clara, f, b. 10 May 1907, father John Clark McDONALD, laborer; mother Elizabeth WEIGLE, infm Elizabeth McDonald, Garafraxa St., Durham Here's the rest of the info I have: John C. McDonald b. 1882 d.1969 Elizabeth Weigle b. 1886 d. 1935 (My father remembers John being a mail carrier and he also operated a livery.) John and Elizabeth's children: Lillian May b. 1904 d. 1927 Violet Clara b. 1907 d. 2003 Lylia b. ? d. ? Charles b. ? d. ? Kathleen b. ? d. 2004 Clara b. ? d. ? John A (a.k.a. Sonny) b. 1927 d. 1935 The way they are listed, are the order they were born in - that much I do know. I also know Elizabeth and Sonny were killed in a car accident in 1935 and would like to get more info on that (sorry I cannot get more specific on the tie of year it occurred). Hoping someone can help with more info. Thanks in advance, Kim
019255-08 (Grey Co.) SMART, Horace Elwood, m, January 16, 1908, farther - Robert J. SMART, farmer, mother - Mary Elizabeth McKEOWN, infm - Robert J. SMART, Euphrasia. 019256-08 (Grey Co.) ELFORD, Margaret Allice, f, December19, 1907, father - John ELFORD, farmer, mother - Annie Matilda HARDING, infm - John ELFORD, Euphrasia. 019257-08 (Grey Co.) SMITH, Gaida Viola, f, March 19, 1907, father- Charles William SMITH, farmer, mother - Lottie Lamanda SEA , infm - Chas. W. SMITH, Euphrasia. 019258-08 (Grey Co.) CLARK, Florence May, f, February 10, 1908, father - Salvester CLARK, farmer, mother - May PATTON, infm - Salvester CLARK, Euphrasia. 019259-08 (Grey Co.) BREADNER, Mary Myrtle, f, January 3, 1908, father - James BREADNER, farmer, mother - Jennie McCULLOUGH, infm - James BREADNER, Euphrasia. 019260-08 (Grey Co.) SEWELL, Stanley Albert, m, March 24, 1908, father- James SEWELL, farmer, mother - Jessie Alice YOUNG, infm - James SEWELL, Euphrasia. 019261-08 (Grey Co.) McAFEE, Norman Lester, m, January 8, 1908, father - Samuel McAFEE, farmer, mother, Lauretta ROGERS, infm - Samuel McAFEE, Euphrasia. 019262-08 (Grey Co.) CLUGSTON, Lillian Rebecca, f, July 5, 1907, father - John CLUGSTON, farmer, mother - Ida McNICE (This should be McNEECE) infm - John CLUGSTON, Euphrasia. 019263-08 (Grey Co.) BROWN, Alexander Cannon, m, November 20, 1901, father- Isaac BROWN, farmer, mother - Mary Edith COSE, infm - Isaac BROWN, Euphrasia. 019264-08 (Grey Co.) BROWN, Henry Russel, m, September 7, 1903, father- Isaac BROWN, farmer, mother - Mary Edith COSE, infm - Isaac BROWN, Euphrasia. 019265-08 (Grey Co.) KELLOUGH, Carl Vincent, m, April 22, 1908, father - Fred KELLOUGH, farmer, mother - Pricilla HAMILTON, infm - Fred KELLOUGH, Euphrasia 019266-08 (Grey Co.) MANAREY, Alice Euphemia, f, April 26, 1908, father - Andrew MANAREY, farmer, mother - Euphemia CLARK, infm - Andrew MANAREY, Euphrasia. 019267-08 (Grey Co.) BOYD, James Carol, m, December 25, 1907, father - Joseph BOYD, farmer, mother - Ella FOSTER, infm - Joseph BOYD, Euphrasia. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/233 - Release Date: 1/18/2006
Hi, I wonder if anybody in Owen Sound could look at the 1851 census index and see what Township the name Titford occurs in. I have a request from a lady who claims they are in Grey County in 1851 but she does not know which Township. She lives in Nova Scotia. Thank you. Jopie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/233 - Release Date: 1/18/2006
Does anyone know of a Primitive Methodist church that was in service around the time of 1866 in Euphrasia? I curious about christening records around that time plus a marriage record. Also, is there a 1991 Canadian Census available on-line? Thanks, Marie
Hello, This list has been very helpful in the past with one of my branches, I thought I would try again with another. I am looking for information regarding a John Clark McDonald and his wife Elizabeth Weigle. They are buried in the Durham cemetery. If someone could provide the transcription, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, looking for information on their family. They had 7 children: Lillian, Violet (my grandmother), Lylia, Charles, Kathleen, Clara and John ("Sonny"). I believe Lillian, Charles and Sonny are also buried in the Durham cemetery. I know Elizabeth and Sonny were killed in a car accident in either 1934 or '35. Any info on that would also be appreciated. With thanks, Kim